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emotions vs. technicality
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i'm just about to punch a whole through the next person who argues with me about this. not just that, but i will pull out their entire guts, tie em around their head and hang them from the cn tower for 2 days, before i take em to the pyramids and throw em from the top of the pyramids and let em roll off!
i mean, i've heard this from just about everyone. metal guitarists who are extremly technical lack soul, and emotions. and people who play blues or soft rock, and really slow stuff are over flowing with soul, and have soul and emotions oozing out of their nose. and likewise, every metal/speed/fast guitarist sucks coz of that fact..or as they believe 'fact'
what the hell is up with that?! if a guitarist didnt have any emotions, then he/she/it wouldnt even play a guitar. i'm sorry, but if a solo consists of you bending on one string, and 1 fret, and you using lots of WAH and Reverb to make it look epically sad, that is not emotion! i dont care how much you say, its not emotion. and some people who say that guitarists like steve vai have soul(when they look at him) but when they hear him, they say he lacks soul. he makes funny faces, and thus he has 'soul'....whow, i guess i need to wear a happy face mask and i'll have soul!!!! YEAH!
i wont be surprised if guitarists like yngwie malmsteen slows down everything he plays, people would say he has emotions. i mean, not too long ago, i was at this show. this guy was playing the keys. it was beethoven's 'moonlight sonata'. when he was going at it, EVERYONE in the audince(who wasn't into metal. just old hags and their families) was saying that the pianist/syths guy had lots of soul. and then the guitarist comes in. he plays the EXACT same thing with the same speed, and he gets shot at saying he sucks and lacks emotion....and he wasnt sloppy. he didnt make any mistakes. he was on key, and was doing everything perfectly fine. and i actually really liked it.
i'm sorry, but do you guys see soemthing wrong with this picture? where do you stand? and if you think you know what soul and emotion is all about....do explain!
thanks for reading my rant. now rant away!
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I'll start off by saying people have a habit of being ignorant idiots. People will always slam players who have put in thousands of hours of practice out of jealousy. Notice how the word "lousy" appears in "jealousy". Those that charge these musicians with having "no soul" could never write the same level of music themselves, not even at a technical but on a musically satisfying level. It's much easier to bitch than it is to work at your skills.
Emotion? Technicality? Whatever, as long as you write good riffs/music. If it moves you, then great, if it doesn't, then move on.
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It's called people that don't know shit about guitar commenting....that is all, it's not that hard to understand.
And no, not all metal players have no soul, just people that blaze mindlessly up and down the neck.....
Also, unless the person can play all 3 parts of Moonlight Sonata flawlessly and with a good feel, I do not want them to speak.
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he didnt play the whole moonlight sonata. he just played the main riff that is prolly what jumps to mind when people say 'moonlight sonata', and then he jumped to the end of the second, and start of the 3rd. where as the pianist dude played the first, and then jumped to the middle of the second, and then played the main part and left it at that....and they werent cocky fuckers either. at the end of the thing, they actually apologized to the audience for thier sucking, and them jumping from part to part...i thought that that was cool
anyways, no, this ignorant shit doesnt only exist in people who dont know shit about guitars. like i know a few musicians that play guitar, drums, keys, bass, or some other shit, and they range fromplaying it for 2 years, to 20 years, and some of them say that guitarists like alexi laiho, buckethead(have they heard his other stuff? he shreds, and makes people cry coz of his awsomness yet people still wanna bitch!), zakk wylde, adrian smith etc have no soul...yet guitarists like neil young constantly farts out soul/emotion with his old age...nothing againt oldies though
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The guy doesn't know shit about music if all he does is go around bashing other players just because he doesn't like them.....even though some do deserve to be bashed.....I'll respect anyone that can make a nice attempt at movement 3.
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Also , no big deal to me if it sounds good its good, end of fucking story. Also fuck old people......
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'Emotions' are for fags and emo kids. When I see a band live I wanna mosh, not cry because I feel the guitarist's pain
People who ANALyse tbhings like this too much and as a result whine about it should find something better in life to do. I didn't pick up a guitar with the blind ambition of playing it to please people, and I'm pretty sure a lot of you here are similar. It's only music; a concoction of sound to please the ear and mind
Things like a sweeped arpreggio rather than a barrage of dull repetitive barre chords are rarely taken into consideration for the bullshit imaginary debate of 'emotion' in your playing. Those who play with emotion are usually just pentatonic wonders, crying about having only 5 notes per scale when malmsteen has 7
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Dude... thats rediculous. YOUR soul is asking for something different than mine. You just don't understand how those techniques used in death metal moves certain people. Just as you use violent metaphors in your comments to get your point across, metal uses technicality. I don't claim to understand what soul is for anyone else but myself.
I believe that you do not know enough to make the judgments you make. You don't know what it is fans of death metal (Fast, technical music) are searching for. You are trying to fit objectivity into subjectivity, and that is an action of futility. You're judgements will have no effect, and as far as you should be concerened, your starting of this thread has been a waste of your time. Your trying to fit the circle piece into the square hole. Give it up, before you make yourself look anymore (hate to say it) ignorant.
You said it yourself.
[QUOTE=soliloquy]if a guitarist didnt have any emotions, then he/she/it wouldnt even play a guitar. [QUOTE]
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'Emotions' are for fags and emo kids. When I see a band live I wanna mosh, not cry because I feel the guitarist's pain
People who ANALyse tbhings like this too much and as a result whine about it should find something better in life to do. I didn't pick up a guitar with the blind ambition of playing it to please people, and I'm pretty sure a lot of you here are similar. It's only music; a concoction of sound to please the ear and mind
Things like a sweeped arpreggio rather than a barrage of dull repetitive barre chords are rarely taken into consideration for the bullshit imaginary debate of 'emotion' in your playing. Those who play with emotion are usually just pentatonic wonders, crying about having only 5 notes per scale when malmsteen has 7
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You are the exact example of the type of people I'm talking about.....what you're saying makes no sense. Emo kids are not "emotional", they just whine depressed all the time. Emotions can be rage, sadness, hapiness, etc. Some people like music because of it's effects other than making you want to run around a pit.
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I listen to music because it is mind-altering, and creative musicians can conjure up different emotions or imagery, regardless of genre trappings. You do not need to look outside of metal(except the more popular bands) to find creative musicians/guitarists that play memorable music with shitloads of emotion.
I don't really enjoy strictly shred oriented music as much as the next person, but I have to admit I generally LIKE bands that challenge themselves and create music that could be considered technical. I'm sorry but I'd rather listen to Necrophagist(which I don't really like) than Sunn O))).
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Yeah thats great and all but look outside of the image. why do we go to shows. why do we strive to be better than we think we can be. its about being satisfied withyourself. these emo kids arent gay because they would rather not beat the shit out of each other. id rather mosh and i think hardcore dancing is rediculous but like its been said before dont bash something just because you dont like it. man whatever it takes to get into the music. and yea any musician has soul... unless the play to be cool. any and every musician has somethign to teach you about style... dont be close minded oipen your ears and listen. even if in your opinion they suck... learn man. it all comes down to being well rounded. and for fucks sake... emotions are not for fags.. its called being human... aperantly something this civilization has forgotten about. |
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Technicality can be emotions. If it came from someone's honest musical convictions, then it is this 'emotion'.
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anybody who plays an instrument with some form of experience and skill will know that they use emotion in their playing. Fuck, when i solo, i go between painfully slow runs up to shred speed, i do what i feel.
Honestly, fuck the opinions of everybody who doesnt play. If you don't play, and dont experience what others do, you'll have no fucking idea how the emotion is expressed, so your opinion means NOTHING. Its like criticizing somebody for having no emotion when they speak a language you dont understand. If you criticize somthing you dont understand, you're just talking out of your ass: It means NOTHING. This is just plain fucking stupid.
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PUngency...the hell you talking about? i'm talking about people who shoot down fast guitarists coz they think that those guitarists are too technical, and thus lack emotion. yet they praise slow guitarists coz they have emotion....
guitarists who shred have committed 1000's of hours on their guitar, where as guitarists who just bend on string on a fret, and call it a 'mind blowing and emotional solo' are just stupid.
i guess you missed my point
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I think "soul" is an imaginary buzz word that dumb people use to sound smart.
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PUngency...the hell you talking about? i'm talking about people who shoot down fast guitarists coz they think that those guitarists are too technical, and thus lack emotion. yet they praise slow guitarists coz they have emotion....
guitarists who shred have committed 1000's of hours on their guitar, where as guitarists who just bend on string on a fret, and call it a 'mind blowing and emotional solo' are just stupid.
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i think you missed his point... the idea is that its subjective, and there is no way to judge it, and all you're trying to do is well... judge it. But i see your point that some people are fucktards and dont know what theyre talking about.
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You are the exact example of the type of people I'm talking about.....what you're saying makes no sense. Emo kids are not "emotional", they just whine depressed all the time. Emotions can be rage, sadness, hapiness, etc. Some people like music because of it's effects other than making you want to run around a pit.
And wtf are you talking about w/ Pentatonic wonders? What is this nonsense? I don't think you've heard a truly inventive, creative, soulful, skilled palyer before.
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Haha sorry, I forgot a Brtion's finest humour of sarcasm is utterly useless on the internet, a lot of the 'points' i made were pretty exaggeratted and stereotypical so I thought some would've seen the humour and a hint of reality in it
Besides, a lot of what are viewed as musical emotions come from techniques regarding sound manipulation (i.e. what tones to use and when) as oppose to being mainly orientated around the physical input of a guitar player. People don't realise this, but just one of many examples is how the simple fifth interval creates a euphoric feeling of uprising. No wonder it's used so commonly at 'important' parts of religious hymns and that shite... It confuses retards into thinking it's spiritual molestation
So based on that... Emotion, when boiled down, seems to be more involved in the mental side of a human, as oppose to this mystical 'soul' uncultured blues artists are so hung up on. It exists in the form of how people develop a sense of what notes to play and when, along with all the other shite people take for granted when listening to songs such as key, intervals etc etc...
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PUngency...the hell you talking about? i'm talking about people who shoot down fast guitarists coz they think that those guitarists are too technical, and thus lack emotion. yet they praise slow guitarists coz they have emotion....
guitarists who shred have committed 1000's of hours on their guitar, where as guitarists who just bend on string on a fret, and call it a 'mind blowing and emotional solo' are just stupid.
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wait, whatever the bleeding said also makes sense. i guess we both are to blame for misunderstanding....oh well
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people who whine about how the extreme players have no emotion are jealous and ignorant. if you turn around and insult the "slower" players that the ignorant people are praising, you're being just as ignorant. music has the power to move people, irrespective of its difficulty. that's easy to forget when you get all wrapped up and competitive in playing guitar. i think deifiler nailed it with his point about sound manipulation. i don't see much correlation between technical proficiency and emotion (if by emotion you mean the power of a song to spark something in you, to give you the "chill bumps" etc.)
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invalid argument, look at anatas last cd, extremely emotional, extremely technical.
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most guitarists have emotion in their riffs but they are hard to understand because of the speed but they are still there
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invalid argument, look at anatas last cd, extremely emotional, extremely technical.
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Oh my God.
Thread title - Emotion v Tech.
Theres no grounds for arguement there. You can be the most technical band on earth and also the most emotional. It's no like, if something is easy it is not hard, or if something is hard it is not easy. You can be emotional and technical. You can be simple and non emotional. One does not negate the other. So emotional versus technical from a standpoint of being one or the other, is stupid, like yourself.
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well if you really asked any musician that has written anything, they'd say they put emotion in it. even if its something they wrote on the fly or just because they had to. subconsciously it turned out the way it did because of their emotions/personality/psychology. its that simple.
a good chunk of the people i've heard making comments about lack of emotion don't even play an instrument. there are plenty that play and still say it..but i think they are being conceited.
even "cookie cutter" pop nu metal shit has emotions in it....even if it does seem like bullshit that was formulated in a laboratory. unless of course it was completely made by suit dummies in a board meeting and blindly played by the chosen few with the right image. but those aren't the people playing technically difficult music in the first place.
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You can't say technicality is not emotional. On a common person's level you hear constantly about the emotion of many classical and symphonic composers, being poured into their compositions, and at the same time how intricate and technically groundbreaking for the times they were.
By the logic of technicality being unemotional, an emotional player hundreds of years ago would be probably be a drunken townsperson playing a lute.
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too lazy to search...pretty sure this has been done before...
dont know where this goes...so move it as you please
i'm just about to punch a whole through the next person who argues with me about this. not just that, but i will pull out their entire guts, tie em around their head and hang them from the cn tower for 2 days, before i take em to the pyramids and throw em from the top of the pyramids and let em roll off!
i mean, i've heard this from just about everyone. metal guitarists who are extremly technical lack soul, and emotions. and people who play blues or soft rock, and really slow stuff are over flowing with soul, and have soul and emotions oozing out of their nose. and likewise, every metal/speed/fast guitarist sucks coz of that fact..or as they believe 'fact'
what the hell is up with that?! if a guitarist didnt have any emotions, then he/she/it wouldnt even play a guitar. i'm sorry, but if a solo consists of you bending on one string, and 1 fret, and you using lots of WAH and Reverb to make it look epically sad, that is not emotion! i dont care how much you say, its not emotion. and some people who say that guitarists like steve vai have soul(when they look at him) but when they hear him, they say he lacks soul. he makes funny faces, and thus he has 'soul'....whow, i guess i need to wear a happy face mask and i'll have soul!!!! YEAH!
i wont be surprised if guitarists like yngwie malmsteen slows down everything he plays, people would say he has emotions. i mean, not too long ago, i was at this show. this guy was playing the keys. it was beethoven's 'moonlight sonata'. when he was going at it, EVERYONE in the audince(who wasn't into metal. just old hags and their families) was saying that the pianist/syths guy had lots of soul. and then the guitarist comes in. he plays the EXACT same thing with the same speed, and he gets shot at saying he sucks and lacks emotion....and he wasnt sloppy. he didnt make any mistakes. he was on key, and was doing everything perfectly fine. and i actually really liked it.
i'm sorry, but do you guys see soemthing wrong with this picture? where do you stand? and if you think you know what soul and emotion is all about....do explain!
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I find that people that fail at guitar usually use this stupid argument,
When you get better at guitar you will automatically look for something harder to play and listen to therefore leading you to listen to more "technical music" otherwise you will just be a bored guitarist who's only emotion is sorrow or depression?.
What's your problem anyway there are plenty of emotional bands out there and very few tech bands so feel free to just NOT listen to the technical stuff that disgusts you so much and go back to your wow i've been playing guitar for one year look what i can do music.
Furthermore i think in most cases only people that have played guitar a long while listen to tech anyway i don't think i know someone that doesn't play guitar that listens to tech.
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You can't say technicality is not emotional. On a common person's level you hear constantly about the emotion of many classical and symphonic composers, being poured into their compositions, and at the same time how intricate and technically groundbreaking for the times they were.
By the logic of technicality being unemotional, an emotional player hundreds of years ago would be probably be a drunken townsperson playing a lute.
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For me if it's catchy, moody or memorable in some form than it's good in my books. I hate bands that use a million notes in their songs without any form of structure or direction. It's just goes on and on. Like I like technical bands like Atheist. Gorguts and Cynic who are technical but still put emotion into their music. Same with guitarists like Steve Vai.
However guitarists who just play technical for the sake of showing off I do not like. I don't care how fast they can play or how many sweeps you can do at the end of the day you are still not a very good song writter cause they focuss too much what looks cool to play rather than what sounds good.
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Inaphyt, you're missing my point. i'm not judging blues guitarist, or comparing em to a metal shredder. nor am i saying that 1 is better than the other. but people as a whole seem to believe that if a person is playing slow, he/she/it is emotionful, rather than someone shredding, who seems to have no emotion
i seem to argue with that. yet people dont seem to understand that...its not hard!
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i think it's hard to portray emotion while playing so fast as most tech sounds rather mechanical after being produced etc.
But i have no problem with this i like the lack of emotion
But calling its mindless shredding is a load of shit the songs are precise and planned and if it was a load of made up shit they shouldn't be able to play the song more than once.
The songs may lack emotion but the emotion it puts in me aka energetic and adrenaline is enough for me to listen it.
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Please to god noone argue with Inaphyt he knows nothing about music, AT ALL. There is simply no point.
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I hope noone does argue with me actually i hope people respect my opinion and offer alternative opinions.
Instead of persisting to be a complete moron
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Please to god noone argue with Inaphyt he knows nothing about music, AT ALL. There is simply no point.
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2007-05-03, 17:27
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Originally Posted by Inaphyt
i think it's hard to portray emotion while playing so fast as most tech sounds rather mechanical after being produced etc.
But i have no problem with this i like the lack of emotion
But calling its mindless shredding is a load of shit the songs are precise and planned and if it was a load of made up shit they shouldn't be able to play the song more than once.
The songs may lack emotion but the emotion it puts in me aka energetic and adrenaline is enough for me to listen it.
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well obviosly people arent going to agree with you... but if you take their opinions as them argueing than your ignorent... from the minute you pick up a guitar i believe you are playing emotionaly... doesnt matter.. if no one agrees than oh well its what i think. this whole thread was made to argue the point... |
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2007-05-03, 17:30
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you know what in a way infinity is right, i don't know much about music.
I taught myself guitar, and i don't know any chords, names of frets, i don't even know what an arpeggio is and i can't read sheet music.
However i don't intend to learn either because i can play a hell of alot without needing to know. my ears and fingers are all i need (well technically my brain arms and hands and elbows but ya...). I believe this is what makes a true musician so i will take my leave of you now.
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2007-05-03, 18:19
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Originally Posted by Inaphyt
you know what in a way infinity is right, i don't know much about music.
I taught myself guitar, and i don't know any chords, names of frets, i don't even know what an arpeggio is and i can't read sheet music.
However i don't intend to learn either because i can play a hell of alot without needing to know. my ears and fingers are all i need (well technically my brain arms and hands and elbows but ya...). I believe this is what makes a true musician so i will take my leave of you now.
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Haha owned!
I crawled from the same world. I'd much rather it be this way round though. I ahve plenty of friends that claim to know everything about music, but can't even seem to play their instruments, let alone do somethign as musically simple as improvising effectively
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2007-05-04, 03:40
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Originally Posted by Inaphyt
you know what in a way infinity is right, i don't know much about music.
I taught myself guitar, and i don't know any chords, names of frets, i don't even know what an arpeggio is and i can't read sheet music.
However i don't intend to learn either because i can play a hell of alot without needing to know. my ears and fingers are all i need (well technically my brain arms and hands and elbows but ya...). I believe this is what makes a true musician so i will take my leave of you now.
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Yeah, man, great point, you totally owned me, guess what, I TAUGHT MYSELF TOO?!!!wwfdf
What a small world man! Holy shit! Oh my fucking God I can't believe that someone else taught themselves guitar thats crazy man!
Still no reason to know fuck all about anything though. Too bad, you lose again. |
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2007-05-04, 07:32
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Technicality is technique. It can't be emotions. Emotions can be conveyed in technically advanced, heartfelt ways, but ultimately they can't be opposed, or be the same thing, because they aren't of the same type.
There is no such thing as 'emotions vs. technicality.' There's 'emotions vs. lack of emotions' and 'technicality vs. simplicity,' and these are two separate battles. The only reason they seem the same is that most people think they're diametrically opposed and spend too much time on one or the other; either they mistake competence for art and become too technical, or they mistake lack of artifice for genuineness and become too simplistic. Both cases lead to sucking. In metal the former tendency happens to be predominant, but that doesn't make emotions competitors with technique.
But it's perfectly possible to be both emotionally and technically advanced; in fact, it happened quite a bit in the heydays of classical and jazz, when the instrumentalist (who happened to be extremely talented) and the composer (who was also extremely talented) tended never to be the same person. I'd expect that much of the problem these days is the lack of division of labor.
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2007-05-04, 11:38
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2007-05-04, 12:21
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Originally Posted by Infinity
Yeah, man, great point, you totally owned me, guess what, I TAUGHT MYSELF TOO?!!!wwfdf
What a small world man! Holy shit! Oh my fucking God I can't believe that someone else taught themselves guitar thats crazy man!
Still no reason to know fuck all about anything though. Too bad, you lose again.
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Hehe it's funny how you think every post people make is comparable to you however i respect the fact you taught yourself, and also know nothing about music haha....  .
and btw i didn't even say i owned you i was making a valid point even agreeing with you yet you still appear to want an argument.
And your the one saying there's no point in bothering with me.... god. |
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2007-05-04, 14:07
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Hehe it's funny how you think every post people make is comparable to you however i respect the fact you taught yourself, and also know nothing about music haha.... .
and btw i didn't even say i owned you i was making a valid point even agreeing with you yet you still appear to want an argument.
And your the one saying there's no point in bothering with me.... god. |
I wouldn't bother to argue. It's 3.5K post count vs 80ish that you have. Shows where people have spent their time over the last few years, and general post counts are proportional to the extent of how much of an arsehole a character is. All you learn from forums beyond 200 posts are the feeble internet buzz words
Even a proper retard has the courtesy to never defile a keyboard unlike these post whores
Keep up the good work!
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2007-05-04, 16:27
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However guitarists who just play technical for the sake of showing off I do not like. I don't care how fast they can play or how many sweeps you can do at the end of the day...
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Both cases lead to sucking.
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Can you provide a more technical sentence here? 
I believe that people who embody the music they play have 'soul'. If they truly fit the part that they play, and if you can understand the relationship between the player and the music, then that's how you define 'soul'.
If you took an actual robot and gave him a guitar and let it play a music piece (exactly as the original) that is considered 'soulful', I suppose the robot has soul too. Of course not, it's a damn robot with no soul in the first place.
So, if you take this discussion to another level, what about multitrack songs on albums now? Producers cut up tracks and piece them together. All the mystery is gone, and it is replaced with technology and perfection. So if I hear a song on one of these overly produced albums, can you even consider it being 'soulful'?
Does soul only apply in a live situation? |
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Originally Posted by Inaphyt
you know what in a way infinity is right, i don't know much about music.
I taught myself guitar, and i don't know any chords, names of frets, i don't even know what an arpeggio is and i can't read sheet music.
However i don't intend to learn either because i can play a hell of alot without needing to know. my ears and fingers are all i need (well technically my brain arms and hands and elbows but ya...). I believe this is what makes a true musician so i will take my leave of you now.
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hell yea. u took the thoughts right out of my head
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