2008-01-08, 22:44
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im looking for one that will do preety much everything but with good quality. ive been told that the GNX pedals are really good. anyone got advice?
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2008-01-09, 00:56
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the digitech stuff sounds pretty bad to my ears. i've had a gnx before and i couldn't get a good sound out of it.
but korg makes some decent ones. i think they're called toneworks.
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2008-01-09, 01:30
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You're probably not going to find a pedal board that will produce what a good individual effect pedal will and I recommend straying away from them if you've got the money. I have a GNX 3 and while its fun, it doesn't compare with real pedals. Most of the effects, especially coming out of a decent rig, sound fakish and makes my tone sound more hollow.
However, most of us couldn't afford to buy all the pedals included in a effects board so I can see why it comes in handy. Hell, thats why I bought one a long time ago (not to mention it can record, too). I don't use it anymore, and, if you want, I'd sell it to you for cheap. PM me if you're interested. I can even send you some recordings I've done with it that sound pretty good.
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2008-01-09, 08:15
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You're probably not going to find a pedal board that will produce what a good individual effect pedal will
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Quoted for motherfucking truth. Unfortunately most multieffect pedals generally place quantity of effects over quality of sound, which is why I really don't recommend them. But for novices or intermediates that have no idea what sounds they want/need, a cheap one(under 200 bucks) I guess its good so they can get familiarized with different types of effects(and not feel like they wasted a ton of cash when they realize they only needed 2 effects!).
If I were you I'd go to a shop and try out a bunch of pedals, there are tons of alternatives to Boss pedals that cost less than the 100 ish they cost new.
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2008-01-09, 21:01
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I've got one of those Digitech GNX 3 floor processors. I can vouch for the individual effects like delay, chorus, and reverb sounding decent but the overdrives sound like giant fuzz boxes and muddy up your tone. I also like the looper/recorder of my GNX 3. That feature of it is priceless to me, but it's all about trade-offs.
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2008-01-09, 21:19
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Well. I tried the Korg Toneworks, most of the series and well. I thought it were all utter pieces of shyte. Even the higher part of the range, it all sounded way to compressed/digital and some of the fx are just plain bad.
Maybe you'll find most of what you need in a used BOSS GT6 or higher. The VOX Tonelab SE is allright too but somewhat pricey.
Like mentioned before, you probably can't find all you want in one unit, but some units just offer a whole fucking lot. The boss GT units is one of them and it's around used for good prices.
I wouldn't recommend it for professional use but that's because I fucking hate effect pedals. I haven't tried much of these multi-units but the above tells everything I do know from personal experience, it ain't much but hey it's something. Sound-wise they all dissapointed me but I'm so anal about my tone that it's not really a valid opinion.
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2008-01-10, 00:26
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what do you plan to use it for?
if it's for bedroom practice, you could get a pod or v-amp instead. they usually have similar features but more compact, easier to tweak and less expenisve. or a practice amp with onboard fx for a lower overall price. or a couple of the danelctro pedals for 20 each.
if it's for your live rig, it might be better to get a rack unit and a midi foot controller of equal value, so you can add and expand ... control your whole rig from it instead of limiting yourself to this one pedal.
basically the concept of everything riding on a monstrous digital floor unit is kind of questionable - hence the rack or individual pedals for live situations, or a convenient little pod thing for home use.
thats how i see it anyway.
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2008-01-10, 04:26
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its not for a band its for personal use mostly in my home i guess. but i do want somethings that not complete crap.
and def, i was checkin those boss units out too they look pretty decent i think. i dont wanna spend alot of cash unless its truely worth it. since im not playin with a band now anyways
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2008-01-10, 16:09
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The effects like chorus/delay/flanger/reverb on boss multifx's I've tried are pretty good. Distortion/overdrive is another story however, I've never coaxed a decent distorted sound out of one. If you already have an amp/preamp with decent distortion/od then try the boss.
If you plan on recording relying 100% on it I'd suggest a 2nd hand podxt or Sansamp gt-2(using software for effects as this is only a preamp not a multifx).
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2008-01-10, 17:39
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but korg makes some decent ones. i think they're called toneworks.
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The Korg AX3000G is fucking insanely good, though, for better tone and versatility, I highly suggest the use of an EQ after the Korg. Rack EQ would probably be best. It's not necessary, but with things like this, I prefer to have complete control over the tone.
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2008-01-11, 18:04
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im gona try and make it to the guitar shop to try shit out. im gona try the GNX, and the boss one. anything else i should try and play?
edit: i just seen the boss rc-50 in the guitar world buyers guide. anyone played that?
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2008-01-12, 22:24
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I can't recall which Boss ones I've played, but I'm sure I've played around with several of the best known ones and I thought the GNX was better, easier to use, and had more things to play with. Another great thing about the GNX is that it can quickly and easily record so you can loop a few riffs and practice leads or harmonies over them.
If you're using all this for home use then an effects board is a good idea.
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2008-01-12, 22:50
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A friend of mine has one of those POD live XT's IMO they don't do any justice at all. V-amp ain't BAD (for the $ and what you get) a few cats i know have some of them. If you just want a magical box, you could just settle for a live 6 small combo thing (30watt If they make it them that small).
I really dont know a whole lot of whats out there right now. I have not played on any peds in a looooooooooong time.
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2008-01-13, 07:54
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The effects like chorus/delay/flanger/reverb on boss multifx's I've tried are pretty good. Distortion/overdrive is another story however, I've never coaxed a decent distorted sound out of one. If you already have an amp/preamp with decent distortion/od then try the boss.
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I hate FX pedal boards with a passion. I really do, but I have to plug the Boss GT-8 when used with the 4-cord method for effect placement and good tone coloring. It actually does an outstanding job when setup and tweaked correctly.
The 4-cord method places the preamp of a head or rack unit in the FX loop of the gt-8 and allows individual FX to be placed before and/or after the preamp. The chain is your choice. I go light on effects personally but when I want to just fuck around the gt-8 has different preamps to substitute the original preamp or just double along with it. I can add a distortion pedal in front of the preamp or assign the boost to the volume pedal and control it that way. All with the touch of a button.
The gt-pro is rack mounted and does the same thing with a few more memory banks, but doesn't have the firmware updates yet. You want the firmware updates! The gt-8 is a midi controller rack unit/FX unit on the floor and has wonderful tone.
The only draw back to the Boss gt-8 is the learning curve. Its not a simple machine are requires tweaking to you amp and guitars needs. I wouldn't suggest trying one until you have read instructions at GTcentral. Most people hate them because they are hard to program.
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2008-01-25, 10:46
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Well if you're looking for distortion alone i can vouch for the sansamp gt-2, i've been using one for about 3 months now and it really is the next best thing to a full blown tube amp, and thats saying alot.
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2008-01-25, 11:22
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+1 billion. ^
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2008-01-26, 03:54
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if you're on a budget, get the V-amp 2.. it's cheap ($100) and you can play through headphones or plug it into the "return" on the FX loop of a decent amp and get nice high gain tones at low apartment/bedroom volumes. i absolutely love my amp, but i can't crank it up where i live, and the V-amp has been (so far) the only way that i have found to practice with decent tones at low volumes. i've tried some of the effects and they're ok, but i'm not big on effects beyond reverb or delay.
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2008-01-26, 10:04
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That's a good alternative too, if you're looking to spend the least possible on a practice rig.
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