Apparently it was ordered with EMGs. I'd figure a guitar that nice would need a passive to let the wood tone come through. Why would someone put EMGs on a (i think a semi hollow body). Is it a jazz thing?

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A link would be nice.

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I think he's talking about this guitar.
Looks like a lovely axe, but the sight of active EMGs in a semi-hollow body make me cringe. What next, a Gibson ES-175 with a Floyd Rose?

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They probably like br00tal death metal.


Emgs in any guitar is senseless.

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Good fucking god! Why oh why?!

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Yes that's the link... must of had a brain fart to not post it.

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EMGs would spoil a nice piece of wood like that, such a shame...

hey man, where in NSW you live?

who me?

THat guitar doesnt look semi-hollow, nevertheless, emgs on a mahogony guitar is not a very good idea. I'm sure it doesnt sound too bad, but the 2400$ he is asking for is way to much for the same tone as a 400$ LTD.

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Tell that to Zakk wylde or anyone else with a LP/Eclipse and EMG's

ZW is a fathead.

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That says a whole lot about EMG's and Mahogany great........it doesn't really matter either, I can diss every death metal guitarist for all I care....

Congratulations.

So Zakk can use whatever impractical setup he wants, but Pat O Brien can't?
:doublestandards:


(not that I care for CC anyway).

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Obviously you didn't read anything after the Zakk Wylde, where I said "or anyone else"....also, how does having EMG's in a LP pose as "impractical"?

Well to buy a LP usually goes for the origional tone of humbuckers, (that and the comfortability, but mostly the tone). Thats the difference between a gibson LP and an Epiphone LP, and why the cost is so ridiculous (that and the name gibson, same reason why marshalls are so god damned expensive). But the wood that the LPs are made of sound amazing with the gibson humbuckers. EMGs do not pick up the tone of the wood, they isolate the string tone.It would virtually sound the same as playing through a plastic guitar.
So the impracticality is the 1200 CAD that you would spend on a Gibson LP, just to replace the majority of that money with new pickups to make the guitar sound the same as a 400 CAD esp LTD.
And if you want, i will tell that to anyone else who purchased an LP/Eclipse and replaced the pickups with EMGs, giggle, then burn the money in thier wallet, for it is the same general idea as sinking nearly 2 grand into a custom LP with emgs.

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Because uhh it belongs to them?

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I don't know where you get these ideas, but if you're telling me that EMG's don't utilize the tone of the wood, then u need hearing aids or something. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Duncans myself, but again, u need ur ears checked if you're telling me that a $200 pos would sound the same as a LP Custom both with EMG's in them. Let's tell all the companies that put EMG's in their guitars, that they're wasting money because it'll sound the same on any guitar. Have you ever also considered the fact that some people love the looks, feel, shape, reliability of a Les Paul, but then preferred the tone of EMG's?

I agree. I've used EMGs for years and they're not the same in every guitar. I think people just try to sound like they're know it alls or some shit by puking out the same old EMG hate. Granted I wouldn't put them in a Hamer like the one linked but they have their purpose.

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I'm not trying to argue with anyone. I don't know wtf this EMG's and "they sound the same in anything" bullshit is. Sure they're built differently from passives, but how the fuck do they sound the same in any guitar? I've tried an Eclipse, LP, Ibanez, King V, and other guitars loaded with EMG's and they all sounded different.

a)Yes, I mean you, my post was right below yours
b)How many other new people in the thread live in NSW.

Silly Australians.

I've ran 3 EMG-loaded guitars into the same amp with the same setting and the all sounded the same, that's the way EMG's roll. Granted it was a solid state amp, but it is still possible to make an audible difference. If the sound was different, you either had vastly different pickup heights, string gauge(and life), different tone/vol settings, weren't paying attention, etc. EMG's making all guitars sound virtually the same is a world-renown fact.

It won't make a squier sound like a Ran as the squier has virtually no sustain, but take any 200-300$ guitar and slap EMG's in it and you won't tell any difference in sound from a 1 grand guitar.

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I knew i wasnt bullshitting when i said that, thanks soeru

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I have EMGs in my Mahogany bodied custom (it does have a maple cap, but not a particularly thick one, it's for looks) and guess what, I like it.

Makes me happy and people can suck my dong if they don't like it.

But as for the original post, I think some toned down jazy passives would sound better in the Hamer.

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The fact that the strings interact with a bridge which then interacts with the body means that any pickup will represent those tonal/ sustain differences (well, depending on quality). It is the Strings after all that make the noise not the pickups. AFAIK EMG's are basically just 'boosted' right? Therefore it would make little difference, the same string noise goes into the pickup......

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No fucking shit it'd sound different with diff. pu heights, bridge, etc. Then I can say the same fucking thing for any other pickups, you put 'em in the same guitars w/ the same setups and amps and they'd all sound the same.

EMG's do come with their own tone, as any pickup does. The issue is that EMG's do not interact with the wood the way passive pickups do. Of course anything that affects sustain will affect tone, but for the most part EMG equipped guitars will have what I believe xdislexicx calls it "the guitar that has EMG's in it" sound.



Ummm, it has a giant F-hole and I can see inside the body.

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LOL, guitars with big gaping f-holes in them usually mean it's at least partially hollowed out.

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I know thats right. Why the hell does everyone think active pickups sound the same? Some guitars might play the same but they still have a major sound difference even if they have the same PUs.

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The difference from passive to passive or active to passive guitars is enormous, but guitars with all actives? Differences are virtually non existent.

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I disagree. I have noticed great differences.

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EMGs will show differences in different guitars, but not at all to the degree a passive would.

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lol good point ... Tamworth

back on topic ... the reason why EMG equiped guitars sound simmilar to oneanother is because of the active circuit which does change the tone a fuck load.

I was trying to convince the other guitarist in my band not to spend a bit more on his new guitar instead of buying a cheapish one and putting a EMG in the bridge. My main argument is that the wood would sound pretty shit, but then it wouldn't sound overly bad because of the EMG colouring the narutal tone of the guitar a shit load ... turns out some people like the sound of a shit guitar with a EMG in it.

That said I do like the sound of actives in mahogany guitars ... thick with an edge, if you know what I'm on about

Even if you're gonna use EMG's it's still a good idea to spend more on a guitar to just get overall good build quality and most importantly: FRETWORK. So long as it plays great and isn't falling apart due to poor build quality, even a low end basswood guitar is fine if you're slapping actives in it. But spending a shitload on a super nice all mahogany neckthru guitar with ebony fretboard just to slap actives in it is.... well, stupid, unless you like the sound of actives enough to warrant doing that.

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yeah very true, and the fact is EMGs are cheaper than some of the high end passives [Bare Knuckle Pickups etc] so it's easier and cheaper to get a agressive sound by dropping in EMGs. + sound and looks are more important to some people, as sad as that is.