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yea that little guy looks just like my snake. "guy" is just a figure of speech...you can't tell the sex from that picture. or at least i can't. i know you can sort of tell by the way the end of their tail tapers off..but i think it works better when they are adults.
one thing i didn't mention about kings..they can musk you! haha. mine has done it to me a few times. as a defensive measure..they can release this really bad smelling secretion. i usually just rinse off my hand while holding the snake in the other and it's not as bad.
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eww lollll bah you know, when you have a dog and it took you 3 years to show him the right place to piss and chit....i think that musk wont be so bad!!!
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yea..some calm down..some don't. but i think as long as you handle them regularly, it is more likely that they will calm down.
noticed my Theraphosa blondi was laying on its back.  too bad i want to go to sleep early tonight..i'll probably miss the actual molt.
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yea that little guy looks just like my snake. "guy" is just a figure of speech...you can't tell the sex from that picture. or at least i can't. i know you can sort of tell by the way the end of their tail tapers off..but i think it works better when they are adults.
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Some learn to reasonably estimate gender at a good success rate based on tail thickness (and length, for that matter), but it becomes quite difficult without specimens for comparison. If you have one male and one female of a certain species, you can resonably guess which is which, but even this situation only works with most colubrids and very few (if any) other snakes. There are a few snakes that are notably sexually dimorphic, although the only one that jumps to mind is Langaha madagascariensis.
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one thing i didn't mention about kings..they can musk you! haha. mine has done it to me a few times. as a defensive measure..they can release this really bad smelling secretion. i usually just rinse off my hand while holding the snake in the other and it's not as bad.
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A lot of snakes can musk, but I've never personally been musked by any Lampropeltis. I've been bitten and rattled at plenty of times, but never musked. Lampropeltine musk can't beanywhere near in the same neighborhood as Thamnophiine (esp. Nerodia) musk or the wonderful scents of Diadophis.
I've had some pleasant experiences trying in vain to scrub the scent of Nerodia sipedon off of my hands with a fucking Brillo pad. Incidentally, you'll find that Brillo pads remove slug slime from your hands more readily than just about anything else if you find yourself in the unfortunate situation where that would be necessary.
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they can be unsexed or just cant figured it out the sex?
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up until they are a certain size, it is very hard to tell what sex they are without using a microscope. i don't have one though..so i have to wait till they are about 2" or so then try to figure it out. it's still pretty tough at that size sometimes.
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My friend and I want to buy two Corn snakes but have are a bit concerned about two things. Should we get two females of different types and put them in the same aquariam or could we get one male and one female but of different types. Also if the male and female would happen to breed what would happen?
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My friend and I want to buy two Corn snakes but have are a bit concerned about two things. Should we get two females of different types and put them in the same aquariam or could we get one male and one female but of different types. Also if the male and female would happen to breed what would happen?
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first of all...i recommend you buy a book about keeping corn snakes..and each of you read it. there you will learn the general dos and don'ts about care and some info on breeding. do research and learn about the animals you intend to care for BEFORE you purchase them. that way you will avoid any sudden emergencies that will require you to seek others help.
i keep my corns in separate tanks. a 10g tank should only run you about 10 or 15 bucks. they aren't cannibalistic like some snakes..but it will keep them from competing for food. no reason to keep two females together. the different "types" will breed together as long as they are both corn snakes...the offspring..if everything works out...will be a mixture of the combination of the parents. a reputable and informed dealer will include information about their genetics so you will have a better idea about the outcome of the offspring. |
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I'm reading up on Wikipedia now.
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i've never read what wiki has to say about them..but the more you read the better. i recommend the book i have. it was written by bill and kathy love. it's called "corn snakes" they are extremely experienced with corns and know a LOT about them...especially breeding them.
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thanks.
i'm still not sure what type of bedding to use. sand sounds good because you will not have to remove them during feeding. and my method of heat still isn't certain. what do you use for both of those?
this looks efficent for heat. http://www.petsmart.com/global/prod...&N=2030050&Ne=2
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that heat pad looks fine.
i use aspen shavings for substrate. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/IMG_1134s.jpg they can swallow that or sand. i would feed them in a different tank all together..or at least put their food in some kind of cup that they can't get out of but the snake can get in and out of. if i'm in a hurry, or just lately my feeding container is in use..i put a decent sized plastic cup in there with the mouse in it. basically the size of an order of wanton soup from a chinese place. that way there is no chance of the snake ingesting some of the substrate. they can't digest that shit and it will build up in their digestive tract and can cause serious health issues.
another benefit is that you guarantee to handle your snake from time to time. you are best off handling it every day..when they are young they are nervous and can be nippy..but they will get used to you. also when they are small...if they bite..it doesn't hurt at all. not all of them will bite..but i have one corn that will..and it doesn't hurt.
also, people move them to different containers to feed to condition them. if you only open the lid to feed them...eventually they could learn that whenever you are opening the lid, it is feeding time. aka they are in strike mode when you open the lid. if you open the lid also to handle them...clean/change the water in their bowl, etc. they aren't as hardwired to think it is food t ime. |
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aspen looks good but i read the reviews over that heat lamp and they weren't to good. what source of heat do you use? actually could you just show me you whole cage so i can get some set up ideas. i heard that i should feed them frozen mice because it is often considered animal cruelty and in the UK it is illegal.
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i have some pics of the whole tank...but i'd have to shrink and crop them. kinda drunk as it is 4:30 am...pretty much jiust have a couple inches of that aspen bedding. some cork bark as a hide/climb. a water dish..has to be fairly heavy so they can't flip it over. and a heat pad stuck to the side...i put them on one end of the 10g tank to offer a heat gradient. i guess you will do fine with it on the bottom..just make sure to put it on one end of the tank. spiders burrow naturally to escape heat so putting the heat mats on the underside can cause problems...don't think that applies to snakes though.
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About the heat pad on the side. I read that it can't be removed from the tank. So how would you clean it out?
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About the heat pad on the side. I read that it can't be removed from the tank. So how would you clean it out? Or do you just go around it. That would make the process a lot more difficult.
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here is one of the corn snakes enclosures
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i have since moved that piece of cork bark so it is not leaning against the side..it is just laying flat on that side of the tank. the snake loves to hide under it. the other thing in there besides the dish is some premade cave thing. it uses that often as well.
the heat pad is stuck to the outside of the tank so it is not in the way during cleaning at all. i've never tried removing it..but i'm sure it will come off. might leave some glue residue or something..but you can wash or scrape it off.
this is my king snakes tank
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Damn I never even thought about puting the heat pad on the out side. What is the name of the that you are using? I will most likely get my set-up similar to your first enclosure. With varying objects for them to hide and climb on.
Where did you get that plant at in the king snakes tank?
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i don't know what it was called...threw out the boxes a while ago. it was just some random heat pad they had on sale at the store here. you should be able to find them at almost any pet store or definitely at a reptile store. i think they were about $13 each or something like that.
the plant i also bought at one of the reptile stores here..they are just silk leaves attached to a main "branch" that has a suction cup on it. make sure you stick it on there good because the snake will climb in it. they have a few different styles and sizes of the fake plants..i try to mix it up and have some of each, but haven't ever mixed them up in one tank.
oh and another thing..in the corn snakes tank..i don't normally have that light on it...i just put that there for the photograph. if you look closely you can see the snake sitting on top of the cork bark next to the heat pad. tiny little snake..but it has grown..that pic is over a year old.
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I will most likely be ordering from online so when I find all the stuff I want to buy I will post it in here and see what you think of it. The reason for that is our local petstore is small and doesn't have any thing and PetSmart is to far away. I just hope that he has the correct size mice for me to feed. Of course, I 'll check that out soon. If he doesn't carry them I may have to order them online. LOL Ordering dead mice sounds funny.
Also I noticed that you don't have a thermometer or is it just not visible in the photos?
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haha yea i've never ordered feeders online before.. i guess they ship them with cold packs or something.
nah i don't have any thermometers. keeping them at room temp should be just fine. if they are too cold..they will get up next to the heat pad. most of the time they aren't near the heat pad, so they are doing just fine. if you want one anyway..you should probably get a digital one..i think those little plastic analog ones are kinda shitty and not terribly accurate. http://www.worldwidesnakes.com/uk-r...ermometer_1.jpg i have one and a humidity gauge just like it in one of my spider tanks..but that was my first set up and was overly worried about getting everything perfect. now that i know a lot more about it..i haven't looked to see what the gauges say in about a year and a half haha.
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haha yea i've never ordered feeders online before.. i guess they ship them with cold packs or something.
nah i don't have any thermometers. keeping them at room temp should be just fine. if they are too cold..they will get up next to the heat pad. most of the time they aren't near the heat pad, so they are doing just fine. if you want one anyway..you should probably get a digital one..i think those little plastic analog ones are kinda shitty and not terribly accurate. http://www.worldwidesnakes.com/uk-r...ermometer_1.jpg i have one and a humidity gauge just like it in one of my spider tanks..but that was my first set up and was overly worried about getting everything perfect. now that i know a lot more about it..i haven't looked to see what the gauges say in about a year and a half haha.
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damn, the impossible thing happened, my regalis molted! haha, shes even more gorgeous now
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no man, sorry i dont have a camera of my own and ive never been into photography. A pity though, because, like yourself, you actually have two hobbies in one when you can take the most awesome pics of your spiders. Oh and i tossed the molt, cause it was pretty fucked up, i think she molted sitting up the wall, haha.
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this weekend i SHOULD be getting my breadie!
Heres his living space, its almost done!
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All I need, is my heat lamp (just came back into stock at work) and a ceramic bulb! Im going to be using paper towel on the bottom of the tank!
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looks good. have you thought about using sand instead of paper towels? the pt is easier to clean, i just think the sand looks a lot better.
the girl i'm watching a snake for uses newspaper..but for mine i use aspen bedding because it looks better. well..that and the snakes seem to like burrowing around through it.
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looks good. have you thought about using sand instead of paper towels? the pt is easier to clean, i just think the sand looks a lot better.
the girl i'm watching a snake for uses newspaper..but for mine i use aspen bedding because it looks better. well..that and the snakes seem to like burrowing around through it.
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huh..i didn't know that. then again, i don't know much about them. i know they could accidentally eat some while feeding..that is why with the snakes i either put the food in a plastic tub inside their tanks..or take the snakes out and feed them in an empty tank.
good ol' spiders have a sort of filter of dense hairs surrounding their mouth.
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I always roll with the newpaper, except with wild caught snakes. Wild caught snakes tend to hide underneath it. They also expel their waste underneath it, completely negating the point of using paper towels and newspaper.
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i would..but i only have 3 snakes. they all are CB and shit up top. i'm selling them all now though. i have to move and am going into the navy. i haven't posted my for sale thread here though...i only posted it on a few forums geared towards arachnids. the snakes i'm selling back to the same pet store. they specialize in reptiles, and i trust them more than any of the other stores around here. i've never shipped or received a reptile in the mail either. but i trust this place..they have a good rep.
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nope. tarantulas and all arthropods have exoskeletons. in other words, they don't have an internal skeleton like we do. they have a hard outer shell made of various kinds of cuticle. the only way for a spider to grow is to develop a new layer of this exoskeleton inside its current one. after a point, it sheds the old one and has a soft exoskeleton that is larger. it stretches out a little bit as it hardens since it was inside the older/smaller one.
those are all shed exuvium (read exoskeleton/outer shell).
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are silkworms a common feed like meal worms/crickets?
Crickets can be in short supply around here, and meal worms are a little hard to digest for young-ins, but silks are right next to crickets.
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i'm sure they can be used, though a great rule of thumb is: don't do anything you aren't certain is ok. there is always the possibility that certain feeders are toxic to certain animals.
in other news...i'm down to one corn snake, and someone is watching a spider for me that i didn't sell.
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I already know they are a good feed, i just dont carry them or can get them in. just askign in general 
on the plus side, my beardie is kickin' ass. he shed some skin today and kicks the shot out of them crickets! 
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My snake went to the vet yesterday - wasn't taking mice, was looking a bit average, thought it was about time for worming. He showed me a ton of cool shit, most notably where to squeeze to produce instant snake shit. That will come in handy.
Turns out there's a bunch of intestinal parasites in the little fucker, so I now have the pleasure of jamming a syringe down his neck and medicating him.
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ahh..well in that case i don't think they are too common, but i could be wrong. i've never used them before..just superworms, roaches, and crickets. you consider trying roaches? don't make noise (well most don't), don't stink like crickets, and are a bit heartier of a meal than a cricket.
nice! i like beardies, but i've never had one before. perhaps one day i'll get one when i start building up my zoo again..but for now i am just down to one snake, and someone is watching a spider for me..but i'll probably try to sell him before too long.
fbs..that sucks about the snake. i bought all of mine unsexed, but i'd be pretty unhappy if i bought one as a particular sex and it turned out to be the contrary. i guess with certain species, pairing two of the same sex could wind up to be trouble. i know it would be bad news with spiders..fortunately you can easily tell a mature male by simply looking at it. |
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my friend who has one uses roaches, he said they are fucking sweet.
I get my crickets dirt fucking cheap (6 cents a pop), 8 is regular at my store, but other stores charge 12-15 a pop
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yea, lots of people swear by roaches. i always wanted to set up my own breeding colony to have free feeders but i was too lazy to get around to it. probably for the best...would've been one more thing i had to get rid of before moving. that or letting a shitload of roaches loose in my backyard.
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nope. tarantulas and all arthropods have exoskeletons. in other words, they don't have an internal skeleton like we do. they have a hard outer shell made of various kinds of cuticle. the only way for a spider to grow is to develop a new layer of this exoskeleton inside its current one. after a point, it sheds the old one and has a soft exoskeleton that is larger. it stretches out a little bit as it hardens since it was inside the older/smaller one.
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My snake went to the vet yesterday - wasn't taking mice, was looking a bit average, thought it was about time for worming...
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That reminds me of this show I watched on the animal channel when I was a child. a tarantula was fighting a type of snake (not sure which type) but the tarantula killed it after a tidius battle. Later he shedded his exoskeleton and got ate by a bird.
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i might've seen that before...i think it was a baby fer-de-lance (Bothrops atrox). but it was just a baby vs. a large adult...but i could be mistaken and it wasn't a tarantula that i saw..maybe a centipede or scorpion. i think it was a tarantula though.
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I had been thinking about buying a Green Tree Python for the last couple weeks, or so. I've always wanted one, throughout my life, I love colorful snakes.
Today I finally decided to do research on them, and realized not only is the upkeep too difficult, but they are fucking expensive, and so are most other snakes, besides the typical ones. IE Corn Snakes and Ball Pythons, and even those would probably be out of my league.
I also found that people have been by large Burmese pythons, which makes absolutely no sense. Keeping an animal in a domestic area that can kill you does not make sense to me.
In anycase, I'm really disappointed about the Tree Python.
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Huh? Ball pythons aren't hard to take care of at all, they don't do much and they're not expensive. :?: I do hear sometimes they get depressed and stop eating though, but I've read there are a few tricks to get their appetite into gear again.
I've never owned any reptiles but did consider owning a ball python for quite some time.
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Huh? Ball pythons aren't hard to take care of at all, they don't do much and they're not expensive. :?: I do hear sometimes they get depressed and stop eating though, but I've read there are a few tricks to get their appetite into gear again.
I've never owned any reptiles but did consider owning a ball python for quite some time.
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I had been thinking about buying a Green Tree Python for the last couple weeks, or so. I've always wanted one, throughout my life, I love colorful snakes.
Today I finally decided to do research on them, and realized not only is the upkeep too difficult, but they are fucking expensive, and so are most other snakes, besides the typical ones. IE Corn Snakes and Ball Pythons, and even those would probably be out of my league.
I also found that people have been by large Burmese pythons, which makes absolutely no sense. Keeping an animal in a domestic area that can kill you does not make sense to me.
In anycase, I'm really disappointed about the Tree Python.
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i don't know how old you are, but there are lots of little kids with ball pythons, it is easier than you think to care for them. i'd say the trickiest part is as soeru said, sometimes they are picky eaters. many times the dealer or person selling them will be able to tell if they are eating or not..but again, there are several tricks out there to get them to eat.
if you want a snake that is even less trouble, get a corn snake. they are beautiful snakes, come in a large array of color forms, and get to a decent size...not as thick as ball pythons or other pythons and boas, but they still are about the same length as a full grown ball.
yea, those tree pythons are amazing looking snakes. i too was looking to get one of those before i had any experience with snakes and found the same information you did.
"amazon tree boas" look really cool too, but are similar in care to the "green tree pythons" (i don't remember either of their scientific names), but are smaller and seem to be much more varied in their colorations. they also can get pretty expensive from what i've seen.
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho...0&highlight=ATB
as for keeping of animals that can kill you, to many it doesn't make sense but it isn't for everyone. it takes a lot of training, learning, and experience before you even want to attempt it. one day i'd like to keep one venomous snake, but the way things are going for me right now, i might not be able to keep any snakes for a while. then by the time i am able to again, i may be getting closer to having a family and kids..and if that were the case, chances are my wife would not be into that idea at all. plus, if i had kids, i wouldn't want to have kids and a venomous snake.
they aren't for handling that is for sure, but the reason i'd like to one day have one is that they are often very amazing look snakes..i love snakes, and don't necessarily need to handle them. i'd just like to watch them (even though many venomous snakes are fairly inactive  ).
check out some of these pics.
Bitis nasicornis
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...asicornis-1.jpg
http://www.giftschlangen-kampa.de/i...nis%20Ghana.jpg
these snakes from the genus Atheris are the ones that got me started on the whole idea. they look amazing, don't get very big, the only main downside is that i have heard from a few sources that not all do well in captivity, but also that there is no anti-venin for these snakes.
Atheris squamiger
http://www.kingsnake.com/ihs/I.H.S....copyrighted.jpg
Atheris hispidus
http://www.bluechameleon.org/Photo%...%20hispidus.jpg
Atheris ceratophora
http://www.kingsnake.com/atheris/photos/WOA-ZTcer4.jpg
Atheris hirsuta
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i don't know how old you are, but there are lots of little kids with ball pythons, it is easier than you think to care for them. i'd say the trickiest part is as soeru said, sometimes they are picky eaters. many times the dealer or person selling them will be able to tell if they are eating or not..but again, there are several tricks out there to get them to eat.
if you want a snake that is even less trouble, get a corn snake. they are beautiful snakes, come in a large array of color forms, and get to a decent size...not as thick as ball pythons or other pythons and boas, but they still are about the same length as a full grown ball.
yea, those tree pythons are amazing looking snakes. i too was looking to get one of those before i had any experience with snakes and found the same information you did.
"amazon tree boas" look really cool too, but are similar in care to the "green tree pythons" (i don't remember either of their scientific names), but are smaller and seem to be much more varied in their colorations. they also can get pretty expensive from what i've seen.
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho...0&highlight=ATB
as for keeping of animals that can kill you, to many it doesn't make sense but it isn't for everyone. it takes a lot of training, learning, and experience before you even want to attempt it. one day i'd like to keep one venomous snake, but the way things are going for me right now, i might not be able to keep any snakes for a while. then by the time i am able to again, i may be getting closer to having a family and kids..and if that were the case, chances are my wife would not be into that idea at all. plus, if i had kids, i wouldn't want to have kids and a venomous snake.
they aren't for handling that is for sure, but the reason i'd like to one day have one is that they are often very amazing look snakes..i love snakes, and don't necessarily need to handle them. i'd just like to watch them (even though many venomous snakes are fairly inactive ).
check out some of these pics.
Bitis nasicornis
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...asicornis-1.jpg
http://www.giftschlangen-kampa.de/i...nis%20Ghana.jpg
these snakes from the genus Atheris are the ones that got me started on the whole idea. they look amazing, don't get very big, the only main downside is that i have heard from a few sources that not all do well in captivity, but also that there is no anti-venin for these snakes.
Atheris squamiger
http://www.kingsnake.com/ihs/I.H.S....copyrighted.jpg
Atheris hispidus
http://www.bluechameleon.org/Photo%...%20hispidus.jpg
Atheris ceratophora
http://www.kingsnake.com/atheris/photos/WOA-ZTcer4.jpg
Atheris hirsuta
http://www.herpetologie.naturkundem...suta_life_1.jpg
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It's probably more that I had my heart set on the green tree python, than anything. I don't think that I'll be getting a snake anytime soon, and by time I am ready to get one, I'll be in the same, but more extreme situation than you.(no snakes whatsoever)
Those tree boas looked so amazing, but I could imagine them being ridiculously expensive for their color, and being fairly uncommon.
This was the only animal I've owned that was venomous, I didn't keep it long, as I was very inexperienced, and had no idea what the hell I needed to keep it.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/....cfm?pCatId=231
That first viper you showed me, looked similar the Gaboon Viper. It's suppose to have the longest fangs of any venomous snake, and be able to deliver the largest dosage of venom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitis_gabonica
Those last set of vipers have always been my favorite. I know nothing of scientific names for snakes, I always just referred to them as bush vipers, which doesn't seem incorrect. And it's probably not worth owning any of those venomous animals, you can't handle them outside of what's necessary, complacency can easily set in after years of having them, and not having an anti-venom developed is a huge downside.
There probably isn't an anti-venom, because of rarity. That's the only reason I could think of it, and they would probably cost a fortune if you did decide to buy one. Which I couldn't protest too hardly after telling anyone it's a bad idea once, they are awesome, and are my favorite set of vipers.
They were also the first set of vipers I wanted to own, until I bought the lionfish, and realized all sorts of weird things can happen with animals in captivity.
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what "extreme situation" is that? you mean no snakes for the rest of your life? or for a long while? i won't be able to have any for a few years at least. i have one left (a juvi corn), but i'm gonna give him to my friend for a while until i can take it back...if too much time goes by, i might just make arrangements to sell it.
yea, those ATBs are pretty expensive..i forget how much the one i saw for sale was, but the last pics i saw of some on that forum, the person had 9 hatchlings and was looking to sell them at over 1k! they are a specific type though and the person knows all the genetics involved if someone was to try and breed them for certain colorations and whatnot.
lion fish are pretty cool! i was gonna set up a saltwater tank a few years ago and ultimately wanted to get either a lion fish or a small moray. wound up canning those plans and got some tarantulas instead hah.
only venomous critters i've had were the tarantulas, most of which had very insignificant venom. and some scorpions which has more potent venom than any of the spiders i had.
yea, the first viper was similar to the "gaboon viper" which is B gabonica, the one i posted is B nasicornis. i think the latter looks nicer as the colors are much different instead of various shades of brown, gray, black, and white.
Atheris are commonly called african bush vipers. yea, the lack of antivenin is a big negative in my mind. most likely you wouldn't die..just maybe wish you did. death is still possible though depending on the circumstances. that's why i wouldn't keep one if i had kids, their smaller bodies would result in a much larger chance of death.
you are right though, complacency is one of the most common ways people wind up getting bitten. after years of working with a snake that has never snapped at you once, it would be somewhat easy to assume that the next cleaning will go smoothly. i think reading about and looking at pictures of bite accounts every so often would be a decent reminder.  |
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after a few minutes of digging around, i found some ads for some various Atheris sp. unfortunately, many of them are somewhat old (oldest being mid 2005) but there were a handful from a couple months back.
cheapest i saw was:
0.0.1 Atheris chlorechis (green phase) $80
most expensive:
1.0 Atheris squamigera FLAWLESS BLACK SPECIMEN RARE!! $850ea
others:
0.1 Atheris squamigera FLAWLESS GOLD ADULT $350ea
0.1 Atheris squamigera FLAWLESS GREEN/GOLD ADULT $350ea
Western Green Bush Viper Atheris Chlorechis 150.00
Usambara Bush Viper Atheris ceratophora 100.00
Western Green Bush Viper Atheris chlorechis 100.00
Usumbara Bush Vipers Atheris cerataphora $200 each One orange available (male or female) $250 http://www.venomousreptiles.org/dat...mages/20011.jpg
Western Green Bush Viper Atheris Chlorechis 200
Adult Female Atheris Chlorechis. $250 http://www.venomousreptiles.org/dat...mages/18425.jpg
Nice long term pair...female pounds rat pups, male is finicky but eats pinks fine. $350 shipped.
just a random pic of one that was sold and no price listed:
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/dat...mages/20116.jpg
0.0.0 means male.female.unsexed if there are just two, they should be male.female
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what "extreme situation" is that? you mean no snakes for the rest of your life? or for a long while? i won't be able to have any for a few years at least. i have one left (a juvi corn), but i'm gonna give him to my friend for a while until i can take it back...if too much time goes by, i might just make arrangements to sell it.
yea, those ATBs are pretty expensive..i forget how much the one i saw for sale was, but the last pics i saw of some on that forum, the person had 9 hatchlings and was looking to sell them at over 1k! they are a specific type though and the person knows all the genetics involved if someone was to try and breed them for certain colorations and whatnot.
lion fish are pretty cool! i was gonna set up a saltwater tank a few years ago and ultimately wanted to get either a lion fish or a small moray. wound up canning those plans and got some tarantulas instead hah.
only venomous critters i've had were the tarantulas, most of which had very insignificant venom. and some scorpions which has more potent venom than any of the spiders i had.
yea, the first viper was similar to the "gaboon viper" which is B gabonica, the one i posted is B nasicornis. i think the latter looks nicer as the colors are much different instead of various shades of brown, gray, black, and white.
Atheris are commonly called african bush vipers. yea, the lack of antivenin is a big negative in my mind. most likely you wouldn't die..just maybe wish you did. death is still possible though depending on the circumstances. that's why i wouldn't keep one if i had kids, their smaller bodies would result in a much larger chance of death.
you are right though, complacency is one of the most common ways people wind up getting bitten. after years of working with a snake that has never snapped at you once, it would be somewhat easy to assume that the next cleaning will go smoothly. i think reading about and looking at pictures of bite accounts every so often would be a decent reminder. |
I mean, that the person I want to marry will absolutely not tolerate snakes, so if I do end up getting married I'll probably never have one.
I wouldn't buy any pet for 1k. Way too pricey.
I don't know much about the venom of the bush vipers, but I do know that usually when an animal is brightly colored it usually means something, and I wouldn't want to take a chance with any type of hemotoxic venom, and pit vipers are notorious for deliver the stuff in fair amounts.
It takes lots of discipline to not get complacent, which alot of people don't have, but looking at pictures of what those things can do probably would help. I'd love to own one, but it's way too much of a risk, I'll have to settle for pictures.
Lionfish look awesome, and I might own some again someday. I never considered getting a scorpion or a tarantula as a pet, and I probably never will.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachesis_(genus)#Venom
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estring - yea, not too expensive considering you can find corn snakes in the 100-200 range (maybe even more for an adult).
ahh i hear you about the wife. it is probably pretty tough to find a girl that would agree to having something like that in the house..unless you knew she was into it from the start.
i don't think the military would let me keep something like that on the base..i'd have to live somewhere off base, and even then, landlords might not be into that. so yea, for now, and possibly ever, pictures is all for me. i'd love to find a zoo with some on display, but i read tonight that some don't even keep them because of the lack of antivenin.
the problem is they are way out in the west and some of the middle of africa where they don't really have much interaction with people. and so, very few bites occur..which means not much money is put up to study their venom to develop something to fight it.
lionfish do look great..i prefer the ones with the big spines sticking out, too bad they need a much larger tank.
hah i don't think i've ever heard of or seen a venomous bite story that was any fun! long term effects just add another level of shittyness to it.
bob - i found one with a fairly recent listing, but honestly it was from july, and it was probably sold.
not to mention that would be your first snake. NOT a good idea! i'm not even near ready to keep a snake like that. i've only had 3 of my own snakes and they were all juveniles. still have one for now. i was watching an adult corn for a long time..but that doesn't prepare you for dealing with a venomous snake. you need to learn a lot, be trained by someone that knows what they are doing, have plans in case you or someone is bitten, preferably have antivenin at your house, have a spare room you can lock and the snakes couldn't get out of if they did get out of their tank (which should be locked!), etc. there is a LOT of shit you have to know and do.
hell in florida alone, you must have 1 year of training with no less than 1000 logged hours with a licensed venomous snake keeper, pay a fee for your license, and i think that might be it..but there could be one or two other things you have to do.
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it definitely wouldn't be a good idea to get an Atheris without having years of experience. one slip up, and you'll be in the hospital in a very unpleasant situation.
nope, there are several non venomous arboreal snakes.
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just bought a very young Elaphe Guttata Guttata. Dont have pics buts its plain awesome. This is like a childhood dream coming true for me, haha.
Oh and i got rid of the Regalis (traded it for the snake) and the Seemani (gave it to a friend).
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that world of Atheris site is awesome. read through the whole thing at work one time. the guy that wrote it (michael jacobi) is or was (not sure which) a big tarantula (mainly arboreal) dealer. he had some other arachnids also, but was all about the arboreals. he even has an arboreal arachnid forum on his website. i say is or was because he keeps talking about getting out of retail sales and only doing bulk orders, but then i keep seeing threads he posts about "last stock for sale to public" etc. heh. he also is one of the people that puts in a lot of work setting up this arachnid gathering in texas i went to once.
haven't been to those other sites though..will have to check them out.
that viperkeeper guy on youtube is pretty cool. i have a subscription to his videos or whatever they call it on youtube. he has some Atheris videos if you look through them.
doc - that's cool about the trade, snakes are a bit more active and interactive (well not the venomous ones and some non venomous). seemani is a nice looking species, but is kinda a dull tarantula. mine mostly stayed in her burrow. i bought a pretty cool Poecilotheria poster from that michael jacobi guy i mentioned above.
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awesome poster man.
my seemani wasnt that beautyful, dull colored (grey) en quiet bold. It hasnt eaten for three months now so its bound to mold i guess. The vagans has grown pretty damn large and has started to refuse food since yesterday. I now own one spider and one snake and thats enough.........and kickass!
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awesome poster man.
my seemani wasnt that beautyful, dull colored (grey) en quiet bold. It hasnt eaten for three months now so its bound to mold i guess. The vagans has grown pretty damn large and has started to refuse food since yesterday. I now own one spider and one snake and thats enough.........and kickass!
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once a vagans starts refusing food, a molt is on its way. those suckers are food vacuums! glad you kept one spider, i had forgotten about the vagans. your seemani will likely molt into a beautiful blue, black, white, and orange spider. they are incredible after a molt.
bob - P. metallica are not TOO bad for beginers, the basic problems are, arboreals and specifically Poecilotheria, are very fast. Poecilotheria are also known to have potent venom, though are not too defensive compared to many different tarantulas. the one main draw back for P metallica is that they are very expensive because they are still quite rare.
VERY expensive as in a few hundred bucks for a small unsexed one. for a female, you are looking at at least 400 bucks! personally, i'd go with ornata or rufilata. gorgeous spiders, much much cheaper (20-50 bucks for a small one) and are some of the best looking of the genus. |
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meh like two months after i bought my first spider i came across a damn cheap female P.regalis and it was very easy to keep. Just dont fuck with it, make sure to feed it and stare at it when it gets out at night 
definetly not a specie to handle! very quick and relatively venemous.
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i'd probably ditch that substrate for the vagans. big chunks of things like that are a little shifty and less stable for the spider when it walks around. i guess it could be alright..but i'd generally stick with something like coconut fiber (kinda expensive), peat moss, organic (pesticide free  ) potting soil, etc.
also, i can't remember if you knew the sex of that vagans, but from that picture of it after it had grown, it looks like you have a mature male there. you should try to find him a girl and mate them.
it's really fun to watch them do their thing...don't get to see tarantulas interact all that often, so it is definitely an exciting event in the hobby of keeping the little bastards.
edit..and the snake looks nice, from what i could see heh. any better pics of it?
shitty news on my snake..my friend that was gonna watch it for me is reenlisting in the navy, so he won't be able to keep it for me..now i have to find someone to sell it to. |
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pity bout the snake.
I have half the old substrate (soil) stacked up at the back and the woody stuff at the front so it can choose it's preferred part of the tank (currently the wooden shelter). I think it's a male aswell, being pretty slim and all. Quiet a pity actually, but I might mate it (how the hell do I find other owners?).
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OOOOON<333 he's fucking cute!!
One day i want a gecko or a random reptile for sure...i fucking love them!
Ok its not a reptile but, im about to get my Siamese kitty, he's fucking cute! ill post pix soon
i dont want to search for it but, is there a thread about all kind animals? (yeah im a bit lazy for now)
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i was at my friend's house today. i heard his brother say "wow, this is the fucking coolest spider ive ever seen." i went over and looked. man, it was wild. i think it had yellow, orange and red in this crazy design. somewhat like a butterfly's design. gave the appearance of 4 legs, since the legs where in groups of two, in a X shape. its body looked like a hard shell, and it was shaped like this:
edit: ive seen smaller ones, but never in this color, or size. ...i'll take the camera next time, and i'll post pics here.
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 THIS IS THE ONE!!!
the one at my friends house has a bigger body than those, and SUCH an amazing design. i cant wait to take my camera over there. I saw the zig zag desing on the web too. although he hadnt done too much of it yet.
do spiders like specific insects, for food? i want to feed this guy some good bugs!!!!!! if my friends brother kills it, i will be fucking pissed.
the day i saw that spider, i saw another cool thing. some type of wasps had made their mud house things in the grooves of some outdoor boots. we lifted them up, and saw a bunch of larvae, and dead catapillars. it was cool to see what its like in there, sort of like the view of an ant farm, and how you can watch all the things they do, and how they do it. |
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they are a really nice looking group of spiders...a hobbyist favorite...well one of them at least.
they'll eat whatever really..just make sure it isn't too big that it could tear the web. i'd say something not bigger than their abdomen. try to find something out away from developed land if it isn't too much of a pain in the ass. you never know what kind of shit bugs get into in and around houses and other buildings.
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thanks. i hope i can take a small container of flies, next time. i once fed a cricket to the biggest spider at my house. it didnt have much trouble wrapping him up. im still pissed i didnt have my camera, the other day . wednesday will probably be when i return. |
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cool, i hope she's still there. if not, just look around..usually there are a bunch of them in the same area if you find one. we had a bunch in our backyard where i used to live. sadly, i haven't seen shit for spiders here at my grandmas house. i did see a little snake today, but it was so quick to go into the bushes, i didn't really get a good enough look to tell what it was.
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As much as I'm terrified of spiders, I still enjoy watching them wrap up their adversaries into their webs. My friends and I threw a gigantic grasshopper into this spiders web and it didn't hesitate to wrap the grasshopper up. That quarrel lasted about 4 seconds. I want to record the next victim we throw into her web.
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tarantulas, for the most part, don't web up their prey...i have seen some of them do it occasionally. sometimes they'll set the food down and web it up...strangely, i've seen them do this then start eating it again right away.  most of the time, they just subdue the prey and eat till it's all finished.
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haha, here's my first snake-escape story!
I was away for the weekend and i asked my house-mate to moist the tank while i was gone. This story is so cliche, but he didn't close the door of the tank properly . My friend told me he heard this sick scream at 1.30 in the morning so he jumped out of bed. The snake was on the stairs climbing up and another (female) house mate stood there petrified. And the snake is like 10" long! HAHAHA
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LO AND BEHOLD! i finally got a pic of the spider. this isnt as focused as i wanted, but it was already getting dark out, by the time i arrived at my friend's house. here he is:
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that whole genus rules. they are easily a favorite amongst people in the hobby of keeping spiders. i'd say, by far, tarantulas are first, then jumping spiders, then either wolf spiders or harvestmen, then orb weavers like those Argiope.
jumpers are the shit. they are the only spiders you can seem to elicit a response from other than running away, biting, or whatnot. if you move your hand near them, you can see their head move and tilt..sorta like a dog. it is the funniest thing (if you are a spider nerd i guess). they have much better sight than all the other spiders.
one of the jumpers, Portia sp., even have developed hunting behavior. they show signs of higher cognitive ability. they feed on other spiders, and will approach spider webs and use a leg to simulate the thrashing about of trapped prey. their body is shaped so weird..it looks like leaf foliage. they sit still and other spiders don't even see them. when the spiders on the web come over to find their "prey" the Portia pounces and gets its meal. very cool genus, just very rare in the hobby.
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haha yea, spiders kick ass! was at my friends house this weekend, unfortunately i left my camera here. there was a large Argiope aurantia right outside one of their windows. there were tons of those "love bugs" in it's web, not sure if they are too small for the spider to want to eat or not.. maybe i'll ask them to take a pic for me.
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Those things venomous at all? I have ones similar looking to those down here but they're usually orange on black and have a more "furry" look to them. They scare the crap out of me. I'm pretty sure I've seen that Argiope Argentata before.
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