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Old 2006-12-19, 23:31
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FYLOD LIKE TREMELOS

I think there are around 3 differnt types of flyod rose like tremelos

flyod rose
Edge
any others?

and what are the differnce between the edge briges agnist the flyod roses because all the ibanez use edge
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Old 2006-12-19, 23:58
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I think there are around 3 differnt types of flyod rose like tremelos

flyod rose
Edge
any others?

and what are the differnce between the edge briges agnist the flyod roses because all the ibanez use edge


Kahlers
Steinbergers.
Viger.
Lo TRS Trem.

The difference is the edges are smaller and you don't have to cut the ball end of the string off like you do in a Floyd.

The best tremelo system out there is Steinberger for obvious reasons.
Kahlers are better than both Floyds and Edges IMO but I like all the systems. The only one I hate is the Edge Pro II.
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Old 2006-12-20, 00:00
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Kahlers aren't FR-style trems, they're Kahler trems.

The myriad of licensed versions out there. The best ones are Schaller(obviously) and Gotoh's rendition of the OFR. Some claim the Gotoh is even better than the Schallers, which are already a little better than the OFR's.

Edge bridges don't use saddle blocks(tiny metal blocks that are pressed against the strings).

Some Floyd Rose/Schaller trems(like the Lo Pro or FRIII) have a replaceable knife edge for when it wears down, also sustains really well.

I have a Schaller Floyd on my charvel, Original Floyd on my BC Rich, and Ibanez Edge 7 on my Universe. I love them all. I rather like the look and feel of the Original more though. I wanna try a lo pro sometime.
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Old 2006-12-20, 00:16
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will i inconter the same probloms has all the others if i want a inbanez with the Edge

i read in wikipedia that "The RG Tremolo's Floyd Rose system are named Edge III and Edge Pro II, which are infamous for "wearing out" and becoming unusable after a few months"
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Old 2006-12-20, 00:38
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Moreso probably. OFR's and Schallers last for ages.
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Old 2006-12-20, 01:26
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Kahlers aren't FR-style trems, they're Kahler trems.



Yup, and last years and years.
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Old 2006-12-20, 01:28
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so i sould not buy a ibanez over a jackson....that pisses me off cuz i want 2 hums and a single coil
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Old 2006-12-20, 02:02
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I wouldn't spend money on a fylod or a flyod rose. I think your money will be better spent on English classes.
 
Old 2006-12-20, 02:19
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so i sould not buy a ibanez over a jackson....that pisses me off cuz i want 2 hums and a single coil

the soloist does come in hsh configuration
 
Old 2006-12-20, 02:55
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I wouldn't spend money on a fylod or a flyod rose. I think your money will be better spent on English classes.


that was pointless....


i dont want a soloist becuase its way to much money.
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Old 2006-12-20, 03:15
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...another thread on ''what is the best tremolo system''.....
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Old 2006-12-20, 04:05
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The Ibanez S series guitar have a ZR tremolo system (zero resistance). I have a S 520 EX with it and it's super smooth because it uses ball bearings instead of knife edges. Its supposed to last forever too because it should never wear out like edges. I love it stays in tune forever it seems like.
 
Old 2006-12-20, 10:38
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Yup, and last years and years.

That wasn't my point, I'm saying they're different style trems, not FR's.

ALL tremolo systems will wear down with use at some point, so they require some care and maintenence, like using that GHS ceramic paste that creates a frictionless barrier on all the metal contacts on your guitar(nut, trem pivot screws, Tuneomatic saddles, etc.).

If you go with a good old Original Floyd or Schaller I guarrentee you it'll outlive you. You could go pick up a beatup oldass early 80's guitar with an OFR and it would still stay in tune better than most of the licensed trem equipped guitars in the 300-800$ range. My OFR stays in tune for months, as does my Schaller.

Hence why I sugges getting something like a Jackson DK2M, old Charvel, etc. and upgrading the bridge, they're like 150$ a pop.
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Old 2006-12-20, 12:22
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You could get a Kramer. They are cheap and have Original Floyds I belive.
Check em out.
http://www.musicyo.com/brandland.asp?dept_id=1
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Old 2006-12-20, 13:10
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No, the new Kramers sold at Musicyo don't have OFR's except for the USA series(that cost 800$+), they wouldn't sell for under 200$ if that were the case.

However old 80's Kramer Pacers and Focuses came with OFR's stock, not all of them but many did and can be had for cheap on ebay. If you like their ugly deformed 80's strat look...
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Old 2006-12-21, 00:02
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there is another tremolo called bendmaster deluxe, they are pretty cool actually, I have one on my westone. This guitar is older than me and the you can beat the living daylights out of the tremolo without it coming out of tune.
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Old 2006-12-21, 06:44
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Kahlers aren't FR-style trems, they're Kahler trems.



Actually, kahler did have a floyd-style trem. It was called the Kahler Spyder. This is the trem that made it on a lot of Fender's "Heavy Metal" strats (24 fret bolt on with either a maple or rosewood board and came in either H or HSS config). Great trem, just hard to find replacement parts for it.
 
Old 2006-12-21, 09:38
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^So fuck that.
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Old 2006-12-21, 20:00
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lol...Just adding to the list.

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