2007-08-13, 22:46
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Tuning to 5ths
So uhm, yeah....how do I do this. I need to know what to tune each string to. I've looked it up online and haven't found much help. I've been told that this will increase my range.
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2007-08-13, 23:11
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Well there's no point in doing it, if you don't really know what the use for it is. What do you mean range? What are you exactly trying to accomplish?
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2007-08-13, 23:13
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Maybe making each string a 5th above the other??
E-B-F#-C#-G#-D# ?
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2007-08-14, 01:03
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Would sure be interesting, although you'd have to be upto something rather than for playing boring, ordinary-playing stuff, some chords would become a bit of a hassle. Many common Stick and Warr tunings are setup with 5th's instead of 4th's. Remember, 5th's are inverted 4th's too, a hint into how it is used? Try tuning the guitar upside down, so you could have E B G D A E, is uppose then you would have an inverted 3rd between B and G. Barre minor chords! There's a use? I recommend this to chord-tremolo-picking black metal bands.
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2007-08-14, 01:36
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Originally Posted by Silent Night 6 6
Well there's no point in doing it, if you don't really know what the use for it is. What do you mean range? What are you exactly trying to accomplish?
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Actually, there is a point in doing it. Many classical guitarists such as Bert Lams use this tuning and some of the songs he performs can't be played in standard. Anyways, I think I figured it out. Basically, I tuned the low E to C and matched up each string with the 7th fret. For instance, in standard tuning the 5th fret on E is the note A.
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2007-08-14, 03:11
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correct me if im wrong but doesnt strapping young lad use this tuning? 'open tunings'? i might be mixing things up here though
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2007-08-14, 03:39
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I thougt of this about 2 years ago. Ive still never actually tried to tho.
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2007-08-14, 11:01
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Aren´t classical strings (violin etc.) tuned in fifths? GDAE if I´m not mistaken
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2007-08-14, 11:47
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I believe so.
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2007-08-14, 22:48
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I thougt of this about 2 years ago. Ive still never actually tried to tho.
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It's kind of a pain in the ass unless you have a guitar you want to dedicate to this tuning. My only reason for tuning to 5ths was to learn classical pieces.
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2007-08-22, 12:49
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Learn them in Standard tuning. Different tunings only benefit for purposes of what pitch the open strings are at, in my opinion; everything beyond that can be easily compensated just through a mild familiarity with where the notes are on the neck. There are only 12 notes, and to me any tuning-intervals other than the regular just make scales and things a nuisance, with awkward placement that often leads to the same note being played too frequently and at the expense of additional effort.
I have an erhu (a chinese 2 string violin basically) that is tuned to fifths, and I tried it with a guitar later on, but the guitar is an instrument constructed to have the notes laid out in an array of poisitions that offer mild tonal differences... Using 'fifths' etc kind of defeats the purpose of this, as the guitar neck is easy to navigate without this, unless you're wanting ease of playing different bar/apreggios etc, but even then, the desired notes are never too far away to locate, either on the same string, or on a neighboroughing string
This should illustrate my point:
D-------------------9-10-14
A---------7-8-12
E-7-8-12
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A-----7-7-8-14-15
E-7-8
Same riff, just allows for alterations in the techniques used to express the phrases. I guess that's the bigger aim of "seeking diversity through altered tunings" as an entire octave is always contained within 12 frets regardless of the tuning anyway.
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2007-08-22, 20:16
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I would have much rather learned the songs in standard but I don't think it's possible to play them correctly without tuning to fifths.
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2007-08-23, 01:53
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This doesn't help, but I'm learning a classical piece tuned like this:
C#-G#-C#-G#-C#-E
It's called Koyunbaba, and it's awesome if anyone wants to look it up. And yeah, haha, impossible to play standard.
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