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Steve Irwin, Crocodile Hunter......
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blizzard beast already posted this in the RTT thread, even though this deserves its own thread.
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and it happened in my state
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2006-09-04, 05:47
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I feel worst for his family but I will miss Steve. He had balls of heavy radioactive steel
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2006-09-04, 05:53
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Sorry, didnt know it was in RTT or whatever. And yes, his wife hasnt been able to see him, she is in Tassy at the moment.
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Just heard this in the office. I posited the opinion that the sting-ray is just too convenient and a cover story for him probably tripping over a paving stone. For some reason, I was yelled at. Some people have no sense of humour.
He was a complete idiot, a massively bad Australian stereotype and annoying in doses of more than 90 seconds. Suffice to say, I thought he was hilarious and I'll miss him.
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Well I just heard the news and was actually about to post it myself.
I feel sorry for him. He had it coming for him, but he was a cool guy.
R.I.P (or, maybe he'd take any sort of "peace" or "resting" as an insult)
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2006-09-04, 07:13
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What a drag... Cheers to Steve!
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Bummer. That has to be a painful way to die.
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It was bound to happen.
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not like that though....thats a very rare case. unfortunate as well. i guess i'll have one of these black and tans for the man.
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I'm getting a tattoo of Steve Irwin because of this
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and it happened in my state
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haha, so what?
This is pretty sad.
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2006-09-04, 07:31
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I remember seeing this guy fannying around with his new born baby in a crocodile enclosure. What a cunt. Shame he's dead, though - his enthusiasm for what he did was very infectious.
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haha, so what?
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well we can be re-named the place that killed Steve
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2006-09-04, 07:49
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It happened about 2 hours away from where I live. I win.
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2006-09-04, 07:54
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Who the fuck cares where it happened unless you are going to hunt the sting ray that did it...
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It always sucks when somebody dies, but this is an inherent risk for doing dangerous work.
I guess he shouldn't have tried to learn more by sticking his thumb up his butt..
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well, at least he died doing his thing. that shit beats a full mediocre, boring but very safe, life dying in an old folks home at 114 anyday.
from what i seen the dude was silly at times and kinda overdid stuff a bit, placed himself at risk where he didnt need to. it sucks someone has to be a bit crazy with this stuff for it to draw viewers.
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damn not steve..
whats weird though, like a year or more back, i heard a lotof rumours that he died of a snakebite, so im actualy kinda surprised that he just died instead of back then but man, i loved watching his shows, and his appearance on southpark was awesome to :P
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He pissed off dangerous animals for a living. Must have pissed one off enough to kill him.
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Really sad to hear...He was a really cool fellow...I'm gonna miss him.
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This is one thing I really didn't want to hear about. A celebrity I like has died. He was a cool guy
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damn thats gotta suck they said the barb went through his chest. cool guy.
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Fuck that guy was the craziest fuck on tv,RIP.
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RIP, you touched a lot of lives.
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Its sad hes died, of course, as he was cool, but damn, you piss off enough animals and ones going to fuck you over.
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He probably bit through the tail to provoke the animal.
Nonetheless, he was a huge force is the animal media.
Steve Irwin>That crazy Bushwacker Aussie who doesn't wear footwear.
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At his funeral they would say Steve Irwin a hero to some a idiot to others.
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It was bound to happen.
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brotha died doing what he loves, like timmy treadwell. no greater way to die
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Dimebag died doing what he loved too. No one made fun of him.......and if they did...
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Yeah..Dimebag died doing what he loved..because he loved getting shot in the face.
Sorry Pantera fans, I kid, I kid.
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you done told me lots of thangs bout beer n shit and canada. have a grand ol cunt of a good time.
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Hmm, I will let that blasphemy slide. I think I phrased it wrong. He died doing what he loved, not BECAUSE of what he loved.
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you done told me lots of thangs bout beer n shit and canada. have a grand ol cunt of a good time.
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Crikey, RIP mate, shame to see you go!
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He did have it coming, but RIP nonetheless
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Yeah..Dimebag died doing what he loved..because he loved getting shot in the face.
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I couldnt believe it when I was told yesterday - Steve Irwin doesnt die
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And I kinda think its ironic, that he is the Crocodile Hunter, but died because of a stingray...
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Your sense of humor is grossly out of tune.
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damn not steve..
whats weird though, like a year or more back, i heard a lotof rumours that he died of a snakebite, so im actualy kinda surprised that he just died instead of back then but man, i loved watching his shows, and his appearance on southpark was awesome to :P
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your a bitch. shut the fuck up.
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Feel better passing your judgement on me via text?
I noticed you didnt say anything to the staff member that pretty much echoed my sentiment.
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I saw on the news some guy who had been stung by the same species of sting ray, and was lucky enough to survive.. photo's from a while back during hospitalization were shown... HE HAD A FUCKING HOLE IN HIS LEG!
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Maybe because you singled her out for special treatment when others were also "not paying homage" to an irresponsible cunt?
The difference between this guy and Dimebag is that Dimebag never paraded his kid 6 feet from a crocodile and implored the scaly bastard to take a bite. Michael Jackson hangs his kid over a balcony and gets pilloried while this guy just gets the, "Oh, it's that madcap Steve Irmin again!" bullshit.
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Maybe because you singled her out for special treatment when others were also "not paying homage" to an irresponsible cunt?
The difference between this guy and Dimebag is that Dimebag never paraded his kid 6 feet from a crocodile and implored the scaly bastard to take a bite. Michael Jackson hangs his kid over a balcony and gets pilloried while this guy just gets the, "Oh, it's that madcap Steve Irmin again!" bullshit.
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well regardless of your feelings, you should still have respect for the dead...but i guess your too necro to do that.
your quick to ignore all the good things hes done just because of a few foolish things he did.
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well regardless of your feelings, you should still have respect for the dead...but i guess your too necro to do that.
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your quick to ignore all the good things hes done just because of a few foolish things he did.
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What good things? Clearing landmines in Angola? Brokering the ceasefire in the middle east? The guy endangered the life of his own kid so that puts him right at the bottom of my list of people to mourn.
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The incident with him putting his kid in front of a croc wasnt smart at all, but I still like watching him and respect him for the things he has done.
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What good things? Clearing landmines in Angola? Brokering the ceasefire in the middle east? The guy endangered the life of his own kid so that puts him right at the bottom of my list of people to mourn.
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that just shows how ignorant you are! how can you pass judgement on someone if you are not aware of what hes done. how can you say that he has done NOTHING good.
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He was awesome, i remember when he had surgery done on his knee and all he did was have them numb it and watched them do the surgery. He was a great guy, sure he did a few foolish things in his life, but so have the rest of us. I have the utmost respect for him.
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i read somewhere this dude trained wrestling and some from of jujitsu to deal with crocs, thats fucking badass shit.
mansley. the dude spread an interest in wildlife, granted he didnt do it in the best way and made dumb moves for publicity. he doesntt have to be mother teresa to earn respect, to be acknowledged when he died as someone who meant well.
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The whole nonsense surrounding the "putting his kid in danger" was much ado about nothing. They were in a contained environment and Steve was professional who knew exactly how close he could be without putting his child in danger. You can't make a career out of catching thousands of crocodiles with knowing every single inch of your freedom while dealing with them. It was simply the type of thing that someone in the press said "Holy shit, if we blow this out of proportion it'll be HUGE" like they do with everything regarding celebrities. Fuck, Britney Spears put her baby in more danger than Steve Irwin.
To me, the manner in which he died is incredible. Who the hell gets killed by a stingray? And right in the heart? What are the chances? I think Steve's love for all animals did him in, because it brought him out to animals outside his realm of expertise. He could have worked with crocodilians forever and not have been killed. Shouldn't have given the green light to the sting ray proposal, Steve-O.
However, I'm not as bummed out about it as I would have thought because the guy died doing what he loved. It looks to me as though he lived an awesome life from childhood until his encounter with the sting ray. He got to do what he loved for a living, he made a lot of money, and more importantly, he raised global awareness of wildlife conservation and environmentalism. I wouldn't have minded living his life, even if it meant dying his death. Here's to you, Steve-O!
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Mark O'Shea had the best show on Animal Planet. And the rest of the rest of the planet.
As for Steve dying from a snakebite, yeah, over the years lots of people have spread lots of rumors over the internet. You can generally tell they're morons who didn't know what they were talking about, because their breaking news would look something like- "OMG croc hunTer died tooday he got bit in the eye buy a KING SPITTING KOBRA COMMANDER!"
Also, for the benefit of people who don't already know, snakes nicknamed 2 stepper, 5 stepper, 100 pace snake, or anything putting a time limit on your life are, without exception, asian pit vipers with mild to moderate venom that either A: isn't powerful enough to kill an adult human, or B: would take days to kill a human without the benefit of antivenin and hospital treatment. The only one I can think of that is has any important significance medically is Calloselasma rhodostoma, which does kill some people around Malaysia.
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the most venomous snakes in the world found in australia. that snake doesn't even make the list on a few sites i've gone through. if its related to a copperhead i doubt its the worst one out there..though i could be mistaken.
http://www.reptileallsorts.com/deadliest-snakes.htm
http://manbir-online.com/htm2/snake.22.htm
the most venomous/deadly would be oxyuranus scutellatus..but there haven't been any recorded deaths. on the flip side.. this snake is only found in arid regions that are not very populated...anyone bit out there..dies out there and it doesn't get reported. i think you'd have to corner it ...or accidentally sneak up on it and scare it to have it strike at you.
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that just shows how ignorant you are! how can you pass judgement on someone if you are not aware of what hes done. how can you say that he has done NOTHING good.
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That just shows how ignorant you are! how can you pass judgement on someone if you are not aware of what hes done. how can you say that he has done ANYTHING good.
Spot the difference. I know he endangered his kid's life while he was working. Ask any mother, what they think about a father who would wilflully place their kid in danger for a publicity stunt.
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That just shows how ignorant you are! how can you pass judgement on someone if you are not aware of what hes done. how can you say that he has done ANYTHING good.
Spot the difference. I know he endangered his kid's life while he was working. Ask any mother, what they think about a father who would wilflully place their kid in danger for a publicity stunt.
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so your saying hes done absolutely NOTHING good?
nothing at all, not even his constant acts towards wildlife and environment conservation...?
sure what he did with the baby was bad, but that doesnt mean you should totally ignore everything hes done for the wild life and environment.
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so your saying hes done absolutely NOTHING good?
nothing at all, not even his constant acts towards wildlife and environment conservation...?
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Isn't that part of his (well paid) job as a naturalist? Yay, I'm a good man because I do peoples' tax returns every day!
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sure what he did with the baby was bad, but that doesnt mean you should totally ignore everything hes done for the wild life and environment.
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Why not? Much the same way I've got no respect for Michael Jackson, even though he's done heaps of work for charities and produced some entertaining music.
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i tend to agree with jonh to an extent.
this whole "whorshipping dead celebs" thing is annoying. Steve Irwin could've died in the same exact manner, but had he never been on TV, no one would even know who this guy was and even less people would be mourning his dead.
is, suddenly, being a celeb, a mark of supremacy? shit, last time i checked, he was humans, with all the good and bad things humans have. if i died before him, would he come to the internet and post "what a BEEEEEEEEAUTY!!! shame TTA died!!!"?
holy shit, the only memory i have of him is that he was a dumbass that, for some reason, managed to avoid being eaten by a crocodile/snake/mountain goat for 44 years.
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The difference is, how many people do you know. How many people like you. Majority of Australians know the guy, hence, it is on the news and is getting all this media attention. Obviously people give a shit.
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well, whatever, i guess we'll have to agree to disagree. i cant help but feel your wrong, even though im from the UK and i have no national links etc, i still feel for him man and show respect.
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no you don't. majority of Australians have seen him on TV, probably a couple of times live. how many had dinner with him, engaged in a conversation, shared experiences, traded ideas?
you don't know the guy, you simply know who he is (was), which is a completely different thing.
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celebrity cult in action. he could have lived the life he lived and been the person he was... had he never been on TV, not only the "Majority of Australians" would have no idea how he was but even less would realize he died.
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Isn't that part of his (well paid) job as a naturalist? Yay, I'm a good man because I do peoples' tax returns every day!
Why not? Much the same way I've got no respect for Michael Jackson, even though he's done heaps of work for charities and produced some entertaining music.
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your job and his job are hardly a good comparison. you do your job to get paid...not to help people. you didn't start doing it for less in the beginning because you were a good person. his job helps animals and brings info/enlightenment to people. when he began doing that line of work..it wasn't to be on tv or make big bucks. it was something that fascinated him.
yea he made money and became a celeb...but he was in it for a long time before that so why not continue to do the same? especially if you are making money and becoming famous (thus spreading your ideas even further).
the michael jackson reference sucks too...you lost your respect for him when he did that shit with his baby??!!? i lost all respect for that asshole long before that. also...he didn't dangle his baby over the open mouth of a crocodile like jackson held his baby over the edge of a balcony.
erwin, like ANY human, made some mistakes...the only reason his was made to be such a big deal is because hes a celeb. thats part of the package deal you get when you become famous. everyone is there watching and will instantly spread news of your misfortune/wrong doing/etc.
i don't think a couple lapses in judgement negate the decades of effort he has put into his area of interest.
there are always people jumping on the celebrity mourning bandwagon...but doesn't this happen on the small scale too? how many of you know someone that has died, and then seen people that weren't their friends or never talked to them try and say "ohh we were great friends, i'll miss them forever, i can't believe it!!!"
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Being a celeb isn't 'suddenly' a mark of supremacy.The only different in recent years, and even this is getting to be old hat, is that it's being made increasingly more obvious that people who are famous for absolutely no reason (which wasn't always as easy as it is today) are valued for nothing other than their celebrity.
Anyway, he died harassing animals rather than in the various excruciatingly boring ways most of you will. For that, at least, cheers. The rest I really don't give any more of a shit about than I did when he was alive.
Oh, and when I start banning everybody who calls somebody a dirty word on here, I'll ban Bia too.
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your job and his job are hardly a good comparison. you do your job to get paid...not to help people. you didn't start doing it for less in the beginning because you were a good person. his job helps animals and brings info/enlightenment to people. when he began doing that line of work..it wasn't to be on tv or make big bucks. it was something that fascinated him.
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So Steve Irwin wasn't doing a job for which he was handsomely remunerated? Yeah, OK...
There are vets on TV who do ten times more for animal welfare yet don't get half the money that Irwin did, a hundredth of the recognition and will not be mourned with such reverie.
He's doing his job. If he did it for the love of animals, nobody would ever have heard of him to mourn him as he'd no doubt be working for a charity.
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yea he made money and became a celeb...but he was in it for a long time before that so why not continue to do the same? especially if you are making money and becoming famous (thus spreading your ideas even further).
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I bet you've called Metallica sellouts at some point haven't you? If he was so into it, why didn't he devote all of his time to a charity who no doubt could make use of his expertise? There are so many other ways of bringing animal welfare to the forefront: Have you heard of the RSPCA? Who runs it? I don't know either, yet this animal charity is exceptionally well known.
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the michael jackson reference sucks too...you lost your respect for him when he did that shit with his baby??!!? i lost all respect for that asshole long before that. also...he didn't dangle his baby over the open mouth of a crocodile like jackson held his baby over the edge of a balcony.
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How is my Michael Jackson reference a bad one? Both endangered their respective childrens' lives and arguing over who placed them in the more perilous position is moot.
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erwin, like ANY human, made some mistakes...the only reason his was made to be such a big deal is because hes a celeb. thats part of the package deal you get when you become famous. everyone is there watching and will instantly spread news of your misfortune/wrong doing/etc.
i don't think a couple lapses in judgement negate the decades of effort he has put into his area of interest.
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So you're saying that parading your kid 6 feet from a crocodile is a "lapse in judgement"? It's fucking negligent and irresponsible and would be a tad more serious than a "mistake" if that crocodile had killed his kid.
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there are always people jumping on the celebrity mourning bandwagon...but doesn't this happen on the small scale too? how many of you know someone that has died, and then seen people that weren't their friends or never talked to them try and say "ohh we were great friends, i'll miss them forever, i can't believe it!!!"
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Of course it happens on the small scale - nobody denied that it didn't - but do you know what I'd do to those people? I'd tell them to fuck off and save their crocodile tears for somebody that they actually knew in person.
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no you don't. majority of Australians have seen him on TV, probably a couple of times live. how many had dinner with him, engaged in a conversation, shared experiences, traded ideas?
you don't know the guy, you simply know who he is (was), which is a completely different thing.
celebrity cult in action. he could have lived the life he lived and been the person he was... had he never been on TV, not only the "Majority of Australians" would have no idea how he was but even less would realize he died.
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how many of you know someone that has died, and then seen people that weren't their friends or never talked to them try and say "ohh we were great friends, i'll miss them forever, i can't believe it!!!"
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This always happens. This summer my friend got killed in a car accedent and there were a bunch of people at his funeral that he hated. It was kind of disgusting knowing that my dead friend would have personally wanted to kick their asses for being there.
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I always felt that the animals came second place on his nature program at times after his 'Jackass TV' style antics. I find nature and animals fascinating enough on their own with out a manically elated stereo type in khaki shorts pouncing on them and poking them so they'll point their poisoness or sharp bits at the camera. Yet again it's a sign of the under stimulated play station generation who can't watch something unless the host sounds like an amphetamine fuelled attention seeker with a death wish.
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Isn't that part of his (well paid) job as a naturalist? Yay, I'm a good man because I do peoples' tax returns every day!
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So Steve Irwin wasn't doing a job for which he was handsomely remunerated? Yeah, OK...
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Steve did make a lot of money, I'm not sure how much, but I feel confident to say it was a lot. He also died doing what he loved, and lived a terrific life so I don't feel bad for him (nor should anyone), I feel bad for his family. He did not get into this for the money, though, nobody gets into biology or wildlife conservation for money. He got tremendously lucky.
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There are vets on TV who do ten times more for animal welfare yet don't get half the money that Irwin did, a hundredth of the recognition and will not be mourned with such reverie.
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What vets do on TV is nothing, and I'll explain why. The word they are spreading is intended to end inhumane treatment of domestic animals. This is 100% insignificant in several ways- 1. everyone who neglects or abuses domestic animals already knows what they are doing is very wrong and are going to do it anyway, 2. despite the fact that animal abuse bothers me, it doesn't hurt this planet or mankind in any way.
Contrarily, what Steve did (and other TV conservations continue to do just as well as Steve) informed a largely ignorant public of the plight of WILD animals, animals whose populations, once decimated, won't come back. It's important to conserve wildlife and habitat because if it disappears, so do we. That's so much more important than making sure Bertha the cat lady feeds all 110 of her kitties.
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He's doing his job. If he did it for the love of animals, nobody would ever have heard of him to mourn him as he'd no doubt be working for a charity.
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It's a full time job. You can't do what he did for charity or you'll never eat. Most of us will never make more money than to pay for our own expenses, Steve just got lucky. He had an intense charisma and enthusiasm that translated well to TV, and if he could make money while doing something good for the planet, why not?
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I bet you've called Metallica sellouts at some point haven't you? If he was so into it, why didn't he devote all of his time to a charity who no doubt could make use of his expertise? There are so many other ways of bringing animal welfare to the forefront: Have you heard of the RSPCA? Who runs it? I don't know either, yet this animal charity is exceptionally well known.
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Again, John, animal rights and animals conservancy are two completely different entities. Conservationists are generally level science minded people who study ecology and understand the intricate balance of nature and how mankind itself relies on the stability of that balance in order to survive. Animal rights activists are often good people, but are just often over emotional weirdos who cry and call me a murderer because I eat a cheeseburger. They don't understand science as well, and put lesser animals above people by affording them rights they don't deserve and trying to rob humans of our own niche in the food chain.
I'm totally against cruelty perpetrated against animals, but I distance myself as far as possible from animal rights activism.
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How is my Michael Jackson reference a bad one? Both endangered their respective childrens' lives and arguing over who placed them in the more perilous position is moot.
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I'll reiterate again that I've seen the video and Steve was clearly calm, in control, and knew what he was doing the whole time. You can't work with such dangerous animals without gaining a completely intimate knowledge of every single inch you have to work with. Having seen it, I was never once under the impression that the child was in even a tiny bit of danger, and clearly his wife- who I think we can agree is a bit more orthodox than Steve- didn't think so, either. Wouldn't you take your kids away from some crazy nut who tries to feed them to a crocodile?
It was more of media blowing things out of proportion, and because very few people can relate to Steve's knowledge and would themselves have no clue how to deal with such a situation, they automatically transpose that same ignorance onto Steve, therefore assuming he was being negligent in the handling of his own child. That is simply incorrect.
I've seen a lot of my heroes die prematurely, a lot of people I've wanted to meet before I die. I can honestly say I feel the least sorry for Steve because of how he lived and all the stuff he got to do. I felt a bit more for guys like Chuck Shuldiner and Eddie Guerrero... Chuck because he was, by all accounts, a nice and brilliant man and terrific musician who was taken away by something that he saw coming and could do nothing to stop. Eddie was a completely difference story altogether that I'll spare you- if you know wrestling, you already know why so many die young, if you don't, you don't care.
I'd also like to share something that the vast majority of people who have seen Steve's show would not had noticed- Steve's handling of snakes differed vastly from that normally employed by herpetologists. Steve seemed to have sixth sense as it relates to having a feel for what mood the snakes were in and what they were about to do next. He had a way of free handling dangerous toxic reptiles and capturing them that no other herpetologist would be willing to try. The standard way to handle venomous snakes is in a very restrained way- you hold them in a very specific way behind the head so that they can't reach around and bite you. Despite careful handling, 99.99% of all herpetologists are bitten by dangerously venomous snakes at some point in their career. Steve, despite his refusal to restrain these animals, was never bitten, at least, up until around 2003, I lost track of his career after that without my cable TV. Steve seemed to share a soul with the animals he understood, to the point where he knew exactly what they were going to, it was eerily uncanny. That's what made him stand out to me.
For the record, my favorite guy is British herpetologist Mark O'Shea, who also has done TV.
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Originally Posted by Chris Rezendes
Steve did make a lot of money, I'm not sure how much, but I feel confident to say it was a lot. He also died doing what he loved, and lived a terrific life so I don't feel bad for him (nor should anyone), I feel bad for his family. He did not get into this for the money, though, nobody gets into biology or wildlife conservation for money. He got tremendously lucky.
What vets do on TV is nothing, and I'll explain why. The word they are spreading is intended to end inhumane treatment of domestic animals. This is 100% insignificant in several ways- 1. everyone who neglects or abuses domestic animals already knows what they are doing is very wrong and are going to do it anyway, 2. despite the fact that animal abuse bothers me, it doesn't hurt this planet or mankind in any way.
Contrarily, what Steve did (and other TV conservations continue to do just as well as Steve) informed a largely ignorant public of the plight of WILD animals, animals whose populations, once decimated, won't come back. It's important to conserve wildlife and habitat because if it disappears, so do we. That's so much more important than making sure Bertha the cat lady feeds all 110 of her kitties.
It's a full time job. You can't do what he did for charity or you'll never eat. Most of us will never make more money than to pay for our own expenses, Steve just got lucky. He had an intense charisma and enthusiasm that translated well to TV, and if he could make money while doing something good for the planet, why not?
Again, John, animal rights and animals conservancy are two completely different entities. Conservationists are generally level science minded people who study ecology and understand the intricate balance of nature and how mankind itself relies on the stability of that balance in order to survive. Animal rights activists are often good people, but are just often over emotional weirdos who cry and call me a murderer because I eat a cheeseburger. They don't understand science as well, and put lesser animals above people by affording them rights they don't deserve and trying to rob humans of our own niche in the food chain.
I'm totally against cruelty perpetrated against animals, but I distance myself as far as possible from animal rights activism.
I'll reiterate again that I've seen the video and Steve was clearly calm, in control, and knew what he was doing the whole time. You can't work with such dangerous animals without gaining a completely intimate knowledge of every single inch you have to work with. Having seen it, I was never once under the impression that the child was in even a tiny bit of danger, and clearly his wife- who I think we can agree is a bit more orthodox than Steve- didn't think so, either. Wouldn't you take your kids away from some crazy nut who tries to feed them to a crocodile?
It was more of media blowing things out of proportion, and because very few people can relate to Steve's knowledge and would themselves have no clue how to deal with such a situation, they automatically transpose that same ignorance onto Steve, therefore assuming he was being negligent in the handling of his own child. That is simply incorrect.
I've seen a lot of my heroes die prematurely, a lot of people I've wanted to meet before I die. I can honestly say I feel the least sorry for Steve because of how he lived and all the stuff he got to do. I felt a bit more for guys like Chuck Shuldiner and Eddie Guerrero... Chuck because he was, by all accounts, a nice and brilliant man and terrific musician who was taken away by something that he saw coming and could do nothing to stop. Eddie was a completely difference story altogether that I'll spare you- if you know wrestling, you already know why so many die young, if you don't, you don't care.
I'd also like to share something that the vast majority of people who have seen Steve's show would not had noticed- Steve's handling of snakes differed vastly from that normally employed by herpetologists. Steve seemed to have sixth sense as it relates to having a feel for what mood the snakes were in and what they were about to do next. He had a way of free handling dangerous toxic reptiles and capturing them that no other herpetologist would be willing to try. The standard way to handle venomous snakes is in a very restrained way- you hold them in a very specific way behind the head so that they can't reach around and bite you. Despite careful handling, 99.99% of all herpetologists are bitten by dangerously venomous snakes at some point in their career. Steve, despite his refusal to restrain these animals, was never bitten, at least, up until around 2003, I lost track of his career after that without my cable TV. Steve seemed to share a soul with the animals he understood, to the point where he knew exactly what they were going to, it was eerily uncanny. That's what made him stand out to me.
For the record, my favorite guy is British herpetologist Mark O'Shea, who also has done TV.
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