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View Poll Results: Is there an afterlife?
Yes 10 19.23%
No 26 50.00%
Unsure 14 26.92%
Don't really think about it 2 3.85%
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Old 2006-11-06, 06:43
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Do you think there is an afterlife?

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Old 2006-11-06, 06:59
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unsure. i cant pick yes or no, because i dont know... for sure.

anyway, i hope there is, because life is too short. not to mention that im spending mine in a time and place that i am not very interested in.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 07:21
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I'd like to think that there isn't, because if afterlife is altogether too similar to "this life", I'd rather just stop functioning completely.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 07:32
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if afterlife is altogether too similar to "this life"

somehow, that doesnt seem very likely. heh.

this might sound dumb, but if our souls go on, and our bodies die here, how will we see or hear without eyes or ears.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 07:54
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It's strange to talk about probability of something that we have no way of finding out anything about until we die. The probability of an afterlife being very similar if not the same as "this life" is the same as the probability of it being just like being inside a game of Super Mario Bros for example.

Bop bop bop BOP bobobop boboBOBOBOP boBOP bobobobop
 
Old 2006-11-06, 08:28
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Bop bop bop BOP bobobop boboBOBOBOP boBOP bobobobop

one too many bop's in that last section there

conceited humans, why should there be an afterlife? haven't you ever heard that saying, "it's not the years in your life that count, but the life in your years," yes? when you die, i think it's more of a....how to put it nicely..rotting-in-the-ground-and-serving-as-repast-for-the-worms kind of thing.
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Old 2006-11-06, 08:51
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does anyone have any crack pot scientist backed scientific proof of it, like some crazy guy theorising it or anything?

I voted no, but it would be cool to read no christian arguments for the idea.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 09:42
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I voted yes, but Im kinda unsure. Believing in God, it feels wierd, but I dunno. Im a very confused little boy.

EDIT: I was going to say something completely different until I thought about it.
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Old 2006-11-06, 10:14
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vote yes. simply because believing something exists beyond life makes death easier.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 11:41
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yes, somewhat, I believe we (and just about most living things around us) have a soul. Not in the way in judeo-christian thinking, as some kind of ethereal you, but more in the way as.. uhm, some text has some more meaning or power between the lines, and I feel there is something between the lines, something between the atoms that is the soul.

The afterlife, I believe in a stream-of-life/reincarnation kind of thing, some people very attached to this existence stay here as ghosts or reincarnate, some join the stream of life. Annyhow, either way, if there is an afterlife or not, and how this afterlife would exist, the person you are ceases after you die. I'm thinking more along the lines of the spark of life that is what keeps on existing.

Shit, I just can't formulate my thoughts on this subject well enough..
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Old 2006-11-06, 12:13
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Old 2006-11-06, 14:03
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Old 2006-11-06, 14:30
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somehow, that doesnt seem very likely. heh.

this might sound dumb, but if our souls go on, and our bodies die here, how will we see or hear without eyes or ears.

As souls, we would probably function on supernatural powers rather than bodily functions, and thus we would thrive on the powers of sight, hearing, touch, and taste. And unlike bodily functions, our powers won't fail us because, essentially, we would be immortal.

I'd like to think there is an afterlife, because what would be the alternative? Even with the theory of.... damn the word escapes me at the moment, but it's where you die and you come back as something or someone else. Well, anyways, even with that theory, you would still have to go somewhere, and eventually you do end up going there. I do believe in a afterlife, whether it's Heaven, Hell, or Cleveland.
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Old 2006-11-06, 14:46
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I'd like to think there is an afterlife, because what would be the alternative? Even with the theory of.... damn the word escapes me at the moment, but it's where you die and you come back as something or someone else. Well, anyways, even with that theory, you would still have to go somewhere, and eventually you do end up going there. I do believe in a afterlife, whether it's Heaven, Hell, or Cleveland.
It's called reincarnation, where you return as something else; proportional to how you acted on earth. But anyway, I seriously do not think there is an afterlife like most people think. I have yet to die or talk to anyone who has, so right now I'm just assuming it is going to be like being asleep without any dreams. Most people think this is unsettling and creepy but I think it would be nice.

But for the most part, I think the reason most people like to believe in an afterlife is that it gives a sense of balance. As tired as this example is, it jsut doesnt seem fair at all that someone like Hitler can die quickly and painlessly from a gunshot wound to the head, while he was responsible for the horrible deaths of 6 million people. So we like to think he is going to get punished 6 million times over in hell to give us a sense of balance that he didn't really get away with it. Sadly though......well you get the point.
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Sleeping without dreams I would imagine would be like floating in eternal darkness. Can't see anyone, can't talk to anyone, can't do anything for eternity. The thought of it makes me sick to my stomach. I doubt that if there is a Hell out there that it couldn't be asbad as what you're describing.
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Old 2006-11-06, 15:04
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I dont think about afterlife much, but I don't believe you go to heaven or hell or any of that shit.
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Old 2006-11-06, 15:11
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I'll leave this open, but warn everyone that this is a topic usually ending with hurt feelings and closure by a mod.

I wouldn't mind having an afterlife. I think another word for it would be "legacy."
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Old 2006-11-06, 16:14
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I personally think there is no after life. Once life is over its over, and as humans we are unable to think of nonexistance.

The same concept of being blind or without eyes. I don't know this for a fact, but i have a hunch that this is how it is, is that we often ask you knwo what do blind see? Black maybe? I would assume they see nothing, and that since we have never been in this state that we can't possible fathom what it means to have no vision at all.

I think this would be the same with death. Since we haven't experienced non-existance, that we can't possibly wrap our minds around not existing. No breathing, no thinking, no blackness, nothing.

Sad, cold, and definately not something that anybody would honestly want to think about for any length of time....
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Old 2006-11-06, 17:21
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I think an afterlife is only possible with the existence of a supreme being. Otherwise I really dont see the possibility of something as ethereal as the concept of a soul having any foundation to exist, if theres no divine presence behind it

And the way I see it, no such holy power exists. Religion most likely is just a convenient way for people to deal with their fears pertaining to death and to explain the paranormal and that which is difficult to comprehend

BTW, if Im wrong, and God is actually looking down on me as I type this, then I would like to extend him the courtesy of my big fat middle finger pointed in his direction. Any God that would forsake his people as this one has definitely isnt worthy of praise
 
Old 2006-11-06, 17:25
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I think an afterlife is only possible with the existence of a supreme being. Otherwise I really dont see the possibility of something as ethereal as the concept of a soul having any foundation to exist, if theres no divine presence behind it

And the way I see it, no such holy power exists. Religion most likely is just a convenient way for people to deal with their fears pertaining to death and to explain the paranormal and that which is difficult to comprehend

BTW, if Im wrong, and God is actually looking down on me as I type this, then I would like to extend him the courtesy of my big fat middle finger pointed in his direction. Any God that would forsake his people as this one has definitely isnt worthy of praise



Although i laughed at this and said hell yeah...

I must say that isn't giving YOU and everybody the chance at life and the chance of happiness WORTH praising? Basically you're saying that if there were a god, you would rather everybody be dead than alive.
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Old 2006-11-06, 17:35
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i voted for no because that is what i believe. i don't think theres any way to know for sure without dying, but i lean towards there being nothing. to me, life is it...once its over..its over.
 
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Although i laughed at this and said hell yeah...

I must say that isn't giving YOU and everybody the chance at life and the chance of happiness WORTH praising? Basically you're saying that if there were a god, you would rather everybody be dead than alive.

Huh? Wait, what? I dont understand your post

Im saying that a God that has abandoned his people isnt worthy of any sort of worship. Im not gonna praise a God that allows the type of evil that transpires in this world to continue without end or respite. If Lucifer was a real entity, would I sell my soul to him? Probably, and I would probably take up arms against Heaven as well. I guess Ive just have developed an utter hatred for the concept of religion, for the many times its failed me
 
Old 2006-11-06, 18:02
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No. We live and then we die. Our brain is nothing more than thoughts. Humans are selfish for thinking we have "souls" yet the trillions of other living matter does not?

It's morbid, but to me...definitely makes the most out of actual truth. Live life while you can and enjoy it. I can't live life believing in fairy tales.
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Don't confuse the concept of religion with the idea of a creator God. That's sloppy thinking and does nobody any good.

Actually, we have experienced non-existence before. Life is a brief interstitial stopover between two incomprehensibly long periods of non-existence. So, assuming it is possible to 'experience' non-existence, we experienced for that long, long, long period during which we didn't exist before birth.

This is kinda a non-issue for me. Which I suppose means that I don't believe in an afterlife.
 
Old 2006-11-06, 18:22
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It's morbid, but to me...definitely makes the most out of actual truth. Live life while you can and enjoy it. I can't live life believing in fairy tales.
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Old 2006-11-06, 18:29
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i doubt it, seeing as how no one is really passionate about it. we are all uncertain about it, minus ones who have "faith". of coarse, they still dont know. besides, arnt christians usually the ones who get offended by religous disputes. and i hanv'nt noticed many here.
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Old 2006-11-06, 18:41
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unsure. i cant pick yes or no, because i dont know... for sure.


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Old 2006-11-06, 18:49
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I don't think there is one. I believe we rot in the ground and turn into corporate-bought fertilizer that gets sprinkled next to a few palm trees around a generic midwest strip mall. Its silly to really over debate concepts like this because you can't prove either one. I like to think of this very, very temporary life as being the only one we've got so that it encourages me to do and expierence as much as possible because this is the only time to do it. The afterlife is for the lazy.
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Old 2006-11-06, 20:01
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I don't know. My theory is that you "return" to the one human "soul" that we all share. Unless of course we go extinct, then... yikes.

Edit: No one is capable of thought/communication AFTER death as the brain is gone.

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Old 2006-11-06, 20:14
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heaven is actually a big forced labor camp, similiar to north korea


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Old 2006-11-06, 21:50
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Old 2006-11-06, 21:55
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nobody here has any better idea than anyone else, and its lame that you would pick anything other than "unsure"
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Old 2006-11-06, 22:45
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I voted unsure. I mean if there is an afterlife it would be pretty sweet. Unless you end up more fucked up than you already are now that would be uncool. This life is not short if you live it the right way and do the shit you want to do.
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Old 2006-11-06, 23:03
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Actually, 'unsure' isn't really a response. It's a given that nobody knows, and this is about what you think or belief - neither term being one that implies knowledge - so saying 'I don't know' is redundant. If the question were 'Is there an afterlife,' then any question other than 'I don't know' would be dishonest. However, that's not the question, and since you almost certainly know what you think or believe, it's as dishonest to pretend you don't.

In other words, this isn't a question about a known fact but about your attitude towards an unknown one. If your attitude is 'nobody knows, so who cares?', I'd bet you don't believe in one. But I could be wrong. But it's lame to say 'unsure.'
 
Old 2006-11-06, 23:07
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I voted yes. I'd very much like to believe heaven is real. If you're a nice guy you get to go scope it out, if there is one. Might as well be a nice guy. 50% chance of eternal bliss. If you aren't a good dude and there is a heaven and hell, you get punished for being a dick. This is all from a Christian perspective, however, the only religion I have enough knowledge of to debate about.
 
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Actually, 'unsure' isn't really a response. It's a given that nobody knows, and this is about what you think or belief - neither term being one that implies knowledge - so saying 'I don't know' is redundant. If the question were 'Is there an afterlife,' then any question other than 'I don't know' would be dishonest. However, that's not the question, and since you almost certainly know what you think or believe, it's as dishonest to pretend you don't.

In other words, this isn't a question about a known fact but about your attitude towards an unknown one. If your attitude is 'nobody knows, so who cares?', I'd bet you don't believe in one. But I could be wrong. But it's lame to say 'unsure.'


Re-read my post. How in hell is it lame to say unsure? Your post looked more like a rant on ones thoughts then a fact. Being unsure that something is or is not, is fact. This world is made up of the word "unsure". Where unsure about almost everything dealing with our daily life.
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Wasn't a response to you.

But, since you decided to take it that way, take a look at what you said. The question isn't whether or not something exists, but rather whether or not you think it exists. So the fact that you don't know whether or not it exists is an irrelevant fact. It's an answer to a different question, and, since it's the only possible answer to that question, it's a pretty uninteresting one even in that case.

Responding to a question regarding belief with an answer regarding knowledge is lame as Stephen Hawking.

Oh, and for a guy harping on other peoples' English, yours isn't particularly good. Suppose that's to be expected.
 
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Well the guy decided to put that in the poll. Therefore, it's relevant to the question being asked. If however, it wasn't on the poll then it would be irrelevant to the question asked. You seem to be posting more "rants" then anything instead of the true nature of what is being asked and what the post has as options.

However, i see your point it wasn't to me but the maker of the thread.
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It was a response to Transient's claim that it's lame for anybody to say anything but 'unsure.' My point was that nobody is 'sure,' but also very few people have no opinion whatsoever, and claiming not to is a cop out. But I don't editorialize until somebody else does; I just do it better. So, if you're wanting to think about something, blocking me out won't do you any good. If you aren't, then go ahead and block me out. I'll just hurt your brain.

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I don't think there is an afterlife. I would like it for there to be one, but my stance on the universe (although 16 and shallow) doesn't conceptualize well with supernatural horseshit (subjective).

We basically cease existing. Now everything is functioning, whoop-dee-doo, but soon it will simply stop.

Which brings me to.... How did I come into life (aside from obvious).

Gay ass open-ended questions.
 
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I don't find the idea of afterlife comforting. Every day I pressure myself to do things because I know that my life and my youth will slip away. If I was certain of an afterlife where I would remain functional, I'd probably not bother.

If it does exist though, I hope to play much Mario.
 
Old 2006-11-07, 09:44
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Debate this: How did the Earth and Sun get here?
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Old 2006-11-07, 11:09
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Protogalaxy and then protostar accretion.

As for position in the universe (if that is what you are referring to)...lets not forget the universe is expanding (and it appears as though everything is distancing itself from us, in all directions)... so it was all massive coincidence I guess (i.e. destiny, if you choose to see it that way), from the way the universe was created (Big Bang theory I believe, very probable...) so Gods' load was indeed mighty.
 
Old 2006-11-07, 15:20
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Old 2006-11-07, 15:21
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Debate this: How did the Earth and Sun get here?

go smoke a bowl, meditate on that, and get back to us
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Old 2006-11-07, 15:25
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go smoke a bowl, meditate on that, and get back to us


Might bring intresting results.
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Old 2006-11-07, 17:12
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Wow. How did they get here? Where else would they be?
 
Old 2006-11-07, 17:13
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go smoke a bowl, meditate on that, and get back to us

I quit.
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Old 2006-11-07, 19:07
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Your signature proves it.

We're pretty sure we know how the Earth and Sun got here, including the other 7 planets.
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Old 2006-11-07, 19:32
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Yeah no shit, God Created the Universe and Dinosaurs did not exist.
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they existed, they were just more volatile forms of transportation for humans than our current forms
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Old 2006-11-07, 20:22
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they existed, they were just more volatile forms of transportation for humans than our current forms
Ha, that would be pretty sweet...
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Old 2006-11-07, 21:01
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please note that was sarcasm, humans werent around while dinosaurs were
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Old 2006-11-07, 21:35
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i'm pretty sure when you die, it will be exactly the same as when you hadn't been born yet. nothingness.
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Old 2006-11-08, 00:21
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im unsure.

If you don't believe, thats' ok. Depressing, but it is your decision.

If you do, that is OK too.

i think the best way to think about it: is that all existence is balanced and has appropriate reactions. if your good---->happy, bad----->burn in hell
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the greatest lie ever told.....


is the only lie worth living.


thats my fortune cookie answer.
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Old 2006-11-08, 01:38
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I say no, I kinda hope there isn't to be honest, it'd just be too weird, dead is dead for me.
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Old 2006-11-08, 01:45
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I think there isn't, but I hope I'm proven wrong after I die.
 
Old 2006-11-08, 02:17
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I think there isn't, but I hope I'm proven wrong after I die.


I must agree.
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About requiem. Aint it the truth...
 
Old 2006-11-08, 02:36
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Do you think there is an afterlife?
Well, do you?

Very difficult question to answer....

HOWEVER what is easy to answer would be that if there is....it's nothing like we in general imagine.
Logic dictates if there is an energy or "soul"......that any memories we had of our present lives wouldnt likely follow into the life beyond but simply the energy transfer into whatever lies beyond.

So in my opinion....when we die....that's it....lights out.
 
Old 2006-11-08, 06:05
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the greatest lie ever told.....


is the only lie worth living.


thats my fortune cookie answer.

i wish i had chinese food as often as you. thats two accounts now, which is more than anyone ive ever seen on this site. and i happend to love the stuff.

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