I know what the general opinion is about slipknot, but what about mudvayne and disturbed?

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I love trollin'. It's fun as fucking hell.

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Why not call the thread 'Mudvayne and Disturbed' if they're the bands you want to talk about?

I barely know what they sound like, to be honest. If they're great I must be missing out.

I was thinking that, too.

I think Mudvayne is losing it's edge but they're still alright. Everyone here knows (Or I think everyone does) that Disturbed is my favorite band.

And I doubt too many people here have anything else nice to say about either band. Nu-metal is frowned upon here. It'd be like having a gay pride fest at the Vatican.

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ive been meaning to tell you something for a long time. my friends mom's favorite band is Disturbed, and shes in her 40s.

i liked mudvayne's first album when i was a "kid", now i dont. i never liked disturbed. and since the thread is titled slipknot (!), i figure i can throw in that i think they are terrible.

Well i like Slipknot....I think their music is pretty good. But again personal perseverances.

I also like Mudvayne....The band has a lot of talent, and they have some crushing riffs at moments.

Disturbed....I don't care for.

I'm just not into "O i hate Nu-metal, because everyone else does" that i feel most of you follow around here. Keyword "MOST OF YOU".

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Mudvayne is a good nu metal band with musicians that know what the hell they're doing compared to most nu metal bands, so they're good in my book. And they're becoming better writers with each album.

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They all suck!!

i like slipknot (only nu nu-metal band i listen to)

but distubed that guy just ads weird scream like things in every song it gets boring so disturbed sucks and mud whatever weird

I generally dont listen to much nu metal in general, but I occassionally listen to Slipknot's Iowa (not so much lately though). I never really cared for Mudvayne and I like Disturbed to an extent. So i guess overall, i dont care too much for any of the bands you mentioned. But hey, to each's own.

i like some of disturbed's later stuff, and have always been a fan of mudvayne, very talented band, their bassist is nuts.

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Slipknot sucks... Mudvayne sucks... I enjoy Disturbed but do not listen to them much. That's all folks!

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my creative writing had this thing about how we critiqued our classmates writing, we were not allowed to say "that sucked" or anything where we were laying down a judgement of that sort, he called it playing the "great god of writing"

we have a similar problem here, people here, especially the nubs, like to play the "great god of music" role and just go "they suck" or whatever, without giving any sort of backup, instead of "i dont like this band because their music doesnt appeal to me," which would be an intelligent comment. i guess that may be asking a bit much. and just incase someone wants to pull up old comments i have made, call me a hypocrit, and whatnot, this is something i just remembered, so :P

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Thank you!! That's music that little 12 year olds listen to to piss off their parents, it's terrible!

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Deicide/Darkthrone/Cannibal Corpse would piss of their parents much, much more. Do they suck for the same reason?

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If those 12-year-olds actually knew what deicide was, then yeah it would piss off parents too. But that's not the purpose of those bands. It seems all these nu-metal guys just want to cash in on teen angst. Deicide has no teen angst, just satan.

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Deicide are aweful to me. Their music cant appeal to my neurons one bit. So if nu-metal is cashing in on teens, then what is deicide doing? Cashing in on shock value? Arn't alot of teens buying their Cd's?

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For once in my life I make a post thats not ten lines long and I get bashed for it. When someone says "It sucks" you know its their opinion and not some universal fact. It's just boring nu-metal anyways, ugh.

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Really! I'll just leave it at the fact that I don't like slipknot, disturbed, and mudyane. I don't dig the music or the shit lyrics. But I'm not some fuckin' music Nazi, metal isn't even my favorite genre of music, ever hear of malice mizer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjI4e3QEoPQ

I'd take that over just about any metal band any day.
Sure they look gay, but they sound cool, i'd loveto mix that with heavier music some day.

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Oh my, j-rock does freak me out sometimes. Sounds interesting, haha.

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Dude, if you really like them they have a lot of darker tunes, it is VERY good music. Add a little death metal to it and it'd be great! Just youtube them they have like 500 videos.

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Oh man, the videos of them are creeping me out. I'm a little afraid

The songs are very strange and unique. I like certain parts of them but I can't STAND that japanese singing style... ill have to check this again later

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Yeah, the singing is a little funky but still...

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relax bro, i wasnt pointing that directly at you, it was a general statement, you just sparked the thought in my mind. i just dont appreciate it when people dont elaborate on things, "it sucks" or "they are gay" show a lack of intelligence, in my opinion, because of the simple fact that there is no thought put into it. i am not saying the person is un-intelligent, but that the posts lack intelligence : )

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Blah, alright, it's cool, I usually avoid saying it anyways... But... nu-metal. Those bands just don't spark any other words in my mind. I saw a guy with a huge Korn sticker on the back of their car today and it nearly made me

I think it's mostly the attitude of the bands moreso than the music itself that makes me hate it. Not to say that the music is anything original or exciting. Disturbed has some catchy songs, but most other bands can't even hold my interest.

IS THAT GUD ENUF 4 U?

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Mudvaynes first album slays, the second one is not as good, and everything after that totally blows. They went from blazing a trail to following the pack. Disturbed just irritates me. And Slipknot is, well, slipknot. Anyone thats gets the inlays "HATE" put on their guitar is a fuckin tool so yeah....

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slipknot, mudvayne and disturbed are shit. kids love em, i dont. its all about marketing these days. the music is also derivative at best. boring.

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Yeah I think it's really shit that kids can find a connection to someone else through music. Man, whenever a kid quotes Slipknot lyrics that heshe feels heshe can relate to, I get pissed off!! How DARE they be able to take comfort in knowing that they aren't alone in this shitworld! Little dicks.

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absolutely. bands should be responsible enough to spread the message of selfharm to kids, and clearly, touchy feely lyrics isnt gonna do that, only the heaviest and most mind bendingly subversive music is going to accomplish that, namely, top 40 chart toppers and records you can find in a $2 basket.

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ive seen more metal bands promote selfharm than any of the numetal bands. so im not sure what you think youre talking about.

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[QUOTE=CannibalXampire]ive seen more metal bands promote selfharm than any of the numetal bands.QUOTE]

that is what i mean. instead of drowning in tears and connecting or whatever, do something about it. shoot up, cut yourself, start a brawl, fuck whatever, just do something. other than wear makeup.

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haha oh man, so controversial! and just so blunt and uncaring! too cool(uncool???) for me man.

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Mudvanyze3 have a good bassist. Although perhaps he would be a lot worse if he came off the heroin? I don't like the band though.

Disturbed, Slipknot? M@gg0+$ G(0@tZ.

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Yes, because they on on Roadrunner.

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I loathe Roadrunner They're one of the major suppliers of shite music.

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mudvayne-1 good song
slipknot-few good songs
disturbed-i hate the band but some good songs. hate his voice!

...haha, what?

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Deicide aren't on Roadrunner anymore. They chose to leave because they were being assholes, Earache published their last record. And uh... Deicide aren't exactly a commercially successful band by any means.

I don't like nu metal, it's far too childish. It could've been a mildly entertaining subgenre if the mass media hadn't come along and blown it out of proportion and made it into a meaningless trend. I can't find anything remotely meaningful in their lyrics and the music itself is dull and uninteresting. It's because of blockhead bands like those that the whole metal genre gets stereotyped into a bunch of unhygenic unreasonably angsty ignorant preteens too.

As you can see, I have a better arguement than the stereotypical "slipknot sux cuz they are c0mmercial!11one! Hail NSbM!!1one!". I could care less if they're a big MTV-whoring band or not.

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Yeah, that confused me a bit, too. Ryan isn't on heroin..... is he?

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Well...in my opinion disturbed are alright.
another nu-metal band I listen sometimes is 12 Stones.

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Hmm, I remember when they first started hearing him and the vocalist did a bunch of heroin. Maybe I just got that information from misinformed friends? Probably.


PAY NO ATTENTION TO ME.

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I like Mudvaynes music alot. I think the guitarist needs to write some catchier hooks than he does. The drummer is totally badass. The singer has some killer fuckin vocals! He's got the cleans vox mastered and his agressive tone pounds! Seriously, if the guitarist would emulate more of the metal style of playing and sound, Mudvayne would be totally badass.

Disturbed is decent. I like their older stuff ALOT more than their newer stuff.

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Heroin is too cool for them.

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Ryan wasn't with them when they first started out, I believe. Someone named Shawn Barclay played bass before Ryan.

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Korn are the only nu metal band worth worrying about.

Listen to first 2 albums, awesome!

This is true, I have the one album that they did with the different bass player. Kinda strange production and tones but the bass is pretty rockin. I prefer Ryan though, hes pretty unique.

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I hate to say it, but those two are the only thing worth anything to nu-metal. I havent listened to either in about 6 or 7 years, but they were good when they came out. Gay as shit now.

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Y'mean "Beginning of all things to End?" Second favorite album. Raw sound.

Is it me, or were some of the songs recorded live performances? on some of them I heard people cheering.

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Yeah I meant with that L.D 50 album or whatever it's called.

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Pretty much all the foundational nu metal albums (which are basically just Chaos A.D. and the first two Korn albums by my lights) are worthwhile to some degree. Not their fault the majority of it's unlistenable.

I found the 2nd Korn album a little weak and rushed(and a tad childish with the Adidas track) I actually found myself enjoying some of the Untouchables album, mayhaps because it sounded a tad different and everybody hated it Plus I think Roots also had an influence on the nu-metal sound/genre maybe more than Chaos?

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i remember when roots and korn first came out and thinking this might be a genuine new direction for guitar based music. i was excited by this believe it or not. but then it devolved to shit with 50 style stealing clone bands rushed onto an eager market by greedy record labels.
then again, the same thing happened with thrash in the 80s, and death metal in the early 90s, and the 2nd wave of blackmetal in the mid 90s... should have known better.

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so basically every band and genre sucks and thats all you need to know!

yup, you can hammer that home.

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Thrash .

Yea mostly ever type of music ends up being flushed out due to over crowding. Maybe thats why the record companys are signing less and less bands over the past few years.

I'm still waiting for rap to die, and becoming impatient.

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I never listened to Roots much - probably haven't ever heard it the whole way through at once - so I really can't say anything about it, but I still find Chaos A.D., with which I'm very familiar, to be an early and important album in the nu metal sound. I haven't listened to a Korn CD since before I first came here, so if the second album is worse than the first, please forgive me for not remembering.

And it shouldn't be a surprise that in various genres, as in every other aspect of life, a few people are excellent and the majority are mediocre and derivative.

To tell u the truth I don't care for any of em anymore. Slipknot is way to overated. And they all sold the fuck out. I do like the old stuff from all of em like Iowa, LD.50, and the disturbed with down with the sickness on it whatever its called, but the shit they put out in recent years just sucks.

the sellouts selling out?

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Y'can't really call it selling out since they stayed with the same crappy style of playing.

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i just listened to slipknot's self titled in my friends car while highly intoxicated. nostalgia, embarassament, a lot of head bangin, some semen...........these were just a few of the things/emotions that took place shortly after.


"fuck it all, fuck this world, fuck everything that you stand for!" HAHA. to be in 7th grade and so naive...

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Slipknot SUCKXZORXZZ!!!!1!!!ONE!!1oNE!1

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Yeah, I put on a slipknot CD a couple of years ago, having not heard them for about 5 years or so, thinking it might be a nice little nostalgia trip. I found it very dull, and the lyrics are so teen angsty, it was really quite amusing.

Today I found a mixed cd I made in yr8. It had Slipknot, Devolved, Blood Duster and Pig Destroyer. I haven't heard slipknot in years so I gave it a listen. I can't believe how shitty and juvenile it is and that I actually enjoyed them.

Well, at least I was into decent stuff at the time and I guess it just shows that nu-metal is just a phase that leads onto much better things, with death metal and grindcore winning favour

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i still think that slipknot, amongst all the plain, repetitive riffs, had the occasional cool riff, like the intro to surfacing, i thought that high pitched riff, while simple was really cool.

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I personally see nothing wrong with nu-metal as a whole. It's just the majority of shitty bands in the genre that make it look bad. There's some decent ones, and then a thousand rip-offs.

Another thing that makes it look bad is how much it becomes associated with metal when it isn't metal. It's a fusion between hip hop, rap, some industrial, and metal, but mostly has alternative influences rather than metal. Then y'know what it leads to;

"SLipknot iz teh total metalzors."
"Slipcock isn't metal! It's nu-metal!"
"Nu-metals for emos n pussys!"
"Exactly."

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disturbed blows
mudvayne is pretty cool

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You sir, are totaly wrong. Nu-metal is bad. Very bad.
However, you're not a bad person for liking it.

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I know. I'm a bad person for other reasons, reasons in the vein of "She was asking for it."

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Mudvayne's L.D.50 album isnt bad, they have some good riffs, clever idea's and the bass playing and tone is great!

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As Seth Putnam put it: "Disturbed should be playing at a comedy club, their gay midget jewbag singer is fucking hilarious."

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Making a good point? That sure threw me off guard. The dude is right, too.

There are already threads on Disturbed and Mudvayne, so needless to say, this worthless pile of congealing waste will be shut down.

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