i just read about a columbine type shooting in a college.

http://s12.invisionfree.com/Hellpit...?showtopic=2642

knowing that many of you dudes are canadian, my sympathies and condolances. it is a fuckin crazy world we live in.

RIP to the victims

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....so

This is becoming more and more common outside the US.

Sad.. sad..

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Taxi Driver for the win, i guess.

I'm surprised it was at a college at that.

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Oh fuck man, they just described him on the news. "A student in a trench coat, army fatigue pants, and was sporting a mohawk." From now on, all punks are evil. Seriously though, why does the mohawk matter? I remember there was like a child porn...webmaster lord who was arrested around here a year ago. AND FOR NO REASON they said his favorite band was Cradle of Filth. WWWTTTTFFFFF

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I'm sorry to hear that people are still this stupid. Is it cool or something to shoot up a school?

I wonder if Marilyn Manson will be blamed for this one too? Who is to blame is the most important thing you know.

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I was waiting for this sort of ignorant journalism to surface.

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Yeah what the fuck, there was one in Germany a year or two ago. I would never expect this shit to happen in Canada, now you know there's gonna be some stupid gun control advocates going 'A HA! So they AREN'T safer then us!' Fucking dicks... but the biggest dicks of all are the people who are actually motivated to going and doing this shit, when they could be doing something constructive with their 'feelings' or whatever.
Ignorance goes hand in hand with 'journalism'. Expect the worst and you'll be never dissapointed is what I always say.

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Sensationalism my good friend. Quoting someone as being a Whitney Houston fan doesn’t induce the same blood curdling fear in the public as a band with extreme image, name or loud aggressive music. People look for an answer, rather than look on their on door step it makes it more palatable to scapegoat a style or genre of music. Just by naming a metal band you've almost exonerated the individual of any culpability in the crime Yeah right!
As for military fatigues....James Huberty wore military fatigues when he rampaged through McDonalds in 1984 as did Michael Ryan in 1987 when he laid waste to Hungerford, so did Denis Lorte at the Quebec Citadel in 1984 and I don't recall any of them being Cannibal Corpse fans?

These people tend to be narcissistic individuals who fail to see they are to blame for the gap between their ambitious expectations and actual achievements and or failings. More pressure is placed on the individual to be a success these days, a situation exacerbated if he is a citizen of one of the world's most powerful nations as these tend to propagate the notion of ease of social advancement. They'll be left with feelings of failure and powerlessness when they realise there is no realistic chance of success. With school this could be alienation, social exclusion, failure to obtain grades, exams etc. With work it could be being over looked for promotion, redundancy or sacking. They can't possibly lay the blame at their own feet so some other system, society or institution is to blame. Some feel persecuted and eventually they snap with all this simmering anger. They then target the place they see as the root of all their troubles; college, work, society or a race or gender of people(Marc Lepine targeted female engineering students in Montreal in 1989) Next they get tooled up and make the headlines, now the world will not forget my name.......


My thoughts are with those caught up in yesterday’s incident.

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Of course metal is to blame!
I saw the photos,he didn't have a mohawk in those.
Journalists are worse than lawyers and cops combined!

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Yeah, it is a shame that some are so out of reality that they do stupid stuff to other people. And some are so out of reality they believe what's reported. Whether it's guns or whatever, if someone wants to kill people they'll find a way to do it.

I don't think we don't hear of things because they don't happen. I think it's because it's surpressed in the respective countries unlike the US that everyone's waiting for something to happen in.

Recently I saw on the news about a girl who was kidnapped and hidden for about 8 years in Austria. Apparently that's been a case in the works for that long, but we're just hearing about it now since she escaped.

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Well shit, my killing spree must be way over due. Because I like drinking, have upwards of 2000 CD's, prefer Burger King over Maccy D's and I think Heavy Metal Rules!

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(sends Dahmer's email address to FBI)

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That explains that laundry van with a satellite dish on it's roof that's been sat outside my house for the past week!!!

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yeah i saw that one, CRAZY story. she will never ever ever be a normal human being, its terrible

anyways this is nothing shocking, and at least he only killed 1

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Two opportunities within ten minutes, wehee.

We're fans and practicioners of a genre designed and sharpened in many aspects to rock and shock in the tones of words like "charge" and "kill". As Soul said, the most important thing in situations like this is to find a scape goat and we are by default standing in the line of fire, giving the mandatory fuck-you finger.

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They mentioned how he was dressed because they like to include those kinds of details in crime stories. If he was wearing a Seville Row double-breasted herringbone suit and had whatever's considered a fine, fashionable male haricut, we'd have heard about it too. And, oddly enough, high powered businessmen would not be whining on the internet about how this will make them all look like criminals (possibly because they are already all painted with the criminal fuckhead brush). Part of what journalists do is to report on all of this shit; it's actually their jobs (kinda) to give us all these inane details. On the other hand, us giving a shit is strictly on a volunteer basis.

Anyway, sucks for the people involved. If Canadians in general really need condolences, I'll be surprised; I'm in Canada and this is the first I've heard. I've heard more about the Toronto Film Festival than this.

as i said in the ebay banning thread, way to advertise ozzy,manson,maiden etc.

thats all it is, school shootings happen, have happened for decades......everywhere. columbine happened at a low for that year in actual school shootings, it was just newsworthy to not only harp on one of the deadliest attacks<not the most,mind you of a single attack or number of shootings nationwide OR deaths that are a result of attacks> but pretend the fucking world is crumbling. i wonder why this is getting such press.......maybe because it didnt happen in the US.

dont get me wrong, it sucks. but like those LA/san diego suicide car chases and shootouts on the expressways<10 years ago, OJ simpson being a highpoint> the news knows they are galvanizing the problem by advertising ways to get on the evening news,kill yourself and in the process of killing people who were gonna kill anyway. they shouldnt pay this event much media attention.....its not as if school shootings stopped in the US.

news goes in cycles of convenience. soon shark attacks will be back in few years even tho the year in question most likely wont be statisticallty the highest of occurances or the most murderous.

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Gunman's photo:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/a....gill.06.vf.jpg

I am really pissed about how how the news will represent it. The guy was wearing a Cradle Of Filth shirt. Now they will probably blame Cradle then link it back to Black Metal then to Death Metal/Grind. And that's what scares me. People tried to ban Slipknot and Manson and that garbage but there was nothing really bad about the lyrics Now what do most DM/BM/Grind lyrics write about? Gore, satanism, rape, torutre, cannibalism, necrophilia ect so my big fear is people will try to ban this music and they might succeed. Also will they ban army fatieg and bullet belts and violent shirts? If so then I will become a nudist!

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Get a grip man! *slaps Casketcrusher back and forth*
Do you think this is the first berzerker shooting to involve a metal fan? Or the first such shooting to be linked by metal in some form or other? Do you not think that metal would have been banned before now if it were at all possible to do so based on it's past 20 year track record of suicides, murders etc? Ain't nothing bad going to happen to the genre we love except Roadrunner might sign some Avenge Sevenfold clones

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Thank you. I needed that.

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What a load of shit..if the dude wants to do what the rest of his family are doing, he should go back to godamn middle east.


May his bloody corpse rot.

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I not the least bit worried about them banning anything, because in the US they really have no right to BAN anything.

That guy looked like a total homo. At least I got a laugh when I saw his pic.

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I saw something about this on Fox News Channel (I don't know if you get this channel in Canada and I doubt it. But it is a sensationalist, neo-fascist 'news' channel that wouldn't know journalistic integrity if it fucked them in the ass.) Anyway, it was thoroughly sickening to see them say things like 'we're learning alot about this young man from his website. Apparently he was into vampires and goth and dark music.' After about 5 minutes of this sort of bullshit they get to the 'obnoxious-opinion-disguised-as-journalistic-analysis' and the conversation goes like this:

'Reporter': And that's what we know about this person. It just goes to show how worried parents should be about what their teenagers are into.
Puppet-Head Anchor 1: That's certianly right.
Puppet-Head Anchor 2: Frightening stuff. You have to be aware of the signs.

Then they cut to an 'expert' who is talking about anti-social behavior, as they call it. It goes something like this:

"This type of person, if they grew up in the suburbs and are angry for no reason and think that life sucks, they become a 'goth'. This is just what happens in the Middle East and how terrorists get started. Here in America, these people become criminals and rapists. YOU HAVE TO WATCH FOR THE SIGNS. IT COULD BE ANYONE."

This type of stupid fucking fear mongering bullshit is par for the fucking course in American media. Fox News is just so blatant about their conformist propaganda that it's sickening to watch.

America is full of total pussy-assholes.

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I personally don't get the Fox News Channel, but in this part of the woods we get Fox Rochester.

I watched an indian student from the school say "Fuck" on live CNN while being interviewed about the shooting.

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I don't like newscasters that are better looking than me or act patronizing to the masses. Screw a whole lotta that crap. I liked the lady from Cleveland who turned to her co-anchor after he reported the Paris Hilton arrest and said "Who cares?" Now that was cool.


You know, there's been deaths over the ages that have been blamed on newer music and then 15 minutes later they're using the same music in commercials for expensive stuff. It's dumb to blame music for dumb people's actions.

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Damn straight. (And I'm a fucking american.)

It's sickening ignorance on their part purely because they don't know anything about extreme metal. To say that liking extreme music is a "sign" of a tendancy to rape or murder is unimaginably naiive - and furthermore unfounded - and typical espousal from the sort of God-fearing, melodramatic American that we all love to hate.

One can't blame them for it, but if they profered a balanced argument by also asking the opinions of a metal journalist or other such extreme music luminary then maybe that piece would gain my respect. As it stands it's merely a piece produced by pinning the tail on the donkey, fuelled by fear of the unknown.

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This arouses hatred for medical society and proffessional opinion and journalism inside of me.

I can't believe Blabbermouth.com spelled "McDonalds" incorrectly.

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Oh snap.

even debates on the fox,cnn,msnbc,etc shows suck. its a screaming match,its like political WWF, whoever can yell the most retarded and loudest non-sequitur rants and strawmen arguments wins...........its a total setup. thats the norm here and is a disgrace,.......utter sham to journalism.

i listened to BBC world news on NPR<radio station> now and again. you guys over in britain may not even like BBC but to me its like "wow, these people sound very proffessional, this sounds like what our news was like 15-20 years ago"

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Yeah, the BBC prides itself on being balanced and each week there is a program specifically for questioning higher-echelon editors over the content of their reports/programs and how they presented the arguments for and against. You won't be surprised to hear that it airs at around 7am on a Sunday morning!

However, I wouldn't say that it was pristine - I'm pretty sure that you don't think that either - just slightly less "sensationalist" in comparison to our American counterparts.

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bbc on PBS (public broadcasting) > msnbc

they dont have a bunch of SHIT all over the screen

as lewis black said, you only catch a little bit of that scroll and its like "Terror in your neighborhood" what the fuck?!

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after i read the blog in the other thread, i was happy that he died. after i saw his picture, i was very happy that he died.

Fuck generalizations.

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"Enjoyed whiskey in the morning"

It was a drunken killing spree.

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