The odds at Centrebet are only $1.05 (odds on 21 to 20!!) to the stinking fucking lying bastard Labor party. Are your Conservatives really that ineffective? And who's going to be the Prime Minister?

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The Tories are ridiculous, they really are and the Liberal Democrats mean well but would probably be in too deep if they ever got into parliament. There are a whole host of single-issue parties like the UK Independence party and the Greens who don't have a chance and so that leaves Labour.

For me, Labour have done well domestically in the last 8 years. Blair's foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired, ie, his head is so far up George Bush's arse that he can read his shirt label with minimal fuss. The war in Iraq was a major mistake, no doubt about it, but the economy is doing well despite that rapid imbecile across the pond being determined to destroy every other country's fiscal integrity by means of idiotic foreign policies.

The only issue I don't agree with Labour over is the introduction of tuition fees for university students. Seeing as I'm not a filthy, scrounging student any more, this issue has less impact on me but it is still a policy that will bite me on the arse should any of my potential offspring want to follow in my footsteps.

However, Labour are the best bet in the election. Sure, life isn't perfect - and it won't be under any government - but our hospital waiting lists are the lowest for decades, unemployment is falling and if you believe the lies, damned lies and statistics, recorded crime is also falling.

I can't see how the Tories can better what Labour are doing, which is essentially what the Tories would be doing if they were in power. what I'm more worried about is the cynicism of the election campaign. UK car giant Rover has recently gone to the wall and the government has provided money to help workers with redundancy pay. I know that if my firm was to implode, the goverment wouldn't help us so why help Rover? Call me an old cynic but there's about 6,000 votes to be won at that Rover plant.

Anyway, vote Labour.

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I knew you'd be the first person to reply to this, JM. 31 views and one reply. Fucking Yankees. So the only things left to fix are scallies and all y'all dreadful teeth?

What will be the fate of Captain Bligh, I'm sorry, Blair?

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Hah, being a stupid American, I have no knowledge of British politics

hey john, i very much agree with you, i think labour have done a lot for england and if we went back to conservative rule, england would definetely go down the plug hole. I think lib dems are very good, but i think they need a stronger leader. I think its very improtant that the conservatives dont get into power as all they'll support will be the rich and everyone else will be seriously fucked over.

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I don't know my ass from my elbows when it comes to British politics. I'm half wondering why you are so informed despite living underneath the rest of the planet.

When you say scallies, are you referring to scally caps, by chance?

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Because we're a British colony, Gumby. We get all their shit here. And I'm exceptionally well informed on most things *pat* *pat*.



No. Someone English want to take this? I suggest use of the words "radge" and "cunts".

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Im a part of the same British colony and I know verry little of the british political system, only that it runs on 2 parties, similar to ours and that Blair is in at the moment (though I do not know what party he is from).

Maybe you are just more worldly than the rest of us sane.

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+1

If the conservatives got in, I wonder who would become minister for hare hunting?



The fact that the American media almost never seems to talk about anything that doesn't involve America probably has something to do with that. I'm sure you knew that anyway.

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Yes, indeed. Scally (pl. Scallies) is just a colloquial term for an undesirable person who usually indulges in illegal activity or rather menacing behaviour. Or as FBS said, little cunts.

As for Blair, I would be very surprised if he didn't stand aside mid-way through his inevitable third term and allow Gordon Brown to succeed him. It seems to be what the whole nation is expecting and is more a matter of when rather than if.

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Hmm, sounds like Howard and Costello down here........

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The British elections do involve America, Cloaca. And you can find out simple things such as that Blair's Labour (sic) on any news channel you like. Though we are notoriously ethnocentric, we actually do realize that there's a world outside our borders. We just think it all sucks.

Ok. Well as far as american news goes, I don't often see anything else besides Good Morning America. I can't believe people make big signs just so "mom" will know that she's loved when she watches that black dude say "Today's Forecast: Sunny in the north, rainy in the east, windy in the west etc."

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When you call me 'Gumby', are you accusing me of being a cartoon character made of out green play-dough? Or are you accusing me of being those guys on Monty Python who wear fisherman's galoshes, short pants, sweaters, suspenders, and Hitler/Chaplin mustaches who always yell? Those guys kick all sorts of ass.

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bloody elections, we get the choice of a lying american-arse kissing smiling blair who seems to hold british referendems in the whitehouse, and has said he will step down before the end anyway, or conservative micheal howard, who is most probably going to do exactly the same with less competence. and besides, he is conservative. or parties who focus their attention on one thing, and will not win. and not one of which in my area has got a level headed aproach to there particular issue.


I feel almost as guilty about supporting one of the major parties as I would do about not voting.

well, my vote will do little difference where i am as the lib dems will once again gain a huge majority.

wheres the monster raving looney party when you need them

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If that was the intended insult then it can't be translated as one.

As for this topic, I'd have to agree with John on everything.

My arse mate. I don't see what Labour hopes to achieve with their tuition fees policy, but alas...they are the only real party I would, if i was registered, find myself voting for.....despite the hypocrisy running rampant through every word uttered by crazy hands Mr. Blair.


On the scall issue, refer to here http://www.chavscum.co.uk/

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I loved that party! They were 16 million to 1 against to win the election several years ago. Screaming Lord Sutch was a fucking riot.

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isn't he dead?

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Yeah, he died a couple of years back.

This week, Jeremy Paxman (quite an aggressive interviewer) asked Tony Blair if he knew how many illegal asylum seekers were in Britain. Twenty times. He still didn't get an answer that approached even a guestimate. I love politicians.

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they're still going...

2005 manifesto

they are some of the best policies I have ever read.

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I love Jeremy Paxman, newsnight is the alternative to most late night television nowadays, though i am enjoying that "Election Unspun" thing on channel 4. The only other thing i don't like about the labour party, you know apart from the lying and the dubious policies....is, and let's face it:- Deputy PM John Prescot reminds me of Bernard Manning in a suit, compare him to Gordan Brown who reminds me of Terry Jones.....just seems like an unstable mix.

Tony - "No Gordan, you're not being the deputy"
Gordan(in a terry jones woman voice) - "Why not?"
Tony - "Cos the other one is a northern moron who appeals to the common moronic, easy to patronise and mislead idiots we are aiming at. You know, the kind of people who would believe us about anything...and let's face it, he talks on their level anyway....you don't"
Gordan (leathal chocolate sketch voice)- "It's a fair cop...."
Enters John Prescot
John - "Ooooh by gum!! Those fuckers with dose eggs, i dun ger it, stuper basterds, hate der fuckin' lot of 'em" - wipes egg of coat -
John, now with a Homer Simpson esque dohnut smile, - "Still, ter what it be about"
- the fires of hadeas ignite behing Tony's chair in sinc with his demonic smile -

Fuckin' bully boy Tony Blair.

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Have you seen his weather reports? Hilarious! One simply went: "It's April, what do you expect?"

As for John Prescot, has even got a use besides keeping the House of Commons canteen in business?

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polling day today!
Im going to ruin my ballot. none of the candidates have persuaded me.

though I did have an idea about how the tories could have won easily.

" a vote for Blair is a vote for Bush "

for those who are willing to say, how did you vote?

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I unfortunatly couldn't vote because my registry form thingy was left with my old flatmates, and probably used as a tea coaster, so i don't have anything to send off or owt.

I would've gone Lib Dems though....

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I'm not able to vote as I am nowhere near my polling station for the duration that it's open. I've been out of the house on my way to work since 7:15 am and I won't get back until gone 11:30 pm after the pool game.

Probably would have voted Labour though - I don't think the Lib Dems could handle the power, even though some of their policies are extremely likeable, and the Tories... Well, who remembers the 80s?

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If i can be bothered, i'll go the polling station and just see what the options are, It won't be Labour or Conservative, like Amon rA, they haven't persuaded me.

I think you can vote without your polling card.



the Lib Dems have been in power for longer than the Tories and Labour combined, just not since 1900.

thats bad that niether of you will vote. "your voice" and all that. but I suppose liverpool is a strong labour seat anyway.

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I do, only decent kids TV ever aired......*sigh*...dang i miss the real ghostbusters. If any party would promise to bring back cult 80's cartoons....i'd vote for them.

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The Liberals have, but the Liberal Democrats didn't form until after WWI, I believe. Either way, I'm splitting hairs. I don't think they could handle being in power. Their main pulling power is being seen as the party that is honest - and it is, for the main part - about it's policies on tax rises, spending and borrowing. However, this is their downfall as they are in a position where they can afford to say these things without actually having to carry them out due to the fact that they knw they are not going to topple Labour. So reserve a touch of deep-rooted scepticism about them, which is enough for me not to vote for them.

I'm not that sceptical of Labour because they have delivered on many of their pre-election promises from 1997. The only aberration is tuition fees, so you could say I possess a superficial scepticism.

To be fair, I've not voted in the past and I've not complained either. The only time I would reserve my right to complain at a political party is if I disagree with the party that I would've voted for.

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so, you wont vote Lib Dem because they haven't/arent going to be in power?
but Lib Dem wont get power without votes. thats kind of mean.
I think I probably agree with you though.

I met the local Lib dem(currently winning here) candidate last week, and he was an idiot. everything I said, he just talked loudly over the top.

actually I met all of them at a hustings, and the only one who wasnt a nasty small minded twerp was the green party candidate. who was so stupid I managed to win an argument with him when I was rolling drunk.

as far as Labour goes, i have a fundamental belief that education should be 100% free. I also seriously oppose the I.D. cards. other than that i would back them.

in short, there will never be a candidate who will completely please me, because i disagree with my neighbour. but so far every single one has irritated me. politics are so hard, because nobody knows the entire inner workings of government, knowbody will ever understand which candidate is really the best option.

its a sad fact that Joe Blogs will place his vote based largely on the charismatic qualities of the party leader.

actually, I'm so fed up with politics, I'm planning on standing next time.
anyone fancy putting up my deposit?

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Nah, it's more down to the fact that they themsleves don't believe they can get into power and so include imaginitive election promises that they know they will never have to keep.



I think people are more likely to vote according to what The Mail or The Mirror say. Newspapers are exceptionally vital to any party and their backing can make or break an election campaign.

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The last part of that sounds like Labour, but they know they'll be in power.

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That depends on what your policies will be

yes absolutely. thank god for the impartial BBC and its counterparts, or else we would have an election based on who can afford to pay the media the most.
but notice how the phrases "theres something of the night about him", and "hes a liar" identify the party leaders much quicker than some of the less debated policies.
all the most famous world leaders have a certain quality to their public appearance. certain people can draw you in to them just by speaking. (the most obvious examples being Churchill, M.L. King, and Hitler, and the opposites being steve "interesting" davis, that bloke from through the keyhole, and old stuffy history teachers.)
which is also why certain parties spend altogether far too much time and effort on characture defamation.




what would you like to know?
I couldn't write a whole manifesto down here.
my main fighting points would be a better standard of living for the population, local & national growth of educational & cultural activities and facilities, and the implementation of the better lessons history has given us. coupled with a sensible approach to other affairs, a rational and logical viewpoint of expressed areas, relating to various political stances over a wide range of topics. there is never a perfect answer to everybody, but I will find the best possible posative action in every circumstance possible.
(have I bored you to tears yet? good then ill carry on)
i believe we have a fundamental unseen problem in britain, which is, if not the cause, then certainly a catalyst to most issues people are concerned with.

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wow. labour won.

If I hear Tony Blair say "its clear the voters wanted a labour government, but with a smaller majority" again I am personally going to get really irritated.
do people really go out and say, "well i want labour to win, but not by so much, so ill vote for sombody else"?

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