Please excuse my total self-aggrandisement in this thread.

Many of you know I used to be involved in the wonderful sport of kickboxing. Its many applications kept me from being a fat cunt. However, without it, and with the gym sessions sliding further and further into obscurity, I am becoming...

...A FAT CUNT!

Today, I started to diet. New diet, new regime... It will be hard. Because of the way I have chosen to do it. Diets I can handle - easy. However I am basically living on oil and protein for the next 2 months. I aim to lose somewhere between 15-20lbs.

This means no cereal, no bread, no toast, no mayonnaise, no soft drinks, no fruit, no fruit juice, no tomato sauce, no cordial, no chocolate, no chips, no fries, no burgers, no sugar in my coffee, no noodles, no laksa... AND NO BEER. I am left with cheese, beef, ham, cream and chops if I want to eat whole food. But I won't be. I will largely be eating raw flax oil and protein powders.

To put it bluntly, it sucks. But I suck more than it does, so I deserve it. Please feel free to encourage me, or alternatively to call me a fat cunt. Which would be true right now.



If you don't care at all about this, don't fucking post here.

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I cannot see the reson. What motivated you to the point of wanting to become a fat cunt?

GO!!! SLIM SANE GO!!!!

DON'T GIVE UP OR ELSE....

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sorry, but dont oil and proteins make you gain "fat"(as opposed to getting muscle fibre)?

and right now i'm trying to gain weight. i hope to gain 20lbs within 3 months. any tips?

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Arg. It's called a ketogenic diet. Go look it up then ask me any questions you got beyond that.

You have to tell me what you're already doing before I can tell you how to gain weight.

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WTF?
How will you stand it? How will you live 2 months with a "hungry feeling" in your stomach? Isn't it easier to live some months longer eating healthy food, than to put all that synthetic proteins into you?

Wel, it's your life.
Go, saney, go!!!

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Yeah good luck with it. *Takes a bite out of a big fat cheese burger*

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i'm eating fairly normally, maybe more(3 ham sandwiches for lunch, every day). i lift weights 3 times a week for an hour and a half, and occasionally(once a month?) i'll run 3km. oh ya, i'm 173lbs right now. 2 weeks ago i was 179lbs.

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Yeah, my P.e teacher says it better to gain weight in muscle not fat.

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FAT CUNT !!!


jut kiddin dude ... I know is easy to gain weight but is fuckin hard to lose weight ...so I wish you luck.

what are you talking about??? i could lose weight by eating 3 square meals and daily chores!!! but for me to gain weight, i dont know how

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yeah he's true, but i am special

I can't get weight on, I just shit everything out the same day, and I only weigh 60 kg's, so im pretty thin, except my arms and shoulders I guess, it's pretty weird, but I would like to be a bit fatter

anyways, fbs, it's just what you think of it, if you don't feel happy with yourself, lose some weight, if you don't care, well fuck it then!

I like you the way you are

kiss ass dude
lol

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MAYBE IF YOU SMOKE CIGARETTE STOPPING IT WILL HELP ALOT (FOR YOUR HEALTH
AND FOR GAINING WEIGHT) YOU'LL START TO EAT MORE THAN USUAL.

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My fault...what'd I do?

I must give credit where credit is due though, James. You really helped me with motivation and such, and it was actually your idea for me to cut out carbohydrates instead of calories, and on top of putting on a good amount of muscle, I'm also roughly 65 lbs. lighter than I was about a year ago. I'm 6'0" , 203 if anyone's wondering, and there are lots of people I should thank for helping me with that, and you're one of them...

Considering the way that I lost weight, if you stick to that diet really hardcore, you'll probably lose it in faster than two months, I know I would have, but I have weaknesses called hot wings, pizza, and beer

Best of luck to ya man, let us know how it's comin along periodically.

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I need to lose weight too.. I'm a frickin' fat ass.. I'm about 6' and weigh probably 350 lbs.. I've tried alot of shit.. but it never seems to work.. I do really good for a few months I work out eat the right shit.. and nothing goes right so I get discouraged and stop.. another problem I have is I can't have any herbal anything.. My kidneys freak out. I get like a kidney stone every few months as it is.. I don't need to have any more.. Any ideas?

C'MON DONT GIVE UP IT WON'T DISSAPEAR SUDDENLY
DRINK ALOT OF WATER GET STEAM BATH
CUT OFF COCA COLA

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What "right shit" are you eating? And how were you working out?

Actually, if you have MSN, AIM, or ICQ find me on there, it'd be easier to talk about it.

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I would call you a FAT CUNT just to annoy you, but that wouldn't be fair because i am also on the same boat as you......slowly becomming a FAT CUNT.

Maybe this will inspire me to do like you......or maybe just eat less cheeseburgers.

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i eat bad:
food that consists of a lot of fat, salts, and sugars
but a lot of water,
i lift weights almost every day, 'bout 1-2 hours,
i'm still scrony, and i weigh 130lbs. i am badly
out of shape. i want to gain weight
and i've had some input by some body building friends
that eating protiens before bed is all you need to gain......
obviouslty, though, i would have to lift more.

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no cereal!?!?!?!?!?

damn that sucks...........

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haha man I honestly gotta say I can't feel your pain. I friggin eat like a pig, like weights every other day, and do I get the bulk I want? ha, no, all I've got is good definition and a 34, 28, 34 hourglass friggen figure. I can't fuckin break 125 it's pissin me off. Anyone else ever notice how there are so many weight loss programs and very few weight gain programs out there, like on tv and stuff?

Cheers,
xx

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Well put it into perspective, the majority of Americans are overweight, and usually most people that will watch those commercials on tv aren't very active in trying to gain weight and lift and all that.

I know there are exceptions, so don't start bitching at me, but that's about the norm...

Haha, I do n't even remember when I weighed 125 lbs.

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Eat lots of protein and keep working out, you'll put on some weight.

My buddy did that for 6 months and went from 130 pounds to 180 pounds in half a year.......mostly all muscle (with a little fat). Another guy i know probably put on 80 pounds in 8 months......his arms are fucking enormous now.

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fbs, would eating a daily bowl of rice for dinner(along with vegs and meat) help you lose weight? thats basically what i eat for dinner, and i'm losing weight.

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god man i'll switch u bodies....


i eat so fucking much yet...

im 15 and im 5'1, 82 pounds

sad huh....

damn i wanna grow and i eat tons too

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oh my god!!!
my 4 year old sister is 45lbs!!!! i'm 16, 5'9, 175lbs. and yet i'm of an average build: 33, 30, 35

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what nationality are you? its strang because the way things go

this isnt stereotype but

negro= bigger, muscular, and all around just "bigger"

caucasian= average size, average build

asian = usually smaller

note this isnt a stereotype im just saying....im not even asian and im small as fuck

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aint it funny how i'm asian and damn proud too!

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oh i'm sorry fbs, backt o your original thing. sorry

faceguy, continue this in RTT

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ok! hehe i'll bring it up

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damn right you will, quit tryin to hijack the fat cunt's thread.

good fucking god, fuckface, hey now i can say o¿o, thank for the pm...
yeah well, fuck dude, you only 82 pounds and 5'1 at 15, i sooo
want to see you fall down the stairs... lucky me, i gained
SOME height over the past 2-3 years, im 17, 5'10,....you are small.....

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5'10" is still rather small.

But 5'1" is miniscule.

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Yeah. Fat cunts have feelings too.

Day 2 of diet - resisting everything easy. Some unspeakable cunt brought donuts to class & handed them out. I think I haven't forgotten how to do this...

"Inside every fat cunt is a thin cunt yelling to get out"

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fbs, would eating a daily bowl of rice for dinner(along with vegs and meat) help you lose weight? thats basically what i eat for dinner, and i'm losing weight.

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That's super-fuck-all calories. That's a starvation diet for me.

Hard question to answer. Your body may be in serious calorie-sparing mode, so I imagine the weight loss will dry up after a while.

It's a shitty way to do it, but you'll lose weight.

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THE DIETING MANIFESTO, by www.naafa.org - the Fat Cunt Society
My comments in bold

The term "diet" within this policy refers exclusively to weight reduction diets. "Dieting" is defined as any attempt to achieve or maintain lower body weight by intentionally limiting or manipulating the amount or type of food intake. Weight reduction diets include medically supervised diets; self-administered diets; commercial diet organizations and centers; weight-loss support groups or behavior modification programs; "fad" diets; "sensible, well-balanced" diets; in-hospital fasts; very-low-calorie diets (VLCDs); prepackaged food plans; and diets supplemented by drugs or artificial food products or supplements.

"Dieting" does not refer to attempts to lower fat sugar, salt, or cholesterol intake, increase fiber intake, exercise or pursue a medically mandated nutritional regimen prescribed for specific medical conditions.

True.

Weight-loss diets have long been promoted as a permanent cure for "obesity," although they rarely produce long-lasting or permanent results.

Horsehit.

According to existing medical research, fewer than five percent of all dieters succeed in losing a significant amount of weight and maintaining that weight loss over a five-year period. Ninety percent of all dieters regain some or all of the weight originally lost and at least one-third gain more.

90% of nutritional information is absolute bullshit. The cabbage soup diet won’t cut it I’m afraid. Neither will any other crappy diet.

In recent years, an increasing body of research has substantiated this diet failure rate and acknowledged genetic and physiological factors in the determination of body size.


Although these statistics apply to all types of diets, even those considered "sensible," physicians continue to prescribe weight-loss diets as a viable treatment for fat patients; and researchers, the media, and the diet industry continue to urge fat people to resist their body's natural predisposition and struggle harder to lose weight. As diet failure rates become widely publicized, some "experts" pretend to abandon "dieting" and encourage their clients to "just eat less and exercise more."

They are morons. Dieting is easy and any decent physician should be able to set one.

Promoting diets and diet products is a major industry in the United States. According to Marketdata Enterprises, the annual revenue for the diet industry was over $30 billion dollars in 1990. This figure includes money spent on diet centers and programs, group and individual weight-loss, diet camps, prepackaged foods; over-the-counter and prescription diet drugs; weight-loss books and magazines; and physicians, nurses, nutritionists, and other health professionals specializing in weight-loss (total 1990 revenue - $8 billion); commercial and residential exercise clubs with weight-loss programs (total 1990 revenue - $8 billion); and sugar-free, fat-free, and reduced calorie ("lite") food products, imitation fats and sugar substitutes (total 1990 revenue - $14 billion).

That’s a lot of money. It’s an industry, part of which tells the right stories. God knows what was spent on keeping plaque out of your arteries, bypassing your hearts, liposuctioning your asses, subsidising your drugs for weight-loss and hauling your asses out car wrecks.

The diet industry's advertising and marketing strategy is based on the creation and perpetuation of fear, biases, and stereotypes. Fat people are portrayed as unhealthy, unattractive, asexual, weak-willed, lazy, and gluttonous. Weight loss or a thin figure are equated with virtue, health, and success. Failure to participate in dieting or lack of success in losing weight are blamed on a lack of willpower or determination and a lack or moral values. Fat people are taught to feel guilty and blame themselves for the failures of weight-loss programs, and to expect and accept rejection, mistreatment, and discrimination regarding their weight. This negative media campaign has a devastating impact on millions of fat people. These messages lower fat people's self-esteem and foster discontent, self-doubt, and self-hatred, especially during the weight regain state of the dieting "yo-yo" cycle.

Fat people are not part of todays aesthetic. Live with it, tubby. Fat people should be fed correct nutritional information. The industry is sick, peddling lies to the hopeful. The SCIENCE and the REALITY of weight loss, are not part of the industry.


Diet promoters also emphasize dieting's supposed health benefits and minimize risks related to dieting. People of all sizes are misled about the extent and severity of the health risks associated with being fat and are told that being thin is the only way to good health, and that dieting makes people thin. Many health problems traditionally attributed to "obesity," such as high blood pressure, heart problems, high cholesterol, and gallbladder problems, are often caused by the dieting process itself. Recent studies indicate that repeated "yo-yo" dieting may actually reduce one's life span rather than increase longevity.

The dieting info you have is fucked, flawed, and fallacious. I’m sure it causes many problems.


Currently there are very few controls or regulations to inform and protect the dieting consumer. Weight loss "success" is only vaguely defined using short-term results, and weight loss "failure is always blamed on the consumer, and health risks are not disclosed. The few regulations that do exist are rarely, or at most, loosely enforced.

Fucking A right. Which means what, that all the information is wrong or there are just irresponsible people in the industry? If you approached the problem the right way, you wouldn't have been fooled. Feeble people.

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last night i was insomniac enough to workout on the bike/treadmill
at 2 am. for about ten minutes. and man was i stiff

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goodlord... 82 pounds? Im 15 and im 125 which is actually alittle to skinny, im about 5'11

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i'm thinking grains and vegetables would help. because they're mostly fibre and water. and since the human body doesnt digest fiber, it could fill you up, keep you healthy and help you lose weight. trust me, i've been eating rice at least once a day for 15 years.

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Weijia, you're a groin. Say it with me - "I am a groin".

Grains are ALL carbohydrates. They're the main things I'm not eating right now. And very few vegetables have negligent amounts of carbs. And I'm eating 40g of fibre a day.

I went to an Indian restaurant tonight. Managed to resist mint yoghurt, naan bread, pappadums, basmati rice, onion bhaje and cucumber raita. Ate only curry, and sparingly at that. Drank water. Felt like such a faggot.

Got home, and tested my piss - I'm still in ketosis. Let's hear it for me! I resisted an entire Indian banquet. GOOOOOOOOOAL! Fat Cuntism 0, f_b_s 1.

Oh, and I see a lot of people are voting that I'll stay fat. You're all unspeakable fuckwads and I hate you. Only one of you actually voted that I'd lose weight. Cunts.

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i'm a groin

but how do i gain wieght?

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rice fucking rules!

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lol f_b_s i voted u would go skinny...i was the first

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Gutted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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STOP EATING RICE AND EAT MEAT AND PROTEIN ONLY!!!!!!!

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you know how much meat i eat!?!??!?!?

2 pounds of ham a week for lunch. and thats only 5 days a week.
plus dinner, thats a shit load of food there.

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Son (I can call you son can't I?) it's a simple equation. Calories in versus calories out.

Your maintenance calories are around 175 * 14 which is 2450Kcal per day.

You want to gain weight?

1) Eat 3000kCal a day
2) Space out your meals into 6, 500kCal per meal
3) Go to the gym NO MORE THAN THREE times a week
4) Learn how to do a real workout and not sissy pansy shit
5) Avoid unnecessary aerobic exercise
6) Make sure there's at least 175g of protein in those calories

Anyway, ham is shitty meat. I only eat it because it's good raw, and my diet right now is very, very restrictive. Eat steak, chicken, fish, all the 'pure' meats. If you can get duck, pidgeon, crocodile, pheasant or quail, they're all excellent meats. And no I'm not joking.

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Good. I like you. But you weren't first. I was first

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i just had a terioque dinner(sp?)
it contained 20g of protein, 2.5g of saturated fat
and 75g of carbohydrates
it was good.

pop tarts have 3g of protein.
which is my nightly snack before bed,
along with some doritos, and a cerry coke.

i eat a lot of junk, but i work out a little every day
the past week or so.

i lost 5lbs this week.

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ok, i'll take your advice, but a few things
1) wouldnt more smaller meals help lose weight, whereas a few big meals help gain?

2) quail eggs. i heard each one is the equivilant in nutrients to a normal chicken egg, despite the fact they are tiny. is this true? if it is, it may help you.

3)meat. lean or fatty?

4) a real workout? whats that mean?

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If you want to gain weight, you should eat about 1 gram of protein for every pound that you weight each day.

Good sources of protein are: milk, meats, nuts (peanuts, almonds...whatever), protein bars.

A 2L carton of skim milk has about 70-72 grams of protein.....drink 2L of milk each day and you just gotta get the extra 100 grams elsewhere.

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1) No. Regular feedings keep your muscles continually supplied. Unless you're trying to grow your gut, split your meals.

2) Quail eggs? Wouldn't bother. Eat them, don't eat them, doesn't matter. Just eat.

3) At your age, bordering on irrelevant, you crazy sack of hormones you. I'd stick to mostly lean though.

4) *drill instructor tone* I mean you fucking pick some real exercises and you lift till your hands bleed, you fucking disgusting little worm!

Or not.

You need to use these:
* Squat
* Deadlift
* Hack squat
* Dips
* Chins
* Close grip bench press
* Push press
* Upright or T-Bar rows

And when you're good:
* Power clean
* Hang clean
* Overhead squat
* Snatch

I don't have time to explain what they all are. Find a decent fitness website, find them, learn them.

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subway...become a "jared".....'nuff said...eat subway...


lol

actually subways sweet onion chicken terriyaki is the best thing to hit this earth.....really healthy too i bet u could majorly slim up by eating only those...and im serious

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the last time i drank milk was probably like 1 year ago...

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ok, i know what most of those are. i'll list my routine out if i can figure out the names.

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Nutrition advice for fags.

Nutrition:

1) Eat a dead animal
2) Lift a heavy thing
3) Repeat

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i can agree with that
indian food rules. it's all pretty damn unhealthy too, many older people get heart problems from it.

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End of week one.

Down to 78 kilos.

You people who said I'd stay fat are losing your money.

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i hope it makes you happy knowing that i'm 80 kilos, yet still trying to gain weight

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I just voted that you'd stay fat because I knew you'd bitch about it

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what is the conversion from kilos to lbs. i have no
idea what 80kilos are.

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80 kilos is almost exactly 176.211 lbs.

i'm almost exactly 80 kilos. my weight jumps around quite a bit

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yeah maybe,it was just a link that I found ,nothing more.

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Pants fell off me today. Must be working.

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NEKKIDNESS! YAY!

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hehe, i'm reminded of that one Simpsons episode where Homer quits drinking for a while, and he's like, "i'm thinking losing weight" when he's walking to his bed, and his pants are falling off while he's walking, haha that was funny.
yeah

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alright, heres my routine. well, as much as i can remember of it. also, some i dont know the names to.
for most, i do 3 sets, first one with 12 reps, 2nd with 8, 3rd with 6.
and the weights are in pounds
i'm 172lbs(75kg), 5"8.6'(175.5cm)

warmup: 5 minutes on bike
pull downs (i think, they're like chin ups, but sitting down): 160,170,180
calf raises: 225, 240, 255
pec-deck: 72, 75, 77( i think)
tricep pull downs: 160, 170, 180
horizontal bench press: 170 x15, 180 x12, 190 x10
tricep pull ups( not too sure if thats the name): 15 x20, 20 x15, 25 x10
straight arm lifts( wrong name, but it best describes it): 12 x 15, 15 x 10, 20 x 8
chest press(weight is for each hand): 60, 65, 70

thats basically it. should i modify it? is it too "wimpy"?

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You need to base it around a 'big' lift. Learn to squat. It's the best investment in beef you could make.

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He's right, it gets the most muscles involved and therefore releases the most tesosterone and therefore blah blah blah. Add the squat, and maybe the deadlift. But definitely the squat.

Hell I don't do either one, especially now that it's freezing balls cold outside, so I can't lift in my garage...

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whats a squat? is it when i have the bar on my shoulders and then i bend my knees?

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also 2 things
1) when someone says they bench ...say 220... what does that mean? is it 3 reps? 3 sets?

2) whats a good/respectable weight for bench press for me? i'm 16

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i heard you're supposed to start out with at least half your weight when you do big muscles

but dont listen to me....i'm the one 10 pounds underweight

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Typically they'd mean a single lift, not 3. Anyone who has their bench press numbers available on quote is a wanker anyway. It's not a very good lift for combat training or conditioning.

And there is no single "respectable" weight. Anyway, weight is a shit measurement of strength. The other day I saw a guy use 4 times as much weight as me squatting. Guess who was bigger? Me. So, why so much weight? Because he was a clueless clot and doing short sets of half-repetitions to prove he was a big man. Another faggot power-rack hero. If you use too much weight, you're either stupid or egotistical, take your pick.

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one?? thats it??? hmm... ok

well, i mean respectable as in a 170lb, 30 year old man who can only bench 100lbs isnt too respectable while compared to a 150lb, 20 year old who benches his own weight.

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FUCK respect. Let me put this in perspective for you, He-Man.

I couldn't bench my own weight to save my life. My arms are the unfortunate length of 6'9 while I'm only a barely-tall 6'1. This makes using them as upright levers especially hard, because it's impossible for my arms to stabilise the weight. Am I "not too respectable" now? You talk about respect like it's something you get from OTHER PEOPLE. Fuck other people. Lift your own weight and let respect go fuck itself.

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i was using the word loosely. but again what are squats?

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What do you weigh? Around 170 isn't it? Have you tried benching that, because it's really not that hard to...

I'm not saying it to try to put you down or anything, and I'm sure you know that, but after I got used to it, bench presses were rather easy.

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Yeah, but I think sane's overall point is this: fuck the bench press.

Squats are, to be simple for you, when you have the bar on your back and bend your knees, yes. Though you have to be a little more careful than that, or you'll end up injured/cunt. Oh yeah, and, in addition, shut the fuck up.

About 185. If I worked at it, I'm sure I could put up 185... but the bench press blows. Added to that, I'd probably get tendonitis from overloading my elbow joints - the arms thing is a pain in the ass at times.

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i think wally's right. whenever i stop working out for a while, then come back. i have to start at a lower weight and get used to the movements. if you tried benching the bar and just the bar and see how much you can do. it becomes a stamina exercice and it'll help you get used to it.

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Please don't give me gym advice.

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sorry about that.

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my routine:
50 outside curls (15lbs)
50 chest bench presses (40lbs)
50 inside curls (15lbs)
50 of that bar that you pull doun(whatever you call that) (15lbs)
and last time i did a horizontal bench, i pressed 125lbs.
and i only weigh about 135-140, i gained some weight...

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Whoa, what a busy thread! Who would have thought that so many metal phucks would be interested in Health and Fitness? I don't even bother trying to lift anymore, I just feel too ridiculous. I think it's better to get exercise doing things I actually enjoy (rock-climbing, swimming, surfing, motorcross). This way I don't feel like such a human gerbil.
And when it comes to losing weight, my regime is simple: Lots of caffine or guarana. Big run. Lots of small meals afterwards. Maybe this is fuct, but it seems to work for me.

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That'll work. Guarana is nice and shifty for the metabolism.

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well i'm up to 190, 200, 210 on horizontal bench. whats guarana?

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i weigh 140lbs now

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hey sane im not sure if you guys have a supplement down there called "XP2G". but if you do i highly recomend it. its a thermo. supplement and damn good. that and wey factor are the only 2 things i take now. ive dropped about 10 lbs. so far, and my over strength is still increasing. im on a diet thats not as highly complex of yours. it basicly consists of 6 meals a day spred out 2-3 hours in between. for my weight (170) i need to take in about 35 grams a protien with each one, and about 25 carbs. but no carbs after my 5:30 workout. usually i try to take around 45 grams of protien with each though in case im ever somewhere where i cant get a sufficiant ammout i wont go into a protien depleation. but anyway i hope like hell your sticking with if dude. after all you were the one motivating me all those posts ago back at atmetal!

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we wanna be ripped like Zakk Wylde

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So how's that goin anyway mein herr? Are you still a fat cunt? I know I couldn't stick to a diet like that. I live for food and my will is so weak. Sure I would be a skinny cunt, but I would be a miserable skinny cunt.



Whoops, that was an ignorant thing to say. And even contradictory to one of my basic beliefs: You can't categorise people, even by gender. Everyone is an individual.
Anyway, I lied. I still do lift weights. But I don't like to admit it. Probably none of youse care. But I just didn't want anyone to think I was dissin people who go to the gym or whatever. I too am a victim of the fastidious desire for self-improvement. It's good to be alive, but I fucken despise the fact that I am human. Eeeeeeeeeeeeee! It makes as much sense as anything.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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improving ones image is one thing, i do it to improve my fitness.

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You know, I still like your signature.

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thank you, but credit goes to you for writing the original

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No need to suck the fat cunt's ass, weijia. now shut the fuck up.

alllriiiight!!

hey, by the way, since thanksgiving, i gained 5 lbs
go me!

i am sooo gonna get a job as a bouncer.

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Yeah... right. I didn't mention anything about image anyway.

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