Me and this chick started dating a little bit ago and im a sophomore in high school and shes in 8th grade.Shes only 2 years younger than me and b/c of it people are gving me so much shit over it.They say its not b/c of her age its b/c shes in jr high.What do you guys think? Should i continue dating her and say fuck off to everyone else or am i really some wierdo for dating her? Dont post if your gonna just talk shit or degrade please

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age difference is a much bigger deal when it concerns young people. be careful of statutory rape.


however, i wouldn't date an 8th grader if I were in 10th.

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isnt the school year nearly over?

you wont even see the people, who are talking shit, during the summer, and then when school starts again, she'll be in highschool. when i was in 11th grade, my ex was in 9th. all things considered, im going to need a passionate sex tape, to truly access the situation.

i doubt hes 18...

So how old are you? I'm not familiar with this "sophomore" crap.

Its cool man, don't worry about it.

Take maturity into consideration. That's really all the matters. In my opinion.

Although it's not like your dumb highschool relationship will ever mean anything, so why even bother?

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he's either 15 or 16

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qft

but that may just be bitterness that i never scored any 12 year old tang

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i was in 10th, going out with a girl in 9th. Got a chat about that as well. Now im a freshman in college going out with a junior in HS... well i dropped out sophomore year, so im "supposed" to be a junior now as well.

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I wouldn't worry about your friends so much as her parents. What do they think of you. If they hate you, I'd stop seeing her. If not, then you got nothing to worry about.

You're not doing anything wrong.

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Sophomore is 10th grade in the states. Some of our Jr highs around here are 7,8, and 9th grade with high school the last 3 years. One is 7th and 8th in one building , 9th in the old high school, and 10th, 11th, and 12th in the brand new one. It all depends on how the district is set up.

As long as you aren't in the baby-making process I wouldn't worry about your relationship. Younger girls like older guys because they're usually more mature than their peers. That can be good and bad. If her folks like you, don't do anything to mess that up. That makes life more liveable. Do whatch what you talk to friends about though so it doesn't come back and bite ya on the behind.

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You're always doing something wrong when you ask the internet forum for personal advice.

The big thing is that teenagers tend to invent most of their world without noticing, so it's probably the case that this isn't a big deal, since the age difference isn't huge and I doubt you're on opposite sides of sexual maturity, or a real relationship, since most 8th grade girls date a guy for incredibly childish and superficial reasons. On the flip side, since you perceive these as both having meaning, that in itself can be damaging, both in that your dissonance in dating a younger girl might fuck with you, and in that the relationship itself might. So it's really trying to figure out what matters more, which none of us can help you with.

Dont listen to the shit people give you. Make up your own mind. Forget age difference. Chicks are supposedly more mature for their age anyway. But if you are looking for reasons to justify it, don't. You're either gonna do this or not, if you want to, you do it. If you don't, don't do it. That's it.

The only thing that keeps me from being gay is that I fucking hate men.

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Make her preggers, have a shotgun wedding, and flip the bird at everyone as a married man who's getting some sweet, young poonani.

People used to give me shit in high school for dating a guy less than 2 months younger than me, because he was a grade below me (I was in 12, he in 11). Then, at the age of 17 I dated a 20 year old guy. His ex's sister called him a cradle snatcher for it. My current boyfriend was 19 when he got called a cradle snatcher by a girl at his work for dating me (I was 18 at the time, and so was she). He's a year and two-and-a-half months older than me.

It's a very common, childish and easy-as-piss way to give people shit. Easy to pick, and it has that juicy hint of pedophilia, which makes most people cringe in guilt. Ignore.

If only the gays felt the same way. The world would be a better place.

In my opinion, if the girl looks like they're matured and equipped with breastesses AND is within a 5-years-younger range, it's ok. If people give you shit about it, it can mean thay are jealous that you can get someone who's that young, are very sad people with nothing to do, or (obvious reason) are just that conservative.

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I'm 17 and I'm going out with an 11 year old... don't even worry about it.

look at your parents. whats the age gap there? prolly more than it is here.

That's nice. At least you both share the same education level

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lol 'went out' with an 11 year old... what did you talk about, pokemon?

AFAI am concerned, theres no problem as long as the maturity is there, both mentally and sexually. i think an 11 year old i maybe a bit of a stretch. but in the end, dont listen to anyone else, do what you want.

I was interested in a 17 year old girl, and then she just started dating a 16 year old guy. LOL.

I'm 21 and it felt so naughty and wrong even to think about her. I honestly told her to come back when she was 18. That's all I need is little girls breaking my heart.

13-14 year old vagina? Godamn, enjoy that shit while it's still legal!

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Yes, she's part of the super elite with an IQ greater than 200.


Jesus G. Christ, I was joking! I have barely even gone out, let alone with a preteen.



There's no grass!!!

first part was to you, second part to original poster

You guys must have never been layed before. Believe me, sex is way better later in life with girls older than 19-20. Why? They are not girls any longer and they know it. They are women and they will take what they want. I'm not proud to say it, but I started sleeping around at age 13 with girls about the same age and it was a noob fest. When I was 16 I scared my first true love I was so comfortable with sex and she was a year older than me. If you like sneaking around, sleeping with scared partners that can't mentally and physically apply themselves ( including you ), while at the same time taking a major chance at making your future ever more difficult; then fuck your self retarded.

It wasn't until I was an independent adult that sex with other independent women really became all that it was dreamed to be.

Sex can wait, believe me it can wait. Even inexperienced adults make better and extremely fun partners, compared to inexperienced teens that don't have the confidence or responsibility to completely enjoy sex.

Enjoy being young and don't confuse things. Is there something wrong with making great friends that last the rest of your lives. Intimacy is really 90% mental so setup for the future. Be intimate without complicating things with sex. Then when its really time for sex and those great female friends you made when younger will provide you with a regret free lifetime that even pornstars envy.

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yeah... that explains the thread

clearly this thread isnt about sex. go away.

EVERYTHING is about sex, have you no balls?

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Just tell them to fuck off. Two years is nothing.

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This is true. But this girl will be so experienced at sex at such a young age! lol......

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wait, thats a thought. not that 19-20 is "such a young age", but if people DONT have sex at this time, there will be no "older experienced sex", so it is sort of important, at least if there is any of this magical old, wrinkly sex that Soul is talking about

That is the implicit point in Soul's post, intended or not. People only get experience by doing. So fuck lots of 13 year olds.

The point is not whether or not the relationship is actually appropriate and the age gap meaningless - everybody knows that it is. But, when you're a teenager, what actually 'is' doesn't matter as much as what you perceive something to be. And what you perceive is conditioned by people around you, no matter how much of a courting-disagreement Randian rugged individual you are, so if their opinion in some way reflects yours you might end up happier by breaking up with her.

But, like I said, this depends on you. I, personally, would keep hitting the illegal pussy.

Teenagers are too young to know how to have good sex regardless of experience.

Young sex is perverted.

Mature sex is better than life.

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Awkwardness sure does sound sexy when you put it that way...

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do you realize that this makes no sense? it also has nothing to do with my post that you quoted.

now you are being really ridiculous. ...yes two 16 year olds having sex is perverted

That was my point

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but it doesnt make sense. you are saying that if a teenager has more sexual experience than Ron Jeremy, they cannot have good sex just because of their age?

you know, there is this amazing skateboarder who is like 8 or 9. he, obviously doesnt have that many years of experience, but he is damn good, and learned very quick. catch the comparison?

i know sex has opinions, based on morality, but its... odd to say that a very experienced, young couple, cannot have good sex.

Just go by the ol' saying 'One for the lads', you'll not go far wrong with that

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Timedragon is right.

Just think about the people going to jail even looking at pictures of young girls...FUCK THAT SHIT DRYYYYYYYYYY BITCHHHHHHHHHHHEZ.

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Really dont see the big deal man aslong as you like her, i date a girl who was a jr in high school and i was a freshmen in college about the youngest ivet went....always been into fucking peoples mothers....

Also ive never had bad sex just bad pussy, you can get ahold of some chicks and their pussy will feel like a boil of soup, maybe i should start dating younger chicks and get ahold of some virgin ass...na been there done that have any of you had an experience with a virgin? I fucked this virgin one time and it took me 30 minutes to get my dick inside of her i was like WTF? and it took like 2 weeks to get her broke in....needless to say i shall never ever get ahold of another one..after braking up with her she turned into a str8 up whore also...the irony in what i do in life....

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Who says you can't enjoy it when its not legal? Its called being cautious...

Besides 14 year old vagina is probably the exact same thing as any other chicks. If anything horrible. Horrible because shes obviously gonna suck in bed. Period. Unless she is a slut then any of this thought that "ooh shes 14 its gonna be nice inside" goes right out the window.

The worst lays i've ever had was with virgins. Fucking awful. Not to mention the worst ever lay was with a 14 year old. (i wasn't her first either).

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what the fuck. as far as im concerned, a chick CANT suck at sex. im fuckin dominant and i am the one who makes it good or bad. ok... wow, cowgirl, yay, i dont like that anyway, i fuckin take charge, and i do the job. if someone says "this girl sucks at sex", thats because the guy didnt know what kind of sex to deliver. if shes a lazy bitch, maybe she wont ride, big deal, get on her, and do your part. young, old, it doesnt matter, id ram them in the same damn way. bastards.

Your sex sounds like masturbation with another body. Even when you're on top she should be doing something, and some girls do that better than others. Unless you don't let her, in which case she's just your hand.

dude....the last time I saw teenagers make-out was in Middle and High school, and I laughed at them hard enough to make them turn to look.
...and this is how they mostly did it......
...a young dude sticking his tongue inside a girl's mouth while at the same time trying to rap his lips around her face and chin,....

....that's perverted and childish, and they probably had their time in bed as well--while their parents were at work.
I'll wait until I have a job, car, and live alone in my own home until I'll finally show women what they're missing....I think it would be too embarassing to invite a potential chick to yer parents house, ask for the car to go out, and/or wait until they're asleep to have your quiet sex in the room you grew up in.

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Do it in the room she grew up in.

Incidentally, many people who wait until they're older end up doing that stupid embarassing shit then. It's best to learn the mechanics early, so you don't end up being a ridiculous toolbag when it matters.

What a perfect discription of exactly what i'm refering to.

Hell also chicks can be horrible even if they "move." Time ever have a chick almost break your cock in half because she has no fucking idea how to move on a penis? You just wait.

Whats funny is i remmeber one time when you attempted to call me "macho" and all that other bs. Funny because what you just said is probably the most "macho" set of comments of them all...

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I've only had two embarassing moments....and I believe they pretty much cover all the ballpark....

1. Got drunk....had to stop sex because I wanted to throw up in her bathroom

2. No condom, so it took me a lot less time.....say 3-4 minutes to finish. Hahaha...I finished....rolled off, and she went out for a cig.

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haha nice nice. Yeah number 2 is typical for new things, or just having an "unlucky night."

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Wasn't unlucky or new...for me condoms take away most of the friction so I can go longer.

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haha, thats kind of true. but its still 20x better than masturbation, no matter how bad one may put it.


you laugh at people who are kissing... your comments, on the matter, keep getting worse and worse.

For me it seems the other way around. Since there is always constant "pressure," touching and tightness associated with condoms i get off easier. But then again i'm more used to not using them than using em.

And by unlucky everybody has those nights were they start going and its just like well damn this thing needs some serious warming up before i attempt to do anything for real or its not gonna last. This is a definite sign of lack of 4 play. Something i almost never have. (not by choice)

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Wow cunt, you didn't read the whole post...why am I not surprised.

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no, i read it, but you were using this one incident, which im am going to assume you exaggerated on, as the representation of young kissing... which is bullshit. wow, you saw a ridiculous couple kissing. that doesnt fucking reflect how the rest of the people around you do things. when i was in 11th grade, i fucked my girlfriend, at my house, and my parents did happen to be at work... i fail to see how this is a bad thing, compared to you not having sex untill you were about 22, which you did state on this forum.

you do realize that you are using "perverted" in the wrong sense dont you? you just said that you a young couple, who you saw as inexperienced in KISSING!, was perverted... you are not making sense.

You fucking moron. There should be 100x more homos, that would not only cure our overpopulation problem, but would open up a new world where I suddenly had much less competition for all the hot girls. Think about it- I could have 3 or 4 beautiful women at the same time and they wouldn't even dump me over it. Maybe I spent too much time being an LDS as a kid.

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It wasn't exaggerated.

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Bitch bitch bitch OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY WEREN'T KISSING RIGHT CALL THE FUCKING WAHMBULANCE. I suppose if they started later they'd be much better at it?

It's not about how skilled they are at fucking, that will come with practice. It's not about having your own place and a car either. The two main problems that come with young girls/boys fucking older guys/women are sexual health and relationship power dynamic problems.

How can a 13 year old girl get pap smears, go on the pill or get her routine STD/vaginal infection tests, unless she's very smart and responsible or has awesome parents? How would a boy that age obtain a supply of good quality, non-vending machine condoms and lube? Would that young couple march into a gynecologist's office together to sit down and talk about contraception and pregnancy symptoms with the nurse? With great difficulty, or not at all, that's how. The majority of "adult" people never do that shit anyway, I am the constant source of advice to people who think that the pill and the condom are the only means of contraception available.

Mainly though, you're not allowed to fuck kids because as an adult, you're in a position of power. Children tend to be a lot more naive, more hopelessly romantic and a lot more moldable. Sure, they could get manipulated and hurt when they're older, but by that time they will be able to deal with it as adults do, or at the very least almost-adults.

If you want to make moral claims, at least back them up with something other than "omg so emberressing 2 haev 2 ask folkz 4 car". Hell, I'm happy I started having sex at 16. I still have sex in the room where my partner grew up, quiet sex, sneaky sex. I don't find it at all embarrassing because I'm in the same situation, and frankly don't care.

Definitely.

In follow up as far as kissing goes. That 45 year old i had sex with, was one of if not the worst kisser i've ever had in my entire life. Definitely one of those random porno eat your face off "kissers." Needless to say after about 20 seconds of that i never attempted to kiss her again.

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Gross, I've somewhat recently(a year and a half..) experienced a girl who was like that...what a godamn turnoff.

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I'm 17 and I haven't had sex yet. I have a really poor social life so I know barely any girls. I have had 2 girlfriends in the past, the last ended 2 whole years ago. We didn't do much, but we did a bit... Including kissing, and even phone sex (which was awkward).

Anyway, what i'm most worried about is that i'll miss out on fucking a virgin. Ok, you guys are saying "vrgins suk", but I still just want to do a chick first. Since I know barely any chicks, and many are having sex at this age, I'm worried I'll miss out. Goddamnit and I probably will. Fucking a virigin means a lot to me, but I'm not gonna go to extreme measures or do something I'll regret... It has to come nicely, with a decent chick.



A thing that is so odd to me right now is relationships. I can understand family love, but love (or "like") between two people my age seems fucking odd. I guess this is because my last relationship was so long ago, but i've tried to "like" and "go for" some chicks since then, getting rejected or fucking up, lowering my self esteem even more. I just don't think I'll be able to "like" a chick... it seems so fucking odd, and there's always doubt on their side, fucking you up. Sucks.

I've ruined two virgins. It was awesome as long as you do the thrusting..hence, masturbating with another body.

And godamnit, I need sex..I haven't been laid since early December. Godamn ex quit having sex with me. WHAT A BITCH.

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I don't think I'll ever had sex, be it by choice or by the fact that I'm completely resistable.

WARNING; DISTURBING IMAGES WILL COME TO MIND!

Every time I get done masturbating, that feeling of ecstacy just seems empty after doing it. Granted sex is probably better, but it can't be so great that it's worth dreading over for the rest of your life.

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sex will leave you gutted and hollow the first time YOU do it, ill bet

Shit don't sweat it man, i had a pretty bad social at one time in my life. I actually did it by choice kind of withdrew from society. I mean its not like every girl your age is having sex at this momment, i remeber the virgin i screwed was like a jr in high school when i got ahold of it. Really fucking a virgin is just a time consuming process that takes weeks to break her in. Also to the chick it looks extremely painful.

Also just take rejection with pride man, its no big deal. I mean your getting turned down by 1 chick out of like the billion on earth. If i felt bad when i got turned down by a chick here and there i would be one depressed fucker....I happen to attempt to go for every chick who is hot and try my luck. Actually you just begin to take it as part of the game, some reject-some don't, some drop panties in the first week-some not in the first year. I mean alot of people take rejection from one girl as rejection from all girls. Lots of chicks have way way different interest than their friends in what they want in a guy. Keep trying bro shes out there...

Be happy you havent had sex yet you can actually talk to a chick without thinking about screwing her while shes telling you how her day has gone....

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Look how getting fucked in the ass left you here lately....and theres your answer.

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ok update on my situation


I asked a kid who brought it up what the problem was and he said its not the age its the fact that shes not in high school.It looks bad for you.I responded by saying yeah it looks bad for me i guess then why the fuck does it affect you?Fuckin moron i go to a small ass rural school where everyone talks shit about the stupidest things.Its fucking annoying.


Also when did this turn into a topic assuming i was only interested in fucking her? I was asking for some decent advice from metalheads and i got some wierd, awkward discussion about CTL masturbating?

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haha +1.

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It's highschool. People are going to talk shit about dumb things regardless of where it is or who is in it.

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Hah. Yeah.

You will learn a thing or two about "women" one of these days.

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No thats called life. Moreso in high school but its not that much different outside of highschool. Although the further you get away from it the less that happens. Its the girls turning into women thing. Women are nice, girls fucking blow. I'm not sure what point girls stop acting like girls and become women, but apparently it takes one long fucking time.

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Didn't read the thread.

BUT THIS IS THE WORST FUCKING PLACE TO ASK FOR ADVICE ABOUT GIRLS!!!

GRLLZ, SHOW TEH PI$$ FL@PZ.

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Could take forever, tm. There's no guarantee anybody will grow into an adult.

There are probably comparably bad places to ask about girls, Eddy. But there's probably nowhere worse, yeah.

Everybody else: since we're already well off topic, let's not go further by discussing the suspension here. PM the principals involved if you're concerned, or bring it up in the feedback forum, or something. There are avenues for this, but they're not this thread.

Even though that advice wasn't for me, I'll take it all into consideration.
I've only asked one chick out and i'm 16. Most of my relationships were because the female asked me out. Pretty lame, eh. The good thing is that I don't care about relationships anymore. I relized that they consume far to much time. You could be studing, playing games, or just any activitie instead of talking to a girl on the phone or spending time with them. Whats the point, seriously? Put hours and weeks and maybe years and months into them. Get attached and possible fall in love. What is the fun in that

You know, playing games feels like a waste if you could've gotten laid instead.

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Oh yeah man, getting laid is what life is all about. Virgins' R t3h l00zeR(s), right.

What does getting laid do. Maybe it raises your pride, confidence, and self esstem. Is there any thing else it helps?

Beeing in love is the point. Judging by your post you haven't really been in love yet, right?

Love is something to die for. It's not just about getting laid.

Yup, the local pub with the losers that belong with the furniture is just as bad

But at least the beer is real over there. Shame about the people though.

You're correct, there have been times where I felt as if I loved some one but my feelings left quickly. But from what most people say it is all about the sex.

And the people you hang out with are how old?

It really depends on the mindset as well, trust me, it really does change over the years.

If you're truely madly deeply in love, the feelings won't leave. Not even if you want them to leave. Then you just need to make it work.
I've had quite a few girlsfriends but I've only been in love twice. With my ex and with my current girlfriend. Took me ages to get over my ex, even though we both decided it was better to move on.

EDIT: Jezus, I sound old now. Sorry for sounding like your dad or something.

I tried to write a reply, started over, tried again, posted, and deleted it.
It's kinda hard to explain.

Offcoarse sex ain't the most important aspect of life. I'm not arguing you should go have t3h sexx with the first random boobed person you meet.

And I'd much rather be in bed with a attractive love intrest than play GTA for hours.

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And there is a difference between sex for sex and sex with somebody you enjoy and love.

If you haven't already looked at "lasting" relationships you can already assume there must be something other than sex that keeps most people together. This only seems logical. There are all sorts of factors for all sorts of different people although.

PST: A sad fact about it. Although it would be a little naive to think that at least an overwhelming majority of people "grow up" and are at least possible and decient companions.

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Na not really man your 16...even tho i lost my virginity at like 14. I had a buddy who didnt lose his untill like he was 19 man. I mean people have different situations at different times. Well asking chicks out i mean if you like a chick grow some balls for a momment in life and ask her out, i mean rejections not going to turn around and stab you right in the fucking kidney is it now? You'll live to ask another girl out it least you want go the rest of your life writing bullshit poems about a girl you never got and saw every fucking day while you were writing the poems because you didnt grow balls and ask her out.

Basically man fucking enjoy life really, dont let being ashamed, scared, and shy hold you back from any fucking thing.....i mean really its not like the shits gonna matter people will just relize your having a fucking blast while there wasting life worried about other peoples opioins.

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Maybe so, but peer pressure and a friendly surrounding can be pretty important....

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Nah don't even attempt to downplay what you know to be true.

Other peoples opinions ARE important. Maybe shouldn't let ONE individuals opinion hold as much impact as it quite often does, but as being community creatures as we are, image plays a very substantial role in ones wellbeing.

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This is true. And especially true when you're a teenager.

By the way 'I'm 16 and I realize that I'd rather play games than have a relationship' is so funny in so many ways that I can only hope you'll recognize them when you get older.

That was my whole point.

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And that's what I mean...What I may know to be true and what actually happens can be different outcomes. We all say that it is improtant to live your own life, but getting out into the world during the awkward stage, a person with less self-esteem might question his own thoughts of it....reputation that is.

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TADA!!!!! Granted when i said what i said i didn't mean for it to fold into a nice neat little package proving my point, which it most certainly did.

And hey, whats wrong with video games!!!
Granted you gotta balance both aspects of pleasure, until they make that game where you have sex and it feels like "the real fuckin' pus yo" i'll stick with the both of em.

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I'd have to agree that kinky sex is good sometimes. But I still stand by my first reasoning; I just think age is a huge determining factor in which I believe the general populaion (as a statistical mean score) of teenagers are almost required to do things perverted and arrogant relating to everything.

Where the fuck is that Afarewelltokings? He's not debating here anymore....

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I wonder why.

His question was answered 20 times on the first page.

The rest is some bullshit he didn't ask for.

Well, this is metaltabs

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Nothing wrong with video games so long as you realize that they're just video games. The problem is that nobody does.

Well that too is debateable. (not that they ARE video games, but the impact and possibly the neccesity of them to some people)

For instance with me with games where I can do "whatever i want to do" (within reasons) such as Oblivion, The sims 2 and games like that, i have the feeling of escape and being able to truly interact and live in a world that will (in some ways sadly) never exist.

But obviously with your statement you are refering to the need for removal from them to engage in ones day to day requirements and obligations, which too is a neccessity because without that, there is no chance for "escape." (via video games anyways)

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I'm just saying that when you're willing to piss off your real-life friends because you're busy weaving wallets for your WoW friends, or when you kill yourself because somebody on Everquest stole your gold stash, then you really shouldn't be allowed to play video games anyway. If your escapism takes over your life, you're fucked and need the console/computer taken away.

That's impossible, there are only 19 replies on the first page.

Agreed.

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well me and the girl have decided to keep the relationship private until the summer.I guess people were giving her shit cuz im so old.Its pretty gay but i still like her alot so im gonna stick with her as long as i can.Now you guys can go back to discussin video games.....

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You'll learn. Regardless of what you do you will learn from it and learn how things "should go" thats part of growing up and going through the whole "i have a girlfriend for the first time" phase. I would say that having to keep a relationship "private" just invites more problems and that if you're not willing to have a relationship open enough for people to know about its probably not worth having. That or what seems in your case, the 2 of you (being young) don't have enough balls to stand up for yourselves, so you attempt to circumnavigate the problem and it will just bring more problems.

Besides how "private" is anyones lives in highschool? Its almost impossible to have those in the same sentence.

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It's a lot easier to date a chick with a greater age interval from you after or during the college years.

...stating the obvious...

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TMfreak you had a lot of good points.It makes her happier by being private so thats what im gonna do.

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