Hey, just wondering about album production.

A quick example is the 'And Justice for All' album.

Is there any technology out there that can alter the way an album sounds? Make it sound different?

This is probably a stupid question but you never know.

The reason this popped out is because there are examples of bands re-
doing their own songs on later albums - newer versions. Is the reason
they do this is because they didn't like the production in the first version?
They redo the song with new instruments or sound engineers or what?

Hell if I know.

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I know Dimmu Borgir is re-recording Stormblast because they felt that due to lack of money they werent able to incorproate all the elements the wanted.

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they would eitehr have the songs remastered by a good (and expensive) emgineer. or they would record the songs again using better equipment and a lot better technicians to get the sound they want. but nowadays if u have about £10grand then u wood easily be able to pull off a badass album recording if you know what to do with the equipment

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dude...

in studios...they can do shit only u can dream of...

i kid u not..

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^ You're a fucking retard. Quit posting.

The likely option would be re-mastering. Re-recording an entire album is almost unheard of, although sometimes bass or drum tracks are re-done.

And despite what can be done in the studio, they cannot completely re-vamp an entire album that was recorded many years ago and make it sound like it was recorded yesterday in a pro sutdio. Only freshen it up a bit.

you'd be supprised with some of the things they can do.

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Yes, I'm aware, I work in one. Although there can be some amazing things done, current technology does have it's limits. Alot of people over-estimate it.

Argos is right. Take "Hell Awaits" for example, recorded is 85. Thoes masters are still 18 years old. They are going to sound 18 years old. Sure you can clean it up, but its going to to sound like it was recorded on 18 year old equipment. The masters are only going to have the sound properties of the instruments that the recording equipment picked up. Basicly, you cant fix something that isnt there,

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i know you can't do "anything", but while some people "over-estimate", i think even more under estimate alot of things.

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agros...

what cant be done in a fucken studio??.....


metal bands dont like to change their sound much in the studio cause they always wanna do it live.....

apart from that....if u want to experiment and dont give a fuck.....pretty much anything can be done...if you have a decent sa/producer or you yourself have a creative mind.....

so agros....please leave me alone...go play some korn.

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What can't be done is what I've already said. You cannot re-master an album and make it sound like it was just recorded with the finest equipment. Period. I know many people would like to think it's as easy as grabbing a disc, starting up Alsihad, flipping a few buttons and poof, your material is good as new. But it's not. Sorry.

So shut up until you know what you're talking about, and have the certifications and resume to prove it.

ok agros...lets have a lesson in reading shall we..

"The reason this popped out is because there are examples of bands re-
doing their own songs on later albums - newer versions. Is the reason
they do this is because they didn't like the production in the first version?
They redo the song with new instruments or sound engineers or what?"

now have a good fucken read....he isnt talking about re-mastering...he is talking about redoing songs....

now once again...please leave me alone and go play some limp bizkit.

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I agree

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BLS....

why u wanna get involved??

i didnt do anything to deserve shit....so go eat mine...

that is if u can get your head outta everyones ass...

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Is this thread closed yet?

I wasent getting involved with your constant bitch fights you start with people but you seems to want to drag me into them. I was simply agreeing with the facts stated in that quote. For example "And despite what can be done in the studio, they cannot completely re-vamp an entire album that was recorded many years ago and make it sound like it was recorded yesterday in a pro sutdio. Only freshen it up a bit. " You posted on another thread that your like 23 right? Well why dont you act your age then??

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Let's have another, shall we?

"Is there any technology out there that can alter the way an album sounds? Make it sound different?"

This is the part of the post I responded to, and I felt compelled to correct the following bullshit you spurted as well.

So, once again, FOAD.

and thats why you should suck on my sphink door...

well done..your going to love it...

and the bullshit i spurted wasnt too bad....nothing you should take offense to you poor little cum rag..



and BLS...you may be confusing me with someone else and maybe their posts as mine....cause i have not mentioned my age on here.....

is it you or me smoking too much??

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Your profile says your 26

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He did mention his age when he was making angry smily faces and bitching at me in the Randall Warhead thread.

KR_CANS is a moron, plain and simple. He knows nothing about anything music related.

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thats not 23 is it..

and DEAD, seeing as though thats comming from you....i have to take offense...

so ill rant on about how iD love TO fuck your mother(hopefully dead IF IM LUCKY!) while my long haired metal mates go nuts on your dad's sweet ass.....

wouldnt that be cool....just me and my mates ramming your parents while you sit there and play korn to us....i know id love it....my mates sure would..there would be a big KB party with plenty of gold cold and buds...your bands could play alot of korn and bizkit songs and everyone would have fun.....

i better get back to being serious with my guitar cause this is metal....

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stop bitching... this is totaly off topic...
go bitch in the rtt if you must.... or pm... (if you want to get personal that is)

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and i cant spell.

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Damn you showed me, I guess...

I'm not about to start the "I listen to so and so..." dick measuring contest, but its safe to say I listen to more 'extreme' metal than you do. how dod i know? *Points at the Randall Warhead thread*

And about 'serious' guitar playing, Pantera almost compares to Cacophony...

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the randall thread was how i thought it was over-priced..so whats your point...??

why isnt this closed??

are people betting??

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.......n' shit......

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Dude who cares if you listen to more 'extrem' metal. Some people like it, some dont, who gives a fuck shitbag

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I DONT care, but he does. Look at his posts calling everyone who points out his stupity limp bizkit and korn fans. He is the one that started the with the bands thing. Maybe you should read the topic before trying to jump on my case and prove nothing but that fact that you don't read posts.

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Wow, this is still going?

Wow, makes for an enjoyable read...No really, Korn,Limp Bizkit...The ones who stoop to those type of accusations are the ones who have a guilty conscience.

Back to topic anyhow...totally re-doing an album would surely be costly, as for re-mastering goes,through experience i can say that it is quite over-hyped, the result is not that great and groundbreaking.

I'm sorry for asking such an ambiguous question but the yip yapping back and forth is hilarious.

When I used the "And Justice for All" example, it was because I was referring to the bassy type sound that wasn't really prevalent in the previous Metallica albums. Did they take a chance to make it sound different, just to be different??

Also, Individual Thought Patterns also has a different 'sound' compared to the other Death albums. I didn't think too much of that album at first but when I got past the production of it (and saw some live footage) I really started to appreciate it more. I had a difficult time picking up on stuff and that particular 'sound' seemed to cover up (to me) what was really going on.

So, sometimes a newer version of a song totally works out like "Troops of Doom" by Sepultura. I like both versions anyways.

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