Ok, heres the "story". I was at a party with a few friends. Me and one of them started argueing about something small and stupid. His brother and girlfriend joined his side against me, and all three of them were yelling at me and calling me names because i disagreed. It went on for a long time. Just arguing. Eventually i said i was leaving, and as i left the three of them were repeatedly yelling at me to "get the fuck out". I turned to my better friend of the two brothers and said "fuck you". He said "why fuck me?" and i said "because of all this shit you guys are telling me". So he told me once again to shut up and leave. Now im not a very nice person anyway, but this was too much. As i was walking away, i thought of everthing. I turned around, ran back, and punched him in the chest. Then i left. He played bass in two of our "bands" and now he deosnt talk to me anymore. Ive known him for five years and are/were what some people call best friends, but he doesnt talk to me anymore.

To tell you the truth, i think hes a pussy. Our drummer/friend has beat me to the ground before for turning on every electronic in the room while he tried to sleep. And the next day i didnt care one bit. what do you guys think? any similar occasions?

Sounds like an over-sensitive, sheltered type. Nobody really likes to get hit, but a punch to the chest isn't exactly painful or offensive. Really, it'd be helpful to know a bit more about your history, and especially about what exactly the argument was over and how heated it got. Regardless, if you want to salvage the friendship apologize to him, even if you don't think you're in the wrong. Hell, I don't think you're in the wrong either, but if you want to keep a friendship you sometimes have to eat crow.

If you don't, you can always stalk him until he passes a dark alley, beat him senseless, then light him on fire like a hobo.

Oh, and how long has this been going on? Sometimes it just takes some time to cool down. But, really, if you were as close friends as you say, he'll probably be understanding about it if you apologize for hitting him. Not for disagreeing, but for punching him. Anyway, like I said, it's not worth letting a close friendship go down the shitter over this kind of petty bullshit, even if you're not the one being petty. He may be a pussy, but he's not just any pussy; he's your best friend, and that gets him some leeway he wouldn't have otherwise.

You know, I've never had a friend pissed off at me for hitting him. I don't know many people who get that way. So maybe my advice isn't the best.

You dont even know how right you were here. He is the most over-sesitive and paranoid person ive ever met. He wont let people touch his hair. Hes never held a job for more than a week. He actually cant do any real labor. Hes a pretty pathetic person, but my friend none-the-less.
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ok. i dont care if this is stupid, which it is. But we were arguing over this: His brother said there is a huge difference between counting in normal seconds "1" compared to thousands "1001". I showed them on a watch you can just as easily say "1" in a second as "1001". but they just went off and started calling me tons of shit. I didnt even understand why they were so hyped about it. I told them to settle down and stop being immature about it, but that just pissed them off more. So like i said, after too long i couldnt take it anymore. I have apologized and hes pretty determined not to speak to me anymore...

I've seen alot of guys fight. Most were pretty harsh but for some reason (which I love about guys!) is that they were back friends soon there after.

If this doesn't seem to be headed that way...I'd assume it depends on what the subject of the original argument was about. Some things are trival and others...well, there's no backing out if it's something near and dear.

Does a compromise seem likely?

Bia, i dont know. he really is too much of a pussy. and if you read the post i made while you were posting, i believe, youll see the argument. But i wont be here to reply for a while. Im going to an old friends house for now. But ill be back later.

just wondering, how old are all you guys? I mean, come on, how the fuck can you argue about something like THAT?

punching people isn't bad per-se, sometimes you need to make a statement, now don't think I'm promoting violence here or something but it's just a fact. If he's a real friend you wouldn't want to hit him in the first place so I wonder if he's really that much of a friend.

basically, I think you're taking too much shit from your friends, friends don't beat you up for putting on every electronic in the room when they're trying to sleep. or maybe just some friendly beating up.

there's a big difference there but hitting someone in the chest is stupid, if you want to make a statement you should aim between the fucking eyes and punch one's nose off. I don't know how angry you where but the face is the place to hit someone if you really want to hurt someone (IE hitting someone directly on the nose or on the cheek will give him a bloody nose or a black eye = public humiliation)

I've had the same thing happen. My ex-guitarist and his brother thought they could just have what they wanted of mine and ignore me when they didnt want something. So we had the typical yelling fight, which lead to a challenge. So on the day of the fight I'm there and here walks up my ex-guitarist. We do the whole face off thing then he runs over to a car and gets his dad. His dad begins to berate me in spanglish. It was hard not to laugh as they walked away. Later when I'm at his house, his dad hands me my stuff and I ask "Where's my gig bag?" and he calls for the guitarist, who brings it, then runs up stairs screaming "Now get the fuck out"

I thought the whole ordeal was hilarious. Too many people live in a 'comfort' world and can't live with not getting their way.

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kids these days...

I don't fight my friends. And we rarely ever argue.

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"...uh, once I ate too much tofu... and then I went jogging."

Pft.

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AHAHA! What a stupid arguement... everyone knows that 1001 is the right way.

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That has to be the worst reason to get in a fight EVER. If your friends get in a fight over stupid things like this, you might want to consider your friend being on that relationship status. That is not a good sign in a relationship....I would say just leave that guy alone for a while. I agree, he is the extremelly sensitive type........too wussish.

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screw 'em

but dont fight. hardly worth it

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Fighting about counting... sounds like alcohol was involved to me.

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Is one of your friend's named Jack?

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No but Brandy is a really good friend of mine.

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Yeah, she has a really tight ass.

jack is a l00z3r BLS. me and jim, then you got a party started.

i knew about all this before you did (keep on punchin mr. dragon ). the guy sounds like a total arsehole, i think possibly you'd be best off finding a new bass player who er, doesn't mind when you touch his hair.

of my friends, i've only had one real spat with one of them, but it turns out he had good reason for being angry. of my ex-mates, i want to absolutely kick their fucking faces in for either leaving or betraying me when i needed my friends the most.

The tightest

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I think people should punch their friends more often. Actually, I think everybody should be punched at least twice a month. It builds character.

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Thats genius..

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Sounds a lot like Maddox actually...

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well...im training kickboxing tommorrow so im gonna be punched like 500 times by my friends and try to punch them as well...and of course wrestlin'

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Yeah, I noticed that too. Might just be a coincidence, though.

And by the way, Dragon, didn't you say that you punched the guy in the chest and then ran? And you're calling this guy a pussy. If you're already going to hit the guy, might as well make it count. Upgrade the punch to a decent ass kicking and teach him never to argue with you again about anything. Quite frankly, I think that all persons involved in this particular ordeal should get the living shit kicked out of them for arguing about seconds.
And while we're already on the subject of what Maddox might say about all this, I think it would sound something like this.

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i disagree, didnt have to hit him, unless he was deliberately provoking you physically<shoving you> or comes too close should you start throwing down, telling them to fuck off and not speaking to them for a while seems more apropriate. i regularly spar with my friends and bandmates, sometimes it gets a little too serious, sometimes it gets real, ive walked into work with a black eye before, a busted gut, a twisted arm. all this is done in a maner of training, what goes down in a training session stays with the session and doesnt bleed into the friendship. if it ever came to a head with any of my close friends i wont do them harm unless they swung first, and that would be a sad fucking day. it can be a type of thing to put you in a blind rage and not be in control of yourself, next thing you know you could be kicking your best friends head into a curb or he yours, over what? some minor detail overblown coz you hang out too much and dont really get along sometimes? not fucking worth it

The main reason I physically fight is to establish a reputation. I never get picked on or just given a hard time in general. Ask Sam, not a single kid in our high school would give my ANY crap (unless it was something really serious or personal) Also, I never believe in starting an altercation, just ending one. In there cases, the people who I would beat down would be people I have little respect for. You guys should see how me and Sam interact when we are playing Halo, all kinds of swearing and yelling there, but nothing ever gets personal. I have argued many times with several of my good friends, but it gets forgotten in a matter of hours. And like I said, if they are a good friend to you, nothing gets personal really.


I definately think you should mend your relationship with him, because a good friend is not easy to get ahold of.

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badass

I just meant that is really funny, because we generally get along pretty well, and the only time we are yelling at each other is when we play Halo. If you were there, you'd laugh.

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I don't know the game but I guess you'de have to see it to consider it funny..

I agree about punching people though, I beat up on some kids in high school and I never got any shit in the years later on. just because they knew I didn't take shit.

I got punched by two girls freshman yr at school. It was funny...the strongest punch thrown equated to perhaps a punch thrown by a 10 yr old boy.

Haha, girls fighting is allways funny, this weekend I saw two girls fight at the queensday prom, it was kickass, one really punched the other full in the face! (chick fights are funny to see, they allways go for the hair and scream really loud, heh!)

You're correct....chick fights are lame usually.
Mine never turned into a throw down....I went out to my car and got my straight razor....took it back in class and found the girl that started the shit (while she was now alone) and told her, she tried it again, I'd slice her throat open.
Long story short...I got 2 weeks suspension....had to do "counciling for anger management" and they found out I was driving to school with no license and lost that privilege.
The police were also called and I had to go to court for bringing a weapon into the school....the judge is the one that made me do anger management.... The girls mother tried to call my parents and when she found out I was living with my sister tried to start a bunch of shit with the State saying I was being raised in a home with no parents....bla bla fucking bla.
The girls never looked at me again though.

Haha, that's fucking hilarious, you had to go to court for something like that? America is funny, I don't think I'de last for day there without getting arrested

Court? Hell yeah for someting like that. Not in Holland??

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hell no, they won't even call the cops, we'de just have a good laugh about it if that happens at a high school.

just a suspension, that's all

Wow, that is suprising to me. Over here they take violence alot more seriously then they used to.

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meh, nothing much happens over here unless you beat the crap outta someone.

cops don't even come to schools for this kinda shit. hell, I know stories of poeple getting their house robbed empty and the cops didn't have time to show up untill the next week. that's how lame cops are over here. I guess it's the other side of extreme, compared to the US

Shit Def....I was damn lucky I wasnt kicked out of the entire school system for that.
A weapon in school is a huge deal here....even a straight razor.
After Columbine...heh

that probably had a lot to do with it, the crazy shit that happend there, I think it's all because of your crazy gun laws over there. it's basically impossible to get hold of a gun here.

So that's why you like to blow shit up. Guns are hard to get, but household items aren't.

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Where do you live Powers?


Getting a gun in the southeast us is actually pretty easy, guns and fireworks in South Carolina are actually pretty easy to get. But in New York, no way.

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Im 18 and hes 19. Like i said, its not what we were arguing about, its what came after. The issues that bring arguements about are not always what makes it escalate to fighting. think about it.

Well, he was punching me pretty hard for that "beating" doesnt bother me at all.

And no, hitting him in the face is more than a statement. The face is much more serious, IMO. And see, i didnt want to hurt him. So i would not have hit him in the face.

I dont really feel like replying to every post directed towards me right now. But to anyone who thinks this was a stupid thing to argue/fight/hit him over, It really doesnt matter what your arguing about. For example, if i must, Two people could be arguing over the color of a pen when one calls the other a "fucking idiot", offends the other, he responds, and thus they fight. Dont agree? i dont care.

BTW. i saw my friend a few hours ago. still not talking.

i'm a wimp. my mate just called my girlfriend a prostitute and i didn't hit him or anything, i think i was too shocked to do anything. anyhow, thats the reason i'm home at the moment.

hah. i had to reply to this though.

What did you do. read my post and then reply on what you think you had just read? i said i ran back to punch him, and walked away afterwards. And no, i dont want to "make it count". I didnt even want to hit anyone really, but they pushed me too far. I couldnt control it. and yes, he is a pussy. if you knew him you would agree, as do i and all of our friends.


that really upset you?

see, so it IS more of a serious statement. I'de rather punch someone's nose off then hit him on the chest, I mean, it's either a dispute or not, sometimes you need to hurt people to get them to understand some things.

I still say they're retard friends, acting like that at 18 is just plain stupid if you ask me.

Andrewc, you are a wimp, you're not going to let anyone mess with your chick now are ya? why are you home because of that?

MTM, I live in Texas. Here, if you curse a school teacher, there's a chance to get fined, even jailed. If you go to jail for rape, you ass is dead--same with pediphilia. Yet, we may all have as many guns as we please.

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TEXAS YEAH!!! YEEEEHAAAA!!!!

Texas just kills everyone. #1 death rate in the US. Dude says, "I will never do it again".... Texas says, "I know"

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Yeah.....so don't fuck with us!!!! Or we'll start death sentencing for J-walking!

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Sure...Texas is tougher than some states....as is my home of Florida.

But it does nothing to change the stats on crime......meaning the deterrence factor is a moot point.
Correct?

You got it backwards. We have higher stats because we're tougher on crime.

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I said nothing to be taken backwards did I?
I mentioned that in the tougher states....there is no diff in deterrence....people still react the same way no matter where you live.....it seems.

oh....

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2 of my friends almost stopped talking to me because i bought a death cd.




seriously

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Some friends....Bah!
Death and gore are a good way to weed out certain types I'd rather not hang with anyway.

Seriouslaaaa

HAVE I EVER TOLD YOU HOW MUCH YOU ANNOY ME? JUST DIE NOW!

Keep your personal shit to yourself Rapture, or you might find it hard to log in.

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So you're saying that he pushed you too far? but you still didnt want to HURT him... Oh, poor baby cry cry, dont hurt your friend.

Dont you think it would have felt mighty good when you feel your knuckles smacking his mouth? i mean, if you're gonna do it, you should do it properly..

What a retarded thing to do. Threatening to kill is always going to be a criminal offence for fucks sake.

To be honest, I dont feel the need to hit people, and people don't feel the need to hit me. All you have to do is be reasonable to people. Problem solved.

I hate violence too....but there are times to stand up.
That was, without a doubt the time.

What was it about?

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thats bullshit. you guys dont get it. ok, heres an easy way that everyone can understand. put yourself in those shoes (the ones where you are the person getting punched). If someone were to punch you in the chest, you probably wouldnt like it. If someone hit you in the face, youd probably see it as 10 times worse.

Listen, i wasnt out to "make it worth it" and like i said i didnt plan on hitting anyone anyway. I have a short temper and i cant easily think before i act when my temper gets the best of me. This thread wasnt about "making it count" and all i was really looking for was possibly some advice on what to do now. So i didnt directly ask that, but those were the feelings i was hiding. I usually punch the ground or walls, this time it was him and i regret it.

Boo hoo you say? Hey, check it out, this rhymes: fuck you. No i didnt want to hurt my friend. It was something i didnt think about too well when it was happening and something i regret. Think back to a few times where you have done the same, then try and advise me on how i should act when my temper gets the best of me.

Referring to me? The incident is on page two.
What started it was one of the girls boyfriend was crushing on me...and yes Warlock I tried to be reasonable...to no avail.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

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maybe your friend is gay and was crushin on you. sorry

i dunno me and my friends beat the shit out of wachother all the time. like bleeding and shit. i understand what your sayin about hittin him. i do the same thing. like today my friend gave me this big-ass purple nurple(titty twister) and i wanted to kill him but after the first hit in his gut it was cool. you just get caught up for that one moment then your angers gone.
btw its fun as hell to mosh with "hardcore dancers". like they're spinnin theri arms and they let you punch em in the face! one even came up afterwards and asked why i did it...

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haha. sorry, man, my bad. I actually did read your post completely before replying, but I also read a bunch of other people's posts, so it got a little blurry in the old cranium.
seriously, though, what's his fucking problem? you only punched him in the chest. I don't fight a lot, hell, hardly ever, but I have been punched in the chest a few times, and to tell you the truth, I kinda liked it. I felt the punch, I felt the power behind it, but the morons always punched me directly in the sternum, which is a very strong freakin bone. I was like, cool, this don't hurt at all, do it again bitch. my point is, your chest is probably one of the least vulnerable and least painful places to get punched in. besides the bone, most guys have some decent pecs to absorb the punches with, so I really don't see why he's being a fucking asshole about it.
A long time ago, when I was about 12-13, I had these two buddies that I walked to and from school with every single day. that was our thing, we always hung out after school. back then, I wore really thick glasses with large coke bottle bottom lenses, and was just the biggest nerd around. next to the word nerd in the dictionary there is a pic of me from those days. naturally, I was made fun of quite often. kinda got used to it after awhile. even my two buddies were making fun of me, especially this kid who was about my size. the other guy was a fatass who was bigger than the both of us. anyway, he just pissed me off to the point where I couldn't take it any more. so, we dropped our bookbags in the middle of the road, and went at it. he squared off with me, and went for the old push-shove intimidation technique. I never thought very highly of this bullshit manuver, so I punched him in the face. he didn't like this very much, so he got really angry and started swinging and flailing like an idiot. I punched him a couple more times, and then the fat kid broke us up. I didn't want to fight any more anyway, because I had made my point. he never made fun of me again, not in the way he had before, anyway. I never went around school bragging how I'd kicked his ass, because I had made my point, and that's all I ever wanted. he got a busted lip, and I got a little confidence boost. the next day, I walked to school with him again like nothing had ever hapenned. I could've acted like an asshole and not spoken to him, but I choose not to. I was friendly, and he was friendly in return. we remained good friends.
as you can see from the example above, this situation got quite a bit more heated than the one that you were in. but we were friends, so we simply got over it. I am not sure that this guy is worth calling a friend. you may just be better off without him. I've had people do much worse things to me, yet we still remained friends. it takes more than just a heated argument to ruin a good friendship. he's a fucking guy, a little pain is a good thing. like Chris said, it builds character. maybe the next time you see the douche, you should simply act friendly to demonstrate that the incident doesn't really mean much to you. if he simply ignores you like some fucking stuck up bitch, it's probably better that way. just in case, though, beat the living shit out of him, just for good measure. and recommend a sex change.

My first piece of advice would be not to come to a forum whose population is 75% high, 98% drunk, and 99% stupid and ask them for advice. All you are going to get is answers reflecting that they are high, drunk, and ridiculously fucking stupid. I can't believe you are actually getting mad at this guy's response. How can you get mad at somebody that out of the loop? It's like getting mad at a retard.

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I see Chris missed the discussion in which retards were bashed for infuriating some of our more even-keeled members.

I find chick fights arousing..

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I was home because I stormed off in a grumpy rage.

I didn't hit him because it absolutely caught me off-guard, the way he said it.
On the way to the rugby league I saw a prostitute on the tram, wouldn't have brought it up but she was so obviously a whore that it was worth mention.

"Hahaha, I saw a whore on the way to the footy the other night. She was *interrupted* "
"You saw Sharee?"

Anyway, I said he could kiss my sweet arse goodbye and after he apologised to both of us a few times, I said "stuff it I can't be arsed to hold a grudge."

Great story folks, tell that to your grandchildren



Why isn't he entitled to his opinion? Not siding with anyone, JUST CURIOUS. Keep in mind, he wasn't here when my shit was going on.

Don't ever expect to much from your 'friends'. Fuck them. I got one good mate and the rest are all gay. Learn that. Don't trust them to do what you think they will, don't get personal, don't put faith in them. They all talk about you behind your back anyway, everyone does. It's rare that you'll find someone dedicated enough to be your friend that you can properly trust, that won't blab shit about you and talk shit behind your back. I know these two guys that are friends more with each other than with me, but now and then one of the 2 will do something on the weekend with me. I've told this one that I think the other one is a retard. I don't hate the other one, there's no time for that, but I don't hang with people I don't like. We aren't enemies but we aren't friends. Anyway, the one I do shit with, all he ever talks about is how all this bullshit about how gay the other one is, behind his back to me. Whenever I get the chance to talk to the other one [we talk, as I said it's not like we hate each other] all he talks about is how gay the other one is. It so bullshit. I never speak shit about my friends. There's 1 guy that I would never talk shit about. Although I bet that he does about me, so I'm fooling myself.

People in general cannot be trusted.


That's my rant.

wow Infinity, you're one dark person

I trust a select bunch of friends, the real friends, you know? there's semi-friends too, I have a lot of those, haha. Though my best friends are all ace, I trust them with basically everything and that works vice-versa.

Though I'm not into trusting chicks too much yet, don't trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die

ah, well then it's a different story, as long as the guy apologized and shit. If someone deliberatly called my girl a whore I'de punch his lights out, unless it's a very good friend and he has reasons for it. (if those aren't valid, I'de still punch his lights out)

That's just fuckin' stupid. Don't argue, I should know stupidity when I see it. Me being stupid personified....

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but you're just a 14/15 year old tool

Fuckin' kids dude, violence violence violence, what is going on with the world? Atleast i was brought up not to trust anyone with a dick or a clit piercing.


The first part of that came out rather oddly.......

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Just like me. Close friends for the real stuff that I can trust them with things. Semi-friends are alright, but they won't know me inside-out and back-to-front. Again, I trust my girl with absolutely everything, but hardly other chicks at all. You never know when they will be a good friend to you or whether your stutter while asking out that hot busty European exchange chick, would make a juicy piece of gossip.



Like I said mate, it was one of my good friends which is why I was so stunned. If it was not a good friend person, they would have been enjoying the taste of a complimentary knuckle sandwich. And I don't deal those out very often.

Yes, Milo is grim and necro. I'd tell him that once we meet he is able to trust me, but I don't think he would believe me. Meh.

sounds fair enough!

the hot european exchange students are allways best though

Smart....mostly it's males that I see with more honest and open hearts. Less sugar coating and more reality. I have only two fem friends that I trust and have known both since we were all 5-6. Most other fems I know are full of shit.

7 days...haha
2 here with 4 as worst case senario.

I don't trust a woman who I'm with who doesn't bleed.

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Speaking of punching.....THIS TARD beats the SHIT out of himself.....the farther the vid goes....the harder he hits....hahahaha
Guys are too funny!
http://www.notworksafe.com/videos/v...atingSelfUp.wmv

Well, looks like something positive came out of this fucking thread after all. Write that down, kids.

BTW, a question for all of you. Who knows the definition of a perfect woman?
I'll be back with the answer probably tonight around 10:30-11:00, after I get off work.

Oh, man, this is great. The funniest part is when he hits himself on the nose, and goes Ow! hahaha, what a dumb fuck. Someone give him an award, and then beat the ever loving shit out of him, for good measure.

I'm sorry I missed it. In fact, I'm so sorry my grief can only be expressed via smiley-

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I know. I have a big problem in letting this friend go though. He is like my "partner" in music. Not only do we share the exact same taste for music, though i did help shape his about 4 years ago, we also have a strange interest in something id rather not mention... something thats not too broadly "accepted", and no, its not anything gay, sickos!! But yeah, i guess hes not worth calling a friend if he can all too easily cut off our friendship whenever he wants.


True. but i know that at least some of you can share some decent insight, so i figure its worth a try. But i really wasnt mad, just a little "excited", you know.


I completely agree. And not from this last incident ive just had. I can honestly say that i only trust 3 friends. One of them has been gone for months and no one knows where hes at, . Another is just a really trustworthy kind of guy. And... wait, i guess theres only two. sucks...

hehaaaaa! well, turns out the friend who caused this whole thread called me yesterday for my birthday, we now speak once again, and our band is back in business! next cover song: Insomnium!!!

The man is right. I'm beginning to lose all trust in my friends, or at least the ones that talk (there are 2 or 3 of my friends at school that barely say anything). With my friends, when they hang out, therye the kind of fuckers that, as soon as you walk out of the room, theyre gonna talk shit about something you said/wore/did. Hell, if you like the bands they do, theyre gonna be like "Fuck that, he's not a treu fan of them like I am." Two of my firends get like this with Deicide and Napalm Death. I broke the news of the Hoffmans' departure from Deicide, they were like "I'm pretty sure we know a lot more about Deicide than you do Mike, so shut the fuck up, they're touring, they couldnt have left." Then me and my friends from a band, they recruit me on bass because the guy who was supposed to be bassist was dragging ass on buying one so they recruited me. I leave my bass at his house, and i find out that they were like "adrians [supposed bassist] gonna be [using my] bass." and theyre USING MY FUCKING EQUIPMENT. Shit, I just thought we werent practicing because the guitarist or drummer was busy, but no, they dont call me to jam because the other dude is filling in on bass because he wanted to be the original bassist, and he sure as hell was a little pissed when I jumped to their invitation into the band. Hell, I find this shit out no more than a week later when a neutral party person went to see the jam and told me about it and i told them, "how can they jam if I'm right here and theyre playing with no bassist." So i show up and take all my shit mid-jam session and told them i was out of their band, hell they didnt seem to care, shit. they were only pissed because now theyre bassist didnt have a bass to play, like I was supposed to be their fucking equipment supplier. Yeah, I stopped trusting some of my friends. I wouldve started shit with them, but i wont stand a chance because theyre all bigger than me, well the would-be bassist is about my size. total bullshit

sorry for the nagging. Just agreeing on Infinity's post and having my two cents on it with my experience.

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I've had that same experience. Shit, If I didnt have a guitar amp, I swear they would have never let me in the band. (Poor fuckers didnt have an amp. So they mooch off me for 7 months.) I play bass, but they would always have another bassist there claiming to be my "failsafe". (If I got ill or something, he knew all the parts) Bullshit. I left that band as soon as I got word. Now I'm in this Thrash/Jazz band...I actually enjoy and trust the guys in this one.

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never leave your gear at someones house after the first jam, you should of brought at least your bass home, the first band i was in that happened to me, and the dudes in that band fucked up my drums. i have a friend who used to borrow gear off of people then smash it at shows, it totally sucks. i still play in a band where the members take thier guitars home, id probably otherwise break thier strings trying to play a slayer riff or some shit coz i like a good guitar to mess around on. i still have a few pedals that belonged to other people who left them then forgot about them, always watch your shit, especially at shows.

at one show i had to chase down a guy <who was in the opening band> whom walked off with OUR milkcrate that had ALL the pedals and chords for my band, "oops sorry i thought it was ours" i should of crane kicked him in the face

EDIT: oh yeah, trust nobody, especially when it comes to bandmates

Dammit dude That is sad. I know some people are thieves but the opening band? What an asshead; you should have kicked his ass! I have never really thought about leaving equipment behide before. I have done it, but only if I know the people. Otherwise nothing ever really leaves my sight. I trust people but I'm just to attached to my gear to leave it most times.

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new shit...

I was at a party last night. My friend, from before, got punched again. But this time it wasnt by me. It was by a little guy in a group of 4 who actually try to call themselves "latin kings". Even calling themselves a gang is pathetic, but then they use the name of an actual gang! Anyway, my friend had just done that "keg stand" shit, and when he came down this guy was like, "pussy". My friend told him "I dont see you doing it", and the guy replied, "Im not the one who volunteered". My friend hadnt volunteered by the way. He reminded the other guy of that. So i guess from then on he felt like my friend had "talked shit". Later on when those guys were leaving my friend said "later Gs". 2 came back and said "did you just call me a geek?" My friend told him he said "G" and the guy didnt like that either. He busted his lip. Now that was just a big mistake. In no time there are about 5 guys in that little shits face. One of our bigger friends missed the whole thing but i was kind enough to fill him in. Haha, he grunts "who punched robert". I pointed to the guy and our big friend smacked that guy in the face with a hard closed fist. We advised those Gs to leave and as they hoped in their truck i kindly showered it with large rocks. A parting gift, if you will. One guy got hit in the face so they stopped, and pulled out a paintball gun! They missed everyone though. Which is strange because there were shooting at a 30+ crowd from 20 feet away. Anyway, stupid shit huh.

Just imagine...soon their little "gang" might graduate with a real gun and this story could continue.
I hope it doesnt....but quite possibly could.
You guys watch your backs.

hah, yeah, but you cant even get away with pulling a knife on someone around here. i guarantee theyd have the cops on their ass if they so much as showed us a real gun. i almost got charges pressed on me for telling a guy i would kill him, though i wasnt serious. and i just denied doing it cause there were only two of his friends for witnesses.

The people I run with do not fuck around. That being said, learn to fight witout your fists, punching people can lead to broken hands. And broken hands lead to a life of no guitar for some people. Most people seem to be grossly under-educated about fighting these days. Which I use to my advatage, any dumbass who trys to punch me has already dedicated himself to that swing. He is now off balace, I simply move to the side after I have blocked his generic punch. I then step on the foot(or kick the side of the knee out) and have some fun. I prefer breaking people's bones over punching them. When you break someone's legs, you leave the fight satisfied....knowing you will remain victorious.

Be careful who you fuck with. Just the other night me and 4 of my friends had to "take care of" a situation. We had a knife threat called by one of our opponents. A knife? I wish more people would pull knives on me, that way I would have the right to kill him. Use the law to your advatage. On thing about the internet is, don't tell people about illegal things you did. Like fighting, be smooth about it.

Be smart about fighting, train so that every enemy is strong, faster and smarter that you....if you do that....you may succeed.

My weapon of choice in a fight remains intelligence. Followed by flammable substance.

You sound like all the guys in this family. When Denny was at the bar one evening right after work which is generally a mellow time, some a-hole was in there running his mouth and half-trashed. He started in with threats. Denny creatively told him the error of his ways, but a little while later the guy was back at it and took a swing at Denny. Denny punched him. The cops got called. The guy was taken away while Denny sat and drank his beer. He's good friends with the owner so there was no question who was to blame. He goes and leaves early just to avoid the dumb situations. They usually don't happen til later at night, but that's a whole different crowd then.

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Every time some insipid shitbag tells me to cut my hair, I confront them. I intimidate alot of people, and it's almost a disadvatage cause some guy is going to get his friends all together and beat my ass. Even so, I have been outnumbered in fights, and 3-4 of them usually just kinda stand there while the other 2-4 will take swings at me.

It is better to be knowledgeable about fighting and never fight, then have no knowledge and constantly fight. Having a concealed weapons liscence also opens up your options in a situation like LBXXX's aforementioned bar scenario.

Well, so far that hasn't been necessary, but he used fight as a kid, boxed Golden Gloves like his dad, went overseas a lot in the Navy and there was always brawls, plus taking karate for awhile, and having common sense when it's needed always helps. Besides he trained early having 2 older brothers and an older sister that wouldn't take anyone's crap.

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i heard they changed the law in florida concerning concealed permitted guns, basically you can use them as self defense against people, so say you get sorrounded by some people, one hits you, you can shoot him, if they all attack you can shot them all and be protected by law. anywhere else your ass is locked up for murder

i used to carry drumsticks in my sachel as a self-defense weapon, luckily never used them. i had this idea once of getting a roll of french bread, letting it get stale till its solid as a rock then putting fiberglass resin glase on it,then wood stain it back to looking like an ordinary roll of bread, it'll be strong as hell. carry this thing around like its a sword or some shit. good thing i never followed thru on it

i ride a bmx so i got a quadchain and lock, comming home every night after work theres usually a confrontation somewhere, either im seeing other people getting into it, or im being taunted by someone from a car or nearly being hit by a car, usually never escalates to violence. the other day some guy nearly ran me over<side swiped> and i caught him at a stop sign, rammed him from the side and cursed him out, im dead serious when it comes to sharing the road with cars, if they fuck with me i will pursue them to the next red light and give them a piece of my mind, i felt bad for ramming that one guy but its hard not to get bent about it. i could be ground up to human hamburger easily, killed by some assholes apathy in respect to like 2 feet on each side of road allotted to pedal bikes by LAW. even cops fuck with you on the road honking the foghorn, revving the engine behind you, noone gets respect on a pedal bike here, the chain i have has more to do with protecting myself against crazies than by locking up the thing, the bike itself is worthless

Funny story about the weapons. I would not get locked up if someone was to pull a gun on me and I just so happened to draw my gun faster. I however have no real need to carry a wepaon since well....I'm just too garsh darn smart eyuck. Kidding...but I choose to study fighting and self defense rather than carry a gun or stale piece of bread as a weapon.

I don't know if I told anyone here this but some gangster fools threatened me and 4 of my friends, and their women with a knife. I am not afraid of some dumbass with a knife. I carry a large knife sometimes, and would never draw it. It is a family relic, made for skinning animals not people.

For the most part, fighting occurs when two or more idiots cross paths.

Oh yeah this happens to people in my band all the time. My singer constantly beats the shit out of me. I dont fight back because he likes to get pissed off about that shit. I dont care though. Its not worth losing a bandmate/best friend over.

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