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Old 2007-05-03, 13:19
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well...anything odd you do with your guitar? for example, like Vai, do you stuff your spring cavity with tissue papers? like Van Halen, do you boil your strings? if you have a floyd rose, do you leave your nuts locked, and cut the excess string from the head stock, or unlocked and keep changing your tunings during a song? if you have an acoustic, do you keep a wet spong inside your acoustic guitar to keep it from drying? and i dont mean messed up tunings that you made on your own either. etc etc etc....


so, anything?

me, i tried that tissue paper thing with my spring cavity. at first i hated it coz it too away from my treble, my harmonics were minimal, and pinch harmonics were impossible! but at the same time, my riffs, and my rhythm picked up tremendously. so i'm thinking of putting that in one of my guitars as a rhythm guitar, andthe other, i'll keep as a lead

the other thing is, looking at those fernandez sustainor pickups, i started messing around with magnets. put a magnet right over a pickup that you're using, but make sure its not touching the string, it kinda sounds like you're using an ebo. it works best with those magnets found in speakers/cabnets etc. and also if you use steel strings rather than chrome, nickle or soemthing else.
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Old 2007-05-03, 20:02
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Old 2007-05-03, 20:07
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well...anything odd you do with your guitar? for example, like Vai, do you stuff your spring cavity with tissue papers? like Van Halen, do you boil your strings? if you have a floyd rose, do you leave your nuts locked, and cut the excess string from the head stock, or unlocked and keep changing your tunings during a song? if you have an acoustic, do you keep a wet spong inside your acoustic guitar to keep it from drying? and i dont mean messed up tunings that you made on your own either. etc etc etc....


so, anything?

me, i tried that tissue paper thing with my spring cavity. at first i hated it coz it too away from my treble, my harmonics were minimal, and pinch harmonics were impossible! but at the same time, my riffs, and my rhythm picked up tremendously. so i'm thinking of putting that in one of my guitars as a rhythm guitar, andthe other, i'll keep as a lead

the other thing is, looking at those fernandez sustainor pickups, i started messing around with magnets. put a magnet right over a pickup that you're using, but make sure its not touching the string, it kinda sounds like you're using an ebo. it works best with those magnets found in speakers/cabnets etc. and also if you use steel strings rather than chrome, nickle or soemthing else.


The Vai tissuepaper in trem cavity is to stop the springs from vibrating, which sometimes they do and it gets picked up by the pickups... not just a silly fad.
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Old 2007-05-03, 20:15
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nah...i can't think of anything strange i do. never tried anything unusual either really.
 
Old 2007-05-03, 20:16
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I like to use bore oil instead of lemon oil on my fret boards. That's kinda rare and odd to some people.
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Old 2007-05-03, 22:44
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The Vai tissuepaper in trem cavity is to stop the springs from vibrating, which sometimes they do and it gets picked up by the pickups... not just a silly fad.

Does it really take away from treble and pinch harmonics? I REALLY need to do this to my Charvel neckthru. The ghost notes are killing me, but I don't wanna lose any harmonics or sustain or treble.
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Old 2007-05-03, 23:16
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Does it really take away from treble and pinch harmonics? I REALLY need to do this to my Charvel neckthru. The ghost notes are killing me, but I don't wanna lose any harmonics or sustain or treble.



it works for me. but may not work for you. different guitars work differently. so try it. worth a shot
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Old 2007-05-11, 10:20
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tissue in the spring cavity shouldn't dampen the strings at all.. harmonics and sustain should be as they are normally.. i tried this before when my springs kept vibrating and making shit sounds, but used a rag instead of tissue, and it worked absolutely perfectly
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Old 2007-05-11, 12:55
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Does it ever get stuck if you do a lot of whammy bar shit? Ill probably pop some tissue in today.
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Old 2007-05-13, 14:07
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it should absorb the sound. i mean, if you ever tried making your own sound proof room, or if you ever tried doing projects like shouting in a pillow or using a gun while wrapped around a thick layer of sweaters. it absorbs the sound. it wouldnt absorb bass sounds coz bass is much harder to absorb. like if you ever had some gangster fucker pull up his car beside you, his stupid music starts to make your car vibrate like some crazy lil dildo.

but then again, there are certian pickups that arnt affected by that. the hotter, or active pickups prolly wont have a change in sound. but some single pickups, or other pickups, it just might work
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I have a question though does the tissue paper really have to be tight inside the cavity, do I need to use a lot? Or just a small mount pressing against the springs will do?
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Old 2007-05-13, 16:32
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The foam-ish stuff you get in the EMG packs works wonders for stopping the springs from vibrating although I have to say that it does take away some of the treble.
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Old 2007-05-13, 16:56
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I' too much of a n00b to do anyhting creative like that lol. well my charvell has a very warm rythemish tone, i hate it squeals arent easy any suggestions?
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I' too much of a n00b to do anyhting creative like that lol. well my charvell has a very warm rythemish tone, i hate it squeals arent easy any suggestions?

Work on technique, find a new part on the string where it's easier to pull em off? Adjust the gain on your amp accordingly, new pickups too perhaps.
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Old 2007-05-14, 01:45
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I have a question though does the tissue paper really have to be tight inside the cavity, do I need to use a lot? Or just a small mount pressing against the springs will do?



umm..i just grabbed about 8 or 9 klneex pieces, give em a couple of folds, and make sure it fits in just fine with the cavity. if you have a floyd rose, then you may be able to see it from the bottom of the bridge(on the front of the body)...but it depends on how you're using it.

more loose cloth-like-material, more sound absorbant it is.
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Old 2007-05-15, 21:14
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I thought Vai used cotton instead of tissue paper. One weird thing I do is i made a coushion out of paper towels for the Locking nut on my Westone because it kept breaking strings. It works fine and is cheaper than a new nut.
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Old 2007-05-16, 14:19
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I thought Vai used cotton instead of tissue paper. One weird thing I do is i made a coushion out of paper towels for the Locking nut on my Westone because it kept breaking strings. It works fine and is cheaper than a new nut.



wait...so you removed your locking nut? interesting...

but all the strings i ever break on my floyd are always closer to my bridge, as suppose to my nut, so perhaps your nut had some sharp edge that kept breaking it or somthing...?

but a paper towel, wouldnt that force you to sacrifice your open chords? but would cut down on noise if you're sloppy, or somthing
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Old 2007-05-21, 20:58
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well...anything odd you do with your guitar?


i play it
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Old 2007-05-21, 21:45
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Old 2007-05-21, 22:13
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Old 2007-05-22, 04:08
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wait...so you removed your locking nut? interesting...

but all the strings i ever break on my floyd are always closer to my bridge, as suppose to my nut, so perhaps your nut had some sharp edge that kept breaking it or somthing...?

but a paper towel, wouldnt that force you to sacrifice your open chords? but would cut down on noise if you're sloppy, or somthing


I didn't take the nut off, all I do with the paper towel is put it between the strings and the base of the nut, for coushion. Then I screw the plates down on the nut. The guitar is like 20 years old so I need to do weird stuff to it to keep it working!
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Old 2007-05-22, 04:50
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If you're breaking strings, get nut sauce.
 
Old 2007-05-22, 05:05
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Better yet, get a new nut and have it setup properly for your string gauge.

Paper towels are expensive as shit!
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Old 2007-05-22, 05:09
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Well, assuming you've already done that, then use nut sauce and you'll stay in tune more and break less strings.
 
Old 2007-05-22, 05:38
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Old 2007-05-23, 04:00
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Well I don't think the nut sauce will help. The reason it breaks strings (or at least why I think it does) is because it used to have 3 darker pieces of metal where the strings rest. But there was only one left when i got it (used for only $150), which quickly fell out. Thus leaving indentions in the nut, so when I tighten the top part it pushes the strings down into the indentions, causing it to break. As for a new nut, A floyd style nut will work on a Westone...right?
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Old 2007-05-23, 04:15
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I don't see why not. There are a few different sizes of those Floyd nuts so make sure you get the right one. I used to have a badass Westone back in the early 90's with a floyd nut and a Kahler Spyder bridge. I wish I still had it really, because that fucker was a player. I have only found 2 Westone guitars just like it in the last 10 years, both on ebay and not cheap. It was some weird rare model that no one seems to have a name for.

Westone is a great guitar and follow standard hardware measurements. A new nut shouldn't be hard to have installed.
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Old 2007-05-23, 04:18
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I really like my westone, just the last guy to have it was a cunt and couldn't take care of a guitar. Once I get a job I will try to "restore" it. Is there a way to install the nut without drilling holes in the back of the neck?
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Old 2007-05-23, 05:37
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after changing strings I eat them so that I may consume their power. Also I rub applesauce all along the bridge so that it is super fast.
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Old 2007-05-23, 07:06
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I really like my westone, just the last guy to have it was a cunt and couldn't take care of a guitar. Once I get a job I will try to "restore" it. Is there a way to install the nut without drilling holes in the back of the neck?


I don't see why not. Just use the same screws to install the new nut.
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