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Old 2003-07-11, 08:35
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Oh christ, this again...

Teens listen to Slipknot, then kill. Court convicts of bad taste and murder.

Even if you think Slipknot is a pile of fucking rubbish, you have to wonder at how this shit is still happening. This happened to the Beatles, Ozzy, Marilyn Manson and a whole host of other performers as well.

When will people realise that psychopathic cunts are attracted to violent music, and not created by it?
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Old 2003-07-11, 09:58
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stupid little cunts, they just don't understand, and they will never learn

didn't something like this happened to Rammstein too?
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Old 2003-07-11, 11:29
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it happend to priest too.
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Old 2003-07-11, 11:31
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and Slayer, and it'll probably never stop.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 13:01
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I'm pretty sure that the booklet in Divine Intervention has newspaper clippings about how Slayer is "responsable" for teens killing others teens......purely based on the killer having a slayer cd in his cd rack.
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Old 2003-07-11, 13:15
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That's what I was referring to.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 14:15
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marilyn manson too, but i dont care about his fans.

But i saw a video once with a church burning, and the pyrofuck who did it taped it from a distance and while he was taping it he said stupid balck metal stuff like "now God shall be possesed by Satan, MHUWHAHAHAHA"

it as so stupid, sad but funny
 
Old 2003-07-11, 14:20
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SERIOUSLY THE ONLY KIND MUSIC THAT MAKES ME FEEL VIOLENT AND WANT TO KILL SOMEONE IS POP MUSIC LIKE KYLIE MINOGUE OR DESTINY'S CHILD.

PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME "HOW CAN YOU LISTEN TO THAT MUSIC (REFERING TO METAL) IT'S AGGRESSIVE AND STRESSFUL"
I ANSWER THAT I'M A REALLY PACIFIC AND CALM PERSON AND THAT METAL MAY BE
STRESSFUL AND AGRESSIVE TO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY ARE.

I REALLY DON'T THINK METAL HAVE ANY NEGATIVE EFFECT ON ME (EXCEPT WHEN HEADBANGING IN THE BUS AND METRO AND I LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT SOMETIME).
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Old 2003-07-11, 14:30
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Turn your fucking caps off!
 
Old 2003-07-11, 14:39
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Old 2003-07-11, 15:15
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delete79 is allowed to have his caps man but only him and i never heard of that happening to the beatles anyway my opinion is if your dump enough to kill somebody it doesnt matter what kinda shit you listen to i meen charles manson listend to the beach boys and such
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Old 2003-07-11, 15:16
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ok seriously is it really annoying everybody in here?
because i don't mind to turn it off.
i've already explain that i work for engineer and when i write specification
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at my job i don't bother turning it off when i reply in topics.
It's not like it is always in caps but most of the time it is

But if everybody agree i'll turn it off.
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Old 2003-07-11, 15:19
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it doesnt bother me at all
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Old 2003-07-11, 15:28
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Post a poll on it, Delete, just for the hell of it....and so sane can have his thread back.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 17:29
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people kill

music doesn't.

fuck it, pathetic losers that get influenced to kill, its bullshit anyway.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 17:33
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sane really summed it up with this:

"When will people realise that psychopathic cunts are attracted to violent music, and not created by it?"


You can argue that all day long, but if you don't agree with it you're wrong.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 18:07
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What they also forget is that this is one kill by (a suposed) metal person ... Thousands of people get killed by persons who dont listen to metal (even if slipknot is considered metal)... it´s just a great blamer, so when a metal person kills someone it´s all over the news with bullshit statements like this...
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Old 2003-07-11, 18:57
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they say russia collapsed because of jeans and heavy metal.


teehee.











seriously, i hate those people this much.
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Old 2003-07-11, 19:03
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maybe slipknot fans will start killing each other one day
 
Old 2003-07-11, 21:09
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"On April 2nd, Jonathan Lee Stephenson allegedly beat Christy McKendall to death with a branch from a eucalyptus tree. Stephenson reportedly told a fellow inmate that he had been inspired to commit the crime by the music of Cannibal Corpse. Investigators retrieved CDs and pages of lyrics from his room, but have not specified the specific content."

Ahahahahaha. I didnt know CC had a song about a quala beating a guy to death with a eucalyptus branch, gotta check that one out.

And people that take these lyrics seriously need to fucking lay off.
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Old 2003-07-11, 21:28
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Music makes people fall in love. It makes them pumped for sports. It gives a tired mind some soothing. So I suppose it can become so fixed in the psychopathic mind it could be done.

"There's a lot of freaks and weirdos out there."--Wally's Grandpa Bob (RIP)

I don't remember anything like that pertaining to the Beatles, but there might have been. I'm a big Beatles fan, too.

I read a book about the Strauss' family and how the 'older generations' claimed the music of the waltz was the work of the devil and young people were led astray by it. Can you imagine a murder by waltz influence !!!!???? That's just messed up.............
or maybe it's me???
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Old 2003-07-11, 21:53
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I'm pretty sure that the booklet in Divine Intervention has newspaper clippings about how Slayer is "responsable" for teens killing others teens......purely based on the killer having a slayer cd in his cd rack.


Everyone should have Slayer in the CD rack...
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Old 2003-07-11, 21:53
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Are they stupid or what?!?!? Don't they see what makes people commit these horrible crimes? I guarantee you, over 90% of all murderers wore rubber-soled shoes when committing the crime in question. That's gotta be it. (And, no, there's not a single person who walks around in rubber-soled shoes, unless he's just murdered someone, or is going to murder someone. Not a single one...)
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Old 2003-07-11, 22:08
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Music makes people fall in love. It makes them pumped for sports. It gives a tired mind some soothing. So I suppose it can become so fixed in the psychopathic mind it could be done.


You're contradicting yourself there. You say that music makes people fall in love, yet you then go on and say that it "can become so fixed in the psychopathic mind it could be done" implying that, guess what? THEY'RE ALREADY PSYCHO!!!!!


Music does NOT make people fall in love either, that's absurd.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 23:13
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I think music can bring out certain emotions in us, but in no way does it actually make us break things, kill people, or develop a love for someone or something. I've never met anyone who becomes a different person as soon as someone slaps on a Slayer tune. Everyone gets excited, but we're all the same people, just a little hyperactive for a few minutes.
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Old 2003-07-11, 23:24
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Exactly. I'm sick and fucking tired of these assholes that subscribe to the notion that "music makes you do ____". It's ignorant, and ignorance spreads like fucking wildfire.
 
Old 2003-07-11, 23:44
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It's ignorant, and ignorance spreads like fucking wildfire.


haha, yeahhhh. just like religion.

i'm going to kill someone, and blame god.
we should all blame religion for "nice".



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Old 2003-07-11, 23:56
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if you are gona kill some one, you will kill him , don´t matter what music you hear, in Chile the most "homiside" are comited by people who listen to folck, (cumbia, para los que hablan español), so , .....
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god im so fucking sick of hearing ppl blame all this shit on music,
 
Old 2003-07-12, 06:55
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I read a book about the Strauss' family and how the 'older generations' claimed the music of the waltz was the work of the devil and young people were led astray by it. Can you imagine a murder by waltz influence !!!!???? That's just messed up............. or maybe it's me???


Hey, it happened to Elvis too. Him waving his ass in public was a scandal which was going to lead to widespread fornication, terribleness, instability and anarchy.
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Old 2003-07-12, 07:01
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i think its awesome blaming it on music.............just like the catholic church done all so amny years ago killing of other religous groups all in the name of " jesus christ"

so to do these people follow and kill for there beloved "slipknot" and any other band that has this effect on people.

i do not agree with these people and i think they r sick fucking excuses for people, but let them blame music
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Old 2003-07-12, 16:26
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"On April 2nd, Jonathan Lee Stephenson allegedly beat Christy McKendall to death with a branch from a eucalyptus tree. Stephenson reportedly told a fellow inmate that he had been inspired to commit the crime by the music of Cannibal Corpse. Investigators retrieved CDs and pages of lyrics from his room, but have not specified the specific content."

Ahahahahaha. I didnt know CC had a song about a quala beating a guy to death with a eucalyptus branch, gotta check that one out.

And people that take these lyrics seriously need to fucking lay off.



yeah that cracks me up. How big is a eucalyptus tree branch? if it's normal size, that would be very impressive.
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Old 2003-07-12, 17:58
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what about tv news? They show you REAL executions and much more violent stuff than any fucking song about butchering someone's ass... Why shouldnt they be forbidden? That kinda things suck...
Oh yeah, and Whatabout Rap- "music"? Aint it all about "Im gonna blow that niggas face off yo..." etc.? Why they dont blame rap about those gangmurders? All I hear is those "he killed him inspired by metal music" and stuff...

I just dont get it...
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Old 2003-07-12, 18:15
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its because metal is associated with satanism, that's the reason.

but its bullshit anyways.
 
Old 2003-07-12, 18:49
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"Everyone gets excited, but we're all the same people, just a little hyperactive for a few minutes."
That's more like what I meant only some people who have those tendencies already will keep the thought pattern and become fixated on it.
I guess in certain ways I'm like that with certain songs. SOme bring out more creativity than others for me and that's been with stuff I've listened to for 30 years sometimes.
I do have to disagree that a song can make you fall in love though. Maybe the situation has to be appropriate for it to happen, but I think it happens.Or maybe it's my romantic, poetic nature.

I used to think that but one of my kids was big into rap so I gave a listen . I was surprised. I gotta defend some rap artists. My favorite rap band , Gospel Gangstas, are ex-Crips and Bloods and they do "God Rap" and RnB . I know I'll hear groans from that one, but they have very good lyrics and the music isn't bogus drumbeats. I was raised listening to Motown though so I have an affection for that style anyways. To each his own. Every kind of music has stuff that basically sucks though.

There are so many things that make humans do what they do and the ones you hear of are isolated cases. It sounds like most of you can put down a song and lead a normal productive life. You just have to watch for the ones who aren't that together. The ones that hear voices in their heads that don't go away.

Hmm, maybe we should start something where everything is the fault of frogs or cows or something. The rest of the cows usually follow the herd, ya know. That would be amusing.
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what about tv news? They show you REAL executions and much more violent stuff than any fucking song about butchering someone's ass... Why shouldnt they be forbidden? That kinda things suck...
Oh yeah, and Whatabout Rap- "music"? Aint it all about "Im gonna blow that niggas face off yo..." etc.? Why they dont blame rap about those gangmurders? All I hear is those "he killed him inspired by metal music" and stuff...

I just dont get it...


Actually there is a lot of shit blamed on rap music, because the majority of that music is about gang murders and shit. I don't pay attention to it, but i've seen and heard my share.

And the news shows us this stuff because it's REAL. If they talk about a family being cut up into little bits....well, that's because it happened somewhere.
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that pretty funny "these kids killes people after listning to slipknot and here are some links where yu can get you very own slipknot shit enjoy"
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i belive it happaned to ETTS and the drummer got the shit beaten out of him. They beat him cause they think that the music lead there kids to rape and murder a girl. that seem rong for some reason.
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ohhh, god.
that's just weird.
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It´s been posted by sane before, and mayhem isn´t death metal ignorant newspaper cunt...
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yeah sane already did that

i still stand by my opinon of blaming music is a good excuse
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Old 2003-07-14, 17:15
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ahh Lol Sorry Didn't know it was posted.
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What a fan huh .


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Old 2003-07-15, 05:11
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Haha, stupid Black Metal bands.

ehh, stupid black metal fans.


they should have a sergeon general's warning on the concert tickets...

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Old 2003-07-15, 15:51
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"On April 2nd, Jonathan Lee Stephenson allegedly beat Christy McKendall to death with a branch from a eucalyptus tree. Stephenson reportedly told a fellow inmate that he had been inspired to commit the crime by the music of Cannibal Corpse. Investigators retrieved CDs and pages of lyrics from his room, but have not specified the specific content."

Ahahahahaha. I didnt know CC had a song about a quala beating a guy to death with a eucalyptus branch, gotta check that one out.

And people that take these lyrics seriously need to fucking lay off.


Probably the guy was listening to the instrmental called
"Relentless Beating" and was trying to come out with lyrics for the
song by writing down what happened through his perspective.
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Old 2003-07-15, 16:26
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imagine if people took the cannibal corpse lyrics for real, specially the one from the first cd
damn thal'll be fucked up
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Old 2003-07-15, 16:59
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Old 2003-07-15, 17:46
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ehh, stupid black metal fans.


Will this bullshit ever stop?
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Old 2003-07-15, 17:59
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No lol. Maybe if we like put a bunch fo rap CD's in a collection and go like uh kill someone and blame it on rap rap will be like in trouble. then i'd be like Yeaaa dude. Cause I hate rap.
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You guys forget about this story or what?

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Old 2003-07-15, 20:03
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I did lol. I never knew it was posted.
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Old 2003-07-15, 20:28
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I don't think i was here when that was posted.
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Old 2003-07-15, 23:23
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people have sex in pornos and porno music plays so porno music must make teens wanna fornicate.
 
Old 2003-07-15, 23:29
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and according to the headline on the slipknot page "According to testimony given by San Bernardino police detectives, two California youths admitted to killing twenty-two-year-old Terry Ray Taylor after listening to Slipknot" it sounds like they were being interrogated and wouldnt admit to the crime until the police started playin slipknot and they couldnt take the shittiness so the admitted to the crime. like when they drove that drug guy outta some buildin by blasting rock
 
Old 2003-07-16, 13:30
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You guys forget about this story or what?

http://www.metaltabs.com/forum/show...ght=black+metal


hehe, i like your search query,

highlight= black metal
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Old 2003-07-18, 08:42
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A thought or two about it.

Human nature, how pathetic do we become, since we cannot take the blame ourselves. Heaven forbid someone may commit an act of violence out of an impulse or out of an actual loathing for someone... Ofcoursenot, that would mean to admit that humans in nature can actually cause harm.

Seems simply put that most will find one reason or another to blame something other than themselves for their troubles. Let use look at a good but more extreme example, the salume witch trials. The fact that we are searching for scapegoats, then exposing them, ruinging them, and basicly stoning them todeath in some kind of public excicution seems to be the best solution mankind seems to bring itself. Same case here, bringing out Slipknot into the open and blaming them, hoping that, since the general public agrees with it, that we can blame a music genera instead of actual nature or upbringing.

The agression shown in the style of music such as metal bring out an appeal to those who are viably angry or intense in some way. Let us look at Megadeth for instance in their Dread and the Fugitive Mind:

"Let me introduce myself,
I am a social Disease.
I've come for your wealth,
and leave you on your knees.

No time for feeling sorry,
I've got here on my own.
I wont ask for mercy,
I choose to walk alone."

To people who are angered, they tend to (Key words, Tend to, dont crucify me just for this) feel lowered, or not measuring up because of some social view. "I am a social disease". The line alone shows an attraction. Here's something that adresses things from MY view. The song continues to show how such people can get through by being strong "No time for feeling sorry" / "I wont Ask for mercy" / "I choose to walk alone"., being such that you can take away the weath and belongings of those that would consider you so low, and then leave them being the way they see you. This has such great appeal to the individuals who decide to lash out and cause these sorts of incidents.

Ironicly, most metal-heads that I know are not so much angry as they are just overly blunt (I think that can be proven by the various points made in the oppinions of the article). It's mostly these 'dumb pricks' that seem to wreck the whole for all of us. But then again, the singer of Twisted Sister already ripped appart Gore's wife for the same argument being placed before us now. I believe the song was called 'under the knife', and were she searched for Sadisim and Bondage refrences, he simply turned it to show people find what they wish to find in the lyrics of such songs (The song by the way is about surgury and the helplessness of being operated on). He also made a crude comment how since she found such subject matter in his song, if it was more of her fantasy bluring her judgement (Now that, my friends, would be quite an evening).

Irronicly, no matter how you break it down, such arguments on WHAT brings this sort of behaviour out in those few distrubed and feeble minded individuals will continue until the end of time. When they are done blaming metal, they will move onto their new scapegoat. Shame really on how humanity can blame everything else but itself.

Just a few thoughts and speaking my peace.
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Old 2003-07-21, 11:39
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marilyn manson too, but i dont care about his fans.

But i saw a video once with a church burning, and the pyrofuck who did it taped it from a distance and while he was taping it he said stupid balck metal stuff like "now God shall be possesed by Satan, MHUWHAHAHAHA"

it as so stupid, sad but funny


whahah what was the movie called I have to see it!!


in the booklet of divine intervention you can see a article about kids who killed cuz they listened to ice-t

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I didnt even read the origional post, just the tidle and then the article title and now im discusted

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