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thinking of these pickups....
does anyone have the seymoure Duncan Distortion Mayhem SH-6 Humbucker pair?
heres what guitar center says of them:
Distortion Mayhem Set
A matched pair of SH-6 pickups. SH-6/TB-6 -- The Duncan Distortion™ gives you high output while retaining clarity. A massive ceramic magnet and hot symmetrical coils deliver tremendous power and raw distorted rock sounds.
Im looking for something for a Jackson js30RR.
It is an Alder body with a maple neck and rosewood fretboard.
It has 2 jackson cvr2 humbuckers, but arent crunchy enough.
I want some good driving distortion suitable for everything from Iced Earth to Maiden, to Death/Black Metal, but sounds good with sweeps/solo's as well.
I play through a Crate FXT212.
Thanks!
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2007-01-08, 21:57
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I have a js30 rr! Once I tell you the pick up I installed you'll probably kick me in my balls, but listen. I recently put a $40 dollar Duncan Performer Detonator pickup in the bridge. It sounds crunchy and it actually has some sustain to it, I actually have a real "demonic" sound going on with it right now. It sounds so fuckin' amazing for $40 dollars. I left the neck pickup the CVR, so now when I use both pickups simultaneously it actually sounds good. If you want something cheap that works you should definately try Duncan Performers!
Oh and just a question: Is the pickup selector backwards in your js30?, it is on mine. Just wandering
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2007-01-08, 23:06
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The SD Distortion is probably too bright in an alder bodied guitar. Although, you will probably never get a good crunchy sound, or really any good sound out of that amp. Before you think that your pickups are the weak link I would definitely replace the amp first.
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2007-01-09, 03:19
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The SD Distortion is probably too bright in an alder bodied guitar. Although, you will probably never get a good crunchy sound, or really any good sound out of that amp. Before you think that your pickups are the weak link I would definitely replace the amp first.
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amen. Also, check your pots. If you have humbuckers, its almost essential to get 500k ohm pots to make them sound good.
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-09, 17:59
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well i also have an Ibanez s series. (s470dxqm)
it is a more expensive better sounding guitar that sounds great with the amp.
Getting a new amp is out of the question right now anyway.
so for the jackson js30rr i think ill go with a dimarzio X2N at the bridge and maybe a evolution at the neck.
I juat wanna beef up this lil jackson!
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2007-01-09, 20:55
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i have a sd distortion in the bridge position of my guitar, maple neckrtru and alder body,
yeh it pretty bright, i dont like it to play death etmal, but it works realy great for blackmetal... but its not realy bassy, hard to get nice pamlmutes from it (not impossible though) high output, gives pretty much gain and clarity... isnt too good for cleans
EDIT isnt the x2n realy bright and harsh??
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2007-01-09, 21:03
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EDIT isnt the x2n realy bright and harsh??
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Im not sure, I used the dimarzio pickup selector to choose it.
If so I may still be looking 
maybe a super 3 heres what is said about the S3 on Dimarzio site
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Tech Talk: The Super 3™ has been getting the reputation for being a real workhorse for heavy metal. The top end is very dark (especially for a high-output pickup), but the low end isn't real muddy, so you can turn both bass and treble controls up on your amp to get both scream and crunch.
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2007-01-09, 21:16
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i dno sounds good, but still these guys are trying to sell you whatever they can, so i wouldnt believe to much of what they say... doesnt dimarzio have these eq specs on their site like.
bass 6 mid 7 treb 5 or sumtin like that for each pickup... maybe read trough some pickup thread on the site, there are plenty threads on pu's so i guess you should find sumtin.
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2007-01-10, 00:26
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avoid the super 3. Its soooo muddy it makes the baby jesus cry.
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-11, 17:25
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hmm the js 30rr is f spaced isnt it?
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2007-01-11, 18:05
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Does it have a tremolo?
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2007-01-11, 18:20
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2007-01-11, 19:42
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I'd have to recommend a Dimarzio tonezone/super 2 combo for alder.
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2007-01-11, 20:34
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I'd have to recommend a Dimarzio tonezone/super 2 combo for alder.
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-11, 20:43
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super 2 at the neck tonezone at bridge huh?
just checked them out on the site, both look awesome, they will fit into the guitar right?
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2007-01-12, 00:02
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Is the tonezone muddy at all?
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2007-01-12, 02:23
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Well if it dosent have a tremolo than there is no reason it would be F spaced now is there? 
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2007-01-12, 13:04
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Actually just FYI, the JS30 series Jacksons are not true alder bodies. They actually use cedro(an eastern wood from the same family tree, but cheaper than real alder).
The Tonezone is not muddy at all, just brown sounding(meaning it never gets super trebley). Works wonders in super thin sounding guitars, but by no means will it make a mahogany guitar muddy. I would personally reccomend the Tonezone + PAF Pro in the neck. I'm replacing the EMG's in my Ironbird with those sometime soon(I already have them, just nothing to solder it in with). It's not as hot as the Super Distortion and nowhere close to the X2N but it can still get very brutal.
The Super Distortion is not a bright pickup... have you seen the EQ curve on those things? They have a ton of bass, and tons of death metal bands use em in the bridge(Suffo, Deicide, many others), and it's not muddy at all in most guitars.
I had an X2N in my JS30 Kelly and I fuckin LOVED how it sounded. Tight and brutally raw, but very very clear and responsive. Tons of midrange, with a bit of trebley sizzle but it never gets harsh unless you boost too much treble on your amp. Doesn't feedback at all either, unlike the EMG's in my guitar. This is how metal bridge pickups should sound. It kills for leads too because of the tons of midrange it has, so it never gets thin as you go up the frets, and harmonics really jump out of the thing.
But yes don't worry about swapping pickups until you get an AMP that you like the sounds coming out of it. Then worry about tweaking small things like your pickups. They're not going to change your tone substantially.
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about the neck pickups (super 2 vs paf pro) keep in mind what you're going to be using them for. If you want to do primarly cleans/shred, get the PAF, if you're guna use it for rhythms, i'd say super 2. Super 2 is reallly high gain, and fuckin loud. You'll notice it will probably overpower any other pickup in sheer volume.
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-12, 15:18
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Neck pickups shouldn't really be used for rythm if you care about clarity...
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2007-01-12, 16:50
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Neck pickups shouldn't really be used for rythm if you care about clarity...
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you've never heard a super 2 have you...
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-12, 17:36
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Yes. Regardless any humbucker in a neck pos. should not be used for rythm as far as metal goes...
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2007-01-13, 00:47
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Is the tonezone muddy at all?
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Not one bit. Very tight.
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