I dont know how to explain the title above but an example would be Metallica's song fade to black during cunning stunts concert.I wonder how songs that are recorded ends by fading away and when performed live, you deliver a kickass end to the song.is there any cliche's ending style, methods, or is there any of your own favourite ? provide a video especially from youtube if you have one.thanks!

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the only song i know of that ive heard live without the fade out is cky's flesh into gear. oh, and suffocation's tomes of acrimony. generally the ending is played as it was recorded and instead of fading out they just keep playing it. oh, and cynic's how could i.

normally they dont change the song itself it just doesnt fade out

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yep.

edit: thread author-youve never seen a band dvd? or just one of a band that doesnt have a song fade out. its pretty damn easy to assume that they just wouldnt do the fade out.

Metallica's Welcome Home Sanitarium is about cliche ending as you can get. The original recording is the same too.

You generally just play the semitone higher than the root and hold it then pause and play the root note and hold that. Then let the drums do a sort of "fiddly dump" at the end. Its hard to explain but I tried.




Also Creeping Death has a massive ending.

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volume pedals.

it aint gonna as thorough as a recorded fade out but you could do something close

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they make volume pedals for drums now?

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itll take a good drummer with dynamic control to subtley lower the volume to a whisper.

not impossible, but not precisely a studio engineered fade out. can be done, just not as good.

a similiar thing is a common blues effect where a riff is dropped down real quiet.....to only rise back into a roar it had dropped down from.

known as a "slight return", if im not mistaken.

ill say it again and again. volume dynamic is something metal is missing out on to thier discredit. also pushing and dragging tempos, alot of elements of songwriting is entirely missing.

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i know what you meant i was screwing around, and yes good point

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i do watch band dvds for example opeth's lamentations and such. However they dont have that 'kickass' ending style where they add to their original song during live performance. Honestly i can say that Metallica is pretty good at it but i want more examples besides them. by the way the slight return thingy is very interesting and JAMF, i understand what you are trying to say.Thanks

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i am ashamed to admit, i just now realized that instead of "live" you wrote "life". and that is lame as fuck.

Yeah, I was wondering what the hell a song-style ending to a life performance could be, aside from killing oneself in the manner described in this or that song. In which case I recommend hanging underwater in a non-functional rainbow trout replica breathing mask.

Traditional things include playing the riff slowly and emphatically, leading into the standard Iron Maiden 'duh-duh-duh-duh, DUH-DUH-DUUH-DUUUH!' or whatever ending, which is fine. Some bands just choose an arbitrary cutoff point. What I'd suggest instead of these tried-and-true-methods is to do a medley on the riff in various different musical styles, ending in an extended free jazz jam into which the riff's structure has dissolved like spit in the ocean. At the very least, it'd be nice to have something more rewarding than a standard 'important' iteration of the riff.

lol i didnt even realised that.Yeah the title's kinda missleading and i dont have a clue on how to phrase it into a title.sorry though

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Are you Switsgaar from DethKlok or something?

Anyways, I would say just doing something outragious and "made up on the spot," or at least appear to be, with drums just filling away going "dubidoobuhduhdo!" and guitars just kinda soloing getting higher and higher or some crap with chords and bass...bass doesn't even do anything in the first place. You shouldn't even have a bass player.

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The most used and cliched is what I like to recall the 'rock n roll ending'(ala intro to Hit the Lights) loads of 70's bands used it like AC/DC and it involves strumming fast on the E chord (for example) whilst the lead guitar does noodling, then the E strumming slows down or holds a chord(with either a lead fill, drum rolls or feedback) and then a crash to end. Some bands managed to drag this sort of ending out and create false endings (i.e Motorhead's Overkill)

I would guess that most bands write an ending to a song but only later when recording it do they opt for the fade out before that ending kicks in.

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ending in a feedback drone after an incredible slowdown on the last riff is cool.

kinda overdone, but really cant go wrong with it.

another thing is what i tried to write for this new song im working on but couldnt really capture and ending up editing it was.........have a riff build-up, the kinda riff that has a mid-tempo drumbeat thats inside a roll of toms with cymbal crashes on the 1 or placed where ever. really push it, a real dramatic increase of volume/intensity for a few measures. then do a fret slide or whatever thats called and on the last quarter note on the 1, mute that shit, no sustain, drummer grabs the crash right after the hit. let the feedback go for a breif moment then.

one really low chord, or like an open E

BOOOM.....count out an entire measure........BOOOOM......same, now drag it slower.......BOOOOM.....again.......BOOOM......then let that feedback ease into the sustain of the last chord. if you do it loud enough you can make the people close up in the crowd flinch a little, make them involentarilly blink with each hit.

this is the sort of thing....... its like launching mortar at the crowd.

i live for shit like that.

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I like songs that end in silence.

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