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Old 2006-09-14, 10:35
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eBay banning sales of Black Metal related items...

Just got this from from Blabbermouth, I know lots of people here get their shit from eBay so I thought you should at least be informed on what the fuck is happening:
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Paula Hogan of MANIC Music & Distribution and Candlelight Records USA has contacted BLABBERMOUTH.NET to report that "eBay is [allegedly] currently starting a ban on black/extreme metal. A few of our vendors who have sizeable eBay stores are now finding their items pulled down by eBay directly. The list we have compiled so far that have been pulled for sale via any eBay stores or auctions is noted below. I'm sure there are more."

Added Dan Ferguson of Indianapolis, IN's Abyss Records: "I had a number of items removed and account suspended by selling black metal. It seems a group of so-called Christians have been reporting black metal bands (even though eBay has black metal as a search genre) as all racist and hateful and discriminatory."

The items that were allegedly removed by eBay because they "violated the eBay Hateful or Discriminatory policy" are as follows:

BURZUM - Complete 6 LP SET
EMPEROR - IX Equilibrium ORIG. LP
WOTANORDEN - From The.. CD
BURZUM - s/t / Aske DOUBLE LP
1349 - Beyond The CD
DARKTHRONE - Panzerfaust CD
MAYHEM - Collection 4 LP SET
PANTHEON - Krihapentswor CD
DARKTHRONE - Total Death CD
BURZUM - Draugen CD DVD
BURZUM - Daudi Baldrs LP
BURZUM - Daudi Baldrs CD
ZYKLON B - Blood Must Be Shed CD
ARMAGGEDON - Imperium CD
EMPEROR - Demo LP
1349 - Hellfire DOUBLE LP
DARKTHRONE - Hate Them CD
BURZUM - Filosofem DOUBLE LP
BURZUM - Hlidskjalf LP
BURZUM - Det Som Engang Var DIGI CD
CAMULOS / AINSHVAL - Split CD
BURZUM - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss LP
BURZUM - Det Som Engang Var LP
NOKTURNAL MORTUM - Weltanschauung CD
SATYRICON - Now, Diabolical CD

In eBay's e-mail to Ferguson explaining their decision to remove his listing, they write, "eBay doesn't permit sellers to list items that promote or glorify hatred, violence, or racial intolerance. Items that promote organizations with such views are also prohibited.

"eBay will judiciously disallow listings or items that promote or glorify hatred, violence or racial intolerance, or items that promote organizations (such as Nazis, neo-Nazis and Aryan Nation) with such views. This policy also applies to listings that offer shipping to countries where certain items may be illegal."


Fuck the christian agenda. I hope there's no legal way they can do this.
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Old 2006-09-14, 10:43
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Old 2006-09-14, 10:55
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I agree with you, but am not going to cry any time soon. EBay is a private company - there is no right to free expression on their website. They no doubt have a policy clause which says "We can do what we like, so up yours". If they think it's a viable commercial decision, they'll make it.

(Also, a lot of that list is RAW TR00 OLD SK00L BL4CK M3TAL that sounds like cats fucking in a tin box.)

BUT. As little as I think of old-school black metal, that list is a pile of shit. Satyricon? Read this and decide for yourself if it in any way qualifies at 'hate-filled'. The album art? No fucking way.

Perhaps 1349? I think this stuff is pretty mild but that's just me... I'm almost entirely immune to it.

By their own standards, they need to ban this, or perhaps
this, certainly this , and any number of other things.

Witch-hunt bullshit.
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Old 2006-09-14, 10:57
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Old 2006-09-14, 11:03
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Ok yes well banning violence take away every gore death or metal band other than like 80s thrash that was against the war and involved with politics, take away all the korn and all the nu metal, take away every form of aggressive music ever.
 
Old 2006-09-14, 11:20
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take away every form of aggressive music ever.

that's what they should do,at least be fair
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Old 2006-09-14, 11:21
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Well I hope they're banning gangster rap also!
 
Old 2006-09-14, 11:59
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Maybe they should ban Christian music due to its overwhelmingly turgid quality. Oh, and it offends people who don't want religion rammed down their throat.

"Mummy, mummy! That bad man is selling black metal that I'm never going to buy anyway! Make him stop hurting my eyes, mummy!"

What a group of tossers. Just because they would rather sit and listen to scriptures being read by Scott Stapp doesn't mean everybody else does.
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Old 2006-09-14, 12:42
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maybe they are still getting around to it all..but of the one album listed that i searched: http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...URZUM+-+Draugen
 
Old 2006-09-14, 13:07
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Perhaps 1349? I think this stuff is pretty mild but that's just me... I'm almost entirely immune to it.



isn't chasing the dragon smoking crack after shooting heroine?

anyways, yea, this is pretty ridiculous. i know for some people out in the middle of fuckin nowhere, ebay is their only source of metal media. someone should right a e-petition. i would be more than happy to sign it.

BOYCOTT EBAY UNTIL THEY ALLOW BLACK METAL!
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Old 2006-09-14, 13:55
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That's ridiculous, but they banned used underwear sales so my income went back down again. ( <--sarcasm) You know if they do that another place will spring up that does sell that stuff and you guys will probably be first to spread the word. Where there's a will (or a market) there's a way.
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Old 2006-09-14, 14:29
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Old 2006-09-14, 14:29
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That's ridiculous, but they banned used underwear sales so my income went back down again. ( <--sarcasm) )


I nearly choked on my cuppa tea when I read this!
 
Old 2006-09-14, 14:33
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I don't go on ebay, so this probably doesn't affect me as much as some of you, but yeah, I think it is bullshit. But also, as Far Beyond Sane said(I think it was him), they had to have some little thing in the terms of agreement that cancels out your freedom to speech in a way. Kind of like on youtube; this one dude made a videodescribing how our 1st amendment rights pretty much mean shit when we post a video on there.

Can these cd's be bought in stores?
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Old 2006-09-14, 14:38
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they should just ban Black Metal from the freakin planet.
 
Old 2006-09-14, 14:39
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Old 2006-09-14, 15:18
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Amazon.com has Burzum stuff. I would assume they have the other bands mentioned but I don't have time right now to check all of them. Is there something wrong with amazon.com I don't know about?
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Old 2006-09-14, 15:33
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anyways, yea, this is pretty ridiculous. i know for some people out in the middle of fuckin nowhere, ebay is their only source of metal media.


It's ridiculous but not because of availability issues; it's the freedom of expression aspect that worries me. They can always get CD's from another website after all.
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Old 2006-09-14, 15:37
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Old 2006-09-14, 15:38
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isn't chasing the dragon smoking crack after shooting heroine?



i'm pretty sure chasing the dragon is a reference to smoking opium. i could be mistaken though.
 
Old 2006-09-14, 15:50
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Well hey there are like DC++ hubs out there that i've been baned from for having certain Oi bands on my harddrive because they claim "its white supremicist" music. Bullshit. Its once again everybody seems to think skin punk, or Oi punk has rascist and so on. Its about the dumbest thing i've ever heard considering its ANTI-rascist. Wierd how they get pinned the opposite label by the majority for the globe.


Anyways.... This ebay thing is pretty dumb, but then again they can do whatever they want to do. Although they should probably rethink the reason behind why they're doing it and who it would effect and why.
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Old 2006-09-14, 16:27
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they might as well say "hey kid, these records are cool,however we cannot sell them."

theyre giving free press to these bands. its the same as when the parental advisory sticker can out, same as when marilyn mansons shows were cancelled after numerous school shootings. same as when 2livecrew got arrested for obsenity

all this stuff does is stigmatizes music that sells on controversy anyway. when you make shocking,profane music and then retailers,senators,religious groups denounce it for being nothing more than what it is, thats the best advertisement for it.
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Old 2006-09-14, 16:49
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Im not sure how much i truly believe this after searching burzum and finding 200+ results, same with many of the other "banned" bands". Also as stated before "Black Metal" Is a search genera. and also for the other fact Black Metal is not the only style of music to glorify the listed "bad" things.
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I don't believe that this is true.

However, if it is, e-bay is perfectly within their rights and I don't give a shit.
 
Old 2006-09-14, 17:28
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I don't know if it's true or not. But fuck they accuse BM of being racist? Bullshit. I'll admit some is but not all. You want to ban a racist band? Hatebreed! Don't they have a song called "Kill The Nigger"?

Christian bullshit is what this is!
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Old 2006-09-14, 17:59
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I don't know if it's true or not. But fuck they accuse BM of being racist? Bullshit. I'll admit some is but not all. You want to ban a racist band? Hatebreed! Don't they have a song called "Kill The Nigger"?

Christian bullshit is what this is!


I think you'll find it's called 'Kill an Addict'
 
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I don't really care, don't use Ebay anyway.
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Old 2006-09-14, 18:31
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Old 2006-09-14, 19:09
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I don't know if it's true or not. But fuck they accuse BM of being racist? Bullshit. I'll admit some is but not all. You want to ban a racist band? Hatebreed! Don't they have a song called "Kill The Nigger"?

Christian bullshit is what this is!

This may be shooting piss into the wind carelessly, but maybe they misconstrude the term "BLACK Metal" to mean something else. I remember the first time I played some Dimmu in my dad's car, and I told them they were a black metal band, and he thought that meant they were a metal band with black people in it.
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Old 2006-09-14, 19:11
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There are plenty of death metal bands that are satanist just look at Deicide.
 
Old 2006-09-14, 19:45
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There are plenty of death metal bands that are satanist just look at Deicide.

Wh.....dude......c'mon. Deicide are funny, not satanic.
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Old 2006-09-14, 20:00
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no wayt DONT

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Old 2006-09-14, 20:49
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Old 2006-09-14, 21:07
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They should also ban Kiss, the creators of black metal.


What a load of shit..ebay pisses me off, for the past few weeks my account has been invalid for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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They should also ban Kiss, the creators of black metal.

Ha.

I always wondered why everyone attacks satanic and gore bands. To me Punk is way worse with the treasonous imagery most seem to glorify. It's way worse to destroy a society of people through anarchy than it is to kill a woman and eat her dead cunt or burn a pentagram on a helpless bunny for some cult ritual.
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Old 2006-09-14, 22:12
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Haaaaannnnnnnngggggggg on, this wouldn't have something to do with a certain recent shooting in Montreal, would it?
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Old 2006-09-14, 22:13
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i might as well jump in and say that i think this is stupid as well. luckily i only like two of those bands. but thats not what would make me mad anyway, its the whole idea of doing this. just retarded. i cant believe the views of some people
 
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Haaaaannnnnnnngggggggg on, this wouldn't have something to do with a certain recent shooting in Montreal, would it?

It probably does, I read that after I read this thread and those were my thoughts.
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they should open a new site for this shit, like Necrobay or e-Frostbitten.castle, with a disclaimer right on the opening page:

"you need to be this evil to enter."
 
Old 2006-09-14, 22:46
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this is ridiculous. so i guess theire gonna be taking black metal shirts off ebay also? and Stormtroopers of Death merchandise? ouch
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Well, they can't get rid of Death, because Chuck is a born-again Christina.....I mean Christian.
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Well, they can't get rid of Death, because Chuck is a born-again Christina.....I mean Christian.

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Then no one would be allowed in, because no one is as grim as Abbath.
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It probably does, I read that after I read this thread and those were my thoughts.


Agreed those were my thoughts also, just like after columbine and the banning of Marlyin Manson shows. If it really is being banned. Oh and my girlfriend also thought it was heavy metal music with black people haha
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Well, they can't get rid of Death, because Chuck is a born-again Christina.....I mean Christian.

Ummmm.......can dead people classify as born-again christians?
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blamming musicians for fucked up peeps decisions to blow up a school is pretty much the definition of a "straw man" fallacy. i did a search of "burzum" on ebay and still got some hits, mostly merchandise, however. if those cds are the only things not being sold, i dont mind too much. i already have all the emperor, nokturnal mortum and burzum i'll ever need.
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Old 2006-09-15, 14:20
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I remember the first time I played some Dimmu in my dad's car, and I told them they were a black metal band, and he thought that meant they were a metal band with black people in it.


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Old 2006-09-15, 14:49
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Ummmm.......can dead people classify as born-again christians?

I don't know why I'm letting this get to me, but it is possible to convert and then die, you insignificunt.
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Old 2006-09-15, 15:03
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this is ridiculous. so i guess theire gonna be taking black metal shirts off ebay also? and Stormtroopers of Death merchandise? ouch


Well S.O.D. is more joking around and stuff. It would be like trying to ban Anal Cunt or G.G. Allin merch.

Besides I don't think shirts are being taken off there are so many shits that spout blashemy on ebay and sites already. Like Rotten Cotton. They have shirts like "I Fucked A Nun" or "Cancell Easter I Found The Body" "Wash your hands after touching christians" but my personal favourite is a picture of a cross with an arrow pointing to the bottom saying "This Side Up". That's why Rotten Cotton, Satan's Sideshow and Punk Stuff are the places where I got most of my clothes. I just use ebay for REALLY rare albums, shirts, comics, toys, and other things.
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Old 2006-09-15, 15:13
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Ebay should ban things like this: http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...ntrypage=search .....because it takes away from people's much needed weekend exercising.
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Man, I get real sweaty after I wack my dong. Yeah, cause I headbang while I do, and I can't really "Jump" (haha ) like VanHalen in a dorm room, so I just walk back and forth....haha a couple days ago I was jumping up and down on my bed, with my pants down and my roommate came in when I wasn't looking, hahaha.


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Old 2006-09-15, 15:13
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I feel sorry for the vendors as they've had their trade restricted by a small group of simpletons who treat mythology as a means by which to judge other people. How pious of them to deprive a fellow human of a living - I bet the Christians would be the first to complain when the people they've put out of business are signing on to the welfare system. Cunts.
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Old 2006-09-15, 15:17
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I don't know why I'm letting this get to me, but it is possible to convert and then die, you insignificunt.

Ha, I jsut thought it was sort of oxymoronish. "Born-again christians" don't get born again when it counts.
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Old 2006-09-15, 19:00
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Go and find out yourself at emptywords.org, dick.



will do, i didnt meant to be antagonistic either

i dont ever remember anything about him being a born-again
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Old 2006-09-15, 19:51
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If only Chuck was just "born again".

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Old 2006-09-15, 22:01
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If only Chuck was just "born again".

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He should've picked a different religion, like buddhism or something.
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Old 2006-09-16, 00:46
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http://search.ebay.com/anarchist-co...ZQQsofoc usZbs
hahaha, definately not black metal here.....
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Old 2006-09-16, 06:09
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banning sales of black metal stuff - what a fucking load of shit.
 
Old 2006-09-17, 01:39
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This is almost as gay as Problematic.
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Old 2006-09-17, 01:48
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banning sales of black metal stuff - what a fucking load of shit.

thanks for that amerok


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Old 2006-09-17, 01:56
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thanks for that amerok

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I think amerok prefers to communicate through sweeping arpeggios, rather than words.
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Old 2006-09-17, 02:02
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If eBay wanted to be as gay as problematic they would have to be overstock.com
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Old 2006-09-17, 02:06
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hahahahaha true.
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Old 2006-09-17, 03:51
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I think amerok prefers to communicate through sweeping arpeggios, rather than words.

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Old 2006-09-17, 03:52
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