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We lost our box tortuse for 5 days. She decided to migrate out of her sleeping blankets and search out a new place. I looked every place she could get for days and finally found her about 10 feet from her old hibernation under Mrs Soulinsane's vanity. She stays in our bed room for protection from the kids right now. I didn't think there was room under the vanity but Lulu found a way. I would have left her there but she does need water. I took her out, gave her water, she drank for 30 minutes, and I let her go again in the Master bed room. I worry about stressing her during hibernation. She seems fine for several days at a time, but I still worry I'm hurting her by offering water and food during this time. Thoughts?
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i don't know much of anything about tortoises but i would assume that her drinking for 30 minutes was a good thing. i'd keep water available to it at all times.
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He's still a bit under-skilled when it comes to killing. I've been stunning the mice so they won't retaliate, and the last one I fed to him he didn't kill at first...
A few minutes later it came too, and I re-introduced it to him; he promptly put the torture death squeeze on it and that was that...haha.
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We lost our box tortuse for 5 days. She decided to migrate out of her sleeping blankets and search out a new place. I looked every place she could get for days and finally found her about 10 feet from her old hibernation under Mrs Soulinsane's vanity. She stays in our bed room for protection from the kids right now. I didn't think there was room under the vanity but Lulu found a way. I would have left her there but she does need water. I took her out, gave her water, she drank for 30 minutes, and I let her go again in the Master bed room. I worry about stressing her during hibernation. She seems fine for several days at a time, but I still worry I'm hurting her by offering water and food during this time. Thoughts?
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http://exoticpets.about.com/gi/dyna...urtlesite.info/
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Yah, they are. Cool as all hell though. I don't see how people could be scared of a little snake (unless it is extremely venomous of course..)
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I'm going to feed mine today. Gonna try some pinky rats and see what he thinks...IF he eats them.
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sho nuff! looks great.
i'm glad my snake (or previous snakes) were never picky eaters..they all made the switch from live to frozen thawed food without any problem.
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I fed him two today...I think it may have stressed him a bit. His belly is HUGE!
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well, i heard from a specialist that many snakes doesnt care about frozen or alive food, Royal python does care tho, they might not like to get frozen food.
phillkilla, your snake is so beautiful, what is this one?
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He's a Columbian Red-Tail boa. I thought he may not like pre-killed prey, but I put it on some tongs and waved it in front of his face, and he struck it like it was still alive.
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well, i heard from a specialist that many snakes doesnt care about frozen or alive food, Royal python does care tho, they might not like to get frozen food.
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Certain individuals of Royal Pythons (Ball Pythons) are picky eaters and it may take some work to induce consumption of dead prey. Snakes under 6 months can be difficult in this way, so I usually try switching over around this point. When I get one as an adult, they are quite easy to switch over, even if they are used to live prey.
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I fed my beardie a pinky a couple of days ago. He seems to enjoy my company more when he is fed meat, lol.
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nice! i don't know the species or genus..but it's an orbweaver. nothing to worry about as far as venom goes. it's a member of the order Araneae which includes the Argiope genus. http://bugguide.net/node/view/1954 |
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alot of people feed pinkys to beardies when they are 6 months old and what not. one should never feed a pinky till they are a year ish.
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nice. you might want to get longer forceps hah. i guess if you haven't had a problem before, should be ok. especially with the food right in its face like that.
i was kinda expecting to see it constrict the prey since the mouse/rat was moving when it struck.
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Usually he does constrict it, but he hit it nose on so he just went with it. 
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insane that people just set them free after they grew too big!
small update, snake 'n spider are still going strong. Both eat like maniacs. The snake is awesome to observe when it gags down a pinky, it nevers stops facinating me
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I think about getting an Axolotl. Do anyone of you are familliar with this animal? I've read about them and it seems to be not that hard to keep. The only thing i didnt see its the price.
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there are insects, and arachnids, to come. just didn't want to post them all at once since there are so many..that's about halfway through the herpetarium.
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I is more serious..as in the animals face the possibility of extinction. II is not as bad off. they could get to the same situation as something close to extinction, but they still have larger numbers.
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a small update on my rose:
it eats like a beast!
I give it a cricket a day and its always on the move. yet my room stays around 70F-75F. still has not molted so i dont really know the sex of it.
all in all. i like it! docile as fuck, and adventurous.
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while my beardie is being an ass and refuses his crickets at the moment.
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how big is it in leg span again?
1 a day is more than enough food. i used to feed once a week..though sometimes i'd do 2 crickets per feeding. also usually tried to feed the smaller ones more frequently to get them to grow faster. when they are very young/small..they are more prone to dessication or other ailments that a larger, more established spider could withstand with ease.
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3-3.5 inches.
couldn't get an aprox. measurement, little prick kept its legs close when i tried to measure it.
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I'm not that big of a fan of people keeping crocodilians or large snakes, to tell you the truth. It's not that commited people can't pull it off, it's just that too many people who aren't really committed do it anyway, at the expense of the animal's health and, potentially, the well being of their household, neighbors, and pets.
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thanks. yea, i was informed that after posting on another forum. actually someone that works in that department at that zoo was the one to help out with naming some i didn't know..and correcting me on some i had wrong. here is what they posted.
"Hey great shots!! I always lurk here and never post but since I work in the herp building in St. Louis, I figured I'd help on the IDs that were left blank.
So the turtle is a McCord's box turtle (Cuora mccordi), the frog is Leptodactylus fallax, in the one with the large tortoise that you title 2 types there are actually 3: Aldabra tortoises, a Galapagos tortoise and huge yellow foot tortoises, the unidentified frogs that aren't labeled are Phyllomedusa bicolor, the one you labeled as radiated tortoises also has an Aldabra in there, the sunfish...not sure myself , and you switch the labels on the Eristicophis and the Vipera. Anyways hope this helps and really hope you enjoyed your visit!!!"
also..i mentioned i was going to go back with my tripod to take better pics one of these days before i leave and that i'd send them a message before hand. they replied by saying to do that and that there was much more to see..so i'm thinking i'll get a little behind the scenes peak/tour.
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Most species in those genera aren't dangerous to man. The general idea, it seems, is to look into their impact on an ecosystem in which they are not indigenous. This has the potential to become a serious problem in subtropical climates where the snakes can survive year round. Once in a while we even bump into a released snake in Massachusetts, but we know that the alligators and burmese pythons we've found wouldn't survive the winter and, thusly, wouldn't be able to negatively impact the ecosystem for very long.
Such isn't the case down in places like Florida, and we understand Python molurus bivitattus might be breeding in the Everglades. It's unfortunate, and the only solution is to keep these snakes out of the hands of stupid people who have no business buying one. It's also unfortunate to all the competent owners and keepers out there who will be negatively impacted by this probable necessity.
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hmm, I think my Vagans is gonna die within the next couple of months. It stopped eating and started webbing sperm-webs all over the place. Since I don't know anyone who breeds it's gonna die a virgin
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that sucks..i'm sure there are some people not too far away that have females. there's a european section of a forum i belong to, i don't have access to it because i've never asked to have it..but i should be able to get access to it, or at least post a question to see if anyone around you has one. if you wanted of course. one of my mature males died on me, the others were sent off..one was eaten, and the other i have no clue about. the person that i sent him to never got back to me with any info.
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Damn, she's getting big. I think Rose fits her well.
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she looks good. typically, you don't need that big of a tank though. she could climb the sides, fall and die. generally, the rule of thumb for vertical space (for terrestrial species) is that you only need about their leg-span worth of height. you should be ok regardless...you just never know. you'd be surprised how little space spiders need.
ha i had the same "cave" hide.
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she doesn't like to climb. on a very odd day you might see her leg on the cave hahaha.
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it's not a tarantula...but that is the name of the genus. threw me for a loop the first time i saw it as well.
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nice pics man, gave me something to do
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nice. sucks about the eyes. i guess if it can see and shed alright, shouldn't be a problem. my friend is still taking care of my corn snake. not sure what he wants to do with it yet. so far i think he seems to either not mind or enjoys having it around. the way my future is looking, i won't be able to take it back anytime in the near (and maybe distant) future. he knows that though, so i told him if he wants to sell it, i can help by posting for sale ads online here and there.
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well they eyes should be back in proportion when the snake grows, i was told, so thats cool.
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well they eyes should be back in proportion when the snake grows, i was told, so thats cool.
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oh you mean in proportion to the head? i thought you meant one eye was bigger than the other. 
i never kept mine in the same tank. corns won't eat each other, i just try to keep them apart as a rule of thumb. not sure if has ever happened or not. maybe if they were starving they would? no idea. my corn snake is about 2-2.5 years old i think. kinda lost track.
chris - yea, i'm just kinda lazy about italicizing the scientific names. i used to not even capitalize the genus name but finally decided i might as well. every so often i'll be in a not as lazy mood and go the whole 9 yards..just not too often. |
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hah i've seen that thing in /an/ a bunch. the "article' says huntsman aren't poisonous. which is true of every spider. they are venomous. also..i'm pretty sure huntsman have venom..it's just not significant in terms of being harmful to humans.
i caught one (not that big) at my parents hosue in tampa once..i'd post the picture..but for some reason, it keeps timing out when i try to sign into photobucket.
check out this one! if i was still able to keep spiders..i'd have ordered one of these the next time i placed an order.
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they are on the first page of that link. $25 for wild caught 2-4" spiders. he's hoping to have some captive bred stock soon..which would be less expensive since he'd have a bunch of them and they'd be smaller. they probably aren't very hard to keep, they are quick though. the only thing about spiders like that is that they don't live nearly as long as tarantulas...which is part of the reason that tarantulas are the most popular spiders that people keep.
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That site is awesome - I'm considering getting one. I don't imagine they're very expensive to keep.. could you average the money needed to feed a Huntsman for say, 6 months? Also - how long do they normally live in captivity? How big of a terrarium do they need?
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the monthly cost is very low..it's more the initial set up cost that is something to consider. it's not expensive either..just you have to buy or make some kind of enclosure, a tight fitting lid, some substrate, water dish (you can use a plastic lid from something) and maybe some fake (or real if you want to really get into it) leaves/plants, and some piece of cork bark or other wood..preferably sterilized. i think a 5 gallon tank would be alright for one of those..at most a 10g.
the monthly costs would be crickets and/or roaches for feeders..you'd need something to keep the feeders in..and something for them to eat. i used the fluker's brand orange cubes. gives the feeders plenty of nutrients for the spiders to injest.
all in all..keeping spiders is pretty cheap...mainly the actual spiders and the enclosures are what adds up the most to make the majority of the investment in the whole thing.
as for life span..i'm not too sure. i'd guess somewhere around a year to a few years. i could ask some people that know more about it than i do. or you could shoot that guy an email..he's pretty cool. an ex cop and a black belt of some sort. he also likes motorcycles.
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Hells yeah! That site is pretty cool. I have actually been thinking of a pet spider the last year but I want it to be right for both the spider and more importantly... me.
To hell with a huntsman though. I've run into them in the wild while in Nuke school and the first thing I though of was that the 1978 Alien movie face Hunger was in fact real. Darko, I think you are right in that they look prehistoric and there is a deep seeded reason for that.
The only thing I've seen that looks close to them is a camel spider and its not a spider at all. They still look scary though.
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they are on the first page of that link. $25 for wild caught 2-4" spiders. he's hoping to have some captive bred stock soon..which would be less expensive since he'd have a bunch of them and they'd be smaller. they probably aren't very hard to keep, they are quick though. the only thing about spiders like that is that they don't live nearly as long as tarantulas...which is part of the reason that tarantulas are the most popular spiders that people keep.
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they are on the first page of that link. $25 for wild caught 2-4" spiders. he's hoping to have some captive bred stock soon..which would be less expensive since he'd have a bunch of them and they'd be smaller. they probably aren't very hard to keep, they are quick though. the only thing about spiders like that is that they don't live nearly as long as tarantulas...which is part of the reason that tarantulas are the most popular spiders that people keep.
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Be careful anytime you're dealing with wild caught animals over the internet. Such business is poorly regulated, if at all, and contributes to the rapid depletion of native stock of rare or threatened animals. It's also important to note that even if you aren't aware an animal is threatened it may indeed be in the area(s) they are being collected from.
I'm sure it isn't all bad, but it's certainly something I'd avoid.
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soul - there are some other sites just like it as well..that guy is a good dealer though. he doesn't do freebies however. several dealers will do freebies because they get overrun with stock due to captive breeding...some tarantulas (Lasiodora comes to mind) have thousands of babies per sac..and that tends to be a handful when you already have a ton of spiders and other critters to take care of. i'd say a tarantula is the way to go for a first spider..there are some really tough species that don't need very specific temp/humidity requirements, look nice, and live for a while. other spiders are cool to keep, but for someone just getting into the whole thing..it may be frustrating having them die after a year or so. that also depends on how old the spider was when you bought it.
zionist - that one isn't a tarantula..the first handful are all other types of spiders..the tarantulas begin at Acanthoscurria atrox (brazilian giant black) yea, they are generally much cheaper than reptiles. some of the more common reptiles can be had for less than some of the more rare species of tarantula though. for an adult female Poecilotheria metallica..you're looking at a few hundred bucks. they are highly sought after, rare, and don't produce many young per egg sac. http://botarby8s.com/images/spiders/pmetallica2.jpg
chris - i agree on the WC issue. this particular guy is pretty good though. he did receive and does receive some WC animals..but he makes sure to try and establish some captive breeding..which is part of the description for that particular species..the babies are on the way. |
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I'm also considering the Singapore Blue Huntsman or the Goliath Birdeater.
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i'm pretty sure they are all captive born unless otherwise noted. judging by the small sizes for most of them. according to the front page, he sold his business to someone that i've heard of and read about but have never done business with.
just so you know..that "singapore blue" Cyriopagopus sp. is a tarantula and not a huntsman. the tarantulas start on the first page, after the huntsman and trap door spiders, and end on the sixth page where the scorpions begin.
they are actually likely to be a member of a different genus..but i think it's still up for debate with the taxonomists. Lampropelma i think is the name of the other genus that it is supposed to belong to. either way..they are a large arboreal tarantula from asia. very fast, they like a bit of humidity, and may or may not be a bit tempermental...that really depends on the individual spider.
the "goliath birdeater" Theraphosa blondi is an awesome spider..the largest or second largest known spider on earth. the other possibly larger spider is a close relative and in the same genus...also looks very similar. their needs are a little more than a lot of tarantulas. they need a good deal of humidity. they live in the rain forest in south america just to give you an idea of what i mean. they are big and also love to flick hairs at you. of course there is always a chance the one you get wouldn't ever do it..i just wouldn't count on it. wash your hands after working with that one. if you rubbed some of the hairs (actually bristles) into your eyes..it would really suck.
which ever one you get, just be smart and pay attention. it's best to know where the spider is before you begin doing maintenance because they could jump out all of a sudden and scare the hell out of you which could lead to who knows what.
recommended first tarantulas would be any spiders from the genera Brachypelma, Grammostola, Avicularia, and Lasiodora. the last one there gets pretty big as well. you can get whatever though..just use your head, and if you have any questions, ask or even join a forum like arachnoboards.com, atshq.org, venomlist.com etc.
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Thanks, graf.
I've had lots of experience with keeping terrariums at specific humidities (last one I had to keep at 100% 24/7) so that wouldn't be a problem if I get a tropical spider.
Watch this guy drain his massive spider bite: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...258224777&hl=en
Half way through when he has to get the tweezers to pull the puss out! FUCK!
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2008-05-09, 20:55
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Thanks for the disclaimer. If I decide to get something, I'll e-mail the guy first about his methods and what not.
I'm also considering the Singapore Blue Huntsman or the Goliath Birdeater.
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2008-05-09, 21:58
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http://botarby8s.com/policy.html
that's all the info for buying from him..it may have changed since it also says that he sold the company.
darko - well that will definitely help with that T. blondi. they are prone to molting issues if the humidity is too low. seems sometimes they still have trouble..then again, the majority of them don't so it's probably people not keeping the humidity up.
what did you keep in those terrariums? the main problem you'd have to worry about with a tarantula is food remains + moisture = mites. you have to be extra careful about cleaing up food remains in a tank with high humidity. the remains can be tricky to spot too..especially when you are just starting out.
http://www.southernspiderworks.com
http://www.swiftinverts.com/
the above are two other really good online dealers. southern spider works (ssw) is where i've ordered a large chunk of my old collection. eventually i started buying from other users on forums..provided they had good feedback or i knew and trusted them. it's a lot cheaper to buy from other hobbyists instead of dealers.
another plus about the two links i just posted are that they do freebies with orders. at swifts, you can click the icon that says "always a freebie" and see what species are available at the time. they change regularly depending on what hatches out.
ha that video looks like a lot of fun. i wonder what bit him.
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2008-05-09, 22:28
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what did you keep in those terrariums? the main problem you'd have to worry about with a tarantula is food remains + moisture = mites. you have to be extra careful about cleaing up food remains in a tank with high humidity. the remains can be tricky to spot too..especially when you are just starting out.
http://www.southernspiderworks.com
http://www.swiftinverts.com/
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Mushrooms.
Thanks, I'll check out those sites.
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