When I hear most Metal, the feeling I get is happiness and energy.
I'd have it no other way.
I often hear some of you guys talk about Varg and Buzrum and death and all that stuff and for the most part have no clue about any of that.

Well...I just read a huge article about the Varg dude and all the drama around him. I read about his fans and the odd things they do and Vargs antics in jail.
I dont get it...is this like people pretending to be Vikings and Lord Of The Rings type characters?
Do these people look in the mirror and say stuff like, "bwahaha I'm so sinister...I am deep and a mystery and no one understands me bla bla bla" ?
I read he makes entire albums of horrible keyboard sounds.....if he beat on cans for 70 minutes and recorded it , the assumption I get is the fans would buy that album too....because they dont really give a shit about the actual music....they care about the author.

Am I wrong?
Is this all in fun or taken way too seriously?

Who cares?

You will, when Varg rapes your pets and drinks the milk in the fridge straight out of the bottle.

B, I think you can answer this one for yourself. Think very hard then speculate wildly...

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Well..Obviously I care.
I read an article that simply blew my mind and I am asking others that know MORE about it to clarify for me.

Question is, if you care not...then why say anything at all?

Cool it Yoda

it's all taken way too seriously, bunch of cunts going overboard about shitty music recorded in even shittier basements somewhere in the shitty woods

You always tell it like it is

You ask a question...I answer....and you tell me to cool it yoda...then kiss Def ass in the next reply.....


Wanker

tr00

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Varg should not speak for all of black metal,hes an idiot,a murderer,and a shitty musician.I used to love burzum,its some of the most atmospheric music you will ever hear,but it really gets old.On top of that his vox are terrible.

I like black metal.

Bia, I think he was referring more to the order that you said the words in --if you care not... I didn't think of it so much as a Yoda thing. Just more poetic than --if you don't care. You know how guys are sometimes --just weird.

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he made his keyboard-music in jail I think. That's wht it sounds to me also ... a bit boring ! :/

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That was mentioned in the article....said he was refused his request for a guitar.

My Brother knows a lot of these guys like him . He also told me that he read a lot about hitler in jail, and after a time he started to think it was just right what hitler had done. :/

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i really dont like BM....actually i find it quite monotonous and borring

BM which i thought was ok was emperor the iam the black wizards album and dark throne-transalvanian hunger.....also a lil zyklon but im not too sure if its BM or not

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I wonder if there are any Jewish or African BM fans....I'm sure there must be....lol

Oh dear. A thread about the small percentage of black metal fans that take the game too far, yet has the rising potential to turn into a "do you like black metal?" thread. Well, there's plenty of black metal debate in the bands forum. Search the threads. So I suppose this should stay on topic.
And with that said...who cares? Nothing against you, Bia. I understand your curiosity. Yet it's quite simple. Sometimes people are bad people. And sometimes those bad people tend to like a certain style of music. Of course, as we all can agree, it's not the music -- just those particular people (who happen to be fans). I'm not well educated on Burzum or Varg. So I can't say anything that I type has true meaning (as always).
All I know is that, damn it, murder and madness should be a happy thing from a happy place. Don't play black metal as you burn churches, rape pre-pubescent girls, and hack/beat your family to death in order to drive out the demons they hold within your house. Play fucking carnival music. Put on a smile. Enjoy it, damn it. Death and killing is a bright and happy place. Don't bring it down to a dark feeling with that damned metal music. All of these fucking goth teens are enjoying their homicidal rampages with such darkness. When the zombie apocalypse arrives, it will be a wonderful invasion of lovely corpses everywhere. Be happy, folks. Play some old 60's love songs, grab the nearest blunt object, and start swinging. Life and all of it's destruction is too sweet for these ignorant satanic worshipers of grimness.

Now dance with me as the prophesy of our deaths are fulfilled. la-di-da-di-da...


Side Note: This is some great acid.

That was...beautiful! I love you shimmie.

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I love you, too, man.

Excellent point...and it is not my intent to start a BM debate...but to try and understand the overall attitude that seems to be labeled with the association.
Like I mentioned...Metal makes me feel good. Even when depressed, I choose to try and let the music lift me back instead of finding a tune that further drives me lower and lower.

I knew of a black metal band from Morocco (although I forget the name) so theres definately fans in the northern part of Africa. And the band Orphaned Land (although not really black metal, perhaps very few elements) uses references to Jewish (along with many other religions) stories on their album Mabool.

I went to an Amish black metal show once.
Even though they used coal-powered amps, it still sounded pretty cool. There was a girl in the band. She churned butter, making some sick and totally necro noises.

I can see it now....

"hey, Jonas...your strobing effect with the lantern just isnt cutting it....we're going to let you go"

Omg, You guys are too much. There's a lot of Amish in south county here. That was great. Would they tear down pole barns instead of building them, too?


I think metal has a place happy or angry. I know when Bob would work out he'd have metal cranked up whether he was on his treadmill or out in the garage on the weight machine. That's how I heard so much when he was home. There's a method of working out that's positive controlled anger and certain types of metal can fuel that very well. I guess it depends on how the nature of the beast hits you.

Where's fbs? I'm curious if he does that since he's a fitness buff and has that menacing attitude so near and dear to our hearts.

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Wait, first of all Bia, have you actually heard any of Burzum's material, or have you just read stuff?

Black Metal is a disease..
Good thing it has mostly stayed in Norway.



Why should she have to suffer through that crap?

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I havnt heard them that I am aware of.
Recommend a specific tune and I'll give it a listen.

Any time you don't want to hear an entire album or song, go to amazon.com or mp3.com and search the band. They have sound clips from many, many, many albums. That way, you can get a rough idea of "what they sound like" for any band. (and I think mp3.com has everything amazon has and so much more. so maybe just skip amazon.)

I figured I give an entire tune a listen. I have my P2P fired up and am getting some results back now....
Lost Wisdom, Key To The Gate, War, Dominus Sathanas all have multiple hits....the rest are being served by one person.
I'm going to give War a try.....

OK...did 3 tunes.
Personal opinion...kill the drummer and voaclist...replace them and I'd like it.
I hate to diss others but that drummer simply sucks ass. Same beat in all three tunes from beginning to end. Where are the changeups? Nothing worse than predicability IMO in Metal. One of the things that makes metal is a wickedass drummer that mixes it up. These guys might as well used a trained monkey.
The guitar and bass sounded pretty good together.....but it sounds like it was recorded in a tunnel.
Overall.....not as bad as I expected.
Those vocals though.......that kills everything to me.

Well, at least you gave it a try, I just wanted to know if you've actually heard them, and I agree I fucking hate black metal.

Well yeah if you're judging it by those two bands.There is so much better black metal than that.I get so tired of people ripping on black metal for not being as technical or well produced.If you dont like bm for those two reasons there is plenty of bm bands that are well produced and technical.

I know and have heard of plenty of real Black Metal bands, not some Cradle of Filth or some shit like that. I have no problem if you like Black Metal, go ahead listen to them, just for me, I can't stand it.

It's just so fucking boring and monotonous, yeah I know, but the majority of "big" Norwegian bands people brag about are just that.

You're missing the point. You've got to put on a black cape and gothic make up so you can feel the necro and grim k00|ness!!!!!1111

Eh, I'm just fucking around. I like most black metal. It's just a matter of taste. Sometimes you've got to train yourself to like it.

uh..

wow..

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Did anyone else have black metal (y'know instead of the usual Korn or whatever) as a stepping stone to better music?

I did kind of...except I still like black metal. Melodic death was sort of my stepping stone into black metal, then black metal into other things. I never really had that Korn stage

I had a Metallica phase...I can remember being in my dad's truck when I was 4 or 5 listening to the black album. Except I still listen to Metallica, just now it's branched out to Megadeth, Anthrax, and Testament.

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Damn straight! Same here.
What's the deal with Testament? Are they still jamming and touring?

No clue. I thought the vocalist was sick with something bad. And they've been through more members than Megadeth...you can see if they have and tour dates at www.testamentlegions.com

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Testament reunited..

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With Alex?

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Yes

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Sweet jesus that is great news.

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I had neither. I could never fucking stand Korn. Except for that song Alone I Break. Never loved it, but could stand it.
I used to listen to the typical shit that was on the radio and whatever was available to me. Once I got a hold of some Guns N Roses, though, all bets were off. That was some good shit, and still is.

I can rock out to Appetite For Destruction any day!
Can play about half the stuff on there....no leads of course....but can power chord the fuck out of it.....lol

Haha I know the bass part to "Welcome to the Jungle" Lets start a cover band

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Blizzard_Beast can be the singer!

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Hahahaha I remember that video

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I only got an Audio.....he did a video of his GnR too?

who's on bass? Digiorgio?

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Your're right. There wasn't a video...So why can I put a face to blizzard beast? Must've saw a picture of him. Forgive me, It's late.

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Greg Christian

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yea, same with me. I used to like one band, now i like four!

FOUR!

Dont you get confused?!

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4 is the peak man. 4!
At the moment I am back to 4, but next semester I have to go back up to 5!
All because some pansy decreed that I have to go back and do some other shit!

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eh, you know what I meant.

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That's low down and dirty man. Fucking black metal people have no soul even though they're one of the few openly religious sects of metal...