2006-08-24, 00:20
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Building a huge cross, need to find a way to erect it
ok so me and my old band mates are building a freaking huge cross (approx 12 feet tall) and need some way to support it so it will stand up
the other band members have a bit of know how when it comes to this stuff, but im clueless
but anyways, we need a quick simple solution which will allow this cross to stand tall and free
plz respond fast as the show we are using this for is on friday!
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so i guess its kinda nice for leads but i thought it sucked ass for soloing
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2006-08-24, 00:39
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Maybe you could just put part of the bottom section nside a large cement block? Or hang it up from the ceiling?
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2006-08-24, 00:50
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Ever seen those portable basketball goals that are 10 feet tall and easy to move? Get one, take the backboard and goal off, and attach the cross to it.
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2006-08-24, 02:32
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Ever seen those portable basketball goals that are 10 feet tall and easy to move? Get one, take the backboard and goal off, and attach the cross to it.
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Compare these people to the norm, say, Muhammed Suiçmez for instance who seems to think that lots of poorly strung together riffs spaced awkwardly around fancy monotonous sweeps covers up the fact that his ideas and songs are really quit boring.
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2006-08-24, 02:36
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Wait a sec....if he is planning to hang this thing upside down, would that change anything? How much will it aproximately weigh when it is completed?
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Compare these people to the norm, say, Muhammed Suiçmez for instance who seems to think that lots of poorly strung together riffs spaced awkwardly around fancy monotonous sweeps covers up the fact that his ideas and songs are really quit boring.
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2006-08-24, 02:46
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Upside down or right side up makes no difference as long as it is balanced a bit. There will be no problem with light materials.
Unless they plan to build the thing out of railroad ties it should hold the weight easy. It is just a starting base. There will be details to work out and the ideal will have to be engineered a little, like how to attach the cross, but I think it will work out the best.
Unless anyone has a better ideal.
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2006-08-24, 02:49
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Hmm...I suppose so. That is a pretty good idea. It would be mighty cool if you could post pictures of the final result Necro_Butcher.
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2006-08-24, 02:51
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Yup, I would like to see it too
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2006-08-24, 02:53
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2006-08-24, 02:55
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Lol, I don't know. A right side up one would really throw everyone. I'd do it
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2006-08-24, 02:56
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yeah but an upside down 12 foot cross would be hilarious
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2006-08-24, 03:29
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2006-08-24, 03:29
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2006-08-24, 03:37
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ok to clarify some things
-the ceiling of the venue is way too high to hang anything from
-the cross will be upright (we have a skeleton to hang on it)
-the basketball thing is a great idea, ill see if i can track down one
-this would probably weigh about 50 lbs all total
but incase i can't. i need more suggestions, keep them coming ppl
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so i guess its kinda nice for leads but i thought it sucked ass for soloing
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2006-08-24, 03:42
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...lean it against a wall?
So are you bulding a church or something?
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2006-08-24, 03:44
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i dont think the leaning against a wall will work in this situation, the just the way the venue is setup.....
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so i guess its kinda nice for leads but i thought it sucked ass for soloing
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2006-08-24, 06:17
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Get the bassist to hold it
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2006-08-24, 09:55
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2006-08-24, 14:07
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Get the bassist to hold it
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HAHA yes. You gotta take a picture of it once it's all set up man. maybe get your gig on video
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2006-08-24, 15:16
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Unless it will show embarrasingly much, you might construct it like a stage props; i.e. attach a board as broad as the base of the cross to the... well, the base of the cross, as long as is necessary to balance it and then a diaganol support or two. I don't know how many times me and my group got away with that kind of thing.
However, I'd prefer Soul's idea anyday were it an option.
Good luck with the gig, and don't forget the duct tape.
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2006-08-24, 18:44
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better yet, get some random bare-chested friend to drag it on stage, and the vocalist should flog him with a whip while he is dragging it.
Then let him lie on the ground on the cross, and pretend to drive the nails into his hands with a pink doublesided dildo
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2006-08-24, 19:02
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an upside down cross would be easier to balance. (lower center of gravity) but if you must have it right side up..and assuming it will be behind everything (ie you won't be able to see the base)...just build a few 45 degree angled supports. you could even put one on each side for maximum stability.
another way would be mount some eye hooks (i think they are called) in the bag and use a black cable (or whatever would blend in to not be seen) and tie it to some rafters or something.
or just get a decently thick and wide flat board for a base...position the cross base in the center of the board..drive a huge nail or nails into the cross through the base board and then everyone just help out to lift/pull and then it will be set.
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2006-08-24, 19:31
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Ahhhh, I can tell you children aren't carpenters at all, for you've missed the most logically easiest stand structure possible......
Assuming you've used 4x4 wood for the cross--those are fence posts by the way....
Arrange four 2x4s like so, then with wood glue, screw--don't nail--the pieces together. The cross goes in the middle of course.....
Done.
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2006-08-24, 20:26
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Ahhhh, I can tell you children aren't carpenters at all, for you've missed the most logically easiest stand structure possible......
Assuming you've used 4x4 wood for the cross--those are fence posts by the way....
Arrange four 2x4s like so, then with wood glue, screw--don't nail--the pieces together. The cross goes in the middle of course.....
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haha good call...completely forgot about that layout. does the same thing as one of my ideas..but with less wood.
but why wood glue over nails..or even screws?
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2006-08-24, 21:15
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Man I'd just stick the skeleton to it and have it upside down.
That would be cliche' but grim.
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yeah, one night he (BassBehemoth) came with some GHB and he put it in my drink, when i woke up....i lost my hymen....terrible
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2006-08-25, 01:07
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Hahah, cool, post pics when your done. But ya, Soul' idea and powers' idea works good, ad should be easy to do.
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2006-08-26, 00:23
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....but why wood glue over nails..or even screws?
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If you don't want the stand to fall apart, use screws. Wood glue just helps.
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2006-08-26, 01:39
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Use balsa wood to construct it.
that would be light as and much easier to balance.
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2006-08-26, 01:53
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Soul's idea is sounding good. all id add to the though is to make sure it can be held up by the basketball pole's base. those thingsa are made to be filled with water, but you might try filling it woth rocks, if possible. you wouldnt want the cross to fall forward and crush people, even though that would be quite the event of the night.
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2006-08-26, 01:53
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Thats true but I would worry about the cost and the risk of damaging it. Good ideal though. They are going to need something light.
Go with Powers ideal. It is more practical than mine was.
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2006-08-26, 03:06
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Go with Powers ideal. It is more practical than mine was.
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heh, i hadnt seen his, though i thought of something similar when i read the topic.
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2006-08-26, 03:33
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2006-08-26, 04:49
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2006-08-26, 07:01
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Bia is being a smartass, but yes, maybe a pile of real dirt around it would look extra cool
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2006-08-26, 12:11
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put electric christmas tree lights on it
if it's upside down that is..
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Good idea with the Christmas Lights...you could also have upside down Christmas trees, and a homeless guy dressed up as Santa masturbating on the crowd.
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2006-08-26, 15:19
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2006-08-26, 21:57
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2006-08-26, 23:09
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hey dudes
the show was last night
we just ended up leaning the cross against the back wall, it was still a good 12 feet tall
we also attached a sweet morbid looking skeleton to it
and wrote "LOL" on the top of it
ill post pics as soon as i track some down!
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