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Opinion: Michael Angelo Batio
I was doing some research and I came across Angelo's website.
http://www.angelo.com/
I've heard of him before. I'm thinking of purchasing one of his earlier tapes
from Starlicks Publishers: Master Session series. Have any of you seen this
tape? He's got a couple of other instructional videos also. Seen those?
Have any of you guys been to one of his clinics?
I've never heard his music. He was in a band named Nitro.
Well, tell me what you think of this guy.
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I've seen his video on advanced speed and picking technique, amazing. It is rediculous how fast he is. And its musical too not just mechanical shredding. He can do everything he does right handed on a left handed guitar by crossing his hands. He also has this thing where he flaps his left hand on the top and bottom on the neck, he is the only one who I've ever seen do it. He is comparable to Jason Becker interms of writing music, only his music is bit more experimental, and I think he is faster.
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I've seen one of his clinics here at Feedback Utrecht, a pretty big music store, that guy is insane
ha also plays a two handed guitar to show off, not two on one side, no, in a V-shape, just tappin his arse off, one of the most crazy guitarist I've ever saw. allthough I kinda miss ' feeling' in his stuff, he's super-technical and incredibly fast.
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Yeah he is probably one of the most technical/fast guitarists ever. Hes got more talent than Yngay too. Being able to shred with with your left and right hand is incredible. Nitro sucks though, just power metalish type style with a extremely high voice.
But like most great shredders, he is definatly not a song writer. His solo carrier is tedious and redundant like that of Malmsteens.
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I ONLY HEARD 1 SONG FROM THIS GUY....I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING CALLED TIME TRAVELLER. THE SONG WASN'T THAT GREAT BUT I WAS TOTALLY BLOWN AWAY BY HIS SPEED. I THOUGHT I WAS SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT
AND THAT NOBODY COULD PLAY THAT FAST.
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He's good to listen to every now and then but gets really boring. The same runs, the same sweeps, even uses the same key regularly so many of his songs sound extremely similar. He's technically amazing but his songwriting ability lacks.
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2004-03-18, 08:03
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You think that's amazing huh...? Dude, that vid sucks compared to the same solo but when he was like 10 (20?) years younger...
He played on that "nailguitar" with 28 frets or something and had still long hair.
http://users.skynet.be/fa299107/Speed_Kills.wmv
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2004-03-18, 08:52
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That's debatable. Marcus Paus had the world record at 46.67 notes per second, although some of what was picked up as notes was just fuzz or slop. I think that's why it was taken out of guiness world records after one year but he is still fucking fast. Listen to Mr Cucumber - Caspersens Secret Fetish.
There are others just as fast, like:
Rusty Cooley
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Francesco Fareri
On this page you can get a clip of Fareri shredding.
http://www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=40653
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Yeah dude...
I checked the clip from Fareri, he might be fast as fuck, but melody-wise that was just gay. No offense to leet shredders or something
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Quote:
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You think that's amazing huh...? Dude, that vid sucks compared to the same solo but when he was like 10 (20?) years younger...
He played on that "nailguitar" with 28 frets or something and had still long hair.
http://users.skynet.be/fa299107/Speed_Kills.wmv
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Yeh ive seen it and it think it was a 31 fret guitar. But this was right on the dean site...
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He has always looked like a Ramone.
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he looks more like a younger skinnier Alice Cooper
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2004-03-19, 09:53
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Yeah dude...
I checked the clip from Fareri, he might be fast as fuck, but melody-wise that was just gay. No offense to leet shredders or something
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Yeah. Fareri would have to be one of the most boring guitarist around. At least you can enjoy Michael Angelo's stuff, even if it's just every now and then. No Boundaries is also a very fun song to play.
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I swear its a wig!
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I think Batio's writing far exceeds what most shedders do. I can enjoy alot of his stuff, its more than just wow he is fast, i dig alot of his writing.
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He claims that he's never worn a wig, which is unbelievable after seeing this pic of Nitro.
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Fastest I've seen. Don't know how he holds his pick like he does. I have the 'Speed Kills' video and it's incredible.
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I would kill myself if I wore my hair like they do in the Nitro pic. Hats are a write off.
So, M.T.MAD; what's the video like?
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He claims that he's never worn a wig, which is unbelievable after seeing this pic of Nitro.
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Well, believe it or not, my hair look almost exactly the same. And I swear to God I wear no wig. It's all about finding the good hairdresser.
Also, shredders all play the same stuff in the end. Stolen neo-classical shits here, fast scales and arpeggios there. Nothing's more boring. But it's my opinion.
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Fastest I've seen. Don't know how he holds his pick like he does. I have the 'Speed Kills' video and it's incredible.
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It looks like his picking hand dosent move at all, because he keeps two fingers on the guitar body as sort of an anchor. Its complicated to explain, but it seems to work for him.
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I'm REALLY sorry, it's against the law here. They'd put me in jail for that. And sorry for the ugly chest. I accept myself the way I am ; you should too.
And btw, I think we lost the main reason for this thread here...
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Shit me! That guy's fast, very impressive but the track isn't exactly amazing, it seems just to be a medium for him to show off, there's no feeling or any kind of groove to it.
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Im obsessed with this guy he is amazing at guitar. He can be melodic and yet extremely fast at the same time. I bought his dvd speed kills and i learned more from it than 6 years of lessons. He does crazy guitar tricks u wouldnt even think of. If you wants some of his better songs get "prog", "no boundaries", and "2x again" im sure there are many more though.
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He is amazing, but his creativity lacks somewhat, he plays the same arpeggios in nearly every song , and his phrasing is pretty poor , people like yngwie malmsteen, paul gilbert... are way better, maybe not faster though.
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Yeah I heard and own his speed kills dvd. To tell you the truth I found it boring. He does maybe two sweeps that got my attention. To many effects on his sound and he does this stupid over lapping guitar part that just sucks. You cant understand what he is doing. I think the first Paul Gilbert video ( Intense Rock Seq.) blows micheals stuff away. Thats my opinoin. Oh yeah about the two handed guitar thing, Hopefully he has improved alot since he has made the speed kills video because the stuff he was doing on there sucked. I bet we all could play that way.
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The thing about Angelo is that, he is awesome to see live...but alot of his "techniques" you can't hear on the record. Hes more of a visual show off than anything else and I think lacks completely in song writing.
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Now as i wrote in another thread i was wondering how much Angelo's double guitar would cost? (I do know he has a quadro guitar too!) but just the double...
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i know it was stolen from him awhile back... go find the guy who stole it and offer him a shitload of moeny... and its yours
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No it was the quadro that was stolen...Well Why not steal it from the guy who stole it? :P
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well then buy the quadro.. its better anyways.
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1. I dont have any money
2. mom wouldn't allow that:P
3. There is no 3.
4. It would suerly cost £108234903280
Yay - *Just learned to play crosshanded* :P
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I've seen his video on advanced speed and picking technique, amazing. It is rediculous how fast he is. And its musical too not just mechanical shredding. He can do everything he does right handed on a left handed guitar by crossing his hands. He also has this thing where he flaps his left hand on the top and bottom on the neck, he is the only one who I've ever seen do it. He is comparable to Jason Becker interms of writing music, only his music is bit more experimental, and I think he is faster.
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That about the Left hand Flapping as you call it, on the bottom and top. It's really not that hard - I started practicing in a slow tempo, then fast, without hitting any notes, and then worked the speed up. Not as difficult as it look, I can do it pretty much the same speed.
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in the videos they speed it up... its so lame.
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YES! the return of the Michael Angelo Batio thread. Yah that over under technique with his left hand is awesome. Does anybody own one of his cd's? I'd like to know if his music is any good. (I've only heard a couple songs like no boundaries, prog, 22x, and take a look around)
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he's really fast.But like others have said,he's not a songwriter.
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He claims that he's never worn a wig, which is unbelievable after seeing this pic of Nitro.
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i thought that at first and i thought he was a fag then I turned on the tape and it was like im never making fun of that guy again. What he lacks in coolness (though i think hes pretty damn cool), he makes up for technical skill.
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Even though they speed it up, you can do it yourself in pretty much the same speed - Practice makes perfect.
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no... his hand just magically tunr into a blur and his head moves at a strange speed... hes just that good
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no... his hand just magically tunr into a blur and his head moves at a strange speed... hes just that good
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At first i thought it was speeded up, since his head moves very strange. Then someone told me that he did it live too, I've never seen a live video though. So i believed he could do it - Now some one says it's speeded up - I dunno what to believe
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I heard they didnt speed it up too. Its not that crazy its possible. Im 90% sure they don't speed it up. Have you seen all the other stuff he can do?
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im 99.9% sure it is sped up... his head moves too strangly. Ill look mroe into it later.
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i'll bet $50 it's not sped up.
really guys, its not that fast.
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i'll bet $50 it's not sped up.
really guys, its not that fast.
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Try and find a live video where he does it too?
Then we'll see if it's speeded up or not?
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I actually met the guy in a clinic some time ago. he's a pretty cool dude. plays like the fucking devil too.
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he came to calgary last summer and i heard about shred 1 month later. I hope he comes back some time soon, i wanna see him play.
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2004-06-10, 08:06
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STUFFED ANIMAL ORGY
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I actually met the guy in a clinic some time ago. he's a pretty cool dude. plays like the fucking devil too.
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hes always doing shit around here since he lives in chicago. Alot of time hes a Hix Bros. Music whihc is like 45 minutes away from my house
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2004-06-10, 19:48
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New Blood
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kick ass
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2004-06-11, 00:36
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hes always doing shit around here since he lives in chicago. Alot of time hes at Hix Bros. Music which is like 45 minutes away from my house
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lucky bastard. Do you go see him lots or what?
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2004-06-11, 05:12
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I try to see him every time he comes, but ive missed like the last 3 clinics
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2004-06-11, 06:04
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Clinic ??? Does he have AIDS or something?
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2004-06-11, 06:17
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LMAO!!! No a clinic is where he teaches you stuff, talks about his playing style and his gear.
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2004-06-22, 05:17
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Michael Angelo is just simply fuckin goddamn shittingly amzing,so is that other guy,faster than fire! but I still like Angelo better.
I was reading his shit,and read that he's fast w/both hands because he played piano earlier and that got both of his hand fast.
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2004-06-24, 06:49
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But why is the rum gone ?
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i used to hav the video if which he uses his quad guitar...... its fucking mindblowing the way he plays
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2004-06-24, 07:47
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Angelo is reeeeeeeeeeeally faaaaaaaaaaaaast, and pretty amazin...i dislike his haircut though......
HE isnt sped up at his videos, ive seen him play live two times, the second time i got the chance to be pretty close to him, almost felt his sweat haha and yeah he does that thing of "over under the neck" really fast and he moves his head really strange too, like a toy or something like that but its because you make a lot of "pression" or i dont know in your arm, the muscles startsa too felt pretty hard and he also puts face like "my god, my arm is wonna fall into pieces" but im sure he does it by himself....besides he is very cool, friendly and very accesible to all the persons at clinics, i could talk to hiim a little after the clinic, have a photo & an autograph, pretty cool dude
ooohh i forgot...the main question of the topic, i think the starlicks vid is pretty much better than the speed kills, there are more complex examples and i think speed kills is a bit simple....compared to the starlicks vid, i shopuld buy that one....and cds i like a lot "planet gemini" the song planet gemini is pretty amazin, one of his bests albums....
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