Why do "metalheads" seem to think they're better than other people because of their taste in music? Why do some hate people so much that listen to pop, rap, nu metal, etc? I don't see the point in isolating yourself. Oh well maybe I'm just exaggerating and no one will agree...

its not that their metalheads, its that their intolerant people. yes its annoying, but just ignore people like that if they dont have anything inteligent or helpful to say. let them continue to live ignorantly, eventualy theyll realise how stupid they are.

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i find that to be quite the oppsite, at least with all the ones i have known especially in musicall tastes, we can sit down and blast the usually death metal black, thrash ect, but them put on some queen, mozart hell even oldies from the 50 60 and still be just as content.

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I think you need to try to not be so sensitive. There's a difference between hating something for a reason, and hating it because you have an ego. I hate other stuff because it gives me a headache.

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not sure.
just, most every other kind of music seems obsolete (to me , of course)
I listen on the radio and nothing else seems to be written well, make sense musically, is music made by a computer, etc. Just doesn't seem like theyre as good of musicians as metal. Of course metal isnt the hardest genre to play.. fuck classical guitar is probably the hardest guitar style, and I dig a lot of classical guitar piece. Classical piano pieces are awesome too.
Yes I'm a bit narrow minded to more popular genres, but I really go for musical talent when look for bands I like, and I'd say the average popular musical group doesnt deliver enough for me to like them. Sure, not all metal acts are super great musicians, but its also the sense of underground-ness; that you dig a band because not a lot of people have heard of them.

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When I joined the BBS.....I had visions of intelligent and caring people in mind....people with a level of slight insanity (from years of head banging) and sensitivity....monstrous senses of humor.....for these are the qualities that most of my Metal friends posses in real life......as of late I have notice an alarming amount of moronic "boys" judging and posturing and strutting around here calling people rude names simply because of a personal like for a specific band/song.......guys calling females moronic names because of their own inadequcies....thank goodness there are more cool guys here though that can be fellow metal heads and not internet dickheads.

Metal Tabs is awesome.

ps. I know I spell horribly....and really dont care, I did well in school but went to a massively sub standard school system.....a fucking cinderblock could have graduated from there.....and I'm WAY to narcissistic to use SpellChecker.....LMAO

I do find it nifty that you seperate bits with hordes of dots.

On the topic, I am not sure what you specifically mean by intolerant. Personally, I don't particularly enjoy anything that is pop-culture, but it doesn't mean I go out of my way to destroy it, but then again I do bad mouth pop bands too, relating to their skill at the music they perform. It is true that many metal heads are eletists, just look at the black metal world. But hey, I generally don't leave the room when there is music I consider to be crap on, so does that make me tollerant by your standards?

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I hate it when people look at me wierd when I say Thiller was a good album. Now I know I'm not the only "metalhead" here who is secure with his musical taste, am I?

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no i was refering to people that dont even give other music a chance, which is what i thought Kalmah was kinda trying to say at first.

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yea

I was refering to those who seem to think you should only listen to metal. Like my "friend" Adam aka: hatethyenemies, whom I introduced death metal to and now thinks you should stick to one type of music. Granted, Michael Jackson and Prince is the only music I like outside the rock category, and I only like one album from each (Thiller and Purple Rain). Bit if all I listened to were really heavy music all the time, I would go insane. And when I tried to introduce him to Type O Negative and was all like, "That's too soft. I like heavy shit." Which is like the stupidest thing I ever heard. The guy hates Type O, but will listen to HIM anyday.

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Would it be wrong for me to dismiss Nirvana as being shit after hearing 2 or 3 songs?
Is ut wrong for me to make generalisations about a genera based upon a couple of the leaders of that genera, and then make exceptions as more information comes to had?

In relation to black metal I am the latter, I decided this after listening to horrendusly terrible songs by bands such as Immortal, CoF and Dimmu. I feel from those I can take a general gauge of what the genera is like and then dismiss it as a whole. Though I will ocasionally listen to songs if someone suggests them. Is this what you are refering to, since I categorise anything as black metal to be shit rather than listening to it on a band by band basis?

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That probably wasn't directed at me, but if you don't like black metal I don't mind. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There are quite a number of black metal bands, just like any other style, that have no creativity in their sound what so ever and I can see why people look down on the music. I only listen to certain black metal and metalcore bands if its creative or different. Actually, I find if metalcore is done right that it's almost my favorite of any kind of metal because so much can be done with it's sound that it shouldn't all sound the same, but yet most of it does. But that's just me talking.

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I really hate nirvana..

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Yeah I hate this too. I have friends that are metalheads and they think every other music genre is gay. It's like if it's not Slayer or Sabbath, then it's gay. Every once in a while (big ass once in a while but..) I like to listen to something different like blues or some punk.

Most "metalheads" I know listen to anything and everything as far as genres go. I think the hate is mostly for Nu-Metal type bands and other juvenile bands that are basically still at garage band level musically but are getting lucrative contracts because of their image. These bands are often the result of more experienced songwriters, producers, marketers, and engineers who stay in the background and like to create a successful band from a bunch of unknown punks in order to increase their own profit margins and maintain creative control over the group. Most genuinely talented and down to earth bands don't seem to get serious recognition until their career is already on the downhill slope or over.

I like bands in every genre and I also despise bands in every genre.

MyOwnSavior - It wasn't ment as an insult to you or anybody who likes BM, it was meerly using myself as an exmple to comment about generalistion on music genera.

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I'm able to listen to almost anything. I like metal and old rock by far the best but I don't mind listning to a rap or reaggie song every now and then. In between classes (recess?) at school there normally isn't played much metal exept occasationally Metallica, Iron Maiden or Motörhead. Bob Marley and that kind of stuff gets the most playing. I like bob marley, at least some of his songs. Sometimes there is played stuff like Eminem (wich I do like), 50 cent (wich I hate) or some stuff like that, I don't mind that either. There aren't a lot of metalheads in the school, there are about 4 I think, and one poser.
At home I listen mostly to metal but about once a month I like to listen to other stuff like eminem, dr. dre, the killers and stuff like that.
My favourite unmetal stuff is probably The Bloodhound Gang, The Presidents Of The United States Of America and Lynyrd Skynyrd.

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High School mentality. Personally, I listen to everything, from Ice Cube (yes, old school rap does rule) to Mr. Bungle to Carcass to Primus. That said, I really can't grasp any new rock and such. Oh, and the "Avante-garde" music listeners are incredibly snobbish to no end, that's worth mentioning.

I'm open to almost anything which has guitars in it. I hate all this bullshit of electronic music, trance and techno whatever - it's the worst music i've ever heard in my life.

I'm more open to rap, I find some of it quite enjoyable - but it's not what I would spend money on. (usually)

here are two perspectives

1. metal heads are the most open people on the planet.if you can sit through a malevolent album then you are pretty open minded. so, like demon said, you can listen to anything else and probably like it too.

2. people who like metal have little interset in low quality, purely hook based music. and people who like slipknot, to me at least, are purley OFFENSIVE. those people are lowly scum who havent earned the right to listen to anything other than what fuse tells them is the newest, heaviest stuff. i went through a nu metla phase, but only becuase there was a time i didnt know death metal existed. all i ever wanted was death metal , but i didnt know such a thing was around so i listend to limp bizkit. soon enough, within months,i moved on. most people that listen to nu metal are not in the transition stage and are happy with slipknot, which is disgraceful

if you like rap, you are useless.

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haha, I never had a nu-metal phase, instead from rap/classic rock I started listening to black metal, etc, etc.

Some Non-Gangster rap is enjoyable, but the vast majority of all rap, is shite. A lot of rap artists nowadays are just record label whores.

Yeah, the vast majority of all music is shite, but I gotta admit most of the rap I like is gangster rap. Tupac's "Hit 'em up" is a perfect example. You could potentially get shot for listening to that song in the wrong neighborhood, but it still kicks ass musically. I actually witnessed a bloods/crips fight that moved from the orchestra section to the stage and put an early end to a Snoop Dogg show at Coors Ampitheater a few years ago. It was a pretty freakish experience. Especially since we were all

My friends are about EVERYTHING SUCKS kind of thing. If the vocals arent gutteral, it sucks. If the vocalist does a falsetto every now and then, it sucks. If it doesnt do the repetitive pounding of the snare-drum, you're pushing it. Some of them like that power-violence stuff, not that its bad, but songs that range from 14-40 seconds is complete utter shit in my book. I admit that i had a nu-metal phase back in the 6th grade (99-00; i didnt start getting into metal until mid 9th) and i used to go to Hot Topic, until idiots overran it and the shit to do was to listen to punk-rock (by what i mean punk-rock is anyband that spiked their hair and was fast, hell in the 7th grade i heard someone call Metallica punk ) I was into Deftones, Disturbed and Korn, then started to progress and listen to heavier music with much, much more talent. Then i would wander around and hum a tune in my head and let my teeth do the drums. Then i find out a few months ago that ive been humming different parts of Pull the Plug by Death. Every now and then I listen to some punk or instrumental guitar playing, and then hit my roots with some Marimba cds from Guatemala, or drunken mariachi ballads my dad has from back in Guatemala. Otherwise, I look for talent or speed in music i listen to. The genre i have a distince hate in is Emo or anything related to emo and this new-wave of hXc, mainly the fans fed my hate because most of these newly spawned hXc fans have never heard of Agnostic Front or Cro-Mags.



Prove that.

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THAT is the type of thing i'm talking about

i hate rap, niggers, spicks, wet backs, pop , country, and techno.

you were banned for a reason

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YOU FOOL GET THE FUCK OUT!

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what did i do ?? isn't this the chit chat area ?

I don't like it. I can be pretty tolerant of people that don't listen to metal, but if they listen to shitty metal, I tend to get on their case.

Because everyone must be judged by their taste in music.. duh.

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I bug the shit out of Emo and nu-metal kids.
everything else,I give a fist-fuck about.
I'm actually friends with many 2pac lovers,but have to kick it with the 5 metalheads at school.
Hate music not because it's not metal,but because it's crappy.
If it's decent,none important of genre,I like it,I like even an oldie in spanish my mother listents to.Ay amoooooor diviiiiiiino!!!!

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music is a little hinged on costume,prefab culture. has been since rocknroll came to be, its very wierd if you think about it


i grew up at the very end of those 80's jean jacket,mullet, embroidered patch days, where at hot topic or "hot tops" as it was called in the day they actually had all the original iron maiden, metallica,slayer and megadeth tees and tour shirts, i once had the iron maiden comemorative t-shirt, it had almost all the eddies from their albums, very rare, but hot tops or hot topic was an actual screen printing place with decent band shirts to sell 10 12 years ago, nowadays i cringe just looking in the display, they created a consumer market for young people with idenity crisises, people who feel compelled to dye thier hair and wear those bondage circus tent pants. after a while only the t-shirts are worth wearing,believe me, seeing a 30 year old man with a bullet belt and is a walking billboard with patches sewed in and spiked everything is a little odd. you get this in big cities, face tattooed punk/metal/cruster transient homeless dudes who are like 30 and are usually drunks or drug addicts who have a serious death wish. these 2 extremes<oogles and gutter dudes> is why im not really genre specific and in the fashion aspect of music. its a bogus pretext to how people relate to one another, it eclipses the fact that a person is not solely defined by what they wear and own

cool,low-tech don't post again,right now you have exactly 123 posts.

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never mind,go up to 666!!!!!!!

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or 420

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95% of what I listen to is metal, and mainly Death Metal/Grindcore at that. The music that I hear on the radio at work generally lacks musicianship, and needs the vocals to make the song even the slightest bit interesting.
I can certainly appreciate classical and jazz music, but it lacks the fury of metal, so I don't get into it as much.

And Kalmah, what about all the rappers/hip-hoppers etc being intolerant of metal? It's not metalheads that think they're better than everybody else, EVERYONE thinks they're better than everybody else. Including me. I rule.

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there,now I'm at 123

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Good point, most of the kids at my school listen to rap and they are more intolerant than I am.

why do you base your opinion on a fucking website?

because there are several "metalheads" on this website

yep. somebody who listens to fiddy wouldnt give an opeth song a listen, so im not going to do them any favors either. plus, along with the rap music comes the attitude and disrespect.

yeah, there are people that like rap and are actually decent, but im not interested in meeting them

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that would also be like comparing a cave man banging a rock (rap) to mozart (opeth)

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yeah, its arrogant, but i stand by it. probably really really frustrating to some of you "open your mind" people

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my minds open enough, i dont have to except everything

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i am one of those intolerant people.
theres lots i cant stand.
any emo, rap, pop, industrial, punk, nu-metal, technohousegaragegabba, i dissmiss as rubbish. to name a few.
however, not because of the genre, but because they really are shit.
i believe music is one of the better things to judge someone on, along with political views, strength of religion, intelligence, and "hes a nice bloke".
if i find someone who will only listen to gangsta rap, i will probably decide on the spot that they are worthless.
however, i would make the same judgement on someone who only listens to metal.

in my opinion, people who listen to music for any of these reasons are the scum of the earth.
1. everybody else listens to it
2. its makes me look cool
3. its rebellious
4. puff daddy got shot!
5. they are the heaviest band in the world!
6. they changed the face of modern music
7. the media has rammed it down their throat


do not be fooled into thinking that musical retardedness only applies to emo, nu-metal, pop etc. many people i know listen to classic rock, or death metal for reasons other than the music.
most people do not base their musical tastes on music. i recently had a conversation with someone who i had great respect for their musical opinion, an old man who had been there when the beatles were just starting out, he likes a lot of very good music from the 60's, and will listen to pantera, and has good reasons not to like iron maiden. he revealed some gobsmacking truths to me, but now i know, i can share them with you. apparently, U2 is shit because "bono is a twat", and the beatles are brilliant because "they changed the face of modern music". and there i was thinking that U2 were crap because their songs are simplistic and boring, and the beatles were brilliant because they wrote some brilliant songs (and some bloody awful ones).

incedentally, some of my favourite bands/albums/songs include in no particular order
gangstas paradise - coolio
the darkness
jethro tull
soad (the one with the hand)
prodigy - fat of the land
jeff beck - all of them
forgot about dre.
blur
slipknot (the marlon brando song)
killswitch
J.S. & C.P.E. Bach
the beatles
roy wood (the move, wizzard)

others include

pantera
machine head (first two albums)
arch enemy
cannibal corpse
deicide
manowar
dimmu borgir
dying foetus
iron maiden
motorhead
ozzy osbourne
motley crue
megadeath
alice in chains
lamb of god


sorry for the long post, i just get carried away with this subject

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Because they're thick, stolid, braindead white people. Without exception. Always. I don't generalise.



A rhyming Haiku:

Some things will not stand
Decency in high demand
Re-ban the TranMan

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haha good work fbs, some calm writing as opposed to your usually "blow a vein from the other persons stupidity" writing

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I can listen to anything that takes talent and effort and skill to play, I can easily listen to Jazz, Classical etc. but listening to pop crap with a drum machine, Autotune pluggins for the singers, etc. I can't listen to that shit because it is manufactured, it is not created, it follows almost a recipe, I know you could apply that to say slayer but not in the same way, when I say it follows a recipe, it is for one thing to make money, get a good looking female give her a drum machine, a looped guitar track and Auto tune software, give her easy listening subjects (love boyfreinds etc.) and there you have a pop succes as long as you advertise it in the right way. you don't get that in metal

you get bands working their asses off gigging in shitty venues with crappy PA systems sweating their arses off giving ever drop of energy and sweat they can muster to the crowd, You get bands recording at 3 AM in the morning in a room the would be considered too small for a sadistic torture chamber, you get people who blow off people they love for the music they play. you get dedication and commitment and songs that will be played and sung for decades after you, rather than discarded everytime the wind changes.

That is why I am such an intolorent git to most of the popular styles.

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1. everybody else listens to it
2. its makes me look cool
3. its rebellious
4. puff daddy got shot!
5. they are the heaviest band in the world!
6. they changed the face of modern music
7. the media has rammed it down their throat

those should be the 7 commandments for not listening to music,oh boy,not making sense.But you get me right?

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yeah because the point of music is listening to it because you like how it sounds

but if everything where like that then everyone at mtv and vh1 and hollywood wouldnt be filthy rich. i wonder what music would be like if mtv and all that never came to be...all well known music would defiantly be well thought out and shit, unfortunatly unlike lots of music toady.

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With no MTV,rap would still be truly ghetto and they would probably still use drums for their beats and P diddy wouldn't be such a disgrace.Limp Bizkit would be gone and Bam wouldn't have gotten his dumbass show and boy,I'd be a lot happier with out the Real world,if it's the real world,how come no one puts me in a house with 2 fags,2 lesbos,2 jocks,2 blacks and all of them beautiful.

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its the fucking internet. most people here just act more gay then they usually do in public because they're hiding behind their computer screen.

Or tougher,

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The root cause of so many problems.

Metalheads are like anyone else with a classification - gay.

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Why would you be a lot happier without the real world? How does a television show affect your well being...no one is forcing you to watch it...

Exactly.

I dislike Emo/Alternative/pop et cetera because of the lack of connection betweeen the player and their instrument. Its like they want to be on stage all dressed up with makeup and all, and the guitar or bass is just along with the ride. Watch Blink 182 play a live concert and watch how they interact, play, and hold their guitars, then watch Suffocation live and see what they do, and compare. Whole different world.



And the dislike of another genre because of the headache thing, I understand, whenever I hear most country music and newer alternative, it makes me uneasy and makes me squirm in my seat. And sometimes, I DO get a headache.

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We had to listen to Moby in art class today. I don't care who you are, the only thing on my mind was how to get the guy to shut up.

I hate when my art teacher plays the radio during class.

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That often happened at my school....until the same three guys kept sabotaging and destroying the radio.
One guy....he set it to the most decent station and squirted a tube of superglue into the dial control.....one guy actually stole his radio once.
Teacher eventually gave up.....and silenece is much better than Phil collins/genisis any day.

hey now, lay off Phil Collins!

genesis is an amazing band and you can't justify hating them because "they have no talent"

Did I say HATE?
No.

its implied

Hmm, I like that glue idea.

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Classic. I personally won't dog out Genesis even though I'm not a big fan, but Phil Collins is pure evil...

haha Kylito, that's some fucked up shit you got there (from your sig) - what the hell is that? Your band?

Again...I have zero hate for people I've never met.

But I stand firm....I'd rather hear silence than "Sussudio" or "Invisible Touch"

actually yes,I live in a small house and my cousin was staying here for like 2 months and used to watch that shit with me there,so I'd have to pretty much watch it.

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Usually, metal is my preferred choice of music but sometimes you're not always in the mood for metal. That's when I usually turn to some classical and also a lot of oldies funk/soul, even jazz. Just the other day, I was listening to Muse. I like MUSIC.

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Yes, its fucking hypocritical considering we are tired of taking shit for listening to metal. I listen to alot of different shit, so I generally don't get it as much as I used to.

The truly intolerant ones are the nu-metal kids. Kids like the Slipknot Maggots who think there is one genre: Sl1pkn0t. Fucking kids these days.

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I think everyone can agree that rap/hip hop is being forced on us. Aren't you ever on the computers at school only to have some ignorant little "playa" blasting his fiddy cent. That is why I hate rap, because I've heard it so God damn much. I'm talking about those gangsta's that ride around in there car blasting the music incredibly loud with their windows open.

Has anybody noticed that "urban street" bandwagon everybody seems to be eagerly jumping on? I'm talking about those people with those annoying God damn accents (and everybody knows they could talk normally if they wanted too) that blatantly defile the english language. I can't watch a movie any more without those annoying black jokes. They still think it's funny to have white people pretending to be black in movies. Has anybody seen shark tale? I don't want to watch a movie about a fucking fish that looks exactly like Will Smith and talks like the most stereotypical african american possible.

Thirdly are the "rap battles." 50 cent BRAGS about being shot (something like) 9 times. Man, i'd be glad to up that number a few. He even started some little kerfuffle with "The Game" which was obviously a publicity stunt. The lyrics they put in songs to battle each other are hilarious too.

I went more platinum than you,
you never even got a million foo.

Seriously...I read lyrics along those lines. By the way, I don't mean to offend any african americans here, nothing against you...unless you play your music really obnoxiously.

EXACTLY shred is goddamn right,that's my point of view on rap,
the worst shit about it is that it's a TREND,nothing more.
also,the black jokes.Oh god,it's like,Chapelle did it and now it's a fuckin trend.Betcha even HE is tired of it.
Not tryin to be racist but,in Chris Rock words:
"I love black people,but I HAAATE NIGGAZ"

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Yes. I finally got the "that's some fucked up shit" response I was hoping for. I'm pretty sure that was my intention all along and now you've put it into words for me. We kicked the drummer out 6 months ago, but hopefully we'll get movin' on the project again pretty soon...

I play Helloween and other stuff in my music class, and I am trying to get 1 Dragonforce Track on the Schools radio station (last year we sneaked on a heavy Opeth track and lots of Pantera)

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I see nothing but little white kids doing this stuff......and an occasional Asain.
hehe

You'll go far, sir. We should have prizes for comments like that.

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I think it is stupid to think less of a person purely as a result of their music taste.

One of my best friends is really into mainstream gangsta rap (fiddy etc) but he's still a cool guy, he is just content with simple (and fucking aweful) music.
None of my close friends are into metal. My housemates are (collectively) into indie, funk, soul, classical, rock and other stuff (muse, smashing pumpkins etc...). The vast majority of it is (in my opinion) terrible, especially bob dylan.

Back home, my friends are into hip hop (not gangsta), D&B .... eeer breakbeat and other stuff I know nothing about, one of them is a DJ.

Point being, music taste does not dictate personality.

I do find metalheads look down on people who listen to basic music and I think it's ridiculous. I do look down on chavs etc. and people who are generally dickheads, but not because they listen to music that I could play with my feet.

Although it's my personal opinion that rap, pop, and all that other shit sucks, I understand that some people like it. As long as I don't have to listen to it with them, I'm okay. I understand that just because their music sucks (in my opinion anyway), that they don't necessarily suck. Although I "hate" white people who think they're black rappers, I can't really "judge" them by that (and by the way--I'm in NO WAY racist). But even though I dislike some styles a whole lot, I would never suggest that metal music should be the only music on the planet. People are different. So liking metal doesn't make me better, it just makes me fit in a tiny bit more with a certain crowd. BUT, I don't think those crowds should be mixed. When pop and metal or rap and metal get mixed, I'm sorry but that's the limit. People into that other shit are okay, but when they try to stick their styles with metal, it just sucks. So that's my one and a half cents.

...and by the way, I'm a classical pianist. So I don't have room to hate people outside of metal!

I do. I listen to Cannibal corpse, I don't pretend to be a homicidal rapist, I listen to nile, I don't pretend to be Osiris etc.. Those people are stupid and should be mocked.