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Old 2007-03-28, 23:31
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Ironbird

if any of you jackasses steal this ill kill you but...
i found a very shitted out ironbird on ebaycrapper
i reallize it will take a shit load of work but this is exactly what iv'e been looking for... a sweet shaped guitar damn cheap with a tremolo cavity so i can supe it up

before i bid though, can anyone tell me anythin about the wood that these are made out of? i believe it says platinum on the headstock but you guys decide what it is. but any help on the tonal qualities of its' would would be very appreciated as this is a very good oppurtunity i would want to pass up
 
Old 2007-03-29, 00:21
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sorry dude but thats mine...i apologize...
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Old 2007-03-29, 00:33
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Don't do it... plywood guitar... A shame really, but platinums are very crappy man. Wait a while longer and score a funky old(or newer) NJ series Ironbird, way better build quality and hardware, or an International series or other rare decent import series, stay away from those platinums.
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Old 2007-03-29, 00:42
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sorry dude but thats mine...i apologize...


no way


realy?
 
Old 2007-03-29, 00:44
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soeru like this?ironbird
edit i heard on HC that they have terrible balance the NJ's,
is this true
im only 15 right now and am 5"4' so would this be comfortable to play?

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Old 2007-03-29, 01:56
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ha i was looking for irionbirds and found that you once wanted to sell yours.
now you love it :P
 
Old 2007-03-29, 06:36
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I'd buy an NJ Ironbird, but not with the fuckin speedloader trem. Buying strings for it would piss me off.
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Old 2007-03-29, 14:44
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I agree about the whole speedloader deal. I appreciate the goal that the engineers had but in the end, I prefer normal bridges... even if that means taking that much more time to replace a broken string during a gig.
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Old 2007-03-29, 14:53
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Yeah the speedloaders are kinda lame. Thomann.de has a big stock of the speedloader NJ Ironbird's left, they're selling em at 300 euros here in the EU which is pretty good for the price, but would require modding it for a regular floyd bridge and normal tuners. Definitely worth it if you can find someone to do it for you for cheap because they're great guitars.

Joam I NEVER have considered selling my Ironbird.

Btw Joamdude, the balance thing is partly true. All the newer 24 fret 25.5" scale Ironbirds have a slightly longer wingspan and therefore neckdive a little, unlike the old 22 fret Ironbirds which have a shorter wingspan. I still love it though, I just had to change the strap buttons(Schallers) to another place and now it balances perfectly.

The older more "square-y" and 80's ones have a slightly smaller wingspan and neck length, probably more comfortable for smaller people... like Trey's Ironbird.
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Old 2007-03-29, 14:57
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can you post a pic in this thread and show me where yuour old drill holes are and then your new ones?
and i may just buy a mahogany body blank from warmoth
 
Old 2007-03-29, 14:59
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can you post a pic in this thread and show me where yuour old drill holes are and then your new ones?
and i may just buy a mahogany body blank from warmoth

at not seelling your ironbird?

oh yeah? hmm then what is this :P
 
Old 2007-03-29, 15:23
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what are the nj ironbirds with speedloaders like to play? any good?
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Old 2007-03-29, 15:58
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Haha Joamdude that was another NJ Ironbird I had which was total crap. I later found out that it wasn't a real NJ, it was a platinum Pro body with a NJ Warlock's neck. It was SHITE.

The one I have now is an all NJ Ironbird from 2001, with the fastback heels(AANJ style).

Mordor the NJ I have should be just like the speedloader one, minus the bridge style. Probably plays just as nice as mine does if not better.
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Old 2007-03-29, 16:24
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cheers man, me might purchase one cos there fucking damn cheap
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Old 2007-03-29, 16:50
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Haha Joamdude that was another NJ Ironbird I had which was total crap. I later found out that it wasn't a real NJ, it was a platinum Pro body with a NJ Warlock's neck. It was SHITE.

The one I have now is an all NJ Ironbird from 2001, with the fastback heels(AANJ style).

Mordor the NJ I have should be just like the speedloader one, minus the bridge style. Probably plays just as nice as mine does if not better.


they still get made?!?!?!!!! no way?! where they aren't endorsed on the BCR website.
but anywasy if they don't how do you think about the idea of just getting a body blank. if i did, the neck for it would be sick (from warmoth), imagine a wizard maple neck with a macassar ebony fretboard!!!! it would be mahogany w/ OFR (of course), dimarzio's and a jackson headstock
 
Old 2007-03-29, 17:35
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No no no... Ironbirds are no longer made, the last ones made were in 2001-02 I think.

Warmoth does not sell Ironbird bodies, and they're pretty rare to come across on ebay unless it's beatup lowend plywood BCR's unless you ask for a custom which is a lot of cash.

Just wait on ebay for a nice Ironbird, it's your best bet.
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Old 2007-03-29, 18:17
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how do you think about the idea of just getting a body blank. if i did, the neck for it would be sick (from warmoth), imagine a wizard maple neck with a macassar ebony fretboard!!!! it would be mahogany w/ OFR (of course), dimarzio's and a jackson headstock
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Old 2007-03-29, 18:38
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If you have access to a band-saw and a router, go for it.
 
Old 2007-03-30, 12:05
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im seeing a lot of nj series on ebay for under 400. does it have to be an ironbird? get a mocking or bich imo.

i got a nj beast (not my first choice of body but hey) for 300 local and have no complaints ... even the stock pu's are decent. it's my fave neck out of all my guitars, and it sustains like a motherfuck. if only the upper wing didnt stab me in the heart ... i have to wedge my wallet in there when i play on my lap hehe.
 
Old 2007-03-30, 14:13
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Ironbird > Mockingbird or Bich.

Next question!
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Old 2007-03-30, 15:19
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MUST be an ironbird
 
Old 2007-03-30, 17:46
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I've just ordered one of those NJ series ironbirds of thomann.de. Should be fucking sweet, ebony fretboard, speedloader, mahogany body.

I'm a bit worried because it seems to good to be true for the price. But there supposed to be a good company so we'll see.

I cant wait
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Old 2007-03-30, 20:19
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The body ain't really mahogany btw, it's NATO which is its easter counterpart but it's still pretty decent wood. The board should be rosewood too I think.

All in all for 300$ it's a killer pointy guitar, but you're gonna need new pickups and a bridge swap perhaps. Or maybe those speedloaders aint so bad...
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Old 2007-03-31, 00:01
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me and my friend are just gonna make a mockingbird. fuck it!
are they easier to alt pick on in the way that in explorer would be more comfy than a strat?
 
Old 2007-04-07, 11:29
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the ironbird arrived and its fucking amazing, the new speedloaders wicked and the fretboard is ebony , all for just £200
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Old 2007-04-07, 14:46
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taht good? tell more
 
Old 2007-04-07, 19:10
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the ironbird arrived and its fucking amazing, the new speedloaders wicked and the fretboard is ebony , all for just £200

Where do you intend to get strings and how much do they cost?
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Old 2007-04-07, 21:41
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pretty much all online string shops have them

they cost about twice the price of normal strings
 
Old 2007-04-08, 11:37
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if u have the chance, buy one!! its so fucking good. The necks thin, the ebonys really smooth and has easy fret access. The bodys fairly light which is suprising cos its says it mahongany (must be some type of korean wood). As for the speedloader; its really good; stays in tune really well; it doesnt take long at all to change strings and tunings and you can also block the trem so it just divebombs and doesnt pull up. I'm so fucking happy that i bought this guitar, the strings cost about £6 a pack but 4 packs came free with my guitar . Got a case and the guitar for £250
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Old 2007-04-08, 13:28
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Drill holes in the headstock for tuners and replace the trem with a normal floyd rose and you got yourself a great ironbird.
 
Old 2007-04-08, 17:36
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Holy shit man you just made that Ironbird extremely tempting. I wish they had it in another finish though, I have 3 black guitars.
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Old 2007-04-09, 01:21
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you should buy one, sand it off
and paint it that finsih that some kelly has,
that looks like a galaxy (sooooo sweet)
 
Old 2007-04-09, 01:48
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if you're going for soemthing like that, then this site might be of some help:

http://www.kneguitars.com/bod_list.php

the guy isnt charging a whole lot for those bodies, so i highly doubt he'd charge much more than that for a custom body.

i'm thinking of getting that RR-vee body. its supposed to be around 120 USD.

or if you want something more radical, try this guy:

http://www.dotonshaft.com/product-details.cfm?id=1479

or, Abstract gutiars. you can NEVER go wrong with em:

http://www.edromanguitars.com/newsi.../bodyblanks.htm

i'm not sure, but apparently, those Abstract Body Blanks go for about $289.00 USD at ed roman gutiars
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