well i hope hardcore sure poses more of a challenge! i'm playing something else by now. anytime i have the opportunity to get several games for free, i take advantage of it. in other words, xmas means i'm busy on the new games front for a month or two afterwards, haha. just don't cry when i show your pansy ass up next time! ..hrm where's the threatening-looking smiley on here...hehehe.

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The people of sony are amazing.

I had a PSP and it broke so this morning I rang them and I'm expecting my replacement to be delivered to me TOMORROW MORNING.

THAT is customer fucking service.

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Holy christ, why do so many rpg's have the same story..."All is fine in the world, oh wait...there is another realm that is dying...all hell breaks loose in the current with vines going all over the place..they have to save both realms."

And it always comes down to some big religious ceremony gone wrong.


They need to make a "real world" rpg more like Earthbound. THAT WAS DA BOMB YO.

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What game are you talking about?

Update: I'm at like 55 hours in FF12 and i'm fairly close to the end. I spent nearly 12 hours just fucking leveling up, getting money, and getting LP points. Heres a hint to anybody playing or gonna play it, when you get the chance to buy these 2 accessories.. FUCKING BUY THEM.

I bought 6 golden amulet. These double LP points. THe cool thing is you can equip it on characters that AREN"T active and they double their points gained. Word. Also when you go to a boss battle you don't gain any experience but a large chunk of LP> So equip it on all 6 characters for mucho LP. Word up.

I then bought the most important of all. 3 Embroidered Tippets. These double experience. I wish i would have fucking thought to save money and buy these cause they aren't expensive but they have saved me so much fucking time. Basically at any time you have 3 characters active they will have these on it.

I've gone up levels like crazy in obviously half the time. With the 2 of those items goin my characters are getting ridiculous. I have WAY too much LP points that i don't even know what to do with em. I have like 300-400 on each character now and basically every thing i wanted for each character has been gotten already so now its just like ???? what to do with the shit.

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Dragon Warrior 7, Grandia 1-3, Suikoden III among others..

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my roommate is trying to buy a wii but EVERYWHERE here is all sold out. whats worse is that they don't know when they are getting more in!? how the fuck do these people keep their companies going? you'd figure if someone you sell was selling very well to the point you had no more, the first thing you'd do is order more asap! AT LEAST they should know if there are hold ups outside their control that are causing them not to be getting more in soon, or something..anything!

What about Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas? I was under the impression it was an RPG?

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I never really played FF but i have played diablo 2 a lot and recently quit WoW. not exactly consoles but whatever.

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I would consider GTA to be like an action rpg. Definately not a standard issue rpg but i'd call it one.

Xgraf. They're not THAT hard to get. The problem is, is when a system comes out it takes awhile for the market demand to level out with supply. Trust me even the industrial might of nintendo can't keep up with demand, but thats called economics. It'll be a little while before ou can freely walk into a store and buy a wii without problems. Hell they only have like 10 games still so.. hah I know PLENTY of people with wiis now. I only know of one kid who has a ps3 and he also has an xbox 360 and a wii and hes like 14.. so yeah you can pick up a few things about that family....


BassB. Yeah i know what you mean. Its kind of just tweaks in the story and all that which distinguishes it. But i mean its kind of a groundless battle to complain about it, because as i see it what else would be interesting enough to play? I mean why make a fantasy game with special magic powers and strength and all that if you're .. i don't know throwing papers to doorsteps? haha Bad reference but i mean what would you prefer?

Even earthbound has a plot similar to that. But i guess i could be completely misreading what you mean haha.

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The only FF I've ever played is 10, and I recently bought it again from ebay.

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Well thats a decient one to start out on.

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my favorite is 3 for snes and 8. 8 was a little different than the rest so it was cool. 7 is pretty bitchen also.

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I like your style... 8 was different and very cool as a result. And 3 is probably my favorite, then 10.

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Three is right behind Seven, in my book. I have been playing three on the nintendo DS and they upgraded it so much.

Finally Beat FF12. Took over 62 hours. Although fucking almost 4 of that shit was attempting to get the items needed to get the best staff in the game. It was fucking ridiculous.

But my characters by the time i got to the end were SO fucking pumped up it was ridiculous. I had a ridiculously tough 3 person team that was just literally fucking unstoppable. You're supposed to be around like 40-45ish. I was like 55-60ish on all charaters. Not only that but i had 3 characters with REALLY strong weapons (one of which with that staff)

They were hitting for like 4500 everytime haha. I was killin shit in like 2 hits. It was almost sad how bad i destroyed in the final boss.

So here comes the quick critique. I wish the would have been longer (i know 60 hours seems crazy long but... it went by seemingly quick). Also i think the end of hte game was right on. It wasn't TOO FUCKING LONG like every other rpg to the point where you REALLY don't want to attempt to complete the last area and last 20 zillion bosses. It was a little TOO quick, but it was good. I was ready to beat the game. Overall i really really liked FF12.

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ooh finaly fantaty took me maybe 60+ hours to finish the first time arundfd

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The first one? That one took me under 8 hours.

What the fuck are ou talking about drunkard. haha

I realized that on FF7 i beat the entire came mastering every piece of materia and completing EVERYTHING. And i literally do mean everything. And it took 56 hours.

This was ridiculous hours of mastering shit like Knights of Round table materia.. That shit took for fucking EVER.

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Rainbow Six Vegas is awesome. If only the 360 didn't fucking freeze!!!

Goddamn M$

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Funny you mention games freezing. I was playing Grandia III earlier for at least 30 minutes without saving and the godamn thing froze...

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FUCKING OUCH.

Thats why alto of times when i was playing FF12 i would play for like an hour and be like i NEED TO FUCKING SAVE.... usually when i was leveling up. Because if you ever play the game basically you can like do chain kills and it allows you better loot and what not. Basically killing the same kind of creature adds up or whatever. If you kill fucking like 100 of something it takes like a fucking hour or so.

Lucky for me the semi later PS2s are sturdy and trustable as fuck. I've never had one problem EVER with my ps2. And i mean not the slightest tinest problem. The ps2 is probably the best system made yet.

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I hate it when the game freezes. You're saving every now and then, and you have the auto save on, and right when you slack off, it freezes like an hour after the last time you save.

I always had that problem on KOTOR 2, and it would only happen on Nar Shaddaa. Freakiest thing happened one time; I was in the refugee sector, but it didn't freeze. Instead, I couldn't get back to the landing pad area, and even though I didn't have solo mode on my party members wouldn't follow me. To top it off, my action button wouldn't do anything; wouldn't open containers, talk to people. Freaky, but it was still irritating. Had to start it over, and I had just turned Atton into a Dark Jedi.

Damn you, Gates.

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its not a gates problem fool. I'm becoming much aware to computer issues. This is a SOFTWARE issue and NOT a gates issue. not to mention if it has anything to do with windows it has to do with POOR usage and management. But this has to do with a bug in the game. So go blame lucas arts and not windows. Punk.

Windows is constantly being designed for less changeability by people like you. (everyone) who knows little about computers and is completely at fault ofr messing them up.

Sorry i know i attack you alot CTL but you gotta STOP setting yourself up.
Pls..

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As far as the 360 goes...they REALLY REALLY should have ironed out the stability and heat issues before they released the system.

Now they are talking of re-releasing it with a new processor with a 65nm semi-conductor (basically what the chip is perched on top of) and it is ''supposed'' to deal with the heat issues.

Dammit...I wanna play GoW online...but not if its gonna break!!!

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I dare not blame Lucas Arts. Such an act is heresy!

Actually, the right people to blame would be Obsidian. Their rush to get it finished probably led to the bugs in the game. Ugh. Just like Halo 2.

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Mmmm, I meant FF10.

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I'm probably just shotoing in the dark, but is there anyone else here who plays any of the Gundam gamesout for PS2? If so, I'm losing track of some of the games that are out. Has Gihren's Ambition been released in America yet because I haven't seen it anywhere.

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I'm not sure how long it took me to beat it the first time. But i most definately got most of the final weapons and what not. I don't think i spent 60 hours by any means the first time around. The 2nd time around when i was playing not long ago i did all that and way more in much much much less time.

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There is one fucking thing i can not do as it relates to video games. I can not play a first person shooter on my parents big screen tv for more than like 15 minutes. I started playing Metroid prime and i just got completely motion sick. The same shit happened when i played Halo 2 on it like last year. UGH.

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Gah...this is pissing me off so much. Armed Assualt, the sequel to one of my favourite games of all time (Operation Flashpoint) is out, but since I have a shitty laptop I can't play the game. Every time I try to play the demo my craptop overheats on me.

*Sigh*. Console gamers always get left out when it comes to milsim games.



Is your 360 a launch one? I got mine in March and I never have any real problems. I've heard MS extended the warranty on 360s, so if you're having problems you could get try to get it fixed.

Yeah, apparently MS are releasing a "super" version of the 360 - with HDMI, a new processor and a 160gb hard-drive. The 65nm processor will probably also be introduced in standard 360 models.

HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD OF THIS GAME? (just looked it up) Flashpoint is definately my favorite first person shooter EVER. For obvious reasons.. haha

But after looking it up i gotta get it. It looks exactly what i want to play. I got a bunch of Marine and plane addons for flashpoint. I made some seriously kick ass missions where you called in like air support and all of a sudden you would have an F-18 on your team that you could scope out tanks with binos and watch them drop bombs on them. It was freaking sweet.

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I don't have one yet. I'm pretty broke ATM. However, my homie has one and I have seen firsthand the monotony that occurs with it (cannot read disc...blah blah) and I've read LOTS of horror stories online as well as seen vids.

I guess it best to wait so they can iron out the issues....damn M$


Too bad...I wanna fuck people up in gears of war and rainbow six online so bad...

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"I'm pretty broke Ass to Mouth."


Weirdo.

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Yeah, I think I might have to get a new PC...I MUST get this game.

Creating missions in Flashpoint was a goddamn blast. I had this one mission where you could choose to be dropped in as a paratrooper or dropped off via landing craft as a marine, and the AI took over for the option you didn't select. Each had an 8 man squad with a couple of anti-tank personnel. Man was that mission fun. You had to take a Russian-controlled town with like 50 guys, a couple of heavy machine guns and three BMPs.

The good thing about Flashpoint is that it's always so varied. If you're bored with infantry, command a tank. If you're bored with 80's equipment, download some WWII mods, etc etc. Imagine what Armed Assualt would be like...improved mission design, updated graphics, and a decent multiplayer component...



Yeah, just wait for the new 360. It shouldn't be too far off.



OMGZ YOU'RE TO HUMOUR WHAT HITLER IS TO FASCISM.

Motion sickness? Is that where you're watching something that's going really fast and you suddenly start to get a headache and you feel very nauseous?

If so, I've had that. Not playing a video game, though. Just watching someone playing it.... sort of. I was watching this speedrun of DOOM 2 (half an hour), and I had to keep pausing it and taking a break from it. Only time I've ever had that problem.

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More or less. Its basically you get pretty damn nauseous i would imagine from too much visual intake which gets interpreted into motion. Because obviously if you are playing a game where you are doing alot of running and its in the perspective of the characters eyes (first person) it just happens.

I used to get it alot playing Wolfenstein 3d way way way long ago. Because all the textures in a given area would be the same and you would run so fucking fast and the shit would fly by you and just completely fucks you up.

I could imagine doom 2 giving it to somebody, but i'm so used to the doom series that it couldn't begin to bother me. Maybe if the screen was huge it would be a totally different story.

My friend was watching me play Fzero for snes on that same tv and he ended up getting motion sickness and went home and ended up puking on the way home haha. Which sucks cause i wanted to drink that night.

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too much water is bad for you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6263029.stm

lady enters "hold your wee for a wii" water chugging contest, winds up dead.

well my roommate wound up getting a ds instead of the wii. i was hoping he'd get the wii so we could get some two player games going, but the ds is pretty cool. hes only got two games though so far. one is some lawyer game..sounds strange, but they seem to like it..i haven't played that one. the other game is some mind puzzle game. its fun and sorta addicting. it tests you in five different areas, analyzing skills, visual thinking, math, memorization, and i really can't think of the last one hah. oh well..its technically monday morning for me since we didn't have to work yesterday.

Yeah at OCS there was a couple people that passed out for heat casualties because they drank too much water and flushed all the minerals and shit out of their body. Thats why they say drink plenty of water and lightly salt your chow.

Its a BIG concern to go down for heat in ocs cause its in Quantico during hte summer and you just fucking run ALL THE TIME. So you are literally living in a pool of your own sweat all day every single day.

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I beat FF3 for SNES. First i've ever beaten it and i've gotten all the wya through the game at least 3 maybe 4 times in my life.

My characters just completely fucking owned that entire last area of the game, for a few minutes i thought i was cheating or something, but i just had that well of constructed characters.

The ending is most definately worth beating. Very long ending with great music. I'd be lying if i said the worst thing to ever hit the final fantasy series is the loss of Nobuo Uematsu. But i know he has his own thing going on now with some other famous people in the rpg business so i can't wait.

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Purchased Rainbow Six: Vegas yesterday. Fantastic game, both online and off.

I've heard that they've started removing "realistic" elements of the game and started making it more "arcade" like. Is this true?

I hope not.

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It sadly is.

- No planning before missions
- If you're injured, a couple of seconds behind cover will heal you
- If a teammate's down, you can heal him
- You don't have two teams to control anymore. Just one in the form of two guys.

Arcade-style play found it's way to Rainbow 6 ever since it was first released on a console.

R6V is still an enjoyable game though.

Definately not for me then. To me that was rainbow six's trade mark. Pure realism. Granted i'/m sure they're going for a wider audience. Why not make both in one? Why not have this new arcade type game (which could be fun for multiplayer too) and have the realistic version along side it.

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I heart Supersmash Brothers Melee.

o rly. hey what's the latest on the next one with snake in it? i haven't heard anything in a while.

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MADDEN O7 FOR THE Wii BITCHES!!!!!

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Any good? I considered getting it. Since i need some multiplayer games for the wii.

I haven't actually plugged my wii in, in about a month or so. Haven't felt compelled to play it since ive been back at my apartment. Although i have been playing RPGs out the ying yang.

i've already clocked 20+ hours on Chrono Cross and i got it... like last thursday i think.

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I beat Resident Evil 4 the other day. Took about a week. It has the most insane bosses I've ever seen. The actually freaked me out a bit. Other console games I like: everything in the Prince of Persia series, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snakeater, The Bard's Tale was pretty entertaining.

For the PC, Diablo II and Half Life II.

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Yes, it's very good. You use the remote for the following things:

snapping the ball (pull up)
kicking the ball
throwing the ball(of course)
swatting the ball on defense
calling a fair catch by waving the wiimote back and forth in the air
delivering a big hit on defense by pushing both controlloers forward
delivering a stiff arm while running the ball(lick the remote right or left)

and im sure there are a few more I haven't discovered yet. I mean...it's the best football franchise ever, with a brand new control system thats fun as hell. It ddoesn't take long to get used to at all.

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Me too, I almost went to a tournament for it, but I would of felt like a little kid or a hard core nerd.

i knew some of those but i hadn't heard of doing stuff like swatting the ball or stiff arming. Thats fucking cool. I definately like where the Wii is going. My only complaint is eventually it seems like they'll need to upgrade the remotes and probably the firmware in the system to incorporate better precision, because sometimes the system is highly lacking in it. (i think its due to hardware reasons personally). But overall for now, its damn good.

I'm not sure what rpg i'll play next now that i'm probably about 12 hours or so away from beating chrono cross. I still have to beat Dragon Quest 8.. (what a fucking bore, it will require endless leveling up, which takes ages), still gotta beat Xenosaga so i can move on in the series (another fucking bore, worst rpg i've ever played as far as game play goes) and i still have zelda for wii and star ocean for ps2. So who knows.

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I think it's pretty good so far, in Madden at least. I know from playing zelda that swinging the wiimote was like button mashing without any real precision. With madden, it is like.....velocity(?) sensitive in some areas. To throw a bullet you swing very quickly and to do a lob you swing slower. I feel teh graphics could have gotten a shot in the arm though. In the 6th generation console wars (this is the 7th I think), even though the xbox and Ps2 had consitently better graphics over the gamecube, nintendo managed to drop a beautiful bombshell in resident evil 4. That game can still give some of the newer games a run for their money in terms of how pretty they are.

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I guess i'm kinda more refering to like precision like in games such as golfing where even in the newer games coming out putting is just way off. (as i've heard and read).

Could just be the ability to .... interpert the data coming in from teh Wiimote but who knows.

I'm still curious to see the games comin out!

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So i'm pretty much furious beyond belief right now. I bought chrono cross... LAST WEEK... its been sitting in my ps2 the entire time... i'm 22 hours into the game and guess what... the fucking thing freezes during a cutscene.... With no ability to skip cutscenes there is offically no fucking way i can continue playing the game.

This is probably the most dissapointing thing ever. If i had my ps1 here i could get past it with a boot leg copy. Get past it save then switch back over, but i don't. (i have a modded ps1, but not a ps2) Also whats nifty about having a modded ps1 is when shit starts skipping it skips over those parts. Thats how my used FF9 was. THere was some real bad freezing during this long cutscene (like 15 minute cutscene) and i had to watch it like 5 times before it finally went through it.

But this... . this is just bullshit, i basically can't play this game for a month. (until i go back home and get my ps1 to skip this)

Mother fucker....

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Elderscrolls IV Oblivion.

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Have no idea why you mention this but.. it was a good game. Ended way ...WAY too fucking soon.

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I think Gamecube's graphics looked much cleaner than the ps2s, and while xbox did have nicer looking games, they always ended up having low framerates which irritated me. So in all, I think Gamecube actually pulled off better graphics as a whole in the three systems. Resident Evil 4 ran smooth as butter and looked great, so it was pretty much the superior in that race. I never did see how it ran on the Ps2 version, though.

The Wii? Well, it's definitely not a system for graphics. It's just the most fun in the current race now IMO. Almost all the games are extremely fun and unique as the remote is a unique idea. The 360 hasn't had a superb release since Gears of War, and the ps3.... we don't talk about that.



A great game that demonstrates some great precision of the wiimote is the game... I think it's called Trauma Center or something like that. Basically, you perform surgery on people, and it's pretty fun. The wiimote feels very accurate in that game. Check it out if you can.

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I agreed completely about your post until you mentioned trama center. The only precision refers to the moving between the 2 sensors of the IR bar. And although some might call precision... i call. slight precision. That is decient, but there are other things that the wii mote is lacking. If you are not pointing at the "references" of IR light then there is a seriously lack of precision. I think anyways. We shall see as games progress. I think it will take about a year possibly a year and a half to unleash the potential of the wii.

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Oh, well I guess I didn't look into what you meant well enough. All I thought of was that while playing that game the wiimote felt more precise and smooth as compared to other games in terms of cursor accuracy. You're thinking of full movements and swinging action, that kind of stuff, am I right?

I still think the game is fun haha.

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Of course it ended way too fucking soon, the game has shitloads of other quests/storylines you can pursue. IIRC, I'm 70 hours into it.



Meh, I'll still not be getting a Wii. It's line-up of exclusive titles is WEAK as hell. I'm just not into Mario, Zelda, Metroid and the like. And I don't even see the new controller as being good enough to warrant a purchase of the system.

I didn't find many of the sidequests to be very satisifying. I completed the entire Brotherhood one... and thats about it for some of those. Granted the only sidequests the game even offers is like "guild" related and moving up in those guilds. So it seems kinda lame.

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Speaking of side-quests. Zelda: Ocarina of Time FTW!!

I'm personally a PC gamer. FPS was meant to be played on a computer, with a mouse. Half-Life does it for me. Adrenaline Gamer, Counter-Strike, and Opposing Force are all Half-Life mods. Yeah, that's it.

Hell yeah, I hear that! I can't fucking get enough of basically everything before Playstation.

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I dunno i highly disagree with you as it relates to Starcraft and C&C CTL. In my opinion nearly every single aspect you just named is in all versions of C&C.

I mean i could point to point counter all that you said but just off hand, you need certain units in C&C to attack air units too. Sam sites, Missle troops, and thats about it.

Also defense wise you must have all sorts of different units and buildings to have a decient defense.

Also you have to have a good variation of units when attacking. You state that you just build up a large army. Well you could and can do the EXACT same thing in Starcraft. Also i don't see having 12 units you can select at a time to be increased strategy, more like increased annoyance. You can simiply make macros caling up 12 different people at a time and move that way. Same thing you can do in C&C.

To be honest i'm a little baffled about any and all of your statements, because as i see it the games are nearly identical except one deals with a semi-distance future, and the other a space age future with aliens. (theres probably a bit more variety in Starcraft than C&C games as it relates to types of units that you can have, but come on how drastic of a difference can you make it with "realistic, earthbound" enemies?)

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I can only counter your point about how you need a variety of units to counter both air and ground enemies in C&C games. In Red Alert 1, there is the soviet mammoth tank; Red Alert 2, the apocalypse tank; Yuri's Revenge, the gattling tank; Tiberian sun, the one hovercraft thingy; mass produce these units alone and you can take on any threat from either ground or air.

Also, just one thing; most air units you'll encounter in Red Alert 1 and 2, Yuri's Revenge, and some in Tiberian Sun have a limited supply of ammo and unless mass produced are no real threat, except, of course, the NOD banshee and GDI bomber crafts which do take a toll on your forces.

Just thinking about it, there are some missions in the C&C games that do require strategy. Don't know why I didn't remember this. Pretty much any level where you don't get the luxury of having a base or even resources, and you're only given a handful of troops or even just one, who is most likely a hero in the game (Tanya, for example, from the Red Alert games). So this one I'll admit. But as far as skirmish missions are concerned, it's just a race; see who can create a good defense, and mass a better offense the fastest.

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In saying that explain how StarCraft is any different. This is what i'm interested in hearing.

edit: Also the mammoth tank takes AGES to build, so by the time you've built one i've built like 3 medium tanks which can kill it. Also its expensive.

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It's been a long time since I played RA1 (PS).

The Apocalypse tank sure is effective, but it's slightly cheaper and more practical to build Rhino tanks and Flak tracks mainly so you can deal with 2 threats at the same time.... or you could choose an Allied country and solve all your problems.

I'm not too keen on the Yuri forces. Are the Gattling tanks really that effective against other tanks?

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I finally beat this godamn boss in Grandia III after leveling up for 5-6 hours over the past couple of weeks. I was about to give the game up, but then when I fought the boss I completely owned the bitch, none of my guys even died.

Hopefully I'll beat this game tonight, and maybe finally start FF12 tomorrow..haha, which I just opened today. I've had it since a couple days after Christmas.


Rogue Galaxy for ps2 looking really good, has anyone played it?

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Trust me i know how that is. Haven't touched zelda since i bought it. Or even opened star ocean and i got it at the same time as Dragon quest 8 if i'm not mistaken.

You'll enjoy 12. I thoroughly enjoyed the game. Just the right amount of difficulty. You can tell insane amount of work went into that game.

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No. That's one fault with them. But a mass of them could tip the scale in your favor.

To be honest, I've never played against human players with any C&C game (dunno how) so all my statements are based on my experience against the computer. I'm sure you'd have to vary on what you use to mass attack a person's base.


ALSO, I can't believe I forgot this. In Starcraft, you are limited to how many units you can build (200 is the max) so massing isn't as simple as it is in C&C. You could be a little bastard and mass at the beginning of the match (I hate when people do it. Let it drag out a little!) with a low cost unit. But if a person's base is heavily fortified, you're gonna need something better than marines/hydralisks/dragoons. In C&C, you have infinite supplies. You can build as much as you want so long as you have the money for it.

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Sounds like you just have a preference for Starcraft over C&c hah.

With C&C if you build only for helicopters you can fucking demolish the enemy in minutes. Thats why whenever you play games on the net people always say no helicopters.

And i'm almost positive there is a max on units in C&C too. I think its 255. By the time you reach 200 or 255 units, you have a ridiculously large force.

I just wish some of these games were a lil more realistic. I'm just a nut with realisticness.

I need to get that new flashpoint game. I already fucking fogot the title haha. I'll look up it up on oldp ages of htis.

Edit: I really want spore to come out I think about this game at least once every week or 2 weeks.

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In Starcraft, each race has different characteristics that either weaken or strengthen themselves.

Terran; Technologically advanced. Variety of abilities to tap into (lockdown, irradiate, siege tank siege mode, Yamatan gun or whatever it's called on the battlecruiser). Some buildings can fly too, and can be built anywhere (except on the Zerg's creep, or at least I think so). Buildings can also be repaired by the SCV's. However, their reletively pretty weak and most strength comes from firepower rather than defense (a swarm of zerglings/group of zealots could take out a group of Goliaths easily). Defense structures are rather poor, or at least in my opinion.

Zerglings; strength in numbers. Quick to produced units. Overlords are needed to add more psi so more units can be build, and, for lack of a better word, are portable and can be moved out of danger, as well as used to uncover cloaked units. Probably a perfect race, but one setback is if you plan to mass produce a load of units, you need like 6 or 7 Hatcheries which cost around 300 or 400 minerals, and it is the only structure that can produce the larvae neededto make the units. Just an inconvenience, but if you aren't near alot of minerals....

Protoss; Most powerful. Best defense (shields). But expensive as hell. nothing much for me to say.


I'll get into how C&C differs later. I've gotta go to work.

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haha its the SAME THING with C&C man. GDi has their units and Nod has theirs. GDI has expensive more powerful stuff while Nod as cheap and fast building stuff.

Of course starcraft can have more variation... it deals with complete fantasy space things. Hence you can have different races. C&C (at least the original and Red Alert) its humans. You can only have so many different types of units, and its not like on earth there is a DRASTIC difference in units that different countries have.

Maybe there is more to strategy than types of units you can have, but how you use thoes units.

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If you want to talk about some kick ass strategy. Civilization 4 aboslutely owns. I've talked about this before. I spent a week on one fucking game. I am almost Germany, and i always take the fastest routes to get to gunpowder then industrial stuff so i can build tanks. Then as usual there will be a country that totally pisses me off, and generally attempts to attack me, so i retort with a Blitzkrieg like nobody has ever seen. I eventually spend the rest of the game obliterating civilizations with the largest most modern armies known to man. Nothing stands in my way ever.

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I got the Civ 4 demo but didn't buy the game cos i could see it taking a large part of my life.

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Uh.. yeah. hah. Then again i play it it on epic. (second slowest mode) and often times start from the very very beginning. Like i said usually takes me about about 3 or 4 days to finish a game. (and this is after playing for like 8 hours a day hah)

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What's the slowest mode then?

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Marathon. I could only imagine how long i twould take to complete a game on marathon.

Also i get rid of some of the victory requirements to make the game go longer and better. Space race is the gayest quickest victory.

I make it either diplomatic, conquest or domination. Basically you either have to have most of the map, have killed everybody or be elected the winner by the other countries in the united nations.

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Sounds good. When I read about Space Race a while ago I thought it would be good fun try to progress through technology quicker than the other countries but I imagine it is too similar each time.

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Yeah it is. Not to mention you'll be WAY ahead then all of a sudden gandhi gets mad technology. That fag beats me EVERYTIME. (point wise). For some reason he sucks then all of a sudden he has the largest most advanced army in the world.

generally i'm locked in constant war for tens of years to hundreds of years.

last time i played i was constantly at war for like 400 years. It got pretty tiresome, but i just had to keep moving on.

I turn all my cities into tank building factories. And attempt to keep a constant stream of tanks. (if i'm that high in technology) if not it'll all be infantry and cannons.

Fighting macemen and knights generally ahha.

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Guess you do have a point.


How did this argument even start?

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You started it by saying c&c isn't a strategy game (more or less) and cited star craft as being much more strategic and i started telling you you're just being biased with starcraft.

Now we are here. You don't like c&c go back to starcraft which IS a decient game haha.

Like i said go play civilization. Even if you mass fucking troops you can't do shit unless you use strategy. Hence why so much of my shit has fallen attacking bullshit cities with sorry units. (stuff like longbow archers killing my infantry units....the 2nd highest "human" unit other passed by marines).

Let me tell you, that game gets on my nerves fucking fast with that bullshit. I have no idea how catapults destroy panzers, or fucking knights and shit just because i'm attacking a hill, or over a river. bs.

An overreliance on enviormental damage modifiers.

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Get C&C Generals. Fun game and the graphics are way better than previous C&C games. Doesn't follow the storyline of the other games, though. Still fun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comman...nquer:_Generals

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Hmm, never really been tempted, looks like it strays too far from the classic structure. I remember hearing a while ago there's a new C&C out soon. March possibly.

I wouldn't mind playing one of you guys sometime.

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It kind of does stray from the original ones, mainly because Westwood didn't make it.

EA GAMES! Challenge everything....

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haha you're so gay.

I'm iffy with ea but i'm not an EA hater. I've played plenty of good games that ea has produced. Are they big giant? yes. Do they sometimes ruin games for hte sake of profits? Yes. Oh well.

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I'm not too picky when it comes to the companies that make games. Just as long as the game keeps me occupied for a very very long time.

Although, whoever makes the Gundam games has to make them a hell lot longer lasting. It's like chewing a piece of Extra gum; the flavor disappears too fast.

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anyone got an old pokemon gam sitting around that they dont want anymore?
could you send it to me

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who likes Super Smash Bros. for gamecube.
and who knows about level 51 for the "event match(es)", "the showdown", i hate that match! my cheek/jaw is sore from punching my own face! hah. i did beat the level though.

I really need to get a new computer, or at least get my overheating craptop fixed. I want a break from my 360, and milsims would be fantastic if the designer of my craptop wasn't such an idiot:

Silent Hunter III (WWII sub sim)
Op Flashpoint (gen. military sim)
Enemy Engaged: Commance vs Hokum (heli sim)

I really want to play Medieval II: Total War as well. It's been sitting on the shelf since the day of release.

Played a 360 for the first time yesterday. Got to play Gears of Wars. Man... that game is badass. It makes me think of several games. The movement system is that of Killswitch, plus they have it team based. Graphics are eye melting. Gameplay is pretty solid, some of the movements when engaged in cover mode are bit dodgy, but like anything else, a lil practice should take care of it. That chainsaw assualt rifle is beyond pimp... it's fucking brutal!! Can't wait to play it again.

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can anyone find me a place to download the pokemon emerald rom?
Ive been searching for hours and I cant find anything useful at all.
Please just send the direct like from the download site I dont need any more "vote here to enter" bullshit.

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Ah, pokemon. I remember playing that. Long ago. Only played the first 3 versions.

What is the deal with all the versions, though? Why not just put everything into one cartridge?

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job security

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.... What do you mean?

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Is someone know the game: Fatal Frame for ps2

this game is fucking scary, you're a little japanese school girl and there some ghost and you must take some pictures for kill them...anyway to hard to describe but thats fucking scary!

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I remember that game. It was a little freaky. Kinda lame game though.

In speaking of mediocre, I just beat Grandia III. I loved Grandia for ps1, and Grandia II slightly less...I guess Grandia III wasn't that terrible, 7.5/10 at most. The battle system is the best out of the three however.

On to finally(PUNZ) play Final Fantasy 12.

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I've started up the sims 2 again. This game just kicks major ass.

Its a game where you can lose track of time and space.

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I dont really play games but some of the ones i like are Silver(sega dream cast),The sims Bustin Out(Badass shit),Halo 2,Bg dark alliance 2,and champions of norrath

Cant stand playing games to long though