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Old 2007-01-28, 17:37
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This is why Mayhem should not be on VH1

watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9W2e3vUSw

About 85% of the information on here is wrong.
Hellhammer is not the original member, Necrobutcher is.
Varg didn't kill Euro out of jealousy (i'm sure).
Mayhem is black metal, not death metal.
Euro didn't actually eat Dead's brain
And Norway is dark and cold most of the time! How much more metal could it get!? (not land of fairies and fjords)

Also, they left all the good stuff out, like Dead's obsession with death and church burning credits to Varg.

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Old 2007-01-28, 18:15
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fuck, and i thought vh1 were a totally creditable source of news. PARTICULARLY when it comes to obscure music!

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Old 2007-01-28, 18:19
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VH1 Classic rules. The 80s at 8 anyone?
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Old 2007-01-28, 20:24
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VH1 Classic rules. The 80s at 8 anyone?

yeah man that is great


about the video it is wrong if they went to the burzum website they could have learned why varg killed the other dude and they forgot the part about the photos for the album cover and the church burnings
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Old 2007-01-28, 21:16
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Don't make the mistake of recoiling from one bullshit version (VH1's, which is actually about as good as you can expect given what it is) to dig into the muff of another (Varg's). Self-serving liars, whether they're a small part of a media lullabye giant or a deluded homicidal pussy, are never the best source of information. Since most of the Mayhem stories come from these people, we should really doubt that we know what 'really' happened. Probably why it's all so fascinating.

In any case, this is very, very, very old news. I think I saw that show in a rerun two or three years ago, and I recall a very old forum post complaining that, during that same 'metal moments' countdown, and at some time following the Mayhem moment, somebody referred to Slayer as 'the most evil band in existence.' Which, I want to point out in retrospect, is a very gay thing to care about. And so is this.
 
Old 2007-01-28, 21:21
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Old 2007-01-28, 21:30
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watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9W2e3vUSw

About 85% of the information on here is wrong.
Hellhammer is not the original member, Necrobutcher is.
Varg didn't kill Euro out of jealousy (i'm sure).
Mayhem is black metal, not death metal.
Euro didn't actually eat Dead's brain
And Norway is dark and cold most of the time! How much more metal could it get!? (not land of fairies and fjords)

Also, they left all the good stuff out, like Dead's obsession with death and church burning credits to Varg.


Black metal wasnt a term back then, they were actually trendfollowers of Venom and Slayer, who, at the time, were considered death metal. They declared them selves as "black metal" (maybe after the song Black Metal by Venom?) in an interview when they were asked what kind of band they were... or something along those lines. So technically, in those days, they were considered death metal; and presently they are considered Black metal because their self declared name stuck.

And Varg testifies that he killed Euro over a death threat... they had a fight over money or sometihng, and euro was like "im guna kill him" so Varg did it first.
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Old 2007-01-28, 21:57
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If only this had happened in Metallica then Somekind of Monster might have been worth watching

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Old 2007-01-28, 22:10
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Varg killed Euro because he was seen as more "evil". It may not be accurate, but I believe it because Varg is as big of a dumb sack of shit to do something like that.
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Old 2007-01-28, 22:33
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a couple of you seem fuzzy on the topic of Varg and Euronymous. i am not a fan of Varg's music, but this story was a very great read. its quite long, but after reading it, i realized that the length was appropriate, and perhaps necessary, for getting the full story. Varg's dialogue is quite appealing too.

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a...m_story02.shtml
 
Old 2007-01-28, 22:39
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Don't make the mistake of recoiling from one bullshit version (VH1's, which is actually about as good as you can expect given what it is) to dig into the muff of another (Varg's). Self-serving liars, whether they're a small part of a media lullabye giant or a deluded homicidal pussy, are never the best source of information. Since most of the Mayhem stories come from these people, we should really doubt that we know what 'really' happened. Probably why it's all so fascinating.

In any case, this is very, very, very old news. I think I saw that show in a rerun two or three years ago, and I recall a very old forum post complaining that, during that same 'metal moments' countdown, and at some time following the Mayhem moment, somebody referred to Slayer as 'the most evil band in existence.' Which, I want to point out in retrospect, is a very gay thing to care about. And so is this.


I've never this seen this before because I don't watch VH1 a lot, but yeah, I'm sure this has been posted a few times, so... I'm not really trying to get into this whole controversy about Mayhem so idk why I even posted this. But I think that VH1 should have looked further into researching the band before putting this on their show. I guess that my point in posting this is that they just should have done a better job in presenting this. You are right. We'll never really know what happened. This is true because the one guy is dead and no one believes Varg anymore after changing the story multiple times. And that one person who asked why people are so shocked that the media mis-represents. Well, idk. Stuff just pisses us people off when they know that the truth isn't told fully. That's just how we are.

"But wait...There's more." That guy made me laugh. He's a goof.

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Old 2007-01-28, 22:45
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no one believes Varg anymore after changing the story multiple times.
"But wait...There's more."

where does he change the story? that quote doesnt really display a change in story, but rather an addition to it, considering that is an authentic quote.
 
Old 2007-01-28, 23:10
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where does he change the story? that quote doesnt really display a change in story, but rather an addition to it, considering that is an authentic quote.


What? Oh, that quote I put in was from the episode. If you watch it, there's this guy who says "but wait... there's more." I only put that in there because it's kind of funny. That's not what I meant by changing the story.
Varg on the other hand has added to the story a couple times. If you read interviews that occured like right after he was arrested, he said stuff about a contract and money. Not self defense. I read the story on the website, and it was interesting. That is were he said it was more out of self defense and added some detail. idk, like that one guy said, it's impossible to tell who's right and wrong.
 
Old 2007-01-28, 23:12
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Why can't anybody understand that he is clearly a disturbed bi-polar psychopathic freak? If he lived in Alabama he would be the sterotypical "white trash" from the trailer parks....fuckin' a...


What he was going through was a mix of anxiety and paranoia...the two things that drive people to the point of insanity. The fucker couldn't handle it like a man and went nuts...cause he's mental. That kind of shit happens all the time in Denver, Detroit, Compton, Brooklyn etc but people obsess over this story cause theres "black metal" involved.
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Old 2007-01-29, 00:25
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watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9W2e3vUSw

About 85% of the information on here is wrong.
Hellhammer is not the original member, Necrobutcher is.
Varg didn't kill Euro out of jealousy (i'm sure).
Mayhem is black metal, not death metal.
Euro didn't actually eat Dead's brain
And Norway is dark and cold most of the time! How much more metal could it get!? (not land of fairies and fjords)

Also, they left all the good stuff out, like Dead's obsession with death and church burning credits to Varg.


Agreed, Finland is the land of fairies.
 
Old 2007-01-29, 01:07
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but people obsess over this story cause theres "black metal" involved.

not really. i liked the story because it wasnt written by a fucking reporter. its not very often that you hear murder stories from the murderer. and if it is "very often" that you do, i dont know where those stories are located, and honestly, im not all that interested. the fact that he is involved in black metal is more of a cherry on top, but not necessarliy the key incentive. ever see that HBO special on interviewing that crazy ass "iceman" dude who killed countless people? i watched it more than once, because, like i said, its a hell of a lot more interesting when its coming from the killer.
 
Old 2007-01-29, 01:38
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Old 2007-01-29, 03:43
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not really. i liked the story because it wasnt written by a fucking reporter. its not very often that you hear murder stories from the murderer. and if it is "very often" that you do, i dont know where those stories are located, and honestly, im not all that interested. the fact that he is involved in black metal is more of a cherry on top, but not necessarliy the key incentive. ever see that HBO special on interviewing that crazy ass "iceman" dude who killed countless people? i watched it more than once, because, like i said, its a hell of a lot more interesting when its coming from the killer.


Tons of convicted murderers, serial killers especially, write tell alls and autobiographies detailing their murderous deeds. Iceman's story was slightly more unique than the average serial killer because of mob twists and how many of the people he killed were his own business associates and friends, yet more unique than the average mob hit man story because of how many innocent people he killed just for fun (although he doesn't talk about that on his TV interviews). In the end, nobody with any sense takes these books seriously because of the suspect nature of the biased murderer. This is even more evident in the case of Christian Vikernes, who not only can't seem to get his story straight, but also has a long history of bullshitting and generally acting batshit insane.

I'm pleasantly surprised this thread didn't turn as shitty as I assumed it would be when I clicked on it, and I'm going to honor that by closing this on a medium note before this turns into the typical black metal thread here.
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