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Old 2006-05-19, 10:14
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Stupid monk!

I just got back from the snow at Thredbo tonight after a trip.When I was hiking up Mt Kosciusko,I came across a Buddhist monk in a orange robe.I walked past him,and then he turned and stopped me with his hand.
The monk had his arm on my shoulder,and shut his eyes.He then told me that I,am a re-incarnation of the enemy soldier,that blew some kind of grenade near him,and burnt his back in Vietnam.
He showed me these scars,and they looked pretty brutal.He then forgave me for it,and told me the re-incarnation of the soldier that killed my previous incarnation is webbed somewhere in my life,and is/will cause me great harm.
This was one of the most disturbing instances in my life,and even more,I had deja-vu all week of a few events that happend,that I recall dreaming about.What would you make of it?
 
Old 2006-05-19, 10:17
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that the monk was wasted??
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Old 2006-05-19, 10:22
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Old 2006-05-19, 10:25
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I think you should have asked the next person who walked up right behind you if a monk with obvious pychoses had made any ridiculous claims about them. Then, you could have laughed about what the crazy Buddhist said to both of you and gone for a beer.

Also, a person who died in the Vietnam War (killed by another soldier) would have died 20 years before you were born, you dupe.
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Old 2006-05-19, 10:25
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Wow that is scary, maybe you should go like talk to someone about it? Like another Monk or something...
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Old 2006-05-19, 10:28
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well, do you believe in reincarnation? Sure, it sounds silly, but who is to say it doesn't excist?
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Old 2006-05-19, 10:30
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well, do you believe in reincarnation? Sure, it sounds silly, but who is to say it doesn't excist?


ME.

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I can prove to you how the belief was constructed with a paper and pencil in 20 minutes.
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:31
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thats kinda fucked up. im thinking maybe that you looked like the dude in vietnam that this guy got such a traumatic experience with. that is if the monk has seen the dude. just a thought

george carlin had a stand up routine going into reincarnation that was cool. he mentioned the fact that there are more people around nowadays and wondered where all the new souls came from
 
Old 2006-05-19, 12:41
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Dude, he probably uses that line on everyone!
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Old 2006-05-19, 12:45
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may i suggest not thinking about the incident again
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Old 2006-05-19, 13:31
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LOL...reminds me like hell Scenes From A Memory of Dream Theater

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Old 2006-05-19, 13:35
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The deja vu is a mind trick. He planted the idea in your head and since it freaked you out a little, it carried on from there. Why he stopped you? Probably a gut feeling that he wanted to have. Buddhists are all about reaching higher states of peace and humanity. If he had a traumatic experience with an anonymous someone's past incarnation (which he subconsciously chose as you), then to come face to face with that person and forgive them for their horrible deed would be something that takes great control over emotions and shows a lot of peace of mind about past negative experiences. He did this because he wants Buddah to recognize him as a very forgiving man. Whether or not it really happened, I think this is all it is. As the saying goes, "If you think elves cause rain, then every time it rains you'll see proof of elves' existence". Don't let someone's religious beliefs and its vague connection to real life fool you. There's an explanation for everything -- so never jump to conclusions if you can't be sure. And never let a thought run too long. Because then you'll just reassure your idea with every little thing that happens, even though those little things will in reality have nothing to do with your idea. The point is, I don't think this is anything to worry about. At all.
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Old 2006-05-19, 15:20
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Hi, my names Jaush, and I believe in - Re-Incarnation!

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Old 2006-05-19, 16:53
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Wow, that's weird, I'd have probably kicked his ass and shouted "GRENADE!" at him until he went away.
 
Old 2006-05-19, 17:27
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Thats an interesting thing to have happened. Even if you believe in reincarnation it shouldn't bother you - he's just telling you what you already know. He is also placing meaning on the inevitable that someone is going to hurt you. Someone is always going to hurt you (or at least try).
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Old 2006-05-19, 18:10
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He did this because he wants Buddah to recognize him as a very forgiving man. Whether or not it really happened, I think this is all it is.

im going to go with this too. may not be the entire truth/explanation, but it sounds like something a monk would do. monk(ey) lololozzz
 
Old 2006-05-20, 04:22
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well, do you believe in reincarnation? Sure, it sounds silly, but who is to say it doesn't excist?

Nah,Im not into spiritual beliefs,though I do admire the buddhist's outlook on life.
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Also, a person who died in the Vietnam War (killed by another soldier) would have died 20 years before you were born, you dupe.

Yeah,I thought of that.I was thinking re-incarnation didnt occur right after the time of death.
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Thats an interesting thing to have happened. Even if you believe in reincarnation it shouldn't bother you - he's just telling you what you already know. He is also placing meaning on the inevitable that someone is going to hurt you. Someone is always going to hurt you (or at least try).

Very true,though with the circumstances,its hard not to give it another thought.He had an apprentice with him,too.Also the way to stopped me,he looked like he was watching me from afar.I kind of knew he was going to talk to me.Also,he was wearing no footing in the snow,but only a orange robe within 500 meters of the summit,which is the highest elevation in Australia and was bloody cold.
Also,the comments about him 'wanting' to forgive me,sound interesting.Thats what I would like to beleive.
 
Old 2006-05-20, 23:48
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ME.

I SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST.

I can prove to you how the belief was constructed with a paper and pencil in 20 minutes.


I don't realy believe in reincarnation, but reality and believe is a subjective thing.
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Old 2006-05-21, 05:54
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As the saying goes, "If you think elves cause rain, then every time it rains you'll see proof of elves' existence". Don't let someone's religious beliefs and its vague connection to real life fool you. There's an explanation for everything -- so never jump to conclusions if you can't be sure.

My brother believes that the number 72 comes up more than any other number. Now every time he sees it or 27, or those two numbers side by side in another larger number, he says "LOOK! Seventy-two!" Which I say to him after something along the lines of "Shut Up." or "You're an Idiot."
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Old 2006-05-21, 10:43
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Yeah that is kinda strange, i thought he would've tried to kill you or something.

But still i don't really know how if it happened to me i could believe it.
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Old 2006-05-21, 12:07
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On a related note,I bought some bonsai seedlings to try out,as he suggested.They are hard work but should be fun.
 
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My brother believes that the number 72 comes up more than any other number. Now every time he sees it or 27, or those two numbers side by side in another larger number, he says "LOOK! Seventy-two!" Which I say to him after something along the lines of "Shut Up." or "You're an Idiot."


he got it all wrong, it's the number 23!

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Yeah that is kinda strange, i thought he would've tried to kill you or something.


if you'd think that, you never met any budhists
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Old 2006-05-21, 16:48
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Mr. Filth is not one of our smarter members.

No reason to freak out about this. Either he's

a) somewhat deranged, in which case you shouldn't be more bothered by him than by the bums who drop trou on a crowded subway (actually much less, I should think);
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b) completely in earnest, but nevertheless wrong, in which case you can laugh it off;
or
c) you're actually the reincarnated spirit of some soldier who fought in Vietnam, in which case it should be a priority to be forgiven for the misdeeds 'you' committed there, which, if you didn't notice, you've already done.

In any case I wouldn't sweat this shit. And the claim that somebody in your life is going to do harm to you is like claiming that it's going to be snowy on the Brooks Range in Alaska, and sunnier in Southern California. Just think, the next time something happens to you that upsets or hurts you in some way, that it was the spirit of the reincarnated soldier who killed 'you' and get on with your life.

Though, to be perfectly honest, enemies in one life being reincarnated into another and remaining enemies seems more like a work of fiction than any functional religious reincarnation belief I know of. Borges and tigers and Dead Again - oh my!
 
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On a related note,I bought some bonsai seedlings to try out,as he suggested.They are hard work but should be fun.


I love it. You get a lecture on your crazy, hostile old soul... and gardening tips. This man was/is/will come back as a complete fruitcake.

Anything else you left out? He didn't happen to lend you a pair of pink legwarmers as well, did he?
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Yeah that is kinda strange, i thought he would've tried to kill you or something.



yeah me too, thats normally how monks handle these situations
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Though, to be perfectly honest, enemies in one life being reincarnated into another and remaining enemies seems more like a work of fiction than any functional religious reincarnation belief I know of. Borges and tigers and Dead Again - oh my!

Sounds to me like the plot to Highlander.
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Something like it, yeah, though Highlander doesn't really have reincarnation.
 
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Something like it, yeah, though Highlander doesn't really have reincarnation.

Oh ya. I forgot. There just immortal.
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Old 2006-05-21, 22:11
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A monk once asked Chuck Norris if his real name is "Charles". Chuck Norris did not respond, he simply stared at him until he exploded.


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Old 2006-05-22, 07:55
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Anything else you left out? He didn't happen to lend you a pair of pink legwarmers as well, did he?

Dont be silly,monks dont wear leg warmers.
 
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yeah me too, thats normally how monks handle these situations

Some guy saying your a nazi who blew him up with a grenade or something must be nutty enough to try and kill you.
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Yeah. I hate those damn Nazis who fought in Vietnam. Those goddamn Nazis, always oppressing the Buddhists.

The only danger you're in when confronted by a Buddhist monk who was apparently involved in Vietnam is that his self-immolation might spread.

Side note: this would have made you a North Vietnamese soldier, right? Seems likeliest to me, but he may have specified.
 
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Maybe the monk is still there and he can go back and ask him.
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Side note: this would have made you a North Vietnamese soldier, right? Seems likeliest to me, but he may have specified.

So I would figure he implied that,he didnt specify it,though.Though,he did say napalm,and I didnt think the commo's had access to it.
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Maybe the monk is still there and he can go back and ask him.

Haha!Even if he was still sitting in the snow in the Australian alps,its too far for me to go back.
 
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What I think of it:

coincidence and the effects of religion on people.


EDIT: Hmm did he by any chance ask for money?

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Just out of curiosity, but what made you think he was a monk? His garments?
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Mr. Filth is not one of our smarter members.

PST is one of our members who can't see a joke.

God dammit do you lot take everything everyone says literally?

I met a buddhist once he gave loads of these weird books and gave my mate a slice of cake.
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I wasn't saying that based on what you just said but rather on every other post you've contributed to the forum. Though I suppose the weakness and pointlessness of the joke also got to me. Nothing is automatically forgiven because 'Oh ho ho, I was joking.'

The VC didn't really have napalm (though I wouldn't be surprised if they got some off of the various planes they downed), so it does seem more likely that you were a GI. But the GIs aren't nearly as likely to have targeted Buddhists as the soldiers of any Communist country whatsoever. Which means you probably hurt him inadvertently. I mean, pretending that you did any of this at all.
 
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Hehehe i wasn't asking for anyone to forgive me, i was pointing out that i didn't literally mean what i had said previously.
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Old 2006-05-24, 11:57
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The VC didn't really have napalm (though I wouldn't be surprised if they got some off of the various planes they downed), so it does seem more likely that you were a GI. But the GIs aren't nearly as likely to have targeted Buddhists as the soldiers of any Communist country whatsoever. Which means you probably hurt him inadvertently. I mean, pretending that you did any of this at all.

Thats cool,I didnt want to be a Vietcong.
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Just out of curiosity, but what made you think he was a monk? His garments?

He said he was a monk.He looked like one too.But he came across as one none the less.

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