my english sucks and im wondering what "bust up, tune down and sabb off "means. i saw it one some down poster of a friend of mine. must be some slang shit donno. never heard of it. plus im on the wrong forum here. hopefully someone knows this

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umm, bust up, if somethings busted up its broken and not functioning right.
tuning down is lowering the tuning on your strings, you probably know that one, so its heavier


sabb off isnt engish, at least american english. may be brit slang

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I've never heard Sabb off before, and I'm English. But if it was a Down poster, chances are it's some kind of reference to smoking cannabis.

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Never heard of it. I think it might be Australian for "wank".

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i think sabb off is just like fuck off??

i think ive heard it on some eglish shows or sumtin. but maybe that was sut off (or sumtin like that)

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isnt sabb a car company

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If it was on a Down poster it's probably a play on the phrase coined by acid head Timothy Leary in the 60's 'turn on, tune in, drop out'

On their poster, Tune down refering to the de-tuning of guitars and Sabb off refering to the band Black Sabbath and Downs love of them

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thats saab

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whats a "down poster"?


or am i having on of those incredibly stupid moments?

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A large piece of paper with printing on one side that shows the logo and design/artwork of a band, that said band being DOWN.

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i knew it, im cursed to be dumb.............fuck!


never heard of the band

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Really? Down was the other popular side-project of Phil Anselmo, the other being superjoint ritual. He was in like.....20 bands though.

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im not a pantera fan tho.


i did listen them for a breif while when i first got into metal

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My English also sucks, even though im American...(wait our english is shit compared to the orginal)

nah man, english always sucked. its like the largest pidgeon language.

we even fucked up informal tenses. "thou" was informal believe it or not. "you" is like "usted", it was formal.

what about 2nd person singular?

hey, you guys

hey, youse

hey, ya'll

hey, you'inz

it used to be: hey, ye!

so now a female,when talking to other chicks or a group of men and women refers to them as "you guys"

this is not to mention all the irregularities in spelling,loan words and such. but its still amazing people from non-english speaking countries get everything spot on better than myself and alot of others. i admit being lazy about typing.

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all languages have deviation from grammar due to slang dude

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English is worse. Most languages don't have two roots. Most languages have stricter and more sensible rules.

Dahmers is right. The fact that none of you see the letters 'SABB' and don't think 'SABBATH,' as in Black Sabbath, makes me question your metalness.

And you don't have to like Pantera to like, or have heard of, Down.

do they sound like sabbath?

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Uhh.....well they are doomish. They have more Southern influences shining in though. Phil does a good job vocally, I think.

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if you are refering to the second person singular, noone is comfortable with straight "you" when refering to a group of people, thats why its modified with slang.

if everyone stayed with "ye" there wouldnt be so much regional variation/slang for it. its a defect in our language that had previously been settled on. i dont really understand why at one point we shed all these formal/informal rules, they made perfect sense, they sound sorta cool and it would help us understand the latin vernaculars<when learning spanish,french etc.> formal/informal intuitively and some germanic style verb congegation "thou hast" as in "du hast".

using "ye" now, id sound like some sort of asshole trying to throw in archiac words to sound like one of those goth motherfuckers.

some assholes dumbed down and wussified our beloved language.

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Yeah I hate gangsta rap too.

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Don't forget virtually every musician or music fan, ever.

I don't think 'ye' would fix anything. I'll have to look up why 'you' survived and not 'thou.' Incidentally, though, while it's from the German, it's used as the informal second person because English, in many ways, got fucked up by trying to imitate French. Keep in mind that our language is not actually descended from Latin, and our grammar is not Latinate.

Down's basically designed to have something of a 70's feel, and Pepper Keenan has a lot of trouble not writing in a Sabbath vein. But there's a lot of Southern rock in the mix, as mentioned.

i totally disagree. rap music actually brought rhyme and meter to the extent it had been explored in the realm of english poetry fucking way back when and galvanized it into a popular musical artform.

poetry and music. unlike most languages that are a vernacular of latin, it actually takes skill to rhyme in syncopation. "freestyle" is obviously improvisation which is......very hard to do, coherently.they even invent words or modify existing ones to fit.

there is still good rap music out there, gangster shit is just a mainstream, its like judging metal based on korn or slipknot. im not really into it but its almost hypocritical to knock it<ive knocked it at times>, there are genres of metal way more irresponsible and callous with thier message<that grindbore gore shit comes to mind>.

i was actually refering to the uneducated masses in england that couldnt conform to rules set about the language or in the case of "thou,thee,thy and thine,ye etc." felt it was condescending so stopped using it. this was before shakespeare and the king james bible<they both consistantly fuck up the tenses, in shakespeares plays it could actually be naunce or used for an effect, a wordy but clever fucking dude>.

i wasnt insinuating that it was rap music at all. if anything black people are responsible for most slang words anyway, i dont really care that much about slang. we had already got rid of a bunch of stuff that created ambigualities and further hindered english's simularities with other languages. slang is extra shit, we had already forfited structural clarity on a very small scale.

only those quaker motherfuckers still used the tenses, the dialogue in moby dick is fucking badass. i dont recall one swearword too.

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hm wait what we got till now. bust up is something like a split up according some net dictionary. tune down is really meant to be tuning down the strings of guitar and sabb of has somethin to do with sabbath. doesnt make a fucking sense to me yet.

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Nope. I assume it means "bugger off" or something like that though.

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Blame William the Conqueror for that one. He would have been one of the first.

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Ha, I was kidding! "Wank off"? Ah well...

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No. I have never listen everbefor it.

Speaking of wank off...

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