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Old 2004-03-07, 11:02
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Ways to get more sustain....

Could you guys list a few ways to get longer sustain?

i got a marshall marshall vs100r head with a jcm900 cab so its no my amp thats the problem. and i mainly use a les paul studio so i think im alright with the guitar. Which other ways would get me a better sound without the use of a harmonizer, fxboard, preamp or anything like that.
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Old 2004-03-07, 11:57
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the important part is your guitar, if the setup is poor the sustain is poor. if its a poor guitar, the sustain is poor.

its a gibson right, not an epi? because epi's plain suck, I've never played a descent one and I've tried loads, also the sg's and v's... you could get a boss CS2 or CS3, they're compressor/sustainer pedals and you can find those used for just a couple of bucks.

also, you could build in a sustainiac system. but that costs a bunch, its fun to play around with though.
 
Old 2004-03-07, 12:05
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Fernandez sustainer....beeeutiful
 
Old 2004-03-07, 14:52
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get an old 80's kramer sustainer guitar. You can find them fairly cheap now and they rock
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Old 2004-03-07, 16:51
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also, you could build in a sustainiac system. but that costs a bunch, its fun to play around with though.


what is this system you are talking about.
 
Old 2004-03-07, 17:21
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Higher action and thicker strings. Also, perhaps your pick ups are to low in terms of the distance from the strings. That will cause a huge drop in output and sustain.
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Old 2004-03-07, 17:28
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does higher action really help? only if his action is too low now right?

yeah, the pickups can make a big difference too.

the sustainiac is a sustain system just like fernandez has, you can build it in any guitar you want, sounds cool too, but I doubt you'de use it all too much
 
Old 2004-03-07, 20:43
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Check the fernades sustainer system. Its pretty cool but pricey. Or build a guitar outta steel
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Old 2004-03-07, 20:54
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neck through guitars normally have a bit more sustain than bolt ons and such., and like everybodies said, pickups have tons to do with it, and as far as action goes... if your action is too low, and you raise it a bit you'll probably get more sustain. but if your action is a bit to high, you'll need to lower it a bit. its kinda common sense.
i don't like my action really low like it was when i bought my guitar, and i used 9s in standard. now i use 10s in standard and when i changed my string gauge, my action raised a cunt hair higher, so now, not only is it more comfortable for me to play,but it sounds thicker and to has a little more sustain.
and the best part is going with thicker strings isnt going to really cost you anymore money than what you were probably paying for your old gauges .
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Old 2004-03-08, 02:41
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Sounds like ill be looking at the sustain pedals. My pickups are super close to the strings. So raising the strings would work too? i dont know if i'd want to go any higher. I've already got the thickest strings that would fit withou modifying the string slots (which i already did once). i used 9's too but now i got 11's, and it is a set neck also.
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comfort is what should always decide your action height and string thickness, so if you like what you got, don't change it unless you think you could make it better.
i'd say to just go for a pedal.
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Old 2004-03-11, 17:05
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you could get a delay pedal that copys the lets you sample little pieces and just tap it while the note is rung. That's what I'd do given that I'm poor. Just gotta time the shut off of the sample right.
 
Old 2004-03-12, 17:37
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You really should be gettin decent sustain seemin that u have a gibson lp and fairly decent amp. Perhaps u should piss around with ure settings
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Old 2004-03-13, 08:25
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You really should be gettin decent sustain seemin that u have a gibson lp and fairly decent amp. Perhaps u should piss around with ure settings


I know exactly where to set my amp for the best sound. Im having more of a problem with the guitar now i think. Whats the best pickup height, bridge height and all those little settings that are hard to perfect.
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yeah, but a stock, poorly setup LP allready has tons of sustain, what did you do? break the neck and glued it back together?

oh, if its not a gibson but epi, forget it, they suck.
 
Old 2004-03-13, 15:29
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On my amp I have a button thats says "Sustain Boost".
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Old 2004-03-13, 17:10
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yeah, but a stock, poorly setup LP allready has tons of sustain, what did you do? break the neck and glued it back together?

oh, if its not a gibson but epi, forget it, they suck.


yeah, if its an epi or a cheap knock off lp, then thats your problem. because even the gibson les paul special has pretty good sustain, and its probably the cheapest "real gibson" lp available.
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Old 2004-04-05, 22:56
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There are lots of different ways. Actually though u say u know it's not ur amp, it has something to do with it. Ur amp only has a tube in the preamp. Get a full tube amp (at least four tubes in both the preamp and the power amp). JCM 800s, JCM 900s, DSLs, TSLs, you get the picture (that's if u wanna stay marshall). Get a boost pedal or overdrive pedal to run at the same time as ur distortion channel on ur amp. Get active pickups or higher output passives, not those burstbuckers which are more vintage/high output. Also woods like mahogany and ebony are better for sustain as well. You could get a compressor, which amplifies lower level sounds more so they ring longer. There is of course a sustainer system in your guitar, but u cannot use ur neck pickup when the sustainer is activated. u also wanna have a lil reverb on all the time. u could get a delay pedal and have it set to a low feedback and time. also adding vibrato to a sustaining note makes it last longer. Hope that helped.

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Old 2004-04-05, 23:56
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Its probably a unneeded comment, but you also can get variable sustain depending on how you play your chords... for example, if you play a powerchord, a lot of people put their whole index finger across the fretboard, and their whole ringfinger or pinky across the fretbord 2 frets higher. But if you put only your fingertops on the notes you want to play, you get a better tone and a bit more sustain.
Its the cheapest way...
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Old 2004-04-06, 04:02
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ya well that depends what your playing
Few people use the full finger bar chords for super fast songs. You would never be able to move fast enough. Im talking about equipment cause most of us know how to play the guiatar already.
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