At last, the new football season is just around the corner and the annual institution that is the MetalTabs European football thread is due to rear its impossibly handsome head.

So, football fans, focus all your 2007/8 predictions, discussions, rants, transfer rumours and slurs against Manchester United in this fine thread.

I'll get things moving by predicting that Liverpool will be English Champions this season. Why? Fernando Torres will add that extra something special up front to go with our already immense midfield and defensive units. This will give us greater edge away from home and help to turn some of those away defeats into draws and victories.

I think Chelsea will suffer this year due to the African Nations Cup taking place in January. They'll be missing Essien (with Gerrard, the best midfielder in the country) and Drogba (top scorer in the Premier League last year) and they'll find them very hard to replace for four or five weeks. Malouda looks like a very good signing, though.

United are massively overrated (they were shit in the Charity Shield) and were lucky last year that Chelsea had so many crippling injuries to key players and strife between owner and manager. A lot's being made of Wayne Rooney's 14 goals last year (5 were scored against Bolton, leaving him with just 9 goals in the remianing 36 games) and the signing of Tevez. Tevez is too similar to Rooney and isn't a replacement for the goals of Van Horseface. If Ronaldo doesn't maintain his scoring and diving record from last season, they'll struggle for goals.

Arsenal? Sold Henry to Barcelona and replaced him with two unknown defenders and Eduardo. Arsenal are pinning all of their hopes on Van Persie - whose fitness record has to be called into question. Wenger might well have lost the plot this summer and not replacing Henry with a truly world class forward will come back to haunt him. In short, will struggle to even qualify for the Champions' League never mind actually win the Premiership.

My prediction for the top four is thus:

1. Liverpool
2. Manchester United
3. Cheslea
4. Tottenham Hotspur

What of the Champions' League I hear you ask? I think once again, Liverpool's European pedigree will mean we will advance furthest out of the British teams. United bottle it every year but I've got a feeling that if Liverpool faulter it could be Chelsea's year. Obviously, Barcelona have strengthened massively with the addition of Henry and Inter look like a good side (they beat United in pre-season even though United were a month ahead of them in terms of fitness).

The upheaval at Real (again) will once again hamper their progress in Europe but I've got a feeling that Kaka will be the star of the tournament again. The man is unbelievable (unless he's being marked out of the game by Mascherano, that is) and he alone means that Milan will pose a threat to anybody.

My prediction for the four semi-finalists is as follows:

1. Liverpool
2. Milan
3. Barcelona
4. Chelsea

Inter are good, but will lack the experience of playing in such high profile games at the business end of the tournament. United just don't have the right mentality for European competition and Ferguson is usually outfoxed by superior European tacticians (Ancelotti for one) so don't be surprised to see them go out at the quarter final stage. The first decent side they came up against last year (Milan in the semi-finals) beat them so expect them to struggle against good opposition.

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Sweet, a new one

John I think you forgot about PSV when you're talking about the CL
They beat AC Milan and Real Madrid for the railways cup, they outclassed Real badly. RvN wasn't playing though, he's still injured.

For the Dutch competition it's going to be very tight, like last year it will be decided in the last few matches:

PSV
Again, a very strong team. They only lost Alex but have some very, very talented young players in the team. Last year they bought the Brasilian super talent Jonathan Reis, he will be brought to the first team this year.
PSV has a very young but very talented team, guys under 20 with experience against AC Milan and the national team. Remember the names Ismael Aisatti, Ibrahim Affelay and Otman Bakkal. The Dutch people will enjoy these players for the years to come.

Ajax
Had a very tough break in the transfer market, lost Babel and will probably lose Sneijder to Real Madrid for 30 mil.
They have a good team though with some very creative attackers like Suarez, Leonardo, Rommedahl and Huntelaar. Their defence is great with Ogaragu, Stam, Heitinga and Vermaelen.
Their midfield is pretty shitty though, Davids is the driving force but he's out for 3 months. Maduro isn't up to his old level and the rest is pretty shitty...
IMHO if they sell Sneijder and don't get a decent replacement for the midfield, then they don't have any chance for the title or getting far in the CL..

Feyenoord
Had a very shitty team last year, they won't even play european soccer which decided the management to ditch the trainer!
Feyenoord has allmost sold Drenthe to Real Madrid and that's pure profit for a player that never delivered in their team but did great in the national team.
They invested a lot of money in some very good players, Roy Makaay, Bruins, Slory and ofcourse Giovanni v. Bronckhorst from Barca that came back to get his old team back to the top. Gio is a Feyenoord product and will probably stay there untill his retirement.
I think they will definetly play for the title with PSV, Ajax and AZ. They don't have the burden of any european games so that's what they will go for.

AZ
The outsiders, played great games last year under Louis van Gaal. (ex Ajax coach from '95 when they won everything, world cup, europa cup I, etc.)
Van Gaal is staying and wants to take the team further this year, AZ has some very promising players like Demeblé, Ari da Silva, De Zeeuw, Waterman and some others.
It's hard to predict what they'll do this year, last year they allmost snatched the championship but threw it away in the last match.
They're new to the top but I think they'll definetly stay here, they've done some good business in the transfer market.

My prediction for the Dutch league;

1. PSV
2. Ajax
3. Feyenoord
4. AZ

If Ajax finds a good replacement for Sneijder or if they keep them, I think they will beat PSV for the title. Though I don't expect them to find anyone from his caliber in such short notice.

In Europe it's a bit to early to make any predictions, I think AC Milan is an excellent side with Seedorf, Kaka and Gatusso.
Chelsea has a wide selection but they allways mess up in the CL, Barca has been pretty shitty last year so they'll be eager to set things straight.
Liverpool has a great team this year and they will definetly be up there with the last four. Manchester hasn't really impressed me yet but I'll wait and see before I say anything about them. PSV will be up there with, at least, the final 8. They pulled it off a few times in a row and last year they team was very weak compared to two years ago!

Real Madrid has really been growing into shape, if RvN keeps this up and Drenthe and Sneijder find their way to Madrid, I think they will definetly do a lot better then last year. Very wide selection as well, they will throw some heavy punches.

Anyways, predictions are hard to make since there's still a lot to happen in the coming months, let's hope for a great season! Tomorrow the season starts over here when the cup winner meets the league winner, it's AJAX v.s. PSV!

I would like to remind everybody that we can automatically discount john's perdictions.

Copied as is from last years thread
"United will struggle in the league this year, particularly if Rooney gets injured. Stalwarts such as Giggs, Scholes and Neville are in, or entering, the twilight of their career and United will lose a guaranteed 25+ goals a season striker in van Nistelrooy as well as their creative hub, Ronaldo. These players have not been replaced by younger equals, either from the youth system or in the transfer market as United can no longer attract the top names in world football.

If United are not careful, they could even be pipped for the final Champions League place by a rapidly improving Spurs team that is flourishing under the guidance of Martin Jol."

ha.

So, liverpool spent some cash on Fernando Torres..... It is still the Gerrard show. No attacking flair = Rafa therefore Liverfoul will still struggle to score 2 or 3 goals a game.

Perdictions for EPL
Manchester United
Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs/Arsenal - I'm leaning towards spurs but I'm not totally shutting the door on arsenal either.

Ajax just won their first prize, the Johan Cruijf cup, after beating PSV

some nice goals here, lots of Bergkamp, van Basten and the famous Ibrahimovic goal; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXtG...related&search=

FUCK! Sneijder is sold to Real Madrid for 27 million euro's. Darn, so it's Drenthe, RvN and Sneijder at Real. Maybe Robben will go as well.

Him and Babel brought Ajax 40+ million, hope they get a good replacement...

God damn when it comes to Liverpool you aren't very objective are you?
Your post seemed like it was written by a sports reporter haha

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I think this year could be the year!

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liverpool will have to wait a couple more decades to win, this is chelsea's year

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And here I come to say it's Manchester's year,once more

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At least Dick Turpin had the common decency to wear a fucking mask...

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lol, you seen 'em lately?

In Holland the top clubs have done well, PSV won, AZ won, Feyenoord won. But Ajax just crushed the opposition with 8 goals. Huntelaar made 4, nice way to start a season

Real madrid lost against Sevilla but what a goal by Drenthe, from like 30 metres distance..

As long as the entire Real Madrid-squad dies in an airplane-accident I'm happy.

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No,to tell you the truth I don't bother much with sports it's just some companies
making big money.Maybe I'll watch a CL match once in a while and that's it

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Haha, not a fan, I presume.

I'm not a big fan of their way of 'buying' a team each year. Over here it's mostly youghtly players that come for a team's own trainingground. Teams like Ajax and PSV have been doing that for years and everytime Real or Barca or Milan comes and buys the best for a bunch of millions.
PSV got big that way, selling players like Kezman, Robben and Ronaldo.
Ajax kinda did the same with players like Seedorf, Sneijder, Van Basten, Overmars, Bergkamp, Kluivert, Ibrahimovic and Babel...

Yeah, I heard about that - was it a friendly or an actual league game?

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I know, I live south of you country

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An actual league game John.

Ajax bought a new striker called Suarez, which was a revelation last year, he played for a pretty shitty club called FC Groningen, he's replacing Babel.
Apperently Huntelaar and him can find each other blindfolded, they made some absolutely marvellous combinations.

They're also in the market for Riera for the other attacking flank but I don't think they'll succeed in getting him..

Hehe, neighbour from the country of great beers

Same shit happens to the Belgian competition, right? Defour, Boussafa, Vermaelen, Vertonghen, the good ones get sold to teams in foreign leagues.

Its 4 games in no need for panic. Injuries are killing us, I'm not concerned at all.

DA BEARS!

Ronaldo being suspended is killing United - and that was his own fault. To be fair it's not affecting United too much, particularly since referees are clamouring to give you a helping hand.

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it doesn't matter, chelsea top of the table so far

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Aston Villa 2 - 0 Chelsea

I think John's previous prediction of the 'top four' is a probability now, especially considering how Liverpool have started. Get rid of Tottenham and stick either Everton, Arsenal or some other outsider in there and he's probably spot on.

If Man Utd play as shit as they did against us, (Everton), this weekend then I can see the title race being between Chelsea and Liverpool. Arsenal are unpredictable at the moment, they manage to win games yet there is that hint of vunerability lurking somewhere.

Still....early days, so everything I have just typed counts for nothing. I do enjoy wasting my time.

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All hail United

All hail PSV for beating Feyenoord with 4-0

Ajax back in the No.1 spot in the competition, it's been quite a while. Ten Cate will get the sack after this year, I bet Van Basten will take up his place. Ten Cate has achieved a lot in Holland but failed to qualify for the CL twice.

A club like Ajax can't afford that.... UEFA cup soccer isn't up to their standards and they will probably lose against some shitty club that has 10 men standing in front of their goal..

United beat Chelsea but the match was ruined by that poor referee. Also I don't think that coach will last long, prolly just some kind of interim dude. They need Hiddink...

*Mike Dean

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Van Basten was sitting next to Abramhovic yesterday, for the sake of Ajax I hope he doesn't start coaching there!

Grant's a stop gap until next summer when Hiddink will take over.

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I wonder, Hiddink has a contract with the Russians right, could he do both at the same time? He's really into bringing the Russians back on the top level..

But eh, with a private plane, I guess it wouldn't be much of a problem

Abramovich is bank rolling the Russian national side so I don't think there'll be too much of a problem with Hiddink leaving

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Mike dean my ass. United had the game from the kickoff. I did however bet that liverpool would win on the weekend, however I was wrong.

Well, you can't say he was 'steady at the whistle' United probably would have won anyway but that foul on Ronaldo was way worse and he didn't do much there...

Ofcourse, the diving wanker deserves it, but that's besides the point.

Shite, Van Persie has been doing pretty good stuff for Arsenal lately. I didn't expect him to be able to handle it on that level yet.

Ajax has been terrible the last few weeks, people are screaming for his departure after missing the CL twice in a row. A club like Ajax can't handle that financially and their fans can't handle it either. Especially since PSV is playing CL..
There's loads of injuries, Vermaelen, Davids, Leonardo and some others but that's no excuse, there's still Stam, Huntelaar, Maduro, Heitinga, Gabri, Luque, Suarez, pff. More quality then in PSV but it's not been showing lately.

Rumours are that Ten Cate is leaving to be a 'field' trainer for Chelsea, same job he did for Barca before he wen to Ajax. Making players better, not thinking about tactics. Apperently he's good at that job because as a regular trainer he sucks goat chode.

We'll see sunday, the press is saying he'll announce his departure after the match on sunday.
btw. Huntelaar is top scorer with 8 goals in 6 competition matches, it's great how he can still stand out, even if a team is playing that shitty.

Ajax will do well to keep hold of Huntelaar beyond next summer. I reckon he'll end up at Barcelona before too long.

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Scored again today and twice on thursday. I think he'll easily get another 30+ goals in the competition, he's allready at 9 in the comp and we're just getting started..

I don't think he'll go to Barca, he's smarter then that because there's way too many strikers there and he does want to play. I think he'de do very well in England as well, he's become more then just a static striker since last year. I know Ajax can't hold on to him, this guy 'could' be the next Marco van Basten if he keeps progressing.

Ajax is trying to get Alfonso Alves to follow him up, he just returned for Heerenveen and after 20 minutes he allready scored his first hattrick today! Very talented mofo but apperently he has some personal problems. He's also in the Brasilian team but he hasn't really played much.. Ajax does well with difficult players (like Kezman and Ibrahimovic) but they need to clean ship over there else they can't be of any significance on the european level.

Holy crap, Alves scored another 4 goals in the same match! What a monster! A double hattrick+1... if I get some footage I'll post it up. It's a one man show against the team that's on the bottom of the competition!!!

What a return. It's an historical afternoon for Heerenveen.. wtf, this never happens.
The Heerenveen coach allready used his 3 allowed subsitutions but he wants to give him a cheering-substitution as well. He'll just continue with 10 men. Awesome.

Van Persie isn't doing all too shabby either!

Hahaha, Heerenveen fans don't want to let him go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozzl...related&search=

Yeah, 7 goals in a game is pretty damn imrpessive. Quite a few English clubs were taking a look at Alves in the summer. His scoring record is impressive but I think a lot of potential suitors are put off by him playing in a league that's seen to be not as good as the Premiership.

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Yup, I know. But quite some clubs of the premiership have been beaten by clubs from that league. Ofcourse he wouldn't have scored 7 goals against Ajax, PSV or Feyenoord but it's still quite a feat.

Alves was a one day fly last year but apperently he's more then that... Ofcourse 20 million isn't a lot of money for the english, spanish or italian league but it's still quite an investment over here. Money is ruining this sport. And that's sad. Just look at Real buying Robben, Sneijder, RVN, etc.

I think RVN is the best example, he's been top scorer in 3 major leagues. Quite a feat if you ask me, I don't see Alves reaching that level yet, RVN did similair things when he was playing over here but nobody acknowledged his skills.

RVN is hands down the best striker I've ever seen play (mind you I'm only 22).


There was a United link for Huntelaar in the summer, didn't happen but I think thats an asset we need. Espically with china doll Saha

Who knows it'll happen next summer. I know he's going to leave Ajax after this year and Ten Cate just got a agreement with Chelsea so he's leaving as well. (good riddance)

Huntelaar keeps amazing me every season, in two years he became on of the most feared strikers around. PSV kicked him out of their training program because they didn't see 'it' in him. The one who made the call in 2002 was Guus Hiddink and boy was he ever wrong...
Like RVN he's invisible in some matches but often he does score, out of nothing. He needs half a chance to make a goal and that's what makes a good striker IMHO.

It's too early to say he's the next best thing, he's still young but he could go a long way under good guidance. Like Sneijder who's playing great for Real, we all expected a lot from him but maybe this step was one too fast.
The only 'young' player out of Holland that recently made the transition worth his while was Van Persie, he's been away from Feyenoord for quite a while and adapted very well.

yeah van persie has really been playing well for the past 2 years or so.



Hey Def wassup dude?long time

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I'm fine man, been kinda busy lately but I'm around every now and then.

John, Alves is beeing linked to Liverpool. Would be one hell of an asset if you ask me.

Yeah, I read that in the paper yesterday. It would seem Rafa has lost faith in Crouch and will probably offload him in January.

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Yeah, heard the same story.

Don't know about Ajax but there's some heavy shit hitting the fan there. Rumours are that Van Basten will be coaching them next year but that he wants to finish the EC2008 first.

Holy shit, Guus Hiddink pulls it off again!

McClaren's a cock.

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Yes, he is. Like Sir Alex...

But anyways, if Russia prevents England from qualifying, that would be quite a feat. For Russia... Jeez...

If the dick wins me cups I don't care hahahaha

1 nil Liverpool at the half. Arsenal need some more players in the wides positions, and liverpool needs to stop being defensive cunts.

manchester city sucks big hairy balls. 6 - 0 OOO CHELSEA IS COMING BACK BITCHES

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Arsenal were unbelievable in the first half on Sunday. I think they are defintely the main contenders for the title this year.

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I agree John, I think there's more to come as well. Since Henry has gone it's become more of a team, van Persie has been progressing as well the last time scoring a lot of important goals. (even in the CL)

Maybe some of you have heard, Jaap Stam, the Dutch Destroyer has stopped with soccer this week. He stopped immediatly because his body couldn't handle top performance. His dad also passed away last week and well Ajax didn't qualify for the CL what should have been his stage to say goodbye to the fans.. Very sad but he has had a wonderfull carreer, especially in his days for ManU and AC Milan.
His first year for Ajax was good but the last few months were full of injuries.

He's saying goodbye in a special match that's beeing broadcasted on TV, he's playing with a team selected by himself against Ajax and the money raised will go to charity, helping kids with cancer.

Also heard that Van der Sar will quit the national team after EC2008 and might retire from the PL as well to return to Holland for one last year in the goal. Don't think he'll come back to Ajax, since they have Stekelenburg which is the new Van der Sar...

Yeah, Stam's decision was reported over here - a bit surprising but at least now he can concentrate on exposing Ferguson for all the illegal approaches he makes to potential signings.

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Haha, Ferguson allways looks like such a prick on the press conferences, it makes me chuckle.

Just heard that PSV's trainer, Koeman is also leaving for Valencia. I wonder who will replace him... PSV has been doing pretty decent in the CL the last few years, usually up there with the final 8. Withouth Koeman I don't think they'll make it.

Ajax will probably have Van Basten next year, the team that he will get looks very promising, lots of young Ajax-bred talent. Since Ten Cate left the replacement coach (from young-ajax) is giving a lot of youngsters a chance. Just saw them beat Heerenveen tonight for the cup with 3-1, could have been 6-1.

Huntelaar was brilliant again, hope he doesn't leave for ManU during the winter stop.

Holy shit England...

That was sad, Croatia was giving it all and never backed down, England's defence was pretty poor but they showed fighting spirit and came back to 2-2. Croatia had several chances due to poor defending and could have made a few more.. Still 2-3 was enough for the win.

Sad really, Beckham's last time, who knows it's the end for other players as well. I hope it's the end for that coach, never seen England in such a lousy condition throughout the qualifiers. (tonight's game wasn't even that bad compared to previous matches)

On another note, this result does mean that Hiddink pulls it off again. After Holland, South-Korea, Australia, he's now put Russia through to a main tournament. His goal with Russia was competing in the WC2010. Now he just got lucky I guess... He's building up Russian soccer along with Abramovic, building stadions, training grounds, etc. They've been off the world chart of soccer for quite a while (remember 1988?) but this might be the start of their way up.

poor england. played burtal got what they deserved

It's a shame though, I was hoping for a holland - england match. (since they usually have a high entertainment value!)

Now it's Russia instead, they haven't exactly showed much either. Guess it's still England's own fault though, they let it go when Israel gave them a chance.

Couldn't agree more. We've been abysmal for years now and unless we get someone like Capello, with real standing in the game, that isn't going to change.

I don't really care to be honest, most supporters in England north of Watford put club before country in any case.

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Well, Euro 2008 organisers are happy there's no English hools coming over this time. Shame some ruine it for the rest, I had a good time watching England matches in the English pub in the city. (and learned a few songs, haha)

Over here it's definetly not club before country, when it's EC/WC time everyone goes apeshit and suddenly we have 17 million coaches.
And ofcourse, they never play good enough, not even if they win. We've qualified quite easily but threw away all matches after that with a B-team. There was a lot of critique on Van Basten for that.

John, do you think Capello is that good? Honestly, I'de like to see Hiddink give it a shot, but that's not going to happen with the Russians pulling the strings. I heard Mourinho only wants to coach Portugal, which would be an improvement over that sack of shit Scolari.

Capello has done everything in the game; won league titles all over Europe and the Champions' League so would command respect from the egos in the English squad. What England need is a manager with a spine who can get them playing as a team rather than a collection of indivuals. I think Capello is that man, particularly in the absence of anybody else putting their name forward who fits the bill.

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I think you'll see the return of the special one as the english coach. You heard it here first.

Hm yeah, he's out of a job as well. But it would be weird for a foreigner to coach your national team. Over here it's a big no-no. (guess we're one of the only country's left..)

We get van Basten who barely has any coaching abilities. But most people think it's Cruyff pulling the strings behind the scene. I don't know, we have the same problem, bunch of good players but not a collective. Croatia showed to be a great collective, some of those players play in our Eredivisie, Pranjic never impressed me much but he played like a man possesed against England.

I heard some more namedropping, Van Gaal. Hahaha! I don't think that's serious, right?

Liverpool played a poor match in the CL but at least they won...

I think Capello looks like the favourite, according to today's newspapers.

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Anyone else see the drawing for the euro 08 groups

1. Switzerland
2. Czech Republic
3. Portugal
4. Turkey

1. Austria
2. Croatia
3. Germany
4. Poland

1. Netherlands
2. Italy
3. Romania
4. France

1. Greece
2. Sweden
3. Spain
4. Russia

WE ARE IN THE GROUP OF DEATH....FUCK. Van Basten better not shit the bed this time

Not 'fuck' at all man, should be some great matches to enjoy!!
Van Basten finally has a chance to prove that he's a good tactician and not only a good striker. He's had his time to try out new players and used that opportunity, he hasn't played with his final 11.

My guess:


Van Persie----------- RVN-------
------------Sneijder-------------
vd Vaart---------------Seedorf--
------------van Bommel----------
Emanuelson----------------GIO---
--------Ooijer--Heitinga----------
-----------vd sar----------------

We're definetly in the most attractive group but I think group B & D will be great as well. The only easy one is group A, Portugal will definetly go through.

Holy shit! Look at that group! Still fancy Holland and Italy to qualify though.

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Looking at that lineup.. wow.. I sometimes forget how full of potential Holland are.

That's the right way to put it. Full of potential.

But it barely comes out! That's the problem. It's usually a team of players that earn a lot of money in foreign competitions but it's also a team that's barely a solid unit as a team. There's no cohesion and it's been a problem for years. We need an awesome coach to guide us to victory, like we had in 1988. We had great players but never a great team.

This hasn't changed much over there years, we always have great players (especially strikers and midfielders) but never a great team. I think we can finally show what we're worth against Italy and France. If we don't, we don't deserve to go through. But IF you survive in this group you're definetly a competitor for the title.

It's just a fucking shame England isn't with us in 2008. I would love a Holland-England game. Great entertainment value!

-----------------RVN---------------

--------------V.Persie--------------

Robben------Sneijder-------Seedorf

---------Vd Vaart-----V. Bommel-------

----------Ooijer--Heitinga----Gio-------
----------------vd.Sar---------------

I like RVN as the sole CF with V. Persie playing off him. Midfield is packed, and going with 3 at the back. I wouldn't go with 3 defenders against Italty however and at this time I wouldn't select Robben, hopefully he gets out of his funk.

Hm, that's a bit too offensive if you ask me. Vd Vaart is no defensive midfielder and playing like this you won't have any build-up from the rear. (or risk your defence laying wide open)

I hope Van Basten does let Seedorf, Sneijder and Vd Vaart play in on midfield but he's probably going for a 4-3-3 formation with De Zeeuw in the midfield, along with Sneijder and Seedorf. Whilst abusing Vd Vaart as a forward. (paired to RVN and v. Persie)

Robben has been shit lately, I wonder if he ever gets his shape back. I really doubt it. Kuyt hasn't been all to great either and Babel isn't of the right caliber. (yet)

Marco van Basten will leave the Dutch squad after EC2008, no matter the outcome. Guess the critique has gotten to him, he has won a lot of games but the fashion in which they were won wasn't up to the standards we expect.. In Italy winning is winning but it's a tad different over here, how weird it may sound!

I hope we get Hiddink or Rijkaard back. Hiddink will probably stay with his Russian drug money

How and why!

Well it was the greatest football team in the land (Manchester United) laying a beating to the title hopes of Liverfoul. It was a great day, liverpool couldn't break United down. Good victory.

Hm. I want to see Manu against Arsenal, with Van Persie back they looked great again. Still, he needs some match-rythm, he messed up two opportunities he would normally promote to a goal..

Manu was good, finally a goal for Tevez, I really thought he was impressive for Argentina a while back but never quite understood why Manu bought him.

On the other hand, great day for AC Milan as well. Winning the world cup against Boca and finally bringing the cup back to Europe again.
Seedorf was awesome and so was Inzaghi, Kaka won the golden ball and Seedorf the silver ball. And Maldini announced he was going to quit soccer after this season...

He's 39 now and has won everything there is to win. A real clubman, his kid is allready under contract and his shirt number has been reserved for his kid. How awesome is that.

Seedorf makes me proud to be dutch

PSV need a new supercoach!

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PSV is fucked, Ajax FTW!

PSV needs a new coach and they need some routine in their selection, it's all young talents they got but that's not enough to keep your head above the water in the CL.

And they better keep Gomes happy, he is the absolute star of the selection if you ask me

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Funny, our certain Liverpool friend has not yet added his two cents worth. It still might be their year HAHAHAHA!

We're not out of it, not by a long shot. However, we will need to pick up points away to The Scum, Chelsea and Arsenal - which is going to be difficult. While Torres and Gerrard are in the team I wouldn't write us off just yet.

Also, U****d, like last year, performed their usual smash and grab at Anfield. I thought you lot were shit to be honest: Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez and Giggs did fuck all and it was only a good defensive performance that gave you the points.

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