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Old 2003-03-02, 22:22
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Black Metal

I was just curious to hear what other people think about Black Metal. What's
your top 5 black metal bands? And what do you think about COF, do you
think they've sold out? I like them but I think their too sold out.

1. Ancient Ceremony
2. Children of Bodom
3. Dimmu Borgir
4. Borknagar
5. Dark Funeral
 
Old 2003-03-02, 23:56
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Old 2003-03-03, 00:59
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well... Black Metal is my favorite genre ...as for "favorite bands" there are lots so I can't choose only 5 ... I only like the first 3 CoF albums ...after Dusk and Her Embrace I don't like it.
 
Old 2003-03-03, 01:01
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Dimmu and CoB I really like, and one song by Immortal, but I won't listen to anything else.

And whether they sold out or not, I hate CoF.
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Old 2003-03-03, 01:08
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CoF in no way sold out. They still have BM type vocals and fast drumming. So someone please explain how they have sold out.......

I just heard "Her Ghost in the Fog", it's brilliant.

Does Danni do all the different male vocals?
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Old 2003-03-03, 01:24
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Why CoF sold out

1. Signing with sony...need i go on
2. Gain Left
3. They no longer play BM, they play gothic metal.....
4. SONY, JESUS CHRIST, FUCKING POP DIVAS OF METAL



my fav bm bands
1. Burzum
2. Graveland
3. Dissection
4. Xasthur
5. Darkthrone
 
Old 2003-03-03, 01:41
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Why CoF sold out

1. Signing with sony...need i go on
2. Gain Left
3. They no longer play BM, they play gothic metal.....
4. SONY, JESUS CHRIST, FUCKING POP DIVAS OF METAL


but thats really only after midian, and including from the cradle to enslave
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Old 2003-03-03, 03:43
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1, Mayhem
2. Burzum
3. Blinded by faith
4. marduk
5. darkthrone

for the CoF thing now: Yeah they are on Sony, yeah some wannabegoth listen to them, and they're well known (for a BM band) but, the old cd's are good. some songs on Midian are great too. But the newest album, I didnt like it alot thought.

Uuuuhhhhhhh said it, they play gothic metal now.
 
Old 2003-03-03, 06:34
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MARDUK
BURZUM
DARKTHRONE
MAYHEM
IMMORTAL
ASTRIAAL
ENTHRONED
NAZXUL
BATHORY

in no particular order, sorry.

no glam black metal shit here...

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Old 2003-03-03, 09:09
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CoF in no way sold out. They still have BM type vocals and fast drumming. So someone please explain how they have sold out.......

I just heard "Her Ghost in the Fog", it's brilliant.

Does Danni do all the different male vocals?


Well, I wouldn´t say they sold out but they are definatly more populair and sell more shit then any other band.... But Midian is a great album... and the reason everyone left is that Dani Filth is a wanker and allways makes problems with everyone....
Finally: Yes, Dani does all the vocals...
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Old 2003-03-03, 09:10
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oh and I also forgot!

I love black metal!!!!!!

1. Marduk
2. Immortal
3. Dimmu Borgir
4. Burzum
5. Darkthrone
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Old 2003-03-03, 12:19
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Black metal is Awsome!!

my favorite bands are:
1) Dimmu Borgir
2) Burzum
3) Heidenland
4) Mactatus
5) Emperror
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Old 2003-03-03, 14:01
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Cradle are sold out!!! i cannot see them any more!!! in every issue of the legacy zine there is an article about cradle, there are new albs almost every month etc.....

my favourite bm band is EISREGEN!!!
 
Old 2003-03-03, 14:31
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Top 5, in order

1) Anaal Nathrakh (heard a lot of demos...too bad their fuckin CD costs 27 dollars to order here in the states)
2) Immortal
3) Emperor
4) Dimmu Borgir (sorry, I still like everything I've herad since Stormblast)
5) Kult Ov Azazel

I just really wish they'd take off that make-up and running around in the forest holding pitchforks...these guys are how old and they're still pretending to be demons and shite? Oh well, still fun to listen to.

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Old 2003-03-03, 14:33
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ahhh fuck it...

this are the bands I'm listening more this days :

Abigor
Mütiilation
Grand Belial's Key
Judas Iscariot
Weltmacht
 
Old 2003-03-03, 17:45
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1) forgotten woods
2) hades almighty
3) ancient
4) immortal
5) emperor

all cof albums suck!!
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Old 2003-03-03, 18:10
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immortal is the only BM band i know and they rock!
 
Old 2003-03-03, 18:56
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Ok, for all you people that say CoF sold out, you are fucking retards. Go ride the short bus..........no offense in all, but it is true.

1. Koch, Cacophonous, etc. will offer them less money, lower tour budgets, worse recording equipment, and less cd distribution. Sony offers the exact opposite. Tough choice on who to sign with.........

2. "Well, CoF used to be grind, extreme, technical black metal. Now, they are melodic, gothic, technical black metal. THOSE FUCKING SELL OUTS!!!!!"

people who say any of this genre changing crap are dumbasses.

3. CoF has one of the most retarded, degenerate, loser fanbases. They can't win. If they totally stagneted themselves and made 10 straight albums like "The Principle of Evil Made Flesh", their dumbass fans would still bitch about them NOT evolving.

However, since CoF is popular, all their little shit fans with their shitty BM bands will whine.

Case in point:

Do you remeber the guy that came here for a short while called Judas Iscariot? He made one thread bitching about CoF and Dimmu. Turns out, Judas Iscariot is a little unknown band. I'm sure he had his own little shitty BM band (it wouldn't surprise me if he was a member of JI). Just a loser pissed out cuz CoF rules and his band sucks.
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Old 2003-03-03, 19:02
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Turns out, Judas Iscariot is a little unknown band. I'm sure he had his own little shitty BM band (it wouldn't surprise me if he was a member of JI). Just a loser pissed out cuz CoF rules and his band sucks.



hmmmm ....dude Judas Iscariot is one of the greatest American Black Metal bands so don't say shit if you know nothing.
 
Old 2003-03-03, 19:04
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I'm not really into black but I'm getting slowly into

Here are my favorites for now at least from the ones I know

Marduk
Mayhem
Naglfar
Dissection (if considered black)

Could you guys introduce me to the black world
thx

Ps: I don't like symphonic stuff (Dimmu...)
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Old 2003-03-03, 19:06
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sure dude ... do you use MSN Messenger ? if you do add me if you want : Lord_Malphas@immortal.com , if you don't use it download it here http://messenger.msn.com it's fast and easy to use shit
 
Old 2003-03-03, 19:53
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hmmmm ....dude Judas Iscariot is one of the greatest American Black Metal bands so don't say shit if you know nothing.


Aghhhhhhh! You missed the ENTIRE point! Malphenstein, you need to understand before you reply. I am not making fun of the band Judas Iscariot! I am talking about the CoF fans. He made a thread bitching about CoF, etc. Re-read my post and try to get the point of what I'm trying to say. I was talking about how CoF has NOT sold out, I was making a point in reference to the JI post...........

Also, even is JI is so great, they are very, very unknown. I can take a rough estimate and say that over 95% (probably more like 99%) of Americans haven't even heard of JI.............

Moribund and Red Stream records can't exactly give large distribution of cds. Plus, I also know that it is a one man band, thus touring would be "difficult" (whether he hires a band to tour, I do not know, or care), to say the least.

Trust me, Malphopolis, I do make sure to know stuff before using a reference.
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Old 2003-03-03, 20:08
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Also, even is JI is so great, they are very, very unknown. I can take a rough estimate and say that over 95% (probably more like 99%) of Americans haven't even heard of JI.............


hmmm... maybe because 50% of the Americans listen Rap then 10%listen nu-metal shit then 35% listen pop shit ...then 5% listen real metal as Death - Black and some others.
 
Old 2003-03-03, 20:20
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Ok, for all you people that say CoF sold out, you are fucking retards. Go ride the short bus..........no offense in all, but it is true.

1. Koch, Cacophonous, etc. will offer them less money, lower tour budgets, worse recording equipment, and less cd distribution. Sony offers the exact opposite. Tough choice on who to sign with.........

2. "Well, CoF used to be grind, extreme, technical black metal. Now, they are melodic, gothic, technical black metal. THOSE FUCKING SELL OUTS!!!!!"

people who say any of this genre changing crap are dumbasses.

3. CoF has one of the most retarded, degenerate, loser fanbases. They can't win. If they totally stagneted themselves and made 10 straight albums like "The Principle of Evil Made Flesh", their dumbass fans would still bitch about them NOT evolving.

However, since CoF is popular, all their little shit fans with their shitty BM bands will whine.

Do you remeber the guy that came here for a short while called Judas Iscariot? He made one thread bitching about CoF and Dimmu. Turns out, Judas Iscariot is a little unknown band. I'm sure he had his own little shitty BM band (it wouldn't surprise me if he was a member of JI). Just a loser pissed out cuz CoF rules and his band sucks.


1. WHo cares??
2. they were never extreme or grind, not even technical
3 wtf are you saying, its dumb

And dude, BLack Metal Isnt supposed to be popular or commercial. You suck

I also remember one guy, he was complaning at power metal, and non-keyboard music....do you remember him??
 
Old 2003-03-03, 21:02
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Actually, Judas Iscariot is quite a popular band for people who actually listen to blackmetal.
Saying that a guy who is somehow conected to judas is jealous of COF is very fucking ridiculous!
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Old 2003-03-03, 21:15
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Saying that a guy who is somehow conected to judas is jealous of COF is very fucking ridiculous!


that guy wasn't connected to Judas Iscariot in any way.
 
Old 2003-03-03, 21:19
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Old 2003-03-03, 21:55
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I also remember one guy, he was complaning at power metal, and non-keyboard music....do you remember him??


That asshole wasn't complaing, its called a sense of humor and a sense of reality.

Malphas, you still don't seem to realize that I was not talking about JI as a topic, it was a REFERENCE. Once again, re-read my posts and try again. I don't care how popular JI is, or how much they rule.

"Black metal isn't supposed to be popular."
That comment should win an award for sheer stupidity.

If BM wasn't meant to be popular, why would they make cds? Making cds will create a fan base. Why bands in general (including BM bands) tour after a cd realeas? To promote it so it sells!

If you honestly believe that all "true" BM bands don't wanna sell lots of albums, then you are truly beyond me ever being able to convince you of anything.

Also, I will never meet any of you. Do you really think it matters to say stuff like "You suck"?
Do you actually think that when I here that, I am hurt?
Try coming back with an argumentative point instead of misspelled gibberish and lame insults.

One more thing, for my mention to the JI post, I didn't say he was connected.

"(it wouldn't surprise me if he was a member of JI)"

Do you see the parenthesis showing that it isn't connected to the main subject matter? When do I say that he WAS connected. The member on this site known as Judas Iscariot was just an EXAMPLE of a idiotic, CoF jealous, BM fan.

Malpharific, if you respond, try to get the point first of what I am saying...........
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:03
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i know that the judas iscariot was just a reference. And i am just saying that it is a stupid reference. I have that right :P

The fact that a fan of judas iscariot or a judas iscariot member says shit about COF, is very far from being jealous, because Judas Iscariot have already proved to be a great BM band. So, your example sucks.
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:14
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I could just start crying right now..............

Why is this so hard?

Ok, I'll break it down............

The metaltabs member known as Judas Iscariot came on and made a thread bitching, yes bitching, how Dimmu and CoF were sell outs, and that they sucked, they weren't "true", etc. He provided know real examples for selling out except that they were popular. He belives that all the members of Dimmu were multi-millionaires (9 golden Hummers, was it?).

He was an E-X-A-M-P-L-E of a little whiny BM fan who was pissed and CoF for being popular.

He wasn't the only dumbass to feel this way "Black metal isn't supposed to be popular"


Im not talking about Judas Iscariot's (the band) popularity or talent............
Do we understand now? My instinct says no............
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:20
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YES! i understand that you are not talking about the band!.... But i agree with that guy... and i don't see how that makes me jealous!

Besides, you said that the fact that he uses a nick of a band that is not known matters. Well... JI is a great BM band.... so.... what you said doesn't make any sense!
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:23
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damm it! i don't care about that fucking COD discussion.

ALL that i am saying is that Judas Iscariot is a band that already achieve something in the BM scene. So it doens't make sense to say: "He wich they were like COF!"
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:26
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Clearly, I have to number my questions so that you will understand...

1. Explain how CoF sold out. Dont say any stupid shit. You know what I am talking about.

2. JI the metaltabs person, was clearly a bitchy BM fan. Can you explain otherwise?

3. I don't give two shits about JI that band. I dont care about anything you have to say about them.

4. Black metal isn't supposed to be popular (Popular BM makes that band a sell-out, no matter what). Try and explain that one. Try and explain how you honestly believe that no BM bands wanna sell lots of albums.

Bonus Question!
5. Explain how saying lame insults over a forum is supposed to have any effect on anyone.

Simple?
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:34
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I know you don't care about JI! ...but the fact that JI are what they are matters because you made an example out of them! you said something that isn't true! I just wanted to clarify that(judas is not a band that is still fighting for recognization)!


COF..... I like some of there first works. I don't care if Dani loves what he is doing right know... i don't like it.

So i guess i am not saying that they have sold out! ....But there sound is defenenatly more commercial.

I understand why the JI guy down't like COF.... maybe it's because he is a little bitch .....but it is not because he likes or he is in a band that is "small"


Understand my point?????
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Old 2003-03-03, 22:42
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Trust me, if the band, JI, wants to continue to have a growing career, then they are looking for more recognition and more fans. All bands that want more fans. Why wouldn't they?
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hmmmm ...well there's no more Judas Iscariot ... I don't know the word as it was only one dude so I can't say disbanded ... but hey same shit you get it.

but Akhenaten is in many more bands ... like Weltmacht and Sarcophagus
 
Old 2003-03-04, 01:28
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black metal really isnt ment to be popular, i mean your not going to see black metal fetured in a ad, or a movie. its just about music, not about record sales. Come on most black metal bands limit their releases too (for some bands at most 1000 copies) there not in it to make a tripple platnum album for fucks sake. you make it seem alot of ppl LOVE black metal, but in the grand scheme of things its fan base is very low. that is why when bands like CoF and Dimmu start doing world tours every year and start making cds like a demon they are considered sellouts. although i consider CoF and Dimmu sellouts becasue they couldnt stick to what they were great with. they had to fuck around with their music. i do like some of the newer Dimmu, but its not as great as their older anti-christian songs.
 
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You can't blame them for being popular. Every genre is goiung to have a popular band that more people know of. I would almost bet that more people have heard of "Cradle of Filth" than they have heard of "Black Metal". I thnik that is a real accomplishment for them.

look, what do people (even those not big on the metal scene) when they think of:

If you consider a style change to mean a sell out, then like 80% or more metal bands have sold out. Is it that hard to believe that these bands actually like making this type of music?
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Old 2003-03-04, 01:43
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i dont think musicians should be chained to one style of music, but bands are. if you want to change styles change you god damn name. cuz i dont want to pick up a cd and find out its nothing like what im use to listening to from a said band. if they would just make a new band with the same ppl and play differently it would be alot better, and they would not be considered "sell outs"
 
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You can't expect a band to change names every time they wanna do something different. So Theatre of Tragedy should have had 3 different names?

A bands is more than just a genre of music........
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marduks the only bm band i dig, everything else is just non-motivating, bland, "creepy" noise
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4)Mayhem (old)
5)Carpathian Forest

...there are MANY others
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Mayhem
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and allmighty Bathory and Venom.
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marduks the only bm band i dig, everything else is just non-motivating, bland, "creepy" noise


....if u say so
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Old 2003-03-09, 15:23
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hmmmm ....dude Judas Iscariot is one of the greatest American Black Metal bands so don't say shit if you know nothing.


I wouldn´t go so far, but they are really known... but you do have a point GP...
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Everyone needs to shut up about Judas Iscariot. This is not a thread to debate Judas Iscariot, especially trivial things. One person said they arent as well known as COF, which is true, and the other person comes back saying "they're great." That's meaningless. Just shut up, everybody, and list the bands like the guy who made the thread asked. If you want to make nonsense, back and forth arguments in which no one listens to anyone else, do it in an RTT or make a 'Judas Iscariot isnt as popular but is still better than Cradle of Filth' thread or whatever. Here, just respect the man who made the thread. And since he asked if Cradle of Filth sold out, say what you want on that. But just say your peace and go on. He asked for opinions, not debate. Debate can go on elsewhere.
 
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Old 2003-03-10, 03:45
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a) I just got back.
b) It said it was a new thread.
c) I'm making a point. It's applicable to every thread in this, or any, forum. Stay on fucking topic or get deleted. Bicker stupidly over tangential points and get deleted. Personal attacks = deleted. Everyone got that?

Also, now that I look at it, someone posted three hours before me. Three hours is not 'days ago.'

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Old 2003-03-20, 20:56
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in any order

Burzum
Satyricon
Immortal
Sigh
Carpathian Forest
Anaal Nathrakh
Frost
Khold
Mayhem
Graveland
Emperor

ok thats a few more than 5 ,
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I made this thread weeks ago...I thought it died as well.
What does Judas Iscariot sound like, I always hear that name, but Ive
never heard them. And yes, of course its alright to post more than 5 black
metal bands, post as many as you want, the more black metal the better!
 
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a) I just got back.
b) It said it was a new thread.
c) I'm making a point. It's applicable to every thread in this, or any, forum. Stay on fucking topic or get deleted. Bicker stupidly over tangential points and get deleted. Personal attacks = deleted. Everyone got that?

Also, now that I look at it, someone posted three hours before me. Three hours is not 'days ago.'


I'm not bitching at you or anything, but you said stay on topic and i don't think you posted you fave BM bands!!

Anywya here are mine:

Naglfar - there new album Sheol fucking rules, more black then their older stuff!!
Symawrath
sirius
Darkthrone - there new one rules!!
Absu
Mystic Circle
Aurora Borealis
Graveworm
Immortal Souls
Maze of Torment
Morgul
Vordven
Wolfheart
Thonar

There are more but i can't list them all
 
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The songs I've heard from Judas Iscariot
were like Darkthrone in Transylvanian Hunger and
Graveland.

Favorite BlackMetal bands:
Antaeus
Necromantia
Venom
Bathory
Burzum
Mayhem
Immortal
Darkthrone
Dissection
Emperor
Thorns
Marduk
Beherit
Dodheimsgard
Satyricon
Blasphemy
Sarcofago
Arkhon Infaustus
Rotting Christ
Arcturus(Though not Black Metal now)
Ulver(same as above)
Limbonic Art
Impaled Nazarene

That's alot more than 5 but you said it's allright
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Everyone needs to shut up about Judas Iscariot. This is not a thread to debate Judas Iscariot, especially trivial things. One person said they arent as well known as COF, which is true, and the other person comes back saying "they're great." That's meaningless. Just shut up, everybody, and list the bands like the guy who made the thread asked. If you want to make nonsense, back and forth arguments in which no one listens to anyone else, do it in an RTT or make a 'Judas Iscariot isnt as popular but is still better than Cradle of Filth' thread or whatever. Here, just respect the man who made the thread. And since he asked if Cradle of Filth sold out, say what you want on that. But just say your peace and go on. He asked for opinions, not debate. Debate can go on elsewhere.


and you're not debating? I could see why you would step in if they were talking about a tv show or something WAY off topic...

...I'd also say that Merciful Fate is a good 'old school' black metal bands, but a lot of people don't consider them black metal...
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ALL CRADLE FROM MIDIAN AND BACK RULES THERE NEW STUFF SOUNDS LIKE SHIT, IF I SAW DANI ID FUCKING SMACK HIM FOR MAKING THIS NEW BULLSHIT and i dont remember who posted it , but how the fuck does being "anti-christian" make some black metal bands good ive heard some "anti-christian" black metal bands and they fucking sucked. then ive heard some black metal bands that dont even mention hating christians and they kicked major ass.. me myself i am christian im dark but i still think black metal rules and i play it all the time with my friends... im not trying to get into a religous arguement but i just wanted to state that

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Eternal_Sorrow: I'm a moderator. Everything I say to keep you folks in line is on topic. As a non-fan of black metal, I wouldnt post in here if you werent being stupid. Pointing out that I didnt list my favorite bands is just going to get me to randomly delete your posts. The End.

metal=life: I'm not debating anything. Get a dictionary and look up the word 'debate.' What I was doing was 'chastising.' There's a difference, that's why they have different words for them. I had to come in because the arguing was becoming malicious, and there's no room anywhere for malicious bickering. Bicker and I'll shut you down.

I shouldnt have to explain my point again and again. Next person to respond with anything but their favorite bands and/or an opinion on whether or not Cradle of Filth sold out gets deleted. Argument = deleted. Saying something to me = deleted. Does everyone follow?
 
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Eternal_Sorrow: I'm a moderator. Everything I say to keep you folks in line is on topic. As a non-fan of black metal, I wouldnt post in here if you werent being stupid. Pointing out that I didnt list my favorite bands is just going to get me to randomly delete your posts. The End.

metal=life: I'm not debating anything. Get a dictionary and look up the word 'debate.' What I was doing was 'chastising.' There's a difference, that's why they have different words for them. I had to come in because the arguing was becoming malicious, and there's no room anywhere for malicious bickering. Bicker and I'll shut you down.

I shouldnt have to explain my point again and again. Next person to respond with anything but their favorite bands and/or an opinion on whether or not Cradle of Filth sold out gets deleted. Argument = deleted. Saying something to me = deleted. Does everyone follow?



Hey PST i know this is prob going to get deleated but man i didn't know you were a moderater O.K. so i apologize for any inapropriate comments i made.

and here are a few more black bands i didn't list!!

cryptic wintermoon
amortis
abyssos
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Eternal_Sorrow: I'm a moderator. Everything I say to keep you folks in line is on topic. As a non-fan of black metal, I wouldnt post in here if you werent being stupid. Pointing out that I didnt list my favorite bands is just going to get me to randomly delete your posts. The End.

metal=life: I'm not debating anything. Get a dictionary and look up the word 'debate.' What I was doing was 'chastising.' There's a difference, that's why they have different words for them. I had to come in because the arguing was becoming malicious, and there's no room anywhere for malicious bickering. Bicker and I'll shut you down.

I shouldnt have to explain my point again and again. Next person to respond with anything but their favorite bands and/or an opinion on whether or not Cradle of Filth sold out gets deleted. Argument = deleted. Saying something to me = deleted. Does everyone follow?


Why do you have to drain all the fun out of things? This forum shouldn't be so damn strict...

I'm going to add Eminenz to my list of bands. They sound pretty good but have a shitty name.
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1.) Dissection
2.) Dark Funeral
3.) Marduk
4.) Immortal
5.) Darkthrone

CoF are BM. Their new cd is horrible, to be quite honest with you, and borders on very un BM. But that doesnt mean that they werent. CoF was the band that got me into black metal. Stop bickering about 'dey rnt blak metul' and stupid menial shit like that. The post says what is your favorite black metal band; not bitch about bands that used to be BM, etc etc.

Fucking hell.
 
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Mayhem
Immortal
Dark Funeral
Bathory

I need to get more Black Metal lol.
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DAMN!! THAT'S WHAT I CALL AN OOOOOOLD THREAD.
NOBODY LISTED ENSLAVED YET...

I'M DEFINATELY NOT A HUGE BM FAN BUT I DO LIKE SOME BANDS
EVEN IF IT TOOK ME A VERY LONG TIME TO GET INTO THEM

ENSLAVED, IMMORTAL, DISSECTION, ABSU (ARE THEY CONSIDERED BM?),
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Yes, absu is BM. wow, no one DID say enslaved.

I saw this post when i was looking for Bathory, and decided to put my thoughts in.

I forgot Satyricon. but i havent really heard enough of their material to really have a great opinion on them. But they are better then Emperor..
 
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You fucking idiot, ABSU are not Black Metal, they're Thrash. They say so themselves in several interviews.
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hmm... only bm i actualy know is CoF and Dimmu... i would like to listen to other bands, but i don't know wich ones i should begin with... i think i should try the favourites listed here, but when it comes to bm i'm a bit shy, since lots of bm bands seem to be nsbm (and since you can hardly make out what grunting singers say, i might be listening to some band for months and at the same time at actualy be some facist pigs )
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Hey, have you seen the way Absu dress? They look about as black as it gets. Pity they ain't much good.

Anywho:
1. Satyricon (all o' their stuff is great, but they've changed a lot - early stuff for 'true' BM freaks, the newer stuff is more for psychotic rock & rollers)
2. CoF - From 'The Principal...' through to 'Midian' they hosed all their competition & cut up some fine tunes
3. Emperor
4. Limbonic Art (really an equal third with Emperor ust because of their cool song intros)
5. Hmmm, dunno, maybe Impaled Nazarene just because they're complete cunts & really, really funny because of it.

BTW: I don't personally think CoF have 'sold out' but they certainly sound a shitload different to what they did originally. I think it's basically a case of Dani realising that he can get away with more or less any type of fucked up experimentation because he's actually got a fan base. However, after Midian, CoF have begun to SUCK in an enormous fashion, their music is trite & horrible & Dani is a complete sack of shit & loves himself way too much (I met him when they played in Melbourne for the 'Dusk' tour).

Black metal fucking owns!
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I havent listened to much absu. i saw one of their MP3s under the black metal section of a website. Havent heard anything from them. (*assumed*)

And the poster above me hit the nail on the head about CoF. Now shut up about it.
 
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hmm... only bm i actualy know is CoF and Dimmu... i would like to listen to other bands, but i don't know wich ones i should begin with... i think i should try the favourites listed here, but when it comes to bm i'm a bit shy, since lots of bm bands seem to be nsbm (and since you can hardly make out what grunting singers say, i might be listening to some band for months and at the same time at actualy be some facist pigs )

dude Cof & Dimmu arent black metal
wearing corpse paint/make-up and incorporating keyboards doesnt make a band black metal

early dimmu can be classified as black, but the current direction...definitely NOT !!!

if you want to get into black metal, check these bands out...

Emperor
Mayhem
Immortal
Darkthrone
Burzum
Limbonic Art
Melechesh (thats kinda death-black)
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Genres are lame im not gonna even type what "Black Metal" bands i like cause there prob not even "Black Metal"
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Corroded, old CoF and old Dimmu were. go listen to "Principle of Evil Made Flesh" and "Dusk...and her embrace" from Cradle. Then get back to us on that one, chief.
 
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Cradle and Dimmu Boring are NOT sell outs, u may be asking why, if the sell a lot od cd's, the answer is cuz they have never been BLACK METAL AT ALL.

Black metal isn't about some fucking gay vampires, or some fucking gohtic romance and so, i have friends that love COF, I respect that, but they sure know they are not black metal, they are just some fucking POSERS!!!!!.

Come'n they not even use "corpse paint" and that is not FUCKING CORPSE PAINT, they are not fucking gothics! it is WAR PAINT!!!!!!!! Black metal is WAR and HATE, not castles and stuff, for that is the fucking gothic metal.

Some REAL black metal bands are:

Enthroned
Kult ov Azazel
Judas Iscariot
Krieg
Zemial
Immortal (old)
Mayhem(old)
Conqueror
Inferno
Maniac Butcher


Hear those bands and u will see the have NOTHING to be with cradle of shit and dimmu boring, they are totally different, REAl black metal.
 
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Those black metal bands should tour with ICP then they could paint each others faces!!!
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Corroded, old CoF and old Dimmu were. go listen to "Principle of Evil Made Flesh" and "Dusk...and her embrace" from Cradle. Then get back to us on that one, chief.

dude...read my post again...i HAVE mentioned early dimmu can be considered black.

and i have heard dusk & principle
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Cradle and Dimmu Boring are NOT sell outs, u may be asking why, if the sell a lot od cd's, the answer is cuz they have never been BLACK METAL AT ALL.

Black metal isn't about some fucking gay vampires, or some fucking gohtic romance and so, i have friends that love COF, I respect that, but they sure know they are not black metal, they are just some fucking POSERS!!!!!.

Come'n they not even use "corpse paint" and that is not FUCKING CORPSE PAINT, they are not fucking gothics! it is WAR PAINT!!!!!!!! Black metal is WAR and HATE, not castles and stuff, for that is the fucking gothic metal.

Some REAL black metal bands are:

Enthroned
Kult ov Azazel
Judas Iscariot
Krieg
Zemial
Immortal (old)
Mayhem(old)
Conqueror
Inferno
Maniac Butcher


Hear those bands and u will see the have NOTHING to be with cradle of shit and dimmu boring, they are totally different, REAl black metal.

you said it
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One question, chaos:

Why did you say "immortal(old)" when refering to what is bm? New immortal is just as grim and frostbitten as it ever was.

That confuses me.

and Sorry, Corroded. I must have read you post wrong.
 
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Immortal are sell Outs, you can hear their first records, and the last ones, and you will se a great difference, they only made those last albums fur fucking money.
 
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yeh im sure they made millions off of Damned in Black that must be why they havent release an album in so long, Because there rich now!
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what BLS said. You are fucking stupid, chaos. I bet you cant even define sell out.
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U didnt get the fucking point.

Is not that they sell a lot a Damned In Black albums or so, is that they did not made the album for the music, just to make some fucking money, just like Bruce Dickinson with Iron Maiden, he's only in the band for the fucking money, not for the music.

I'm noy saying Immortal makes a lot of money, like Dimmu, and dimmu are not millionares, but they can live ver VER WELL, with their music, and that is not the black metal spirit.

I guess someone that is not in the underground scene of the black metal, cannot understand this.

Excuse for my bad English, It is not my first language.
 
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Yeah yeah, and your favourite bands show that XDXDXDXD.

Any TRUE black metal head, would NEVER say burzum and satyricon are his favourite bands, that shows that you really know nothingh about black metal.

I'bet you can't list here 3 underground (not invented) bands of black metal of the EEUU.

I can list you 3 easly here:

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One question, chaos:

Why did you say "immortal(old)" when refering to what is bm? New immortal is just as grim and frostbitten as it ever was.


Yeah.. the last album from Immortal is realy good.

And to those who say only old Immortal is blackmetal, I can tell that Immortal were not considered to be BM 10 years ago...only metal with satanic influences
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Dimmu cant live VERY WEEL, hell not even big names like slayer make the kind of money you would imagine. Theres not much money in non-ommercial music exspecially metal. And who cares if they "sell out" if they make good music and become popualr because they write catchy riffs than w/e. Chaos, I have a feeling you try to hard to be a "Metal Head"
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I read that about Dimmu in an interview to Silenoz, they said that they made enough money to live laike any person in their country and have cars and so...

iF you read carefully what I posted you'll see that im not against they making money, it is perfectly normal that they sell cd's if they are good musicians, but when they just sell an image of bad boys, and lost the spirit of black metal because they wnat to reach more audience, they are to me, sell outs.
 
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1.Anorexia Nervosa
2.Marduk
3.Dimmu Borgir
4.Mithotyn
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I read the whole thread, and nowhere i saw Anorexia Nervosa
Don't you know this band or don't you like it???
I think it's the greatest symphonic black metal band i ever heard
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Dimmu Borgir with their norwegian lyrics! Thats the best! Probably not that great for you people from USA..
 
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I'm not HUGE with Black Metal, but I have a few Dimmu's and Immortal's laying around.

But I have a couple of questions.
I've heard Satyricon associated with Black Metal a lot.
First, are they black metal?
Second, are they any good?
I downloaded a song and its really bad quality but I've heard everything from "Really good" to "Really bad" about them. Could anyone give me a little insight about them?


Answers? Opinions?
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Old 2003-12-24, 06:27
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Satyricon are fucking techno now.
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Old 2003-12-24, 13:40
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Dont listen to M=L. He cant lift his head out of a bong long enough to know what good is.

Satyricon are infinately better than Emperor... ugh...emperor... Their only good song (off hand) is Curse you all Men. Prometheus isnt BAD... but it was a disappointment after spending money on it..
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Old 2003-12-25, 00:10
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So you're saying Satyricon arn't techno now?

old satyricon: decent
new satyricon: techno


And saying Satyricon are better than Emperor is your own worthless opinion.
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Old 2003-12-26, 08:17
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if you call mithotyn black metal I will call you gay


how would you call it then?
i think it's viking/black metal...
songs like the legacy are black
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Old 2003-12-26, 08:35
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how would you call it then?
i think it's viking/black metal...
songs like the legacy are black


Usually Viking metal is in the same feild as black metal, but sometime leaves it, such as Einherjer - Odin Owns Ye All.
 
Old 2003-12-26, 22:05
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Well, I don't call Naglfar too much black either...

But anyways - check up Lord Belial, Misericordia, Dawn,
Satyricon (until 97, Nemesis Divina), Avenger, Immortal
and you will probably fall in to the wonderland of BM...
 
Old 2004-01-14, 11:06
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Old 2004-01-14, 11:17
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OH COME ON!! For fucks sake!! Those lyrics SUCK! They are so god damn immature. How old are you? 14?
To think those lyrics are cool you have to be least 13 years old. Not a fucking day older.

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Old 2004-01-15, 02:43
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I don't really have a favorite Black Metal band... I like too many.

Emperor
Immortal
Burzum
Mork Gryning
Trollheims Grott
Alghazanth
Dimmu Borgir
Catamenia
Marduk\m/\m/\m/\m/
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Old 2004-01-18, 02:29
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i wouldent call bathory true BM, there first stuff was black up untill hammerheart, then they started to sound viking...blood on ice, you call that BM?!? anyway heres my list,

marduk
absu
immortal
burzum
bathory..(old)
darkthrone
dimmu borgir
venom
armagedda
satyricon
forgotten woods
aternus
aeba
mayhem
Judas Iscariot
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Old 2004-01-18, 04:11
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1-Dimmu Borgir
2-Old Mans Child
3-Amon Amarth (are they black metal, they rock all the same if they arent)
4-old CoF (i still love them, even though they signed to sony)
5-Rotting Christ

i also would like to add that labels arent necassary, ITS ALL FUCKING METAL, labels are childish
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Old 2004-01-18, 04:31
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Amon Amarth black metal...
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Old 2004-01-19, 12:01
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Quote:
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how would you call it then?
i think it's viking/black metal...
songs like the legacy are black

Mithotyn is viking metal indeed, that can be hard/loud/whatever. But it ain't black at all!
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