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Old 2003-07-17, 21:28
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some good political authors

what are some good political authors, and some good books by them or to start off on to get their style and to see if i'll liek them enough to read more of their stuff or not.

I've just recently started Noam Chomsky - American Power and the new mandarins. And even though it was first published in 1966 and talks mainly about vietnam, i have the new 2002 copy with a forward by howard zinn, it still kicks ass. The mans a genious so far, from what i read. And i'm really into this kinda stuff.

so, any suggestions? thanks in advance.
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Old 2003-07-17, 21:41
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Taken from ratm.com's recomended reading list - (some are about views and opinions, and some are actual books but with symbolic political themes i.e. "Animal Farm")

"International Terrorism and the CIA"
Mumia Abu-Jamal
"Live From Death Row"
Mumia Abu-Jamal
""Joe Hill"
Gibbs M. Smith
"The Mau Mau War in Perspective"
Frank Furedi
"The Aesthetic Dimension"
Herbert Marcuse
"The Fire Last Time: 1968 and After "
Chris Harman
"The Media Monopoly"
Ben H. Bagdikian
"50 Ways To Fight Censorship"
Dave Marsh
"Hegemony and Revolution: A study of Antonio Gramsci's Political & Cultural Theory"
Walter L. Adamson
"The Mismeasure of Man"
Stephen Gould, Che Guevera
"A New Society: Reflections for Today's World"
by Che Guevara; edited by David Deutschmann
"The Marx-Engels Reader (2nd ed.)"
Robert C. Tucker, Editor
"What Uncle Sam Really Wants" - Free Verison!
Noam Chomsky
"Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation"
Jonathan Kozol
"Marxism and the New Imperialism"
Alex Callinicos, John Rees, Chris Harman, Mike Haynes
"Rules for Radicals"
Saul D. Alinsky
"A People's History of the United States"
Howard Zinn
"The Lorax"
Dr. Seuss
"East Los Angeles, history of a barrio"
Richard Romo
"Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II"
William Blum
"Race for Justice: Mumia Abu-Jamal's Fight Against The Death Penalty"
Leonard Weinglass
"Guerilla Warfare" - Free Version!
Che Guevera
"Zapata of Mexico"
Peter E. Newell
"Malcolm X Speaks - Selected Speeches and statements"
George Breitman
"Marxism and the Press: Oppression of Women, Toward a Unitary Theory"
Lise Vogel
"Inevitable Revolutions: The United States in Central America"
Walter LaFeber
"The Chomsky Reader"
James Peck, Editor
"Chicano Politics: Reality and Promise 1940-1990"
Juan Gomez Quinones
"The Wretched of the Earth"
Franz Fanon
"What is Communist Anarchism?"
Alexander Berkman
"Soledad Brother: The Prison Letters of George Jackson"
George Jackson
"Fidel and religion: Conversations With Frei Betto"
Frei Betto
"Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave" - Free Version!
Frederick Douglass
"Democracy is in the Streets"
James Miller
"Capital, Volume One"
Karl Marx
"The Black Panthers Speak"
Philip S. Foner, Editor
"Keeping The Rabble in line Interviews with David Barsamian"
Noam Chomsky
"Walden and Civil Disobedience"
Henry David Thoreau
"Darkness at Noon"
Arthur Koester
"The Culture of Narcissism: American Life of Diminishing Expectations"
Christopher Lasch
"Play it as it lays"
Joan Didion
"The State and Revolution"
V.I. Lenin
"Soul on Ice"
Eldridge Cleaver
"Kwame Nkrumah: The Conarky Years, His Life and Letters"
Compiled by June Milne
"Revolutionary Suicide"
Huey P. Newton
"The Anarchist Cookbook"
William Powell
"Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media"
Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
"Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man"
James Joyce
"Another country"
James Baldwin
"The Grapes of Wrath"
John Steinbeck
"The Armies of the Night"
Norman Mailer
"Invisible Man"
Ralph Ellison
"The War Against Oblivion: Zapatista Chronicles, 1994-2000" (formerly titled "Rebellion from the Roots: Indian uprising in Chiapas")
John Ross
"First World Ha! Ha! Ha! - The Zapatista challenge"
Elaine Katzenberger, Editor
"The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge"
Carlos Castaneda
"Tropic of Cancer"
Henry Miller
"Johnny Got His Gun"
Dalton Trumbo
"Essays in existentialism"
Jean-Paul Sartre
"How Real is Real? Confusion, disinformation, communication"
Paul Watzlawick
"Ghost of a Chance"
William S.Burroughs
"POPism :The Warhol Sixties"
Andy Warhol & Pat Hackett
"Chicana falsa and other stories of death, identity, and Oxnard"
Michele M. Serros
"Promissory Notes: Women in the Transition to socialism"
Sonia Kruks, Ranya Rapp, Marilyn B. Young, Editors
"Gay New York: Gender, Urban Culture, and the making of a gay world"
George Chauncey
"This bridge called my back: Writings by radical women of color"
Cherrie Monzaga, Gloria Anzaluda, Editors
"Subliminal Seduction"
Wilson Bryan Key
"Power at Play: Sports and the Problem of Masculinity"
Michael A. Messner
"Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women"
Susan Faludi
"90 Years of Ford"
George H. Dammann
"Illustrated History of Ford"
George H. Damman
"The Challenge of Local Feminisms: Women Movements in Global Perspective"
Amrita Basu
"Miles, the Autobiography"
Miles Davis
"The Sixties Papers: Documents of a Rebelliou Decade"
Judith Clavir Albert and Stewart Edward Albert
"The Graphic Work"
M. C. Escher
"Bob Marley Spirit Dancer"
Bruce W. Talamon
"Dali: The Paintings "
Benedikt Taschen, Robert Taschen, Giles Neret

"Death Blossoms"
Mumia Abu-Jamal
"For Whom The Bell Tolls"
Ernest Hemingway
"Eros And Civilization: A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud"
Herbert Marcuse
"Cheer Up Book for a Proud American"
Dan Valentine
"The Way Things Aren't"
Steve Rendall, Jim Naureckas, Jeff Cohen
"War and an Irish Town"
Eamonn McCann
"Moving the Center: The Struggle for Cultural Freedoms"
Ngugi Wa Thiong'o
"Interview With Chairman Gonzalo"
El Diario Newspaper
"The Dust Rose Like Smoke: The Subjugation of the Zulu and the Sioux"
James O. Gump
"The Last Mau Mau Field Marshalls"
David Njagi
"God Dies By The Nile"
Naval El Saadawi
"You Can't Win"
Jack Black
"Year 501: The Conquest Continues"
Noam Chomsky
"Beyond Good and Evil"
Friedrich Nietzche
"Deterring Democracy"
Noam Chomsky
"Mau Mau Detainee"
Josiah Mwangi Kariuki
"In the Spirit of Crazy Horse"
Peter Mathiessen
"Marx's Kapital for Beginners"
David Smith & Phil Evans
"How the Other Half Lives"
Jacob A. Riis
"The Weatherman"
Steve Thayer
"U.S.A."
John Dos Passos
"The Naked and the Dead"
Norman Mailer
"My Antonia"
Willa Cather
"The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State"
Friedrich Engels
"Slouching Towards Bethlehem"
Joan Didion
"The Gypsy's Curse"
Harry Crews
"Basta! Land and the Zapatista - Rebellion in Chiapas"
George A. Collier
"The State of Native America: Genocide, Colonization, Resistance"
Annette James, Editor
"SNCC The New Abolitionists"
Howard Zinn
"Always a Rebel: Ricardo Flores, Magon and the Mexican Revolution"
Ward S. Albro
"Go Tell It On a Mountain"
James Baldwin
"Uncle Tom's Cabin"
Harriet Beecher Stowe
"Black Boy"
Richard Wright
"Animal Farm"
George Orwell
"Steal This Book"
Abbie Hoffman
"The Quiet American"
Graham Greene
"Odes To Opposites"
Pablo Neruda
"Giovanni's Room"
James Baldwin
"The Confessions of Nat Turner"
William Styron
"O Pioneers"
Willa Cather
"The Souls of Black Folk"
W.E.B. DuBois
"Rights of Man"
Thomas Paine
"The Bluest Eye"
Toni Morrison
"Salvador"
Joan Didion
"Savage Inequalities"
Jonathan Kozol
"Between Hell and Reason"
Albert Camus
"Women, Race, and Class"
Angela Y. Davis
"Song of Solomon"
Toni Morrison
"American Slavery, American Freedom: the Ordeal of Colonial Virginia"
Edmund S. Morgan
"America's Reconstruction"
Eric Foner & Olivia Mahoney
"Parting the Waters"
Taylor Branch
"Native Son"
Richard Wright
"Dispatches"
Michael Herr
""Ideas & Opinions"
Albert Einstein
"Censored: The News that Didn't Make the Newspapers and Why"
Carl Jensen
""The Emperor Wears No Clothes"
Jack Herer; editing by Leslie Cabarga
"Censored 2000"
"Toxic Sludge is Good for You"
Sheldon Rampton & John Stauber
"Lies My Teacher Told Me"
James W. Loewen-

Also, pick up or download some spoken word stuff by "Jello Biafra". Great guy with great opinions. Check it out.
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Old 2003-07-17, 22:53
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didn't even think about going to RATM.com, even though they are one of my favorite bands.
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Old 2003-07-18, 01:37
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Haha happy reading. Yeah rage is good. Definatly check out some of that Jello Biafra stuff though, if you like ratm you will DEFITATLY like his ideas. Hes like zack but without music or singing.
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Old 2003-07-18, 02:13
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lol, dr seuss was on there

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Old 2003-07-18, 12:24
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They think they can turn anyone into Commie Scum with THAT reading list?? Bah and pah. If there's something I like less than hippies, it's arrogant hippies. The idea of a metalhead reading Beyond Good and Evil is for the most part ridiculous.

Read P.J. O'Rourke. In politics or social commentary, style is more important than substance.
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Old 2003-07-18, 16:56
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Stick it in your mouth and down your throat
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And it don't matter if you're straight or gay
You should fuck yourself anyway
Now, you don't have to listen to a word I say
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Old 2003-07-18, 20:29
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can't go wrong with George F. Will.
his editorials are outstanding, although, his writing is so formal
it's really hard to get what he's saying.

in one of his books he describes how middle school should be taken out
and have two years of high school, because of kids today are adults in
high school, and that shouldn't be. something like that, you'd have to read
yourself.
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Old 2003-07-18, 21:03
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Anything political or in a opinionated subject is interesting and good to read, even if you tottaly disagree with it. That way while in a debut you actually know what your talking about, and where they are coming from.




"Arm yourself with knowledge"
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what's this from?
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Old 2003-07-19, 05:22
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in the beginning of Mortal Kombat, the videogame

actually it was "knowledge is power!"
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:42
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Haha no. Tom Morello said it, smart guy.

He graduated from Harverd (political science) and still managed to play 8 hours aday and only missed a week or so of playing all together.
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that bastard! i'm hoping he had a bad GPA when he graduated, or took a year longer, or didn't take many classes per day. 'cause man, i can barely get 4 hours even if i tried.
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Old 2003-07-20, 19:46
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"Mein Kampf"
A. Hitler



Just kidding!

Thus Spoke Zaratustra is good,but then it's not political exactly
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Old 2003-07-20, 21:07
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that bastard! i'm hoping he had a bad GPA when he graduated, or took a year longer, or didn't take many classes per day. 'cause man, i can barely get 4 hours even if i tried.


He got great grades and I think he went for the normal amount of time he was soposto for his degree.
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Old 2003-07-20, 22:10
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i was actually thinking of buying mein kampf the other day. I admire hitler's ways of a speaker, and his leadership abilities. Some of his beliefs and thoughts i disagree with, but eitherway, the man was an great speaker. He could make 20 kids at mcdonalds buy a sandwich made with dog shit and thrown away fries taken from the garbage out frount.
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i was actually thinking of buying mein kampf the other day. I admire hitler's ways of a speaker, and his leadership abilities. Some of his beliefs and thoughts i disagree with, but eitherway, the man was an great speaker. He could make 20 kids at mcdonalds buy a sandwich made with dog shit and thrown away fries taken from the garbage out frount.



I agree with that.Some of his beliefs
were good!I also want to read the book.
I talked with some
neonazis recently and their ideas had no relation to the ones of Hitler!!
They were talking for a united europe and that the world should be divided in
three kingdoms based on race:White,Black and Yellow(with this
way they would be together with Jews!!haha).I think that's stupid
it's better to be divided by nations as it is of course(though I don't
think for much longer)
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Quote:
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"Mein Kampf"
A. Hitler



Just kidding!

Thus Spoke Zaratustra is good,but then it's not political exactly


Thats not Nietzsche's best. I Always favored "The Birth of Tradegy" and "Beyond Good and Evil"

At the risk of being flamed by some 3rd generation Holocaust Surviver (what a bullshit term) Hitler was a very smart man. Yes, I said man, not a monster. Everything from how he manipulated the govermental system in Germany to the insanly efficent ways he exterminated the Jews, Gypsys, and others. The National Socialist system of goverment is somewhat flawed, but it could work. I can symtasize(sp) with Hitler, maybe not to reinstating the Holocaust, but we sure as fuck shouldnt be supporting Israel like we are.

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