ok, i went for a walk a few hours ago. i got about 25 bagels at this place<i like bagels>way the fuck across town in the wealthy eastside

i had a plastic to-go bag to carry them in. and its about an hour walk home. i reach downtown and im in a 7-11. the man in front of me in line is cussing out the register dude about something, he leaves all pissed off over something that must of happened that i missed. some people remark closeby on what an asshole he is. when i leave the store im following behind this dude and he is literally cursing passerbyers out after asking them for a smoke.

the dude was about a few inches shorter than me but much more filled out,heavier and very intimidating. he had the whole "thug" persona going. i just know that im gonna get shit, he's literally starting shit with everyone he's passed.

guy slows down after trying to get a cigarette off this one dude so now of course we are walking side by side.

<edit:this is a condensed version, i cant recall everything said, i was very scared of this guy, he said alot worse shit than i can,at this time recall>

dude:"yo,gimme a smoke"

me:"you want shorts on this one"<handing him the one im smoking>

dude:"what the fuck is this shit, i want a whole one"

me:"this is all i have,dude, here"<he takes it>

dude:"you motherfucka, give me a whole one too"

me:"man, its all i got,im just trying to help"<me being kinda scared after the guy nudges me with his forearm after i hand him the smoke>

dude:"trying to help huh?, thanks for the fucking help asshole"

at this point i take a corner and walk very fast away from this psycho.

dude:hey, asshole.......hey........motherfucker..............
me: "what?" <im about 20 feet away>
dude:"come'here fucking pussy, gimme another cigarette"

as i walk he repeats the same shit in variation, its these last word that really get me.

dude:dont worry i aint gonna rob you.......you aint got shit good enough to be robbed, fucking pussy"<something to this effect, i cant recall the exact wording>

this was the straw that broke the camels back. i made the decision then and there. that im gonna fight this fuckhead, bully asshole and im most likely gonna lose but im gonna fucking stick up for myself for once.

this guy got a good 20-30 pounds on me and he is no doubt an ex-con,a mean bruiser. ive dealt with alot of heckling before, ive been hit with bottles thrown out of cars,been called every name in the book, had groups of bullys try to bait me into a fight 5 on 1. ive simply had enough. this guy wants to fucking rumble. he wants violence, i will give it to him win or fucking lose

at this time we excanged a few words<already in fight mode cant really recall what was said,basically both of us swearing at each other> as i close the distance, i feel the bag of bagel in my hand so i grab one out and scream "how about some food asshole,you seem to be in need, i have some nice bagels for you!!!" i begin running at him

suprisingly the dude tucks tail and begins to run from me. i shit you not, i launch my first bagel and hit him in the ass or leg, it was a poor throw due to my anger. ive never had a good throw for some reason, i always sucked at throwing shit.

i begin to chase this man, finally he turns to face me. i throw the entire bag of bagels at his face, he covers very well, the bag sails over his head and explodes on the sidewalk. FUCKING BAMMMM!!! i follow up with a sweeeet left hook<edit:im a southpaw> to this guys face. the man staggers, he shoves me back in a very weak manner, puts his hands out and screams "what the fuck man,dont fucking do that, i was only kidding!!!" i realize at this time that the guy is batshit crazy, the look of fear in his eyes,his whole tough guy act crumbles into pleadings for me to stop. this guy must of came out of the loony bin or something. its was too fucking pathetic

me: "fuck you"

i leave the fucker and my bagels. i walk away. this guy waits till im 30 feet away to start talking shit again. my job is done here.

did i do the right thing? i totally lost self-control, i allowed myself to be taunted into a blind rage. i felt sorta bad afterwords. i seriously thought i was gonna get mauled, fucking curbed and annihilated. it was a defining moment. its like fighting the high school bully. im confused tho.

should i of blown the shit off?, this guy will get something worse than a punch in the head if keeps it up. im not a violent man, im simply not in the kind of shape for fighting, i havent hit anyone in years. my last couple of fights was me blind drunk getting my ass kicked when i lived in virginia.<this led me to sobriety, last ass kicking i recieved i was beaten with the end of a glass bottle, i got fucking wrecked that night>

sorry for the rant. its late and i havent talked about this with any good friends yet. i seriously dont know if what i did was the right. im still riding a massive adrenaline rush

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While losing your self control is never actually a good thing, people like that need to be taught a lesson sometimes. Maybe he will quit messing with people after someone actually did something about his behaviour. You were getting harassed and had a right to defend yourself when you responded calmly the first time. My two cents at least.

By the way, you're my effin' hero. Threw your freaking bagel bag at him and then a swift punch in the face? Epic. Put him in his place.

Edit: Too bad the bagels got wasted though, I like bagels too.

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Nah man, I think you did the right thing. Faggy morals aside, the asshole had it coming to him.

You were a fucking nice guy and whatnot, tried to walk away, but he kept going. So fuck him.If it was me in that situation I would have been too pussy to hit him and I would have just walked away and hated myself for it.

Haha, I know the whole lose control and be unco thing. Sucks huh.

Hahahahaha, that's awesome. I hate when people talk shit and can't do anything about it. You did the right thing by making that shithead feel like an idiot.

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thing is i could of simply walked away, the guy was all "hot tounge cold shoulder"

i wasnt cornered and i attacked him first<beyond the shove that i ignored earlier>


if a cop was around, thats a night in jail. i like to think i have total control of my emotions and actions, this totally disproves all of that.

edit: i cannot stress enough that i thought it my time to get a solid asswhoopin.

id never think he would wuss out the way he did. i was in a kamazakee jet nosediving into an aircraft carrier when i charged him. i was charging into my own doom

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Everyone just simply snaps once in a while. It's normal. At least it was on someone that deserved it, because you could have taken you anger out on someone else that didn't.

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ive walked away countless times, ive been doing this<avoiding fights> most of my adult life. its was all passive-aggressive shit......i fought every asshole who taunted me with impunity in the form of this one dude, in this one occasion.

this is the first fight ive been in, in like 5 years. ive only broke shit up at shows here in providence

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Fuck it. He doesn't know your name, and he can't press charges. Even if he tried, the dude's obviously a nutjob and no one would ever believe him.

I understand how you feel, as I've backed down from plenty of fights myself. People like that are stupid. They will come up to you and start to talk a lot of shit, leaving themselves wide open for an ass whooping.

It's hard to say what I would have done in that situation, because I wasn't there. I've had similar experiences where I've backed down and I'm pretty happy that I did, because I have no injuries from it and I've never been to jail. I probably wouldn't charge the guy, though.

If the dude is bigger than you and you aren't sure if you can take him, you have to use your head. You walk up to him, appoligize for not having a cigarette, and hand him your bagels. He's holding the bagels, so he's wide open. That's when you start kicking his ass. You also want to remember to fight dirty. There's no such thing as a fair street fight.

Sure, it would have been a lot easier to just continue walking, but sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. You lost control of yourself for a short time, but than you gained it right back after you punched the guy and he buckled. A lot of people would have just continued pounding the shit out of him. However, like you said, you could've been thrown in jail for it, so I'd recommend picking your fights a little better.

Might even be a good idea to get a punching bag, and just pound the shit out of it every once in a while when you get pissed. It'll make you feel better, calm you down, keep you from getting in fights over stupid shit, and help you get in better shape, in case you really have to fight someone.

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Very entertaining read, i was sucked in like reading a novel.
You shouldnt worry about it, nothing bad happened, just some confusion.
I walk away from everything 999999 times kthnx.

yeah, i hear you.

i should of probably saved it for the guy who leaves me no choice but to defend myself.

if that was the situation and everything played out the same way i would of walked away satisfied that i had to do what was necessary.

as far as training, man im in the worst possible shape. i used to be really fit when i worked construction and rode a bmx regularly.

this summer ive been on my ass, aside from the occasional odd job moving peoples stuff, i dont excersize at all.

maybe this will get me into an excersize plan. my roomate has a bag, it just fell down one day and noone put it back up. i think ill put that shit up tommorrow.

i sorta fucked up my hand too, it was a solid, stiff punch that even suprised me. im glad it didnt get any worse tho. giving them is one thing,recieving them is another. i really dont think i could of taken the dude if he threw down. the whole thing was kinda odd

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He deserved it and I would of probably hit him long before you did.Don't worry about it.

I have spent the night in jail for fighting and only had to go to court once. Only a $200 fine, but luckly I didn't get arrested for assult, he didn't press charges and neither did I.

I'm a total pacifist, but that my friend was comepletely and utterly awesome. It's nothing I would do and if I was with you I'd try to talk you out of it, but considering it just happened and it was sooooo awesome, man, thats just like the punkest and coolest fucking thing that ever happened, really great story too.

You put him to the bagle? You threwsegr [pause for laughing] them at him? Holy high heavens, that's an enormous amount of pure awesomeness.
You gave him a mouthful for acting like a twerp, and quit when he backed down. And threw a bag of bagels at him. I respect you.

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shame you had to leave the bagels... nonetheless

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I'd have flattened that cunt, not that i'm a particularly violent person but I don't tolerate that kind of shit, I say good on you!

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the loss of bagels was not a minor thing. i could of easily jabbed and missed to set up that hook. i could of set the bag down and retrived those puppies later

i had a whole fucking variety in there too. i did however, have a few more in my sachel. i went home with like 6 bagel down from around 30. lost all the jalpeno and cheese flavored ones too.

if my bmx was operational....none of this dumb shit would happen.

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I must admit i got REALLY excited to read the last half of that story. I must say the moment you said broke the camels back, i seriously started getting adrinaline. i was like FUCK YES. Dude thats awesome shit. I mean.. sure losing yourself blah blah, whatever. But i know too many people like that. Feels like the one thing i've wanted to do for so long. I have a feeling once i FINALLY do, somebody won't be so lucky like the person you hit.

I figure my times coming, i've never really been in a no shit fight as i've also been the one to walk away when there are times that that person would have really gotten it. One time i was walking home with my girlfriend and this fucking punk as kid came up and started just talking mad random shit about my hair (mohawk at the time). Came up start feelin up on it. Oh man.. i should have lost it. Believe it or not my girlfriend was pissed because i iddn't do anything. Isn't that usually the opposite of what happens? hah. She appologized for that like 4 years later.

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Awsome job dude. It was a very exciting story. Might make a good movie.

I had an encounter like that once. But for me I really don't like to fight because you just never know who has a gun these days.

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Eh, i dont' think tha tshould prevent somebody for sticking up for whats right.

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Good stuff!

The guy that's yelling and screaming, blowing off steam, acting like a cunt, balling people for cigarettes, you don't need to be scared of that guy. He's just some limp dick getting by on the fact that normal well-socialised people won't call him on his bullshit. Avoid rather than pelt with bread treats in future.

(But if anything ever gets really bad, always remember that you can shove your thumbs in his eyesockets.)

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You did the right thing man. That was the metalest thing I have heard in a while, and I watch dethklok on a regular basis. I know its a good thing to try to be a pacifist, but I think it is completely unnatural to be one in certain situations, like the one you were in. But yeah, the pussies who act like hard-asses are the ones that deserve to get beaten, not the ones who actually act like pussies. However I must say, if that guy was as tough as you said he looked.... maybe it wouldnt have been such a good idea. But whatever, what happened happened. Low-tech > some hobo who couldn't handle the metal.

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can't really much that hasn't been said...but good shit! no reason to feel bad i'd say. that guy was an asshole that needed a bagel in the ass with a nice punch in the face too boot. the only thing that you could've done differently to make it all the more funny is give a short charge to see him flinch after you walked away from hitting him when he started talking shit again!

Good job, many of these street fucks deserve some civil humiliation.

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best post in weeks! really interesting. i think you did the right thing?

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I love you, man. Haha.

Seriously, though, yeah it is not a good thing to lose control, but that dude had it coming being an asshole. If anything, he was the one out of control, not keeping his mouth shut. Stupid thug needed to be taken down a peg or two. Someone was bound to kick his ass. Be thankful, in a way, that you got to be that person.

If I were in your shoes, I probably would have been pummeled. I've never gotten in a fight in my life. Nothing. Never had the courage to. I've had plenty of reasons, but I just figured it wouldn't solve anything. I've learned that some fighting can solve stuff, like in this case. He wouldn't quit bugging you and he was boardering on harassment. Talking won't work since he's got a mind narrower than his tight ass. Force is necessary.

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thanks for the replies.

today i now realize my hand is fucked up.

the thing about pacifism, the way i see avoiding fights, is that there are many people in this world who dig fighting<the thrillseeker street kind>. this kind of human being will always eventually seek out another who is willing. assholes find other assholes, the violence is usually mutual. its like a self-regulatory food-chain. those on top will eventually be brought down by the police or a group of foes, everyone has thier day.

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How's your hand fucked up?

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yo gj man he had it coming to him, i certainly wouldnt of been brave enough to do that...btw dont you have some training in some fighting style? i always assumed you did from some of your posts

i didnt ball my fist tight enough i guess, being in a rage i wasnt focused at all. i caught him in the temple, which was rough on my first two knuckles and fingers.

when i woke up today i couldnt close my hand for a while.

this goes to show the utter lack of real fighting experience i have.

it really is one thing to study a martial art, and entirely another to apply those techniques in a real situation, granted most of my previous martial arts backround was aikido/judo ie grappling/throwing/arm and wrist locks<something i dont want to get into on the street> and ineffective kempo karate when i was younger<bad habits and unrealistic techniques>.

i know a cagefighter who showed some basic striking and such, but really, one has train and spar regularly to get everything intuitively.

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I think the only way people like that are going to learn how to not behave like imbeciles is if you do throw bagles at them and then punch them. Someone at some point has to lay down their law.

Bagels; the next weapon in less than lethel law enforcement.

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I would of picked the bagels back up

Bagels and street trash probably don't mix very well. Another point is he was obviously in the heat of the moment, bagels were probably not his number one priority.

In speaking of street trash, at least the homeless will feed.

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FUck the homelesss i would ov ate my bagels

Do you type with your face?

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No, no, no way.

Your posts at the end of your official thread were the fucking bomb

i just now saw this. good for you! assholes like that, who spend their time intimidating people to nice or small to fight back, need to be put in their place. hopefully next time he starts to mouth off he'll remember you. i salute you sir!!

You shoulda gone goregrind on his ass.

Nice job, though. But I would never bum a cig to a stranger, too sketchy.

Bahahah!!! Oh, the imagery.

I can't tell you if the did the right thing, but you did what I would have done. The fact of the matter is that I don't smoke, I'm probably built a lot more powerfully than you, and thusly this whole situation would have been avoided. However, that doesn't spare me from very similar situations.

Today at work (I work at a convenience store) a dude comes in looking for cigars. Now, since I don't smoke and I'm new there, I didn't know what he wanted right away. It also didn't help that he asked for something different the first time. It took me a little while to find what he was looking for, probably a good half minute, the whole while he's berating me, telling me "it's right in front of you, learn how to read" and generally getting on my case. I live in a crime ridden city and I work in the very worst neighborhood that city has to offer, but of all the drug dealers and thugs who come in (many of whom I went to school with), none ever give me trouble because there's no point. They're generally good kids (mostly white gangstas, oddly enough) who fell into into a bad way because they never had a shot from birth. This dude, however, is clearly an old school thug, a tall black guy in his 30's. Back to the meat of the story.

After hearing enough of his shit, I say, "it's a fucking bag of cigars, is it really worth getting your panties up in a bunch?" He immediately tells me to shut the fuck up because he'll slap the taste out of my mouth. My response is something like "You're gonna slap me? How are you going to pull that off? You can't slap me from the other side of the counter. Are you going to jump the counter? You gonna try to walk up here? Either way you'll get your shit ruined." before telling him to leave my store.

Of course, he doesn't slap me. My comments to him are in reference to the fact that the people behind the counter are a good 4 inches higher than anyone on the floor. The only way for him to get at me is to either jump the counter or walk up to the back. If he jumps the counter, I would easily be able to react before he can get over the counter to where I am. If he tries coming through the side, as the people who work there do, I have a 4 inch leverage advantage with which I could easily kick or punch him in the temple and knock him silly before he realizes what happened.

Realizing I'm in a much better position to fight him than he is to fight me, he challenges me to a fight after work. He asks me what time I get off and I told him "3 o'clock, bitch." I realized in hindsight I would have sounded less dorky if I had just said 3 instead of 3 o'clock. He also threatened one of the customers for no apparent reason just "I'm gonna get you, too". I should also point out my store manager was only 15 feet away in the office and had to have heard most of this.

Now, I don't really consider myself a badass, but I'm a pretty big guy (5'10", ~220lbs.) and I work out 5 days a week. Despite this fact, I was a little intimidated the whole time, but I couldn't allow myself to back down, because the second you back down, you become the bitch. If you are at least willing to risk taking a beating like a man, you put yourself in a much better position to not be fucked around with in the future. I also had legitimate concerns that when I got off work, he would be waiting for me with any number of his crack dealing buddies or perhaps his (standard around here) .44 caliber semi-automatic weapon.

That really did have me worried for a while. Eventually I realized it's no big deal- if his friends are there or if he has a firearm, you can just go back in the store and have them call the police and leave with your life intact. If he's there by himself, you can fuck him up like the bitch he is. Chances are he won't be there at all.

In case you're wondering, he didn't show up. I also waited a few extra minutes, to add an exclamation point to that fact.

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To be honest most of these want to be tough people, almost always are all talk, and just like you said when you actually step up unafraid, boy do they back down. I've seen it time and time again. Especially back in high school, if a white kid actually stood up for himself, the other kid would fold like a stack of cards.

Its almost animalish if you think about it. Giving off the apperance of "top dog." Somebody threatens your "top dog" status you gotta step up to the plate. Which isn't easy, as most of us would rather not deal with the hassle and are civilized enough that these situations catch us off guard, and fail to react with anything but confusion.

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this is something ive noticed from working endless amounts of retail and food service jobs. i once worked at a "wings to go"<you may be familiar with these joints>on Thayer street in the eastside of providence<its the main strip near brown and RISD>and that place pretty much caters to every hard ass in the area<along with "Spikes junkyard dogs", mecca for the meatheads>. alot of bikers and clubbers go there on the weekends so i served hells angels and guys who look like 50 cent on a regular basis.

the real dudes, the guys who walk in with prison tats,obvious gang members,dudes with massive battle scars and who are flying thier colors are usually, if unprovoked<usually, if they arent in a poisonous mood or wasted>, very nice. must nicer than the average college kid or wealthy parents thereof. this is not to mention the wannbe mid life crisis bike dudes and the fake Gs/sucker MCs crowd of clubbing dudes. this is usually the case ive experienced. but yeah, sometimes you get the aggro-retarded "true" psycho, the real gang member, the real biker thug.

the reason why its usually the fake dudes is that they dont realize there is nothing to gain. a guy with real street cred, thier reputation for intimidating a 150 pound dude<me> who pretty much is the least threatening, lowest on the asshole food chain kind of guy doesnt stand to increase among thier peers and equals. im telling you the scariest human beings walked thru there and showed alot of class,meanwhile...the guys who are obviously wannabes are the real dicks who pretty much can only pick on some guy who serves food with impunity.

i left that job after being threatened with violence from some asshole who obviously couldnt hang with the real bruisers. ive dealt with alot of shit there,treated like a slave for these chumps. after awhile i couldnt take it. i wasnt exactly being paid well while dealing with shit either. i did stand face to face with the dumb fuck and allowed myself open for him to do whatever, like if he was gonna walk the talk, behind the "i will fuck you up,kid" tirades over a.......little container of blue cheese sauce i forgot to give him that sparked this whole thing.

what may suck for you is the dude may return with more of the same BS,fucking with you type shit cos he knows where you'll be. thats the shit i cant stand and had dealt with at this job. at that job we had regular assholes every weekend come in who intentinally heckle and fuck up the orders<add on shit late,forget what they ordered,etc.>then bitch, these guys were always wasted,beligerent and darkly hinted at violence. their pissing contest with the management and staff predated my employment there. they never jumped me and my co-workers or anything but it still sucks.

so hopefully you seen the last of that guy, but he may return for pissing contest number 2. but you did test his talk so its either take this on the serious level over a pack of cigars or forget about it. my co workers and i never tested those jerks "resolve" so we were thier little indentured slaves, those guys were, way out of my fistfighting league anyway.

my hand is still fucked up.

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I live in Hicksville at the moment and everyone here is a hardcore, I used to be a hardcore aswell. But then I realised that being hardcore doesn't make my life any easier because fucken it just causes me more fights and gains me more enemies. So these days in Hicksville pretty much every party I go to or every time I walk the street at night there is someone that will start on me and shit cos its a small place where everyone knows everyone and reputation spreads town wide, so you know. Anyway I totally ignore these guys and shit now because I don't care what they have to say about me or to me, I don't care about being the 'bitch' as Rezendes put it by backing down from a fight, or keeping out of any position to get into a fight. Fighting is gonna get me hurt, get me charged, and put my friends and myself in a situation where we have enemies looking to fight us every weekend. Of course I wouldn't stand there and take a beating, if it's unescapable then I'm gonna go it, but not otherwise. I'm perfectly sane and sound in my mind that whatever the fuck they are saying to or about me is bullshit. Someone calls me a fag, big deal, what the fuck could I possibly care 2 shits about what some fuck head drugged up or drunk half wit school drop out wanker dick head has to fucken say about me anyway? Nothing, cos I don't care a fuck about what an arsehole like that has to say to or about me.

But anyway, talking about fights, I was at school, and these cunts were blocking the stairs and I needed to get to class. So did all the kids that were just standing there waiting for these bullies to move. I just singled out the smallest dude, pushed him out the way and walked off. He ran up and pushed me in the back like really hard, so I turned around and grabbed him by the throat and punched him in the head three times and then I saw the teacher coming so I got him in some sort of grapple that he couldn't hurt me and waited for the teacher to come up to us. I think the teacher realised I controlled myself because I didn't get in any trouble. Anyway that's nowhere near as hardcore as this but since everyone else is sharing I may aswell have. But there is like something wrong with my brain in that situation man, like, the David and Goliath situation. Theres something in my head that freaks out when that happens, such as Bully picking on Nerd, Authority picking on kid or some shit, and there have been a few times where I am doing shit before I can think about what I'm doing and it's just happening and I dont know why, especially like when the things totally have nothing to do with me, or I might not even know the people, but when someone takes advantage of there position like thinking they are tougher than someone else or whatever, I used to just snap. But these days I control that cos as I said I'm like a total pacifist pussy bitch asshole whatever.

i think the underlaying point is picking and choosing your own battles. in my case i totally threw the notion out the window and did something careless and stupid but in a way understandable. in chris's case he is at work overseeing a cash register and the floor of a convenience store.......his situation was unaviodable. someone threatening you at the job should not be tolerated. at the fried chicken joint i worked at it was a matter of course to deal with abuse, that joint soon went belly up anyway.

sure, he could of went the "well, ill call the cops" route, but that invites more shit upon you. when you stand firm against someones BS the ball in thier court. some people arent gonna be deterred by a phonecall to the cops.

i may be liberal wuss but my views on self defense is way the fuck over into the survivalist,gun nut turf. the right to bear arms and all that stuff, IM ALL FOR IT. i dont own a gun or roll with any weapons<sometimes drumsticks which can be used as such, i guess>but i think everyone has a right to. granted i could of been stabbed or shot dead under holding this principle in that situation withe the dude, but the crazy dude may of just well as not started shit cause i could of had some nunchuks or a midevil sword on me.

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Exactly who knows whos caring fucking broadswords now adays... Gotta be careful, you just never know....

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Fact...

Most loudmouths are pussies plain and simple.

The guy that says little.....is the guy you better watch out for.

hahahah how about some food for ya. thats the best line ever before kicking someones ass!!!

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great story, Low-Tech. i think you reacted just fine. probably even better than i would have because you ignored the shuv he gave you when you handed him the cig. not to mention the attitude he had, as described by you.
haha, you make the bagels sound so powerful:P.

i cant believe this guy started talking shit again, after all that.

Its good that you exploded. if you hadnt punched him, who knows how long he would have bugged you, considering he still bitched, from afar, after the fact.

I would have done the same, including the bad throw, cause i cant throw good while angry either

i hardly ever fight as well. but a couple of years ago this guy in my class threw a paper ball at me. i threw it back at him, of coarse. ...we were never friends. then he gets pencil shavings and dumps them on my shoulder, just as the bell rings. so i chased him out of the class and down the hall for about 20 ft. as soon as i was close enough i swang and punched him on the side of his head. i guess it really caught him off guard cause he fell and slid on the floor. i stopped there and watched him. he just looked at me, got up, and ran off. i figured hed report me, but he didnt. i could never regret something like this. to me, its simply putting people in their place. and if the situation calls for it, i do so.

I always hate the fact that when somebody does that. .and you DON"T do something like that you think about it just about forever. I can clearly recall almost every incidnent like that i the last couple of years that i WISHED i had done something and i didn't. Kind of eats you up inside.

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^ Yep, in total agreement.

Just read your story on the first post...


HELL YEA you did the right thing. Exactly what i would have done. Ignore the shit for the first bit, but if he keeps it up, dont matter who the guy is, he will end up with a broken nose. People like that have to learn a lesson and a broken nose is the way to go. You got the blood, pain, the fact that he will probably have to wear one of those stupid looking nose casts for a week or so. Then if you hit him hard enough you give him the black eyes (hopefully both of them). Wind up and crack him dead-on in the face. Awesome, im glad you went after him.

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Alot of people are say omg hell yeah thats exactly what i would have done, you guys all must be heaps hardcore, because that was a very scarey situation, just think about it for more than 2 seconds, some bigger, uglier, thuggier guy that could be packing, bugging you for a smoke, yelling, screaming, acting like a cunt, I bet there aren't as many people that would do it in the real situation.

Yep. Exactly what goes back to my post. I've said it a million times.. man i should have done something.. blah blah blah. But.. hey, we aren't in those situations every day.

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Most of these people wouldn't have done something, as Infinity said. Nothing easier than telling people what you would have done in a situation you weren't in over the internet.

As for whether or not you did the right thing: you did what you did. If you felt the way you described having felt at the time, you'd probably feel like hammered dogshit now if you hadn't done anything. So, sure, you did the right thing as far as that particular situation demanded. Getting into a dumb fight is what it is; don't worry too much about it.

i have one of the loudest fuckin mouths, especially while drunk. belligerent doesn't even begin to describe it..........

however, i am a pacifist. strange, BIA, i think there is some truth to your statement. higher correlation with loudmouths and, as you so delicatley put it, "pussies."

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Both of you guys are wrong, its the size of the testicles.

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Yeah see i KNOW thats not true... ha My friends back at home, well they are the loudest of hte bunch, and i would never fight any of them, because they are literally insane. I've known of like 3 of them to fight an entire house of people. This one kid punched this other guy so hard he put him in a coma. This other guy used to punch through car windows for the hell of it.

GRANTED. these guys aren't assholes and never faught anybody who didnt' have it coming (sorta). And they didnt' go around picking fights. But they are always the loud ones at the parties

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In (approximately) the words of one of our true national treasures: 'While you're busy watching out for the quiet ones, a noisy one will FUCKING KILL YOU!'

it says "most" of the people with loud mouths..........

but hell, i know a few people with real loud mouths that must have 2 y chromosomes, i fuckin swear. these guys are bosnians and they are fuckin violent. one of them just got assult charge that could of just as easily been murder. he seriously fucked up this one guy.

not to mention, the weapons they posses....

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it really matters what you all mean by loud. it doesnt always translate with the insecure alpha male complex types.

even folks who bottle up all the anger and shit, the passive aggressive types arent necessarilly dangerous. im more of a punch-the wall type, i never take shit out on people in terms of threats,violence. this case was very rare for me and i stopped when the guy asked me to. that goth dude in canada is a good example of passive/aggressive insecurity in the extreme. he had the "lonewolf" complex of extreme,calculating,planned out violence out of the blue.


its just ways in how one is psychotic or at least anti-social. but the root of those extremes are not so easily defined by personality types. being a sociopath or a sadist doesnt really give insight on the kind of personality.

after i hit the guy i got a feeling he was moreso in the "schitzo" category than the "thug life" gangster wannbe kind. he almost was a little too anti-social almost like he cant help it or something. i really dont know tho.

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I think i know what you mean. And i kind of got the feeling from the original post. And definately the anti-social not by choice anti-social. (you know the kids who claim they're "anti-social" but they're social.. yeah)

Anyways. Eh. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You at least had a hell of a story to tell. I think the best part is definately the bagels. I mean that just makes it so funny.

The whole thing reminds me of fight club. Where htey go out and try to pick fights with ordinary people and lose. hahaha god that shit is so funny.

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yea dude, i mean, when i say i'm a pacifist, i mean only to certain extent. i would never plan on running up to someone and kickin their ass, but if it was a case of savin a person i loved, i would chop it up, bruce lee style.

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I think under circumstances, liek the one you mentioned about someone you love being endangered, you would have so much adrenaline that you could probably hold your own against someone who didn't have the same amount of passion you had. However, I think the only people who can really be effectivley dangerous towards others, without a good reason like self defense, would either be severly mentally disturbed people, or people who have lots of expiereience and/or training on how to fight. Most people dont fit those two bills though, so you never really know.

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Just carry a gun too?

Wow you can see how this american gun thing spreads like thrush...

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thats a bad idea for numerous reasons

low-tech, dude you should have gotten the burritos from that place, their really good. Provdence is filled with DB's

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Wow thats pretty ignorant.

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burritos?,DB's? the mexican food here is ok.............i miss the west coast when it comes to burritos.

anyway, if everyone had a weapon beyond ex-cons and certifiable nutcases the US would be a better place.

that dude in canada<if he did that shit in the US> would of been cut down after the first exchange.

im not talking automatic weapons,mortar,bazookas. pump action shotguns and pistols will do. i still wouldnt own a concealed firearm going out<if the laws were more lenient i may get one for home safety in years to come>, maybe a cattleprod or something.

look at how many illegal guns there are here. cops are the only protection for that. the average dude is literally powerless. friends of mine have been robbed at gunpoint. cops cant be there for every stickup.

the criteria for obtaining one should be changed and since the development of rubber bullets/less fatal ammo this may sway public perception. i also think people can roll with body armor, the real dangerous people own this shit anyway......................................lets even out the score.

gangs,drug kingpins,biker thugs,neo-nazis and "lonewolf" psychos,ex-cons will all be on thier fucking toes. we should no longer be at thier mercy. you wanna talk about terrorism? im more concerned with the local chapter of MS-13, mafiosa wannabes than al-queda. we dont need a patriot act for them, just the second amendment will do.

i also think people with military training or ex-law enforcement<granted they left on good terms and arent psychos,felons themselves> can be bounty hunters.

for all this to work we have decriminalize drug laws. make guys who push coke and dope,meth,crack, make thier work less tolerable and more dangerous. psychedelic drugs? weed?.......legalize it and if the users turn into acid casualties they can seek help for that, i myself stopped dropping acid when i felt it was getting too intense.

i may sound crazy, but even i realize that the leftist solutions suck, its left us in a world of a bitter,hated,overburdened police force and simply better equiped and more dangerous organized crime, everyone else walks around with a fucking target on thier heads. granted all of this operates on the logic people will behave,are decent and wont abuse the powers given, that i dont know. im more for more rights and responaibility above all.

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More power to you and isn't that the truth. I think society really blows up that issue out of proportion anyways. Especially the media seems to attempt to hype up the "dangerousness" of living in america, as if its really that dangerous at all. Its the few incidentences that leave the largest impression.

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my town is small and calm. and i dont actually live "in town" so i dont go for walks (or frequent visits) into town, usually. and no one ever bugs me or talks through their ass. possibly because i walk around with an unpleasant look, so-to-speak-, on my face. i kind of miss punching someone. minus all that "guilty" talk, it feels pretty good. letting someone have it, when called for. in fact, i often daydream about similar situaitons from my past, and wish id be in them again, as one mentioned not far back in this thread. but more importantly, i anticipate how i will chose to handle the future incident(s).

EDIT: oh yeah, and how i can "win" the ordeal, and walk away knowing so.

ha, lo-tech i know what you mean about getting assholes in the food industry. people talk down to you like youre some piece of shit who should be falling all over himself to accomodate them. whats great about that is my family owns the restaraunt i work in, so when suckers come in acting the fool i go ape shit. you shouldve of seen the look of horror on the face of this drunk asshole (who insulted our then 17 year old counter girl, my little sister) when i came charging out of the kitchen and threw him into a table (im a pretty big guy, 6'4" 235 lbs). i thought he was going to burst into tears. he apologized and took his sniveling shit faced ass out the door. now im as opposed to violence as any one else,and i dont tell this story to promote fighting or act like im some hardass. my point is, maybe that dickhead will think twice before dumping on someone else. im gonna burn one right now for all you fuckers in the service industry. cheers!!!

I must say i read that and that TOO was a h ilarious fucking story. Cause i could totally see that. yeah i'm not that big.. 6 foot.. 155-160 pounds.. yeah....

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haha nice! that reminds me of basstendencies, he was my old roommate and is working at a pizza place his dad owns. him and his dad are pretty big and if someone gave his sister shit there, they would be throwing him through the fucking window!

ha and i guess since you and tm put your shit there..i'm 5'9" 173(plus or minus) lbs. hah yea i have a slight beer gut.

Thats pretty heavy for a 5 9 person haha. Last time i saw you, you were probably like 140 pounds.

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I'm 5'10...180lbs...lol, power to the beer guts!

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jesus fucking christ!!!

i think i've had too much scotch!! haha ha i completely thought bassbehemoth posted that shit about his sister and it reminded me of basstendencies. i must've just read bass and thought steve doesn't post too much haha. someone please kick me in the face.

yea man...i was a bit less back then. hell i didn't eat meat for 3 years not too long ago. i was like 135-140 then. i started eating meat, got more into drinking and bam! a good thirty pounds.

i love the trailer park boys show..randy's gut gets bigger and bigger and in one show they actually show a group of peple talking and its just his gut on one side of the screen. you can't see anything of him other than his gut, but you can hear him say shit. its fucking hilarious!


edit...i even quoted him! i think i'm going to gouge out my eyes.

thats what caused me to look back...i was thinking..didn't he just say he was 6 something and over 200!?

can i get an order of 15 half eaten cheeseburgers from randy gut? seriously brian, full mr nasty time status has been achieved, put down the scotch. luckily for that dick my dad wasnt there, he really wouldve fucked him up. dont let nastys (xgrafcorex) size fool you, this kid slammed me off the wall in a drunken rage when i was fucking with him one night.

hahaha yea i can't believe i fucked that one up. it was too similar to believe. any closer to selling the place? and hit me up before whatever show over here you are gonna come out to. i'll be going to all those i listed pretty much. gonna probably just take pics while there, so i won't be in all the shit, but i need to work on my low light pics anyway. if you make it over, i can drive down there no problem. and we'll probably have some homemade jerky for the drives.

So you know each other as well? Christ!


I only know Fearfrost...and he's a big fag!

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hahaha well i only know tmfreak through me brother, we hung out a time or two. steve (basstendencies) on the other hand was my roommate for a while and has been a friend of mine since i moved fo florida. i knew of the site for tabs, but he actually told me about the forum so i joined.

i got fucked with again.

this time it was a certifiable crackhead, man those guys are fucked up. the guy was a little rat looking motherfucker.

this time i chilled out. the dude wasnt worth it. i went for my walk extra late so all the bars get out and the city clears.

oh well,fuck it

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What the fuck dude.

Where teh hell do you live!#()%

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downtown providence on the weekends is a living nightmare, apparently even at 3am, this time i just felt the need to walk around for a few hour since there was nothing much going down. downtown is usually a ghosttown at that time. walking in empty cities is real fun, a thing i do on occasion.

its not like gangs and shootouts kinda bad,mind you. more like weekend warrior bar brawl sort of vibe.

the guy i ran into was possibly hiv/hep C positive crackhead/junkie from the look of him, real dirty,nasty,malnourished looking dude.

there was no element of fear, i figured if he touches me, gets in my way then the shit is on. the guy said some shit, followed me a while then i ran into some other low-life jackasses who most likely smoke crack as a hobby and i warned about him comming up the road looking for trouble. the guys already knew him and said he was full of shit, nothing to worry about. crackhead man lost interest. i dont feel any which way about it. its the kind of guy if i fought i would HAVE to go to a clinic for some bloodwork done.

im like a magnet for crazy people

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