the abraxas foundation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abraxas_Foundation


whenever, i read about this, it makes me think of the matrix. "humans aren't, they are a virus...." or bill hicks saying "humans are a virus with fuckin shoes," which in many cases, is true. what are your thoughts on this radical philosophy? this should be an interesting topic. oh yea, talk about boyd rice if ya want to.

The philosophy is a bit... strange. When I read it, my immediate reaction was "stooooooooopid". I read it again, and maybe, in theory much of his ideology could work. He just gets a tad radical and fantasises some stupid world. So if you follow his philosophy you are considered 'elite'. Considered elite by who? A group of retarded skinheads.

Boyd Rice is quite a character aswell. Read about the rotoguitar... WTF? I can't even begin to imagine how that would work. So yeah, the abraxas foundation isn't my thing ey.

heh, almost sounds like some stupid 'elite' blackmetal heads i know.

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humans dont need to find a way to depopulate the planet, nature has always and will always take care of itself when things get out of balance

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Yep, but isn't that kind of the problem in this case? A house being levelled by an earth quake also balances out, in a way.

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It sounds a lot like the elitism of black metallers and seems to be born out of the same principles. This stuff is always somewhat attractive, given that it satisfies both a desire to be elite and seems to propose a solution to such problems as the obviously piss-poor management of the world and the fact that there are so many idiots in it, but it also gets boring and dumb quickly. Very boring and very dumb, especially as you meet most of the so-called 'elites,' the boring disciple types with an intense fascination with the character and ideas of some willful writer.

We don't really need to be aiming towards depopulation to achieve that end, anyway. Malthus wasn't exactly right, but we're still barrelling towards a breaking point on multiple fields. But that just is; there doesn't need to be an organization around it. These guys sound like old school Communist vanguards who believed both that the revolution was inevitable and that it had to be brought about by force.

I'm not realy that knowledgable on old-Bolsjewist rethoric, but wasn't the whole point that cause for the inevitability being that the prole's were going to use force sooner or later?

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That.

Anyone who think they're 1337 enough to start a society concerning with how everyone should be subjugated by the 1337s is, by definition, not 1337.

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also there is america that can help by nuking countries

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I thought this was going to be about Vile's Depopulate album .

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Please enligthen me - 1337?

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OMG i FKKING H8 AMERKA!!!!

Anyway, all social Darwinists are morons and missed Darwin's point of the term "fittest."

1337 is hacker speak for 'leet', which is elite

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I didn't mean that force wouldn't be involved in bringing about the revolution, but that it would be initiated by the proletariat, not forced upon them.

Good job forcing the word 'jew' in 'Bolshevik,' though.

i see the problem with "who is elite" and "who isn't" but that isnt the main concern. the problem is that there are too many people, according to the philosophy, and it's jsut about depopulation, not who is depopulated.

racisim isn't the main purpose, however, it isn't shunned upon if that is the method used for killing people. also, boyd rice happens to be against mescegonation....

that's just the dutch spelling of the word

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lmao

Norways pop is going down

hah i wondered...

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It's sad.

Every government could get together in a long term planning of economic and social effects of the following plan. Everyone could then join together in the venture of having one child per familiy. The resulting disbalance between old and young could be overcome with aforesaid careful planning and would only be temporary in a larger perspective. We could end up with a population of maybe 2 or 3 billlions.

Could and would. It's sad.

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that isnt pragmatic, especially with the number of catholics around

Then cheers to the Dutch.

The chaos the pressure cooker is going to spew in my future is quite exciting and one of many reasons I will bear no children ever.

the idea of "lessening the population" is sick.

Kill lots and lots of people. idiotic. why do that when everyone can have just one kid for a few generations like the guy 3 posts before me said so.

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Having one child per family is not always an option. Are you suggesting that for twins, the mother has to choose which one gets put up for adoption? Or what if it was a daughter? if she married then one family would eventually cease to be.

Anyway just nit picking. Isnt there a similar scheme in China? i could have sworn theres one country with limits on how many children you can have.

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yep its china

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there was a strict one child policy in place but that led to some problems as all good ideas in theory do

now its one child, second child is taxed heavily

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Haha, wow. Child tax.

considering more than halve of the people on Earth are Chinese, it's not realy that bad an idea.

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China's 'one child per family' policy is creating an imbalance between the ratio of males to females as male offspring are usually preferred to female offspring. Many daughters are often simply discarded after birth by those who cannot afford the child tax.

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Correct. There's nothing more joyful than a Chinese orphanage.

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Therein comes the problem, too. Without penalties, large masses of people won't obey a plan, and it doesn't matter how good or even utterly necessary for their own survival it is. That is always the problem, and wet elitist-dreams won't solve it, for the simple reason that they, just as any type of ruling body, need to apply system to apply an idea.
System is force is tension. What you might call a double eged problem. Or even one of them 22's.

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