Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information from the United States, I also would like to have your comments on the declared phenomenon:

Islam becomes the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.
Millions of people read Koran (Quran) in the Internet and visited Islamic sites.

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks
By JODI WILGOREN
Source: The New York Times: October 22, 2001, Monday
Section: National Desk
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/fastest.htm

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3

Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world
Hear his story as told him
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....82569BA0007D998
http://www.islamtomorrow.net/converts/yusuf_islam.htm

Is it also true that Americans are converting by thousands to Islam (a rate of 100,000 a year)?
I don't know if most of it is in the prisons like Mohammad Ali for example, but there is a great amount of conversion to Islam in American prisons and outside.

Bastards.

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isnt her name hillary rodham clinton?

i hate conversions...i fuckin hate religion !!!!!

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Who gives a fuck?

I sure dont.

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im with bls here

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To you Americans it means...LEVEL RED HIGH SECURITY!!! KILL YOUR CHILDREN!!!! THEY MAY BE POSING AS TERRORISTS!!!

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Yah, I don't really get it. People are converting to Islam, so what? Are we supposed to discuss whether it's a thought through decision people are making, or if they're just converting for the hell of it? What are you trying to get at?

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I received this email from a friend. I thought it was quite interesting.

"IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?

1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.

2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!

3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.

4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.

5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!

6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.

7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.

8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.

9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.

10. Amos cried out in Iraq!

11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.

12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq!

13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)

14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq.

15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.

16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.

17. The wise men were from Iraq.

18. Peter preached in Iraq.

19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon,which was a city in Iraq!

And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.

Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.

No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.

And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...

The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)

Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !"

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That's fucking transparently bullshit Yankee rubbish.

Koran (F:BS) "And, lo, the Americans wrote fictitious emails to each other full of shoddy symbolism and, lo, they repeated it electronically several times until they thought it was probably true. And verily, they masturbated greatly and their seed spilled out across their flag. Whereupon an Australian called them all a bunch of cunts, and had a cup of coffee."

If that's in the Koran, I'll eat my own face.

Iraq is barely even a real country. The first time Modern Whitey stomped the fuck out of it in 1917 it was still called Mesopotamia. Iraq is only a bit of (modern) Iraq. Now it's boring. Stop.

To douchebag blue-balled gibbon who started thread:

You sound like a form letter - "Hi all, I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information from the United States, I also would like to have your comments on the declared phenomenon:". I charge you with the holy quest of using swearwords to prove that you're real and not some bizzare unscientific form of online research.

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STFU Aussie. I was just sharing what I received.







I love you FBS.

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sounds like that would refer to Bin Laden rather then Saddam Hussain since Bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia and he planed the 911 attacks, not Saddam.

I think im going to do some research and find out if that even really is a real passage.

up the dosage of sanes v's man.

More fucking VALIUM! STAT!

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There are a lot of exclamation points in that email Bobbi, as though it's a huge surprise that these things that anyone who sat through a high school history class or did a slightly more-than-superficial reading of the bible would know are true.

Also: what the fuck? Woo, there are a lot of Muslims and it's the fastest growing religion in the world. We're metalheads. We obsess over the details of the most esoteric bands we can find and ignore the rest of the world. People convert to religions all the time. A lot of the time it helps them find peace in their life. Sometimes it doesn't. If it does, good for them. If it doesn't, then I hope they shut up about it. Most Muslims tend to leave me alone and only tell me I'm going to hell if I ask specifically. If there are more people who tend to leave me alone, cool.

I hope your generalizing and being facituous at the same time.

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Look who you're talking to.

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Bet it isn't.

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Going back to the subject, From what I've heard from different friends of mine who have converted to Islam, there are a few main reasons for most conversions.

1. Islam is a religious lifestyle, not just a quick Sunday morning church visit and a label. Although some Christians do pray before each meal and spend much time with their Bible, etc.many don't in the USA. Islam is something that can't be shunted into a few spare hours. You pray five times a day. Your dress code is affected; even your food choices are explained in the Qur'an. Many converts like it because they feel actively involved and as if they are truly religious.

2. For women, it is a big and welcome change from the "in your face" sexuality of western culture. Women are not required by the Qur'an to veil. They are required to dress modestly and it is *recommended* that they cover their hair. However, most do veil and some go farther with niquab (the face screen) or other traditional clothes. Women dressed like this consider themselves marked as religious women, not easy dates. They don't get hit on. No one gawks at their bodies. They are clearly off limits sexually and many that I personally know say it is liberating not to have to conform to western standards of sexy dress, makeup and spending so much time and money on appearance. You buy a five-dollar hijab, put your hair in a ponytail and cover, wear long skirt and a tunic shirt -you're set.

3. Islam is also growing because many people are not satisfied with Christianity. They feel it is too liberal, too fluid and changes for the culture. Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society. Many like it because they feel other religions have loose standards.

That's what I got from the new Muslimah's group at Yahoo, Islamway women's board and a few other friends of mine. Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.

I hope you arnt tellin us this stuff because you think we care. I think you should have read FBS post more and really start posting about metal or cunts, Because there is another million threads in here for religion and we dont need this one and if you didnt know that stuff about the muslims and there religion you really have no idea. There religion is not there only one where they have to change dress code and what they eat, there is heaps of other just like this. So get postin bout metal stuff.

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Hey Sasa...

Incase your blind

WE DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO IS CONVERTING TO ISLAM
WE DONT GIVE A FUCK WHY HE/SHE IS CONVERTING TO ISLAM

KTHX!

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1. Dictation of how one lives one's life is opression.

2. Dictation of how one lives one's life is opression.

3. This is why many Islamic states are still living in the undemocratic, female-opressing times that were de riguer in Europe around a thousand years ago. Mankind and society both evolve but to me, Islam is a relic of the past and should remain there until it too can evolve.

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FUCK YES.

The same applies to all religions. The whole point of religion is that it has all the answers on how to live one's life, so evolving ideas work against it.

Key word in last sentence = evolve(ing).

Its what we do, it what religion doesn't do. Religion = ignorance.

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Islam is frequently misunderstood and may even seem exotic in some parts of today's world. Perhaps this is because religion no longer dominates everyday life in Western society; whereas, for Muslims, Islam is life. Muslims make no artificial division between the secular and the sacred.


Most Islamic societies aren't theocratic. I find it interesting that the three largest Islamic countries have had women heads of state (Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh), while the same can't be said of the three largest Christian countries.

Women in Christianity and Islam (see the difference):
http://www.beconvinced.com/women/CH_IS.htm

Who cares, anyone in a religion is oppressed, whether its man or woman.

If you just came here to flood the forum with pro-muslim propoganda, get stuffed. It only sounds like you're trying to convert us. You came to the wrong place.

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Generalization, maybe?

I don't see why "we" would care about religions. I mean, for me, a religion is some kind of label, that is supposed to tell me something about a person. But just looking at 5 randomly chosen "christians" gives you enough info to see that this labeling is pointless.

Tell me that a chick has blonde hair, nice C cup boobies, and that she's relatively thin, and I will believe she's a pretty good looking chick (unless she has an ugly face or butt, but you'd probably have told me if she did).
Tell me a guy is christian/muslim and I will know he's a guy.

People pack so many different things into being a muslim/christian that I won't really care when someone is labeled as such. If a person is a decent person, that's it. I don't really care whether this decent person listens to hiphop, goes to church every sunday, eats no meat at all, or likes diet cola more than regular cola.

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Islam is actually a really neat religion, and it's basis is good, but some stupid bastards like to blow themselves up because they are fucktards. Religion has collapsed in on itself these days....oh well.

you're right, smegful horoscope, religion has collapsed on itself, whether it be islam blowing themselves up, or the child abuse amongst the catholic church, every form of religion would have had it's corruption.

as for the stupid preachy cunt trying to convert us all, don't even think of coming back here. i don't care if someone chooses to live their life as a muslim, but dont try and come and convert us all. go and blow something up, cunt. i don't care that i didn't have a rational post like john mansley either, i'm too tired for it

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I'm not liking the intent of this thread. Religious discussions are nasty enough without conversion.

If you want to keep this going, Sasa can start a new topic and use two (2) typical rude words (i.e. shit, cunt, Bush) and one (1) of the following epithets in the first post:

Jungle-Bunny
Nigger
Jigaboo
Kike
Raghead
Dune-Coon
Cracker
Hick
Redneck
Fag
Queer

Thems the fucking rules, fag cunt!

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Alright, I googled some of the stuff you're saying, and it's ripped from www.discoverislam.net - you can fuck right off.

And you might be reading this thread again, so I'll leave you a personal message - stop.

I know you probably think you're changing the world, and fighting the good fight, but stop.

Your Gods are an amalgam of fable, myth, politics and old bureaucratic circumstance. Any historical account of revisionism in a religious text is inevitably a mess of translation errors, the intervention of the self-interested and the rantings of ecstatic-state false prophets. Your holy books, regardless of who you are, have all the accuracy of my typing when I've drunk a half-litre of Glenfiddich 12. Your ideas are as dead as the people that you oppress, and your mind is as dry as the womb of a paraplegic lesbian.

If you want to play silly conversion games, I am more than willing to have a full-blown religious barney with you. Start a new topic and pitch in. I will not be responsible for any rectal bleeding that occurs.

Lastly, you don't listen to Pissing Razors, bang your head or punch your relatives. Why are you here? Converting heathen metalheads? The heathens want to eat your children and listen to Hammer-Smashed Face. Give up while you're not bored.

These views are not endorsed by metaltabs.com - which is run by Nomad, who is nice. They are the views of the author. The author is better looking than you. Get stuffed.

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