Nevermind...it's from a movie...

I am an idiot.

Apologies

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0n9O9vgkYpQ

oh my fucking god

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Its not real, its from a movie or something. Not sure much m ore about it. But read the comments.

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ohhh thank god

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I'm reading the comments, and many people say it's fake.

Still really chilling.

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That was awesome

requiem i dub thee metaltab's official dingleberry

GET OUT OF OUR ASS HAIRS YOU PIECE OF SHIT



anyone who wasnt trying to impress someone would admit that video was disturbing as all hell. i watched the first four minutes believing it to be real

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L@/\/\3.

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I wasnt trying to impress you.Ive seen this video before and i knew it was fake(scripted)

Yeah, uh.. freaky.

The part with the kid with the backpack was funny though.

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See some one else with a far beyond warped sense of humor

But he got away! >_>

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I know it's a fake, but I've always been curious why some kid or a couple kids would start shooting up a school. Anyone know where to find articles on the psychology of this or something to that effect?

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I've actually read a tiny bit about this, and from what I know it's usually socially awkward kids that get made fun of on a regular basis. Usually they're into guns or something, and get the bright idea to shoot up the jocks, preps, etc that made fun of them for revenge. That's pretty much it

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stay the hell away from bowling for columbine, for sure. try academic journals if you can, or google for books. im sure someone has written about it as well

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...... Youtube is starting to rival myspace as a collection of foo's.

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Not just the Columbine shooting. all school shootings in general. What gets into the psycho's mind to want to kill everyone.

I can understand the whole getting revenge on people who pick on you, as pathetic as it is. But I highly doubt the Amish school shooter was provoked by jocks and various other bullies.

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Yeah that is pretty much insanity. Kids who kill other kids cause they were made fun of lots of times, though horrible, makes 1000x more sense.

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Actually, no..he was provoked and insulted by girls when he was growing up.

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Oh. didn't know that.



I shamefully have to admit I have thought once or twice about taking some weapon to school and killing everyone who made fun of me. Dunno why being made fun of was such a good reason. I used to be real touchy, boardering on emo. I would get riled up easily if someone called me a fag or just outright insulted me, but I'd be too pussy to just settle it in an honest fist fight. Call it angst, I guess.

Why I thought about bring a weapon makes me feel so stupid. Why anyone is so touchy about what people say about them... it makes me worry. All these sensitive people who get pissed off because someone said something to them, or even not to them. It makes you think there is actually a group of terrorists who kill and destroy because our beliefs and ideas of what life should be contradict what they think.

It really puts that whole "dick/pussy/asshole" monologue from "Team America" into perspective.

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That still makes absolutely no sense. There are only two sexes, and I would have to say that males insult and provoke just as bad as females do, probably more so. So would any random girl who had nothing to do with that man's past help to explain the scenario? I think not.

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i don't think bass is trying to justify anything or even explain why the guys idea was logical(i'm not saying it is either). its a deep rooted obsession the guy had. he had molested some of his female relatives when he was younger and was starting to get urges he thought were becoming uncontrollable.

i forget which famous serial killer it was..i think it was ted bundy. he always killed girls that looked like his ex girlfriend.

Well yeah, I wasn't trying to lash out at BB. I'm just saying this scenario, like other ones including the serial killer you mentioned just can't really be explained logically. It is just either insanity or gross mishandling of emotional problems. Killing random people is right above buying an emo CD in terms of not handling emotional problems properly.

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Yes, sir. Everyone has thought about murdering/doing other digusting acts to people, but there is just that HUGE step of going through with your thoughts.


If I was a little less intelligent, I'd probably be long in jail..which I'm sure a lot of other people can relate with.

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A short overview....

These people tend to be narcissistic individuals who fail to see they are to blame for the gap between their ambitious expectations and actual achievements and or failings. More pressure is placed on the individual to be a success these days, a situation exacerbated if he is a citizen of one of the world's most powerful nations as these tend to propagate the notion of ease of social advancement. They'll be left with feelings of failure and powerlessness when they realise there is no realistic chance of success. With school this could be being bullied, alienation, social exclusion, failure to obtain grades, exams etc. With work it could be being over looked for promotion, redundancy or sacking. They can't possibly lay the blame at their own feet so some other system, society or institution is to blame. Some feel persecuted and eventually they snap with all this simmering anger. They then target the place they see as the root of all their troubles; college, work, society or a race or gender of people(Marc Lepine targeted female engineering students in Montreal in 1989) Next they get tooled up and make the headlines, now the world will not forget my name and society(or those he caused this) have been punished for it's wrong doings towards me........

Lets face it if you're feeling impotent and down trodden, a gun is going to make you feel like a king, people listen and take notice of you when you wave a gun in their face.

Try the true crime section in your local book shop, there are plenty of books that touch on the subject matter. Look for titles like 'Spree Killers' 'Beserkers' I would also recommend reading books by former FBI profilers like John Douglas and Robert K Ressler and a British profiler called Paul Britton. PM me if you want any titles, though I'm sure some of my books are probably out of print now

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I've not read much more about the Amish shooting, but the choice of victim was very telling. The killing of children by older people usually indicates the wish to punish those families or society by taking away what is most precious, it's children. It usually indicates abuse or aligations that probably lead to that individual being sacked from a job working with minors or he is no longer able to get access to them. 'If I can't have them you can't' Dunblane was a classic school massacre where Thomas Hamilton had been abusing children as he ran a scout camp, allegations and complaints forced him to quit his job and he took revenge on those families.
Often if a father kills himself and takes his family(suicide by proxy) with them it's usually because of his warped pride that feels he is doing his offspring a favour by saving them from the shame of what he's done.

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FAG.


Lolzor pwn me.

The guy who molested and killed the girls at the Amish school had molested girls years ago. It never came out that he was molested, but I bet that was the case. It happens quite a bit. He had a history with the cops. If it's not a part of the growing experience by the example of parental figures it's due to it being done to the perpetator in their past. I hadn't heard of him being a victim, but other than them tearing down the school and having the big biker rally to raise money for the families I haven't heard anything else about it.

Sometimes teens have a narrow view of the world around them and they go off on weird ideas they think are reality. Some revert to a selfish preschool idea although from what I studied that's more the case with girls than guys. I don't think any of the girls on metaltabs are like that though.

The parents of one of the murdered boys said they'd had trouble with one of the shooters in the past and had reported it to the parents and the cops and nothing was done.

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I didnt think they reported he molested any of the amish girls... I thought it was reported that they found sex lube in his pocket but said nothing happened after that.

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I'd heard that he did abuse a few of the girls behind a blackboard. That may have been wrong. They also said in the beginning that there were 6 girls dead and that wasn't the case either.

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hahaha, everyone ran around the fucking tables. That's good shit. Tranny fell for it

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But they hadn't ruled out a sexual motive or intention to molest. Maybe tieing them up, threatening them, seeing them frightened and then shooting them was gratification enough?

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I think the guy thought about it all pretty coherently, but when he was actually doing everything he kind of tripped way over the edge and got careless. Not that the whole incident wasn't, but his logic for it all went out the window.

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that beeping, and the lady talking, was the most annoying thing ive ever heard on any video. FUUUUUUCKK!!!!!

Ted Bundy indeed. There's an interesting story behind that whole thing. He was immature and deeply in love with his fiance, and she broke things off with him because he was a kid in a man's body and she thought even with his looks and intelligence he would never go anywhere in life at his maturity level. She broke his heart, and that's when he started killing girls- pretty, brunette girls who looked like his old girlfriend. He met another girl, but kept killing on the side.

Years later, he bumped into his ex and she saw a new Ted, a more mature Ted. She agreed to date him again. She was all into him when he got his big revenge by rejecting her the same way she had rejected him. Unfortunately, he couldn't shake his lust for rape, sodomy, and murder.

Sometimes people, always women, joke around and say I remind them of Ted Bundy. I have to admit that bothers me a little bit, because I've never done anything terrible to anyone and never would.

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Who knows dude, people can crack anytime.

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in hindsight it looks a little dumb, but i thought of it like this. in that situation i would stick with the pack as much as i could. i wouldnt want to be the sore thumb running straight while everyone else runs to the left

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Ouch. They must not know Teddy very well..or I don't know you very well (which I don't). Shit.

Its a whole shitmess of psychosocial factors from which there are heaps of explanations for the causes from the numerous models.

Did the real video even have audio?

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not that ive seen.

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wasn't Bundy the dude who made furniture out of human skin? or maybe i'm confusing him with another killer.

That sounds more along the lines of Albert Fish, although he never made furniture out of skin (that would be, uh, difficult), he'd made covers, lampshades, curtains, etc. Bundy could have done that, I'm not sure. Several people are known for doing it.

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More like Edward Gein. He had everything out of bodies. A belt out of nipples clothes out of skin (mostly females because he was a transvestite. Rember the movies Psycho? Scilence Of The Lambs? Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Well that was based on him). Chairs from bones. Ect ect. However he used dead bodies.
I did a project on him in school. I hate when people says "Oh he massacred 100 people with a chainsaw and ate them." That's tottal bullshit. He killed two people.


I don't think Bundy did that though.

You know what I always found odd about Bundy? The fact that he was in on trail for murder and stuff yet he had a huge female fan bases. Like girls would be lined up outsided for him waiting for is autograph and wanting to take pictures with him. I was like "Um...ok." I may be confusing him with another killer though.

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wow, albert fish was one disgusting guy

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The acting in that sucks... I would have been sceptical if I didn't know it was fake before i watched.

You honestly think so? I watched it before knowing it was a fake.. and i'd say it was pretty realistic. Only the very end did it seem.. a lil.. hmm weird.

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No, it was Bundy alright. I could sort of rationalize it by saying that Bundy was a good lucking, charismatic, charming guy, and so maybe fickle women woulc be attracted to him anyway. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that another serial killer, Night Stalker Ramirez, was an ugly, filthy, abrasive, piece of shit, and he also had a huge female fan base. I mean, women sent these guys proposal letters to their cells. There might be a couple more guys who had the ladies on their jocks, but those are the only two I can think of. Fucking crazy.

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Yeah I think so. The way those people running around is ttally stupid and unconvincing. I actually saw this and was wondering if it was a parody, I think it's very amatuer looking.

Richard Ramirez is a fag. He got his ass beat by my gardener.

My dating life is non-existant, so i must be on a killing rampage and see if bitches wanna get down on my sack.

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Hybristophiles aren't uncommon. Virtually every serial killer has had tons of women write them.

But yeah. Skin furniture sounds like Gein, who apparently was intrigued by the SS members who'd make lamps out of skin and so on. He didn't literally have skin everything, but he had skullcap bowls and skin lamp shades and so on.

Get this, I have a human body in my bedroom right now...


ITS USING THE COMPUTER OH GOD GET AWAY!....

Albert Fish attacked young girls killing several. The most famous victim being 12 year old Grace Budd who he took portions of her flesh and cooked them with carrots and onions. When he was arrested he was found to have 29 needles inserted into his groin and genitals.

Ed Gein was a mummy’s boy who was obsessed with the female form most notably the genitals. After his overbearing mother died he started grave robbing to get close to women’s bodies. He took parts home to examine to satisfy his curiosity (in his house was found a shoe box containing 7 or 8 vaginas) He made his trophies into ornaments even fashioning a wallet out of a woman's breasts. He also skinned women and made a 'lady flesh' suit he could wear. When grave robbing wasn't enough he then went on to killing and that's where he came un-stuck.

Many killers keep trophies from their slayings, these range from a lock of hair, clothing , jewelry to a body part or complete cadaver. They use these trophies to relive the attack and killing and replay the scene over and over gaining sexual gratifacation and fueling further fantacies and driving the urge to kill again. Like any addiction they are seeking the buzz and kick of the first kill/fix. The second or third kill often doesn't illicit the same high so they alter the MO or signature to heighten the pleasure. They may introduce torture and keep the victim alive longer. They often take more risks as they become more confident or need more of a thrill or get cocky due to the fact they haven't been caught yet. This often leads to them making a mistake such as being spotted during an abduction or allowing a victim to escape.
Killers get different things from killing, some of them enjoy the thrill and abduction or assualt and kill just to get rid of a witness after the attack. Some enjoy torture and gain great pleasure from keeping a victim alive and watching their anguish. Others enjoy killing and relish in the power of having control over someones existance, whilst some just kill so they can have a body to play with, fuck, eat or dismember. Some kill because of a pecieved wrong or are on a mission from god. Mind you it pretty much boils down to sex!

Prostitutes are the most common victims because they are easy targets, they get into peoples cars willingly.

Killers fall into 2 catagories. Organised and Disorganised
Organised killers plan for a long time, they play out the scenario over and over perfecting every tiny detail. They go prepared with a 'tool kit' such as gloves, knife, rope etc and they select their victim carefully often watching for weeks before stricking. They usually have a special place to take the victim so they will not be desturbed.
Disorganised killers live for the moment, they are opportunists and will seize a victim ad hoc. Often they have no plan and no tool kit, often restraining a victim or stangling them with a ligature made from the victim's own clothing.
They often leave a lot of clues behind.

Ted Bundy was well on to way to becoming a serial killer long before he was dumped by Stephanie Brookes. He was a petty thief, a scopophiliac, a panty stealer and had probably attacked young girls already. Being dumped was the trigger that pushed him over the edge because not being good enough for her dented his ego big time. He attacked girls of a similar appearance probably for several reasons. 1) To take revenge on Stephanie 2) Stephanie was from an upper class wealthy family a lofty height he couldn't possibly attain, despite having a high IQ he was a terrible student and he was also deeply embarrassed about his upbringing being illegitimate etc. The look Stephanie had and the other girls could indicate this financial/social standing 3) Maybe he just had a thing for girls that looked like that, some people prefer blondes others brunettes! (Though most don't slaughter them!!)

Ted also worked at a rape crisis call centre something that would have fuelled his perverse notions and given him something to get his jollies off to. He was also a necrophiliac.

These guys get a lot of female attention or groupies for a variety of reasons. Some women take pity or feel sorry for them. It is an innate urge for women to mother and they think that because he didn't get enough hugs as a child he turned bad. Women also think they can change men. It's like the old gag 'Women spend the their whole married life trying to change their husband and then complain that he's not the man they married'
The other side is that it's toying with danger, this guy in prison is a rough diamond, an element of danger and excitement without any risk. The guy's locked up he can't just pop round so the woman can flirt with peril without actually endangering herself.
It could also be that these women are attention seeking nutters!!

Ted Bundy got lots of admirers because he was visually attractive, he appeared confident and the sophisticated all American boy, he even represented himself in court in Florida prompting the judge to comment that had things been different he would have liked him to have been a lawyer in his court! (Maybe the judge was gay?) Ted represented himself because he was a glib, sociopathic ego maniac who wanted to show off, it was the Ted Bundy show and he was going top give a performance of a life time with his captive audience!
Even before he was executed he told police he would give them more info on yet un-discovered bodies and what he did with the victims. It was all just a game to stroke his ego and feel powerful as it would hold up his execution all because he had spoken. As it turns out the authorities called his bluff and he got jolted by good old sparkie!

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You know your motherfucking sicko's.

its fascinating

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All brutal death metal vocalists have to go through a class that teaches stuff like that to get in the band they want. They have to know their death and gore 3 times better than Dahmers Fridge.

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I think Fridge works in a mental hospital, or in a field which requires him to know about killers and such-like.

Nah, it's just an interest and topic I use to chat up girls ..........which lead me to do the job I do in a secure unit. I work with some severe clients who have done some pretty nasty things......though non as bad as Bundy I hasten to add!

I should point out that I work with the mentally ill. A lot of serial killers aren't mentally ill. Being a sociopath is very different to being psychotic.

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hah nevermind...i just posted to something on another page.

just had read the last post on page 2.. i think a few people made shit out of their victims. but i'm failing to recall anyone besides gein.

If I'm not mistake, I believe the video clip at the beginning of this thread is from a film called "Zero Day", which is not-so-loosely based on the Columbine incident:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365960/

Not a bad flick.