2007-03-02, 11:07
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MXR M-108 10 band EQ
Just wondering whether anyone had one of these? I'm planning on running it through the FX loop so I can sculpt my sound a bit more. It has a Volume slider as well as a Gain slider. Anyone know how effective the gain slider is especially when run through the loop? Reason I'm asking is because I want to start using my Bad Monkey as a solo/volume boost in the loop as opposed to boosting the front end, so I need to replace that grind with something else. I know that I'll be able to naturally get a thicker and cruchier tone just by fiddling with the EQ on the MXR but since it has a gain level as well I want to use it
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2007-03-02, 14:12
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No man, OD pedals aren't meant to go in an FX loop, they're designed to hit the preamp tubes(works with SS too) hard, in the FX loop it won't sound too great if not horrible.
Just keep using your OD in front and get the EQ in the loop. The gain/volume level on EQ pedals is just a volume/line boost so it makes your signal stronger before the amp, or louder if its in the FX loop(but not stronger). Your OD will drive your amp's distortion much harder than any EQ pedal, just use the EQ in the FX loop with the volume/gain a bit higher for volume boosts.
No idea why it has seperate gain and volume though, they probably have the same effect.
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2007-03-02, 21:17
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Shit, ok so now I don't know how to get a volume boost for solo's, because the EQ I want on all the time and it won't give me any gain, so I then need the OD out front to drive the amp. hmmmm......
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2007-03-02, 21:37
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Could I ask something? If you put an GE-7 pedal in the guitar loop, you get a gain boost depending on the level, but does the eq controls do anything?
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2007-03-02, 22:38
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Umm the EQ controls cut or boost the frequencies you want of course.
Raising the EQ's volume/gain in the FX loop = raising the overall volume of the amp! Not as much as the master volume of course but you can make some HUGE changes in volumes just with the EQ pedal in the loop.
Just keep your OD on all the time for that extra grind, then stop your EQ with raised volume in your FX loop for a volume boost! There's nothing more to it.
People think gain = more distortion, which is true if we're talking about preamps, but when you're talking about a poweramp it means volume! Not distortion.
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2007-03-03, 06:59
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Umm the EQ controls cut or boost the frequencies you want of course.
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Sorry for the noob question. Although it seems to me that the eq section does more job after the distortion than before the distortion. It doesn't seem to cut or boost as much as it would after the dist. Why is that?
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2007-03-03, 07:37
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You mean the pedal in the EQ in the FX loop has less effect than it before the amp or using the amp's knobs? Probably, because you'd be changing the EQ after the preamp signal, which won't have such a huge effect(can if you do major adjustments.) Using it in front of the amp you're changing the actual frequency range of your guitar. You can make it sounds bassy, super middy, or thin etc.
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2007-03-03, 07:58
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So will it be more effective in front of the amp or in the loop? I always thought that an EQ was more effective in the loop..... Man this is kinda confusing. I might just buy it and try it in various places/ settings and I'm sure I'll probably find something that works.
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2007-03-03, 10:27
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Dude if you already have an OD in front of your amp, use your EQ in the loop! That's all there is to it.
Plus your OD has low and high freq. knobs, why would you want a 10 band eq in front of your amp too? Use the EQ in the loop.
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2007-03-03, 11:14
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Sorry man, It just seemed like in your last post you said to put the Eq in front of the amp. I always planned on running it in the loop I just need to work out how to boost my amp, shape the tone and get a solo boost, all from two pedals!. Like I said I'll just get it and mess around with various settings. I think I have GAS for pedals now, I also want a decent reverb and chorus........
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2007-03-03, 12:09
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Yeah exactly. Just keep the OD on all the time, and use the EQ for volume boosts + different EQing(generally more mids) for solos.
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