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"It's a very challenging record," Ulrich said of "St. Anger"

I contend that is face-shatteringly unbelievably shitbrained thing to say. Corporation 187 or Lockweld or Halo or any number of crazy bands make 'challenging' records.

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BWAAAhahahaha! they lost to Linkin Park?!?!?!?!?!?!
damn,.....


Yeahhh, and it was done all by PC, and no solos. Wow, that means they probably play 1 riff, then copy/paste copy/paste so it sounds like they are consistant with their playing and don't suck.

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Fuck!

Hetfiled saying that "1.5 million records sold is a bummer" shows his arogance. It pisses me off that they think the fans owe it to them to make this a #1 on the pop charts. Metallica was huge when they first started being, recodnised because they where new, aggressive, and diffrent. Now they are watered down and redundant. Of course they are not going to sell as much as the first 4 albums! Those albums have been around YEARS longer and made a big impact in heavy metal. Also Ulrich's comment that just because this album is so called "technical" that its automatically granted to be prasied, and hes insulted that other bands (i.e. Nickelback, like mentioned) are getting more publicity and how this upsetes him, prooves thus far that its just a popularity contest for them. Not to mention their comment on touring like its a choir. You play yes to promote your newest release, but also just for the fucking thrill of playing.

I enjoyed Kirks comment though. "Guitarist Kirk Hammett said he judged the album a success by virtue of the fact that the band was able to make it, since it followed several years of internal upheaval, including the resignation of bass player Jason Newsted and Hetfield's lengthy drug rehabilitation. " To be happy just to be able to put out a record and overcoming hardships is a attitude.

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Lars has lost it.

What a fucking joke.

Anyone ever get the feeling people are just pissed off that Metallica didnt make another Justice or Puppets album? I think they have balls to put out an album like St Anger and I dont think theres anythin wrong with James thinking its a "Bummer" that it didnt sell well, wouldnt you if you had sold so many and then sell so few! Look at Megadeth, they never changed there style and they never got anywhere after Youthanasia (bad spelling???) Metallica are the biggest Metal band ever and its because of them that most of us play guitar.

Oh please. As much as a fan that I am of Megadeth, I will admit that they hit a low just as big. Megadeth did try to change their music to be more mainstream and it also went to crap. You can't change music to be accepted and expect it to be a major hit, change in music requires innovation and creativity.

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Keyword, pop.

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the only reason he needs "balls" to put out an album like that, is because it's a bad album that they put out to intentionally appeal to the mainstream audience.



Like darko said, the artist's main focus should not be on the money and how much they're selling, they should be happy that they released an album and have people listen to their music.
If this was Metallica's first album, i'm not sure if it would have even gotten a record deal.


Like i said before, they put out a shitty album on purpose thinking it would make them money, but it didn't. That's why James really thinks it's a "bummer" .Usually the money and sales justified James compromising his integrity, but now he got a dose of reality.

by the way, selling 1.5 million records is damn good for any artist, they should be happy that they even made any money at all.

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I'm surprised it took as long as it did for what atif said......selling 1.5 million copies IN ONE COUNTRY ALONE is fucking insane in just about 1/2 a year! "Oh it's a bummer!" Shut the fuck up you faggot shit ass! The album hasn't even been out a year and the cock-knockers are complaining that they haven't sold enough copies yet......well goddamn motherfuck, how much more stupid can this band become?!??!

"Black Album" said to be #1 seller in America wih 11 million sales. Now let's see here......when was it released? Last May? A year ago? 3 years ago? Oh that's right.....OVER A FUCKING DECADE AGO!!!!!!! NO FUCKING WONDER IT'S SOLD 11 MILLION COPIES!!!!! (also that it's not St. Anger helps)

And like everyone else said (except for one fool), St. Anger blowed donkey balls, no wonder it's not a fav amongst metal fans.

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YAY! A functional Metallica conversation! You all just set a precedent and I love you all.

What y'all complaining about was what pissed me off initially... The prevailing attitude seemed to be that they expected their shite to sell no matter what it sounded like... and if it didn't sell, it was the consumer's fault.

I call fucked on that.

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True.

they expected it to sell no matter what!
even if they released a cd with michelle branch and santana in the mix, they'de still expect it to sell among the metal fans.

hah, guess that worked once, but it won't work twice. loads of people did buy Stink Anger just to hear it and think 'hey this is what they sound like now'
If they release another record like this, nobody will buy it, I think their fans have had enough. I'm not a big metallicunt fan, but I don't mind their old stuff and their Turn The Page cover, lol.
I sure as hell won't buy their next album if it sounds anything like St. Anger.
However, I think this record will make metallica lose a lot of old fans and win a whole bunch of new generation metallicunt fans. If they make another record like this, they've fucked up beyond recognision. I saw them live with Trulijo, and they weren't bad, well the old songs weren't bad. the new ones sucked. so did Trulijo who basically is just a monkey boy for stage presence. he's no Jason and certainly no Cliff.

'tallica (notice the lack of metal) have been losing their old fans since they released load
They i don't know what happened, and i wish it didnt. Possibly if they let Jason put his word in we may have had a better album (as i Believe that ...And Justice For All was primarily writeen by Lars and Jason). Also in relation to St. Anger, i tink that what they were trying to do was capture elements from S.O.A.D. and Meshuggah. Maybe they should go watch The Haunted, or some old German bands (Kreator, Sodom (forgive me if im wrong about their country)) before their next album, it may inspire some thrash back into the mix.

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Its funny how some of you guys act like its a suprise they would say something like that. Their arogance shouldn't be such a shocking suprise. I just try and ignore everything metallica thats new because theres no point in getting pissed over a band that betrayed their fans in a sense.

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Not surprised. Just venting.

FUNNY!

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I am a CUNT


and def's an even bigger one

Cunt becomes Me. I Am Cunt. There Is Cunt, and I Am She.

Hail Cunt!

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[(as i Believe that ...And Justice For All was primarily writeen by Lars and Jason)as posted by BeastOfCarrion . The only credit Jason gets on Blackend, you fucking idiot, gets your facts right before you go around thinking, you think you can take Metal out of Metallica!!! As for the discusion on "St Anger" I suppose that comes down to opinion.

hey doctor, make your post smaller
its making the page all horizontally wide and hard to read, making you use the horizontal scroll bar.

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that quote of Ulrich sounds a bit like all those DJ's Here in Europe, they also just make a nr, constructed totaly with a computer program.. LOL

I just wonder if that computer program was something of the Magix Collection... would be typical Metallica if you ask me.. lol

or maybe something older like Fasttracker hehehehe


BUt serious now, The fact that the album St. Anger isn't selling that great is something i already expected when that "album" came out..... Because Metallica isn't going back to their roots with this album, i mean if they are i didn't knew, Soulfly, System of a down and slipknot where already playing in the eighties,, because thats exactly what kind of influences i hear on that album. And the sound on the album is Soooo not the metallica i first started to know. I mean this can't be compared with the Ride the Lightning album or the master of puppets album wich if you ask me are 2 fantastic albums. A lot of people start to find out that the album is not that good as the media is trying to tell.. (like they know what good music is )

Sorry Metallica, you are defenatly the weakest link... Goodbye.....

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Ive spent the last few days looking over the chit chat posts; not posting because i got banned ='( and the fark post was hilarious. Hetfield is a cunt.

I was meerly regurgitating information that i hered in an interview with James and Kirk, and becuase i didnt know for sure i put it in brackets and used the word BELIEVE

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Ok, sorry dude. Its strange how they said that and the album says different.

When I first heard the song "St. Anger" I was very disappointed. I haven't kept up with them at all after I heard that. Hetfield does seem to have gotten too big for his britches. And I bet he doesn't have to worry nearly so much about piracy now either.

And whoever commented about them being the reason a lot of people started playing guitar ................That's true, but for me it was the first time I heard the Joe Turner Blues by my choir director in 8th grade back in , oh, about 1971 or 2 ? I got my guitar the year before if I remember correctly and played 500 Miles, by P,P,&M and Green-eyed Lady by Sugarloaf a lot. But blues on a Gibson sold me forever. But I'm old ,too.

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the fark post was hilatious how do you find all of this funny shit

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mmm joe turner is great yes... if you ask me think metallica was in fact sorta the first band i started to play on guitar .. and yes i started out (figures like a lot of people these days) with... Nothing else matters.. but now 2 years after ...i play a lot off styles....blues, rock, Metal... (mostly metal.. plays really good.. good agression therapy and anger management way lol)

But any how i have said it before, this cd of Metallica is in no way a return of them to their roots because this is more influenced by System of a down, Soulfly ect... if you ask me that was mostly to blame to their new bassplayer ... i man he sucks.. he really does not belong to metallica. I mean Cliff would defenatly give this bassplayer the big finger.

(now i know some people don't agree with what i said but this is just the way i see it.)

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the bassplayer wasn't the one to blame

he didn't even PLAY bass on that album, it was their shitty producer bob rock or something who sucks dick.
I agree though, trulijo is a tool, Cliff owns him and Jason.

The very first Beatles album released in the USA sold 1.5 million.

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Ther very first Van Halen album released in the USA sold 10.3 million.

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This shows two important things:
a) Metallica could be said to technically suck MORE than Linkin Park, &
b) Music is dead because both of these bands were contenders for an award other than 'Biggest Arse Sucked, 2003'.

They were great & now they're not. I can understand why they're pissed about not selling zillions of records because artist or not, if you're successful & then all of a sudden people hate you, youre going to be upset, it's perfectly natural.

However, everyone who has said James Hetfield or Lars Ulrich are cunts on this post is more correct than any other people in their city & is now in the running to become Jesus 2.

Fuck Metallica post-91. Ungulate fornicating reprobates of people & areseholes. I hope the rest of them die & Cliff Burton comes back to life & makes an album called 'Brains Taste Like Chicken'.

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They didn't "all of the sudden not sell zillions of records". Its much to soon to be bitching about how many you didn't sell. This album is still new and hasn't had enough time to settle in. Not to mention that they made all of their previous albums much more commercial (no negative point intended). I remeber for mounths walking into any big record store chain and seeing every Metallica record lined up in chronological order just waiting to be bought. This means 2 things.
a) They released more older albums which inturn
b) Had more people buy.

The point here is that alot of the sells that could have gone to St. Anger had gone to another record and/or they made even more money because people liked St. Anger or another Metallica record and bought another. So really they probably sold thousands of their older records too.

Another thing, im sure any of their records sold 1.5 million this quickly.

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im going to say this, speaking for myself:

Metallica were never anything too special. hell, theve inspired some people, but thats about all theve done. I dont know why we are arguing about this. Hetfield is a cunt, and thats all there is to it.

Negative. As much of a bag of cunts they are now, you can't deny that they did make a gigantic impact on the metal scene. They where new, faster, and harder then most of any of the bands that where around. And to inspire people, that is a big thing, a huge thing. What else can a band do?

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Megadeth had more better material than Metallica did. I acknowledged their impact, but i said that it is nothing great. So...

So... you said nothing about acknowledge their impact, you said "Metallica were never anything too special. hell, theve inspired some people, but thats about all theve done."

Either your contridicting yourself or now finding out that they did make an impact. Megadeth is much better though, in my opinion. But they went down the same path that Metallica is going, only they didn't get any regodnition...thank god. That would have been embarresing.

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i didnt write what meant to, but you still get my point.

Now that sounds unduly hopeful.

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haha, i just didnt feel like typing it over again. God, im lazy.