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Old 2007-08-09, 03:46
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NS2 problem

I bought it second hand. It gets the job basically, but problem is that it takes too much time to silence up the noise if you know what I mean, even when threshold is at max. My friend has this same pedal, and with threshold at six o'clock it silences up the noise pretty fast. What could be the problem?
 
Old 2007-08-09, 17:42
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Your threshold is too high? :P

Anyway, does it have a release parameter knob? If so turn that down.
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Old 2007-08-09, 18:06
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Set the decay knob all the way down. If that still doesn't work, are you using it in the amp's FX loop, after your guitar, or after a dist pedal?
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Old 2007-08-10, 00:07
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No, it's NS-2, it doesn't have release knob
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/PRODUCTS/...mages/top_L.jpg

Soeru, I've tried playing with decay knob and nothing :/

I put all other pedals in loop (send/return) and input/output for plugging guitar to ns-2/amp. Is it possible that previous owner changed some component in it? If so, what component could it be?
 
Old 2007-08-10, 08:22
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If you're running your guitar straight into the pedal then into the amp, there's the problem, I get the same problem. It fades out with a "screeching" kind of machine-like noise right? Yeah that happens to me to, it's because of high gain pickups. If you use very good cables, this problem is fixed almost 100% though.

The NS2 works best in my experience in the FX loop of an amp because it's a line level, not a high dB level like instrument or overdrive pedal-level signals. These high dB signals carry a lot of noise and the NS2 can't distinguish exactly what part of the sound is noise/hum and your guitar signal. The signal is so strong that part of it gets through because the NS2 doesn't pick it up in time.

Do this: Turn the threshold on max, decay on min. Make slow gentle movements of your hands on the strings. If the sound gets through the noisegate(if the reduction bulb goes off) then that is what is happening, the NS2 is too sensitive for guitar-level signals.

If your amp has an FX loop, run it into that. If not, just set the threshold very high and experiment with the decay.

Btw, release = decay.
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Old 2007-08-11, 03:23
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No, no, no, I run cable from guitar to ns2 input and cable from ns2 output to amp. Cable from send goes to first pedal in chain, and cable from last pedal in chain goes to ns2 return. That's how it's supposed to be, I read that in manual.

Thanks, I already did that with threshold and all that and it's cool, but pedal from my friend only has to be set at like 6 o'clock (it's new though) to get same effect as my pedal with set threshold on max (the bigger the threshold=the bigger loss in signal quality) .
 
Old 2007-08-11, 15:14
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Did you try another battery? If not take it back
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Old 2007-08-11, 19:40
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Ehhh can't do, guy is not here anymore

But I wouldn't even if he is still here cuz this pedal does at least one good thing - when I turn my volume pot down I don't need to switch off any of my pedals, there is no hiss
 
Old 2007-08-11, 22:15
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No, no, no, I run cable from guitar to ns2 input and cable from ns2 output to amp.


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If you're running your guitar straight into the pedal then into the amp, there's the problem... it's because of high gain pickups. If you use very good cables, this problem is fixed almost 100% though.

The NS2 works best in my experience in the FX loop of an amp because it's a line level, not a high dB level like instrument or overdrive pedal-level signals. These high dB signals carry a lot of noise and the NS2 can't distinguish exactly what part of the sound is noise/hum and your guitar signal. The signal is so strong that part of it gets through because the NS2 doesn't pick it up in time.


Yeah just reposting that cause I don't think you saw it. Also, what pedals are you using in the NS2 effects loop? The only thing you really need to run in the NS FX loop are distortion/OD pedals. EQ pedals can go in the amp's effects loop, or right after your guitar before the ns2, but no reason for it to go in the Fx loop of the pedal(in fact, it's probably making it noisier by a small amount, since you're adding another cable in the chain.)

Try running just the NS2 in your amp's effects loop, no other pedals, and see if you still get the problem.

(btw I finally figured out EZD, thx! )
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Old 2007-08-12, 00:30
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Well, on this one place we're renting amps don't have fx loop. Except for dist pedals (ds1,metal master or bad monkey) I am using boss ge7 in ns loop.

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