i really love metalcore music like killswitch engage, atreyu, shadows fall (i guess they could be put in there), and from autumn to ashes (some people may think they're hardcore, but they're more metalcore). And im about to start a band with these guys, and they want me to do vocals cause i can write real good lyrics. But i kinda suck at the whole screaming/growling thing. I've got a great singing voice, but i need pointers on the rest. Any tips? i know eat yogurt for growling, and the lamb of god vocalists says he eats alot of cream cheese.

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go to the poetry/lyrical forum, i think there is a thread there that gives tips....

however, best tip to be a better growler, PRACTICE! sure, you can eat yogurt till you are sick, but still practicing growling for 20 minutes would do better.
Also, if you have never growled before, do it for like 30 mins. to an hour, and your voice will be scratchy for the next day or two. You just have to get over that preliminary weakness in your throat..........

I find that trying to sing like the guys from In Flames, Dark Tranquility, etc. is harder than singing like guys from Cannibal Corpse, etc.

Basically, screaming is harder than growling...........

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I'm happy to be able to do both

our vocalist is better though, we always use yoghurt but only for screaming, hot water for growling, lol, but whatever, yoghurt is best for screaming, it makes a lot of slime so you get the 'Extol' kinda voice.

screaming is screaming your lungs out without using your troathe to much, try it from your belly, just like growling, get your sound from way deep down, it's the best way and you'll still have a voice left.

Just use your diaphragm

how?

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lol, I don't understand what you're saying but the words are different from dutch, so please explain dude!

how do i use my diaphram? i'm always using my throat so it goes out in a few minutes.

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now that's doing it the wrong way, lol, singing like that could seriously damage your voice

To Def-Fx:
The diaphragm is (among other things) a dome-shaped sheet of muscle
located between the thoracic and abdominal cavities.

To mrweijia:
There are literally thousands of www pages
concerning the singing and the use of the diaphragm,
so don`t be a lazy, spamming @#*&%^ and check them.

To artofnothing6:
"I`m ain`t no a vocalist" but it SEEMS to me that increasing
the capacity of the lungs and strengthening muscles that
take part in change of the thoracic cavity`s volume
(almost all muscles of the thorax) should increase
the air flow and give more control over it consequently
improving the scream/growl (as well as a vocalist`s charisma).

for me, i can scream better than growl, because i somehow can't use
my diafram in growling , but i can really bring out my high gain, take kalmah
for example.

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unfortunately, i cant find ANY. help please

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Basically suck in your belly and Try and lift the sheet of muscle you can feel in there before growling toewards your throat and it adds more low end to your growl, i unfortunatly cannot scream, like CoB -> Darkthrone style, i shall be learning!

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when i do it i feel a sorta vibrating feeling in the back of my throat and after I stop i cough, am i doin it right?

thanks for the guy explaining the diafram thingy, I'm using it allready, but I wasn't in the start, thats why my voice became fucked up and i couldn't sing for 3 weeks.

if you get a really sore throathe, just stop singing, because if you damage it, it'll take a while to get your voice in good shape again, drink heaps too, it helps.

To growl, just try to vomit your own blood....
To scream, let a friend kick you between your leggs

*g

that hurts just thinking about it.
except that if a friend kicked me in the sack, i'd
most likely kick him back.

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I'M A DECENT VOCALIST AND I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF MOST OF THE TRICKS YOU GUYS MENTION. I USUALLY JUST GO AT IT. MY VOCALS ARE VERY GUTTURAL (CHRIS BARNES STYLE) AND I CAN ALSO DO HIGH PITCH SCREAMS (ALEXI LAIHO STYLE) BUT WHEN EVER I TRY THRASH TYPE VOCALS (PHIL ANSELMO STYLE) I END UP SOUNDING LIKE MORBID ANGEL ON "WHERE THE SLIME LIVE". ANYWAY, WHAT EVER IT IS I'M DOING MUST BE THE CORRECT WAY BECAUSE I'M YET TO LOOSE MY VOICE OR GET A THROAT ACHE ::::KNOCKS ON WOOD::::


HAIL

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For death metal growl try drinking massive amounts of coke ...(it works for me) and i get a deeper-guttural effect... I cant really scream cause i always lose tone and pitch...(and no im not a vocalist i just do it for fun and to scare old ladies)

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So wait... if you eat yogurt to help, then do you eat it even when your not singing to help or just before you sing?

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hahahaha. fuck man, i do the same thing! it's also fun to scare little kids. hehe

The best thing to do is to start growling in middle of math class...

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is your avatar a picture of you?

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