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2007-02-28, 01:31
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Busting Gutturals.
Hey, Before diving into something like "OMG HOW DO I DO THIZZ"
I'm gonna try to be as specific as possible; I'm not really new to the whole death metal, guttural, pig squealing thing, and I was good enough to be in a band. But see my problem is, I heard so much shit from different people on different techniques.
Can somebody give me pointers, or a good tutorial on how to bust gutturals?
I'm talking about, Circle of dead children/The partisan turbine/Devourment gutturals.
Help would me Majorly Appreciated.
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2007-02-28, 04:25
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2007-02-28, 07:36
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when will people get over gutterals
a) they are easy
b) they are boring
c) they are over done
d) they sound like shit anyway, its for peeps that cant do anything better.
thats all in my opinion obviously but im sick of hearing that fucken question, for christ sake get over gutterals already. [people in general not you]
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2007-02-28, 14:06
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2007-03-01, 16:34
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I'm quite sure gutturals were invented by this timid bedroom kid who didn't want to be overheard by his parents making silly noises in his bedroom.
Gutturals are for talentless fruits.
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2007-03-01, 19:52
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2007-03-02, 03:51
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I'm quite sure gutturals were invented by this timid bedroom kid who didn't want to be overheard by his parents making silly noises in his bedroom.
Gutturals are for talentless fruits.
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Gutterals were invetented because every death metal band do growls and some people actually try to make their music different to others instead of making there music sound exactly the same as every other deaeth metal band. nuff said
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2007-03-02, 05:58
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fuck you. gutterals are fucken completely over used, over hyped, over x over z and over y. they aren't hard, they aren't brutal, they're just gay.
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2007-03-02, 06:21
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I agree to an extent, Infinity. But there are many types of good, brutal music that would sound like shit without gutterals.
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2007-03-02, 06:27
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thats entirely true and i dont deny it.
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2007-03-02, 06:46
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Right, just the only problem is that a shitload of 13 year old kids start liking Job For A Cowboy, and end up making shitty music with their less-than-talented friends. It's easy to do, and easily accessable by alot of people, making it widely known. Then it's just repetive shitty music and dumb asses all over giving gutterals a bad name. In all that babble; I blame Job for a cowboy for ruining death metal. I'm gonna go have another drink.
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2007-03-02, 07:56
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fuck you. gutterals are fucken completely over used, over hyped, over x over z and over y. they aren't hard, they aren't brutal, they're just gay.
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Dude, if you dont agree with me, then dont abuse me you dickfuck. And sure all you people say gutterals are over used. Look at ur DM bands....Widely over used aswell! so its kinda hypocritical of u paying out gutteral/vomit vocals.
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2007-03-02, 08:04
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2007-03-02, 13:10
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Are Gutterals the burp type growl?
Give me a few bands that use the technique.
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2007-03-02, 14:48
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2007-03-02, 16:20
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That's kinda rich a brutal kid saying death growls are over-used. Especially when guttural-accompanied music has an even harder time being original in itself.
Gutturals came from a kid who wanted to go the deepest he could, trying to be more bone-headedly brutal than all the rest. And it takes away from brutality too. I mean, you got this huge dense riff coming at you at 280 bpm, then suddenly this quiet, vague little toilet noise enters. How satisfying...
I really don't pay attention to originality of vocals, only talent and perhaps tone and arrangement. I mean: clean vocals? Done for centuries, perhaps millennia. Are you honestly going to stand and say they were all being un-original fags?
Another problem with many brutal guys is that they lose perspective of things...
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2007-03-03, 19:54
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Pig squealing is stupid and gutturals are over done and boring.
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2007-03-03, 19:57
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I blame Job for a cowboy for ruining death metal
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2007-03-04, 16:05
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I bow in sheer reverence of this statement.
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I prostrate before the altar upon which it is inscribed!
I want to make an effort to get it back on track at some point in my life.
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2007-03-05, 03:24
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Gutterals are just the new trend. Just like back when growls started to become dominant over early Death Metal gruff vocals, and before that when gruff vocals became dominant over cleans. I personally feel they do have their place, but ideally I like a vocalist with variety.
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2007-03-05, 13:18
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And it takes away from brutality too. I mean, you got this huge dense riff coming at you at 280 bpm, then suddenly this quiet, vague little toilet noise enters. How satisfying...
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Hahaha! Nice.
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2007-03-05, 17:57
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Gutterals are just the new trend. Just like back when growls started to become dominant over early Death Metal gruff vocals, and before that when gruff vocals became dominant over cleans. I personally feel they do have their place, but ideally I like a vocalist with variety.
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Yeah, there are vocals to be recognised in a song too. If it's there, I'm gonna judge it. Although there are some bands who do sound good with a general monotone.
Some bands I think make realy clever use of vocal tones, such as Martyr.
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2007-03-08, 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Gutterals are just the new trend. Just like back when growls started to become dominant over early Death Metal gruff vocals, and before that when gruff vocals became dominant over cleans. I personally feel they do have their place, but ideally I like a vocalist with variety.
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I like that statement as you've said that you like a vocalist with variety... Me too !
I'm working on making my vocals varied, hopefully I'll get a good bit of experimenting done before we record in May so that my vocals are not boring or samey...
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