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Old 2003-01-13, 20:18
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Wrists

Hey guys,

I lately have quite a lot of pain in my wrists after I have played for quite a time (2-3 hours). Now we all know that Demonaz had to quit Immortal because he didnt warm up his wrists before playing. And since I want to be a guitarist for more than a few years, I want to ask you if you guys know any traning for the wrists. Websites are also welcome!
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Old 2003-01-13, 20:30
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streach your fingers, then bend back your wrist. 10 mins.
 
Old 2003-01-13, 20:51
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dont worry

i used to get it it will eventually stop

try shortening ur guitar strap and bending ur arm instead of ur wrist it helps
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Old 2003-01-13, 22:03
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I honestly do not know. I've had that for awhile too. I've also heard that it wasn't very good because it could limit your playing ability...

Check out this link, maybe it will help you out... maybe it won't. I think it did me abit good.

http://www.guitartabs.cc/lessons/pp1_guitarmaso.php

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i used to get it it will eventually stop

True. Yes of course it could just be a simple 'breaking in' or it could be something that will hurt you in the long run. That's why keyboards today are desinged differently and all have that warning about using the keyboard could damage wrists, arms, etc when you do repitive activities. Also I know keyboards dont have alot in common with guitars as far as I know - was an example. Just a thought.

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Old 2003-01-14, 02:17
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have you been masterbating excessively? that can always bring wrist pain.......

(cmon, its a thread about the wrist, someone had to say it )
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Old 2003-01-14, 03:18
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damn, you beat me to it!
@ sanderinos--maybe your just gay, and have a weak, limp wrist.
j/k. i would suggest adjusting your strap.
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Old 2003-01-14, 03:46
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Old 2003-01-14, 07:53
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have you been masterbating excessively? that can always bring wrist pain.......

(cmon, its a thread about the wrist, someone had to say it )


Not everyone is as excessive as you GP
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Old 2003-01-14, 07:54
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damn, you beat me to it!
@ sanderinos--maybe your just gay, and have a weak, limp wrist.
j/k. i would suggest adjusting your strap.


Why do you wanna know? Are you interested?!
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Old 2003-01-14, 13:54
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just do some practice with a stress-ball.

It helps
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Old 2003-01-14, 17:32
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Old 2003-01-14, 19:43
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SINCE TALKING ABOUT PAIN I'LL ASK MY QUESTION HERE INSTEAD OF MAKING NEW THREAD.

I GOT PAIN BUT NOT IN THE WRIST NEITHER IN THE ASS BUT IN THE EDGE OF MY LEFT HAND (ON THE PINKY SIDE). ESPECIALLY WHEN I PLAY SCALE.
I PLAY GUITAR FOR 5 YEARS BUT NEVER REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO ANY THEORY
BUT SINCE 7 OR 8 MONTH I START TO PLAY SCALE AND MORE THEORICAL STUFF.
AND BEFORE THAT I COULDN'T BEND MY PINKY WITHOUT BENDING MY RING FINGER
(AM I A FREAK OR IT'S LIKE THAT FOR ALMOST EVERYBODY?)

IT REALLY HURT TO THE POINT THAT SOMETIME I HAVE TO STOP A COUPLE OF SEC.
MY HAND GET TENSE AND MUCH LARGER THAN THE OTHER. AND IT FUCKIN HURT.

DO I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO AVOID ANY NERVE PROBLEM? OR IT'S NORMAL AND IT'S BECAUSE I'M GETTING SOME STRENGHT IN MY PINKY AND THE PAIN'S GONNA LEAVE WITH MORE PRACTICE.

I ALSO HAVE SOME SORT OF PAIN IN MY PALM BUT ONLY WHEN I PLAY CHORD "ESPECIALLY POWER CHORD" IT START TO HURT
AFTER 2 OR 3 MINUTES

MAYBE IT'S JUST A WARMING UP PROBLEM
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Old 2003-01-14, 20:09
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try adjusting your strap.
too much strain on the pinky may be because your trying
to strech to finger notes, instead, you should pivot on your thumb.
keep your fingers relatively close together.
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Man, I get real sweaty after I wack my dong. Yeah, cause I headbang while I do, and I can't really "Jump" (haha ) like VanHalen in a dorm room, so I just walk back and forth....haha a couple days ago I was jumping up and down on my bed, with my pants down and my roommate came in when I wasn't looking, hahaha.


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Old 2003-01-14, 23:50
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Wrist hurting sounds like you dont hold it right when you play... Id suggest keeping it tucked into the body of the guitar most of the time and using you arm a lil more to help... thats what i do allot since im rhythmn guitarist in my band (buy my new cd "Hatred" by my band Cold Raven's Hell!)) Also streching it or heatin it with a pad before long sessions is an inside thing all you metal go'ers that i do to get it nice and loose before a session with my guitar or after a session with my doogan.
 
Old 2003-01-15, 00:03
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@delete, try when playing with your pinky, to move your entire hand up a bit with it, so that you're not forcing your pinky into place. and the pinky and ring fingers are connected(sort of) at the tendon, so they should move together.
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Old 2003-01-15, 01:28
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damn weijia, you seem to know an awful lot for someone who has only played for a year.
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Old 2003-01-15, 03:16
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well i do have a teacher, even though its classical guitar he tells me to:

- keep the left shoulder LOOSE
- keep your fingers loose
- when you're putting your fingers down, do it smoothly, and fast doesnt mean hard.
- when your fingers are on the fretboard, they should really just "hang" there. not too much pressure is needed.
- keep your wrist in. this wont help with your wrist problem, but it works for classical
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Old 2003-01-15, 16:43
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@ delete, i think you just need to get a little more power in your pinky finger, then it wont hurt. and i think you just need to get used to playing different chords. when i first discovered the F chord, it would take me a few seconds to position my fingers right and it would kinda hurt if i left it in that position for a while. now, i switch through a F chord with ease and no pain. so i think you just need a little bit of practice. kinda bogles my mind though that you've been playing for five years and still get a pian from a power chord!
 
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kinda bogles my mind though that you've been playing for five years and still get a pian from a power chord!


YEAH THE REASONS WHY IT'S BECAUSE I PUT TO MUCH PRESSURE ON THE NECK WHEN I PLAY CHORD AND I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO PLAY POWER CHORD AND I USE TO PLAY POWER CHORD WITH ONLY TWO FINGER NOW I PLAY THEM WITH MY PINKY.
MAYBE THAT'S A REASON TOO WHY I HAVE PAIN

I DON'T WASTE MY TIME ON THINGS I CAN ALREADY PLAY... I DON'T REALLY "PLAY GUITAR" I "PRACTICE GUITAR" THAT'S WHY MOST OF THE TIME I PLAY STUFF
AND I SOUND LIKE A BEGINNER I PLAY WHAT I CAN'T. I ALSO WRITE SONG THAT
I'M NOT ABLE TO PLAY

I'M DEFINATELY A "LEAD WANNABE GUITARIST".
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Old 2003-01-15, 21:11
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yeh dude i woodnt worry bout it. i had the same problem but i think it was just growin pains or somethin cos my arms have got a lot muscely from my forearm down to my wrist
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Old 2003-01-19, 00:51
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hey guys

ive been trying to play tabs using my little finger aswell but sometimes it locks is there anything i can do cause its really annoying it sort of bends backwards a bit then stayes there
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Old 2003-01-19, 15:03
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I just figured out another wat to work on your finger power and speed...what you do is go up and down on the fretboard playing...it never occured to me it helps your figers get more strength but it does.
 
Old 2003-01-19, 22:44
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how DO you train fingers? Like with stressballs?
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Old 2003-01-20, 10:44
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how DO you train fingers? Like with stressballs?


goto http://www.ultimateguitarpage.com and do the 1-2-3-4 etc... scales
it sounds boring, if you want more cooler stuff with the same method to play faster i can mail you some.


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Old 2003-01-20, 13:26
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hey guys

ive been trying to play tabs using my little finger aswell but sometimes it locks is there anything i can do cause its really annoying it sort of bends backwards a bit then stayes there


I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM THAN YOU BEFORE AND THAT'S WHAT I DID:
OPEN YOUR HAND, HOLD ALL YOUR FINGER EXCEPT YOUR PINKY AND TRY TO BEND
IT. IT'S KINDA HARD WHEN YOU START BECAUSE YOUR PINKY AND RING FINGER
HAVE SOME SORT OF NERVES CONNECTION TOGETHER AND HOLDING YOUR RING FINGER MAKES HARD TRYING TO BEND YOUR PINKY .

IT GET YOUR FINGER A BIT MORE INDEPENDANT TO THE OTHERS.
IT HELP ME ALOT BUT I DONT KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD METHOD.
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Old 2003-01-20, 20:59
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cheers del79
ill keep at it see if works
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Old 2003-01-21, 18:32
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goto http://www.ultimateguitarpage.com and do the 1-2-3-4 etc... scales
it sounds boring, if you want more cooler stuff with the same method to play faster i can mail you some.


grtz Dark.


Thanks Matey, well discuss it friday in the boothill (for everyone who is not from Utrecht, Holland: Its a great metal bar)!
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Old 2003-01-22, 02:39
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jeez... can u write your complaints about ur pains in small letters, caps hurt my eyes lol
 
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Old 2003-01-22, 14:13
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jeez... can u write your complaints about ur pains in small letters, caps hurt my eyes lol

It's DELETE79 "trademark"....he always use that

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goto http://www.ultimateguitarpage.com and do the 1-2-3-4 etc... scales
it sounds boring, if you want more cooler stuff with the same method to play faster i can mail you some.

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can you send some to me please??
 
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I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM THAN YOU BEFORE AND THAT'S WHAT I DID:
OPEN YOUR HAND, HOLD ALL YOUR FINGER EXCEPT YOUR PINKY AND TRY TO BEND
IT. IT'S KINDA HARD WHEN YOU START BECAUSE YOUR PINKY AND RING FINGER
HAVE SOME SORT OF NERVES CONNECTION TOGETHER AND HOLDING YOUR RING FINGER MAKES HARD TRYING TO BEND YOUR PINKY .

IT GET YOUR FINGER A BIT MORE INDEPENDANT TO THE OTHERS.
IT HELP ME ALOT BUT I DONT KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD METHOD.


what you want to do is to build up finger independancy. start off by outting a finger on the fretboard (do this sitting down first) with the other fingers stretched out loosely. then put down another finger without moving the other stretched ones too much. keep on doing this with different combinations.

or

when playing power chords, keep the finger your not using striaght out.
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how DO you train fingers? Like with stressballs?


you are supposed to masterbate to get rid of your stressed balls, then they will become calm........

to train your fingers, you can buy that finger strengthening mechanism......
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Old 2003-01-25, 00:46
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Oh whoa, I've always thought it'd be better not to masturbate before playing because wouldn't it be better to have your hands "loose" instead of all tensed and semen encrusted...? Haha..
 
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Oh whoa, I've always thought it'd be better not to masturbate before playing because wouldn't it be better to have your hands "loose" instead of all tensed and semen encrusted...? Haha..


No wonder my guitar neck is always sticky!
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serious, i usually use a stressball
 
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look doc

hendrix played with his teeth
some guitarists play behind thier head

but you have to take it a step further and play with ur dam bollocks
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can you send some to me please??


i will, little busy at the moment, but ill send you it as well
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you oughtta just post all the cooler ones you have in the tab posting section.
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Old 2003-02-12, 04:30
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Just thought this might help with the wrist pain. In addition to guitar I play lots of classical piano - last semester I was having a lot of pain in my right wrist due to some tension problems. It also hurt when I played the guitar to the point where I thought I was going to have to quit. My piano professor showed me a stretch that has helped a lot, and I'm playing both instruments again with little or no pain. Put both elbows on a table or flat surface with your hands in the air and make a fist. Then slowly pivot the fists down as far as they will go so they make a right angle with your arms. Then, slowly move the fists from side to side to stretch out the wrists. She said to start with only 1 or 2 times and gradually increase the number and to NEVER rush - move slowly. The opposite stretch is to open the hand with fingers extended and bend the wrist backwards as far as possible and then slowly pivot as far as possible in either direction. The stretch is supposed to help with carpal tunnel and tendonitis. I do the stretch both before and after I play - it's really helped me a lot. Hope that helps!
 
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