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View Poll Results: Who's your favorite Prog Band?
Dream Theater 4 33.33%
Pink Floyd 3 25.00%
Rush 2 16.67%
Some other band...... 3 25.00%
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Old 2003-01-31, 21:02
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Prog Appreciation Thread

What are your favorite prog bands of all time? It doesn't have to be metal it can be rock.....

Mine:

1. Dream Theater
2. Rush
3. Pink Floyd
4. Yes
5. Genesis

If you vote "some other band' Please Specify in your post.
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Old 2003-01-31, 21:08
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Rush all the way. All others on your list can go suck a dick. Especially Dream Theater.
 
Old 2003-01-31, 22:20
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Pink Floyd would be my all time favorite.. but then Dream Theater
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Old 2003-02-01, 00:50
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Old 2003-02-01, 01:13
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Pink Floyd.
 
Old 2003-02-01, 03:05
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Old 2003-02-01, 03:08
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What the hell is progressive rock/metal anyway??

Since Rush has been mentionned, i'll stick with them. Rush owns. (they're canadian too )
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Old 2003-02-01, 03:14
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Oh God, I hate Rush so much. Seriously, they suck more than Rhapsody. HammerFall is actually cooler than them........ I hate them so much.............. always have.

Dream Theater!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooooooooooooooo

what about Pain of Salvation?
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Old 2003-02-01, 04:33
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The 2 bands are very good but i will go for symphony x, some may claim they are not prog, but their music contain every element of prog..


My fav would be (in no order or merit)
1. Sym X
2. Dream Theater
3. Rush
4. Arcturus (Avant Garde progressive)
5. Queensryche
 
Old 2003-02-01, 04:35
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Oh God, I hate Rush so much. Seriously, they suck more than Rhapsody. HammerFall is actually cooler than them........ I hate them so much.............. always have.


You're an idiot for saying that.

Rush is greater than most metal bands you can mention. It's just about as bad as someone saying "Black Sabbath sucks". It's a no-go.
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Old 2003-02-01, 11:13
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Heard just one song of Rush, but i didn't like it. So my vote goes to DT.

Pain of salvation is good, too. But since i saw them live with this jump-like-a-ball-from-one-corner-to-another-guitarist, i don't like them that much. He was so hilarious.

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Old 2003-02-01, 14:38
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What the hell is progressive rock/metal anyway??


I know this is a long definition but, if u want to just read a paragraph or so....lol. I've saved this definition from the Mike Portnoy boards so it's came in handy:


Progressive Properties
----------------------

To begin, I will list and define some of the general
characteristics of progressive music.

1) Longer songs
2) Time changes
3) More complex instrumentation/Superior vocals
4) More complex ideas/Lyrical content

1) Generally speaking, prog bands have a tendency to create
very long (epic) songs. Often these songs will be broken up
into parts, but usually not divided into separate tracks on the
cd itself; kinda like sub-albums. On average most songs by prog
bands are somewhere between 5 - 10 min long. The extreme cases
as mentioned before are sometimes 20+ min long.

2) One element that can dub a band or song "progressive" is
the time change or odd-beat characteristic. I'm not going
to pretend to know everything about this, but there is a
noticeable difference between the structure of songs with
really common beats (like 4/4) and those that use diverse beats
or switch between diverse beats. Many prog bands have very
talented drummers and are able to put it all together very
nicely. Yet, at first, many (myself included) may find
certain bands or albums hard to "get into." This usually
stems from songs with odd beats that take a little work to
follow along with. Within a few listens, though, it usually
clicks.

3) The instrumentation is another element that will separate
ordinary rock/metal from *progressive* rock/metal. Commonly,
one will find strings (violins, cellos, etc), keyboard, synth,
piano, flute, etc, mixed in with the guitars and drums typically
found in rock and metal to produce the "progressive" sound. This
powerful and beautiful mix of rock and symphonic elements was my
initial draw to prog. There is a certain higher standard of talent set by
many progressive artists. Many of the musicians are considered
virtuosos, with both passion and wonderful technical ability.
Basically, progressive music will tend to have a more classical
influence than would your typical, blues-based rock music.
There is NO three-chord song in the world of prog.
Another aspect of prog is the incredible range and singing
ability of the vocalists. Multi-part vocal counter-melodies and
other layered vocal arrangements and choirs are also sometimes
used.


4) For the most part, prog bands seem to undertake massive
projects in developing ideas in their songs and albums. Some of their
lyrics are fantasy based, some are pure original fiction, and some
deal with heartfelt human emotion. Yet, no matter what the case,
like true poets usually these ideas are not blatantly brought out
to the forefront. Instead they are set back - not really hidden,
but not always completely obvious, either - waiting to be
discovered (and duly interpreted) by the listener.
A somewhat common element of progressive music is the concept
album (or rock-opera), which is basically a storyline or theme-based
work in which the individual songs on an album all relate to each
other to develop a story or describe some event or emotion, etc.
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Old 2003-02-01, 18:17
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You're an idiot for saying that.

Rush is greater than most metal bands you can mention. It's just about as bad as someone saying "Black Sabbath sucks". It's a no-go.


Memnoch, dont forget, its just opinion.

I hate black sabbaths music too. I cant stand it at all. Just as you may say Nightwish sucks, however they are more popular than many metal bands discussed here.

I think Rush sucks, even if a lot of people like them, that still wont change my opinion....
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Old 2003-02-01, 19:35
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I've never gotten into Rush but I've heard a bunch of songs, which are good songs, but it seems they're an aquired taste.. they got a couple of songs I love though
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Old 2003-02-01, 22:04
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I think Rush sucks, even if a lot of people like them, that still wont change my opinion....


You can't just come and say a band sucks, especially Rush. They have Neil Peart, which is considered to be one of the greatest drummers of all time. They also have Geddy Lee who is a great singer and a force to wreckon with on bass. So that being said, they can't suck.
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Old 2003-02-01, 22:05
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Why can't he say that? It's his opinion. I think Rush sucks, and I think Dream Theater sucks, so what?
 
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Why can't he say that? It's his opinion. I think Rush sucks, and I think Dream Theater sucks, so what?


When a band has that much talent they cant suck, no matter how much you like them. You may dislike their music, u may hate their music, but they can't suck because of their technical talent.
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Fender0823: :-X god im scary
Fender0823: lol
Fender0823: this is what alcohol does to me.
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Fender0823: lmfao!!!!!!!
Fender0823: hahahahahahaha
Fender0823: can i put this in my sig on metaltabs
Fender0823: lololol
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Old 2003-02-01, 22:12
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Heh, bullshit. I'll never say that Dream Theater doesn't suck, I don't care about their talent. Same thing with Rush. A band sucking has nothign to do with talent as far as I'm concerned. Look at Yngwie Malmsteen, he's one of the most talented guitarists there are, I'll still say he sucks, because I don't like his music.
 
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Look, how many people here would say Limp Bizcuit sucks? I know I would. They have sold millions of albums, but I still will say they suck. Now, lets not get into a huge discussion of "Well LB has no talent, Rush does......."

I dont care if Rush has every great rock musician in its line up. I think their music is horrible. It sucks completely. I hate the vocals. I hate everything about it.

Black Sabbath was a very influential band, I respect them for that, but I hate their music.

See, I dont hold classic guitarists in high regard. I dont care how fast Yngwie can solo. I would rather get a chance to meet Tuomas Holopainen, then to meet every person who has ever played in Rush.

That is because I like Nightwish and I hate Rush

Nobody got upset when I said Rhapsody sucks.........

Bottom line...... IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION, Rush completely sucks, they blow, they are horrible.
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Old 2003-02-02, 01:55
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Rush is a very influencial band
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Old 2003-02-02, 17:49
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Look, how many people here would say Limp Bizcuit sucks? I know I would. They have sold millions of albums, but I still will say they suck. Now, lets not get into a huge discussion of "Well LB has no talent, Rush does......."

I dont care if Rush has every great rock musician in its line up. I think their music is horrible. It sucks completely. I hate the vocals. I hate everything about it.

Black Sabbath was a very influential band, I respect them for that, but I hate their music.

See, I dont hold classic guitarists in high regard. I dont care how fast Yngwie can solo. I would rather get a chance to meet Tuomas Holopainen, then to meet every person who has ever played in Rush.

That is because I like Nightwish and I hate Rush

Nobody got upset when I said Rhapsody sucks.........

Bottom line...... IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION, Rush completely sucks, they blow, they are horrible.


well no one likes raphsody anyways. i never thought of rush as progressive. more of a classic rock band.
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Old 2003-02-02, 18:45
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<-----------DREAM THEATER




and RUSH
and pink floyd

other prog rock bands are a bit too fruity for me.........


(memnoch did you know that the lead singer of DT is canadian?)
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Old 2003-02-02, 20:18
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(memnoch did you know that the lead singer of DT is canadian?)


Uh...since you mention it, it does seem kinda familiar.....
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Old 2003-02-03, 00:04
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well no one likes raphsody anyways. i never thought of rush as progressive. more of a classic rock band.


But Rhapsody's members are all very talented with their instruments, but they just produce shitty music. Same goes for Rush, while they may have a talented line up, the music that comes from it is total garbage...
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But Rhapsody's members are all very talented with their instruments, but they just produce shitty music. Same goes for Rush, while they may have a talented line up, the music that comes from it is total garbage...


Don't forget to add "in my opinion".......Rush has an extremely huge fan base, that alone should tell you to use the words "my opinion" in every sentence you decide to bash them with.

Rhapsowho?? Fuck them.
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Don't forget to add "in my opinion"


It gets really damn old adding that after so many sentences. It's not hard to interpret whether something is fact or opinion, and if someone's not smart enough to tell the difference, then they shouldn't be entitled to an opinion anyhow.

To keep with the thread, I still hate DT except two songs, and Geddy Lee's voice ruined Rush for me.
 
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Don't forget to add "in my opinion".......Rush has an extremely huge fan base, that alone should tell you to use the words "my opinion" in every sentence you decide to bash them with.


Yeah, I agree the fanbase is fucking huge. I'll never forget when I saw them on their last tour. When they went into Tom Sawyer the crowd went fucking nuts. The highlight of the night for me would have to of been when they played "One Little Victory" from their new album.....it was fucking awesome.
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Old 2003-02-03, 02:30
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When I heard my first DT and Rush songs, I thought they both had female vocalists... they grow on you though.
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When I make a post stating something like what I think of a band, isn't it obviously my opinion? I really dont see it necessary to add IMO whenever I give an opinion.

And, once again, 95% of the world's population could love Rush and I will STILL say that they totally suck. Why would you say to respect a band because of their fan base? When has anyone on this forum actually done that?

Any band that I am a fan of, no matter how small the fan base is, I would respect more than Rush. To me, Rush is the epitome of shitty prog/classic rock music.

In my opinion Rush sucks. That is my opinion of Rush as my opinion was given by posting this message. My opinion, which stated that Rush sucks, is given as a statement of my opinion towards the band. To quote me, in saying that "Rush sucks", it is stating that the band of Rush, does, in the opinion of me, suck, in my opinion.

There. Is that better?
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