Entombed on Left Hand Path. It's the heaviest, sickest guitar tone I have ever heard. It's so ranchy. In the booklet they said "Well it was a real easy set up. Everyone thinks it's some huge amp. It's a 40 Watt Peavey with a Distortion pedal on it. And everything is turned up to 10."

LOL I know I kind of just answered my own question. But I was wondering are there any suggestions on how I could get this sound through a larger amp? Like I was going to get a Marshall JCM900 but ever since I heard this guitar sound I fell in love with it. So I am going to be looking into Peavey's now since they have a really dirty sound. I have an Old DOD Death Metal distortion pedal and I also just got a Rat pedal and they both work wonders on my amp. The DOD is very close to the sound I want I was just wondering what head would be best to go with it?

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jcm 800 or 5150 with a boss hm-2 heavy metal pedal as a boost for the amp distortion.

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HM-2's can be had real cheap on ebay too. I would still recommend going with something more like a JCM900 as far as amps go.

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i got mine for 12$... you could probably find one for under 50.

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Hmmm maybe a JCM900. But out of Peavey what would be a good head. I want to stay away from the 5150 personally. I don't really like it at all. I was thinking maybe the XXX with the MT-2 or DOD Death Metal yay or nay?

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I say nay, if you are looking for that old school DM kind of sound, the XXX is too modern.

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Modern, and doesnt need a distortion pedal in front of it.

Get some decent solid state amp.

Ie: Randall Cyclone or Warhead
Ampeg VH140/SS140/SS70.

Those are probably the most reliable tight high gain amps in existence.

Or a Sansamp PSA-1 preamp and a Tech 21/VHT/Carvin or other high quality solid state poweramp. You can't get any more tight buzzsaw Entomed-like brutal than that.

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What series are those Randalls? I tried out a Randall V2 and MTS in the store the other day and I thought they sounded great.

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The Cyclone and Warhead are their own series.

The new Randalls you can find in stores are meh. They're essentially tube amps with replaceable tube preamp modules. Some others are tube pre/SS poweramp, which is the essentially the same type of garbage as the Marshall AVT/Valvestate. Stay away from those.

The old RG combo series were pretty decent, but the Cyclone and Warhead heads and combos are a bit more serious amps.

But the Ampeg VH140C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All other solid state metal amps.

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Didn't Chuck Schuldiner use a Valvestate?

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Yes, doesn't mean they're not lame amps.

Edit: Actually old valvestates aint THAT bad, but they're still crap compared to good all-SS or all-tube amps. The AVT(modern version of valvestate) is absolute gobshite though.

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If you want that sound, you probably should go for the JCM-800 with a Tube Screamer or Boss OD/Dist pedal in front of it.

No point in buying a relatively expensive modern high gain amp just to make it sound like that.

My thoughts anyway.

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Better yet a JCM-900, that's higher gain than the 800. Obituary used them, their sound is somewhat similar to dismember's.

But you only get that style of tight sounds out of solid state.

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Alright I am going to use a
Marshall JCM900 head
Peavey 6505 Cabinet
with a
Proco Rat
I was also thinking a VOX cabinet might be good also.

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Great setup, although im not sure about the 6505 cabinet. I would either go with a high end marshall cab or check out avatar's new vintage 4x12's at avatarspeakers.com. They are some seriously badass cabs and you could get an X pattern or Celestion V30's and G12T-75's for a fuckin brooootal DM sound.

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you wont get that sound without an hm-2. Proco, DOD, Maxon and Ibanez pedals wont do it.

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+1. Great setup. Lame cab maybe. Avatars are awesome and cheap. Some other cheap alternatives are 2nd hand vintage 30 equipped Crate or Ampeg 4x12's on ebay, can be had for as little as 200$.

Or a beatup Marshall 1960A/B 4x12 cab. Now stop asking how to get oldschool death metal tone, you're already considering the most ACCURATE rig out there!

bleeding, if Obituary got their sound out of a JCM900 + a Proco, he doesn't need a HM-2 or other fizzy "metal" pedal.

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not fizzy at all... infact the distortion has almost no grain to it. Its just really nasal, which added to amp distortino gets you Entombed chainsaw grind tone. Old Celtic frost uses an hm-2, infact i think all their tone comes from it...

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If you have the same recording gear they had in that studio where they recorded Left Hand Path, buy the same pedal and Peavey amp, you'll get the same sound if you were bent on nailing it. It's not going to sound as great in person/live situation though, so invest in something else if you really care about tone. Nailing highly studio-processed sounds is nearly impossible.

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i thought we were talking late 80's entombed before studios were digitalized and bands actually recorded their amps so they could reproduce it live. Thats, afterall how entombed and dismember all get that tone live... the hm-2

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If only everyone would realize this. I would bet that more than half of the negative reviews all over the web of higher end amps are because the tones dont sound just like their favorite record. All the post production completely changes the overall guitar tone. I mean I typically dont like Mesa Rectifiers at all but Opeth used them on Ghost Reveries and they sound great because of the production.

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The sound on their first records(LHP, Clandestine) is all studio magic. You don't need digital studio gear to supe up a guitar tone, they used loads of tube mic pre's, compressors, other sound processors, etc. back then to shape the sound in studios. Their guitar tones do not sound exactly the same in a live situation, guarrenteed.

It's really a bad way to assess an amp/gear by listening to a CD, especially when it's one that was recorded on a medium-to-high budget(the studio where Entombed recorded had almost as much good reputation as Morrisound back then). That really masks the genuine tone of an amp in person.

I mean you could take a Roland cube's sound, process the fuck out of it in a high end studio for corporate-rock bands, and it would sound better than a bloke putting up a computer microphone to his Engl Savage stack.

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Tell me this isnt the tone.

All recorded Without studio magic, you can lick my balls now

My guitar --> My hm-2 --> My marshall.
Recorded with laptop microphone through microsoft sound recorder.

eat it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/11007851/hm2.mp3.html

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Doesn't really sound anything like it Left Hand Path, nice try though. At most the clipping/character of the distortion is there, but it's not anywhere near the sound on a record.

God damn that pedal sounds worse than I imagined, I didn't think it was so nasally.

Btw you're pickups are too close to the strings, the magnetic pull is making em "wobbly".

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thats dismember and bloodbath smartypants.

I did it by putting hm-2 into my crunch channel and halving the gain on the amp, and putting about 20% gain on the pedal, and max volume on the pedal. The only reason its so nasally is because i dimed the lows and the highs, it doesnt get nasally until about 2:30 oclock on the high knob.

and i dont hear this wobblyness you speak of.

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Sustain an E powerchord and you'll see what I meant by "wobbliness".

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