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Old 2006-12-06, 01:19
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Cab to go with my Peavey XXX head

I recently ordered a Peavey XXX head. Its replacing my old marshall MG100DFX combo amp (i cant wait until it gets here haha). My question is, what is a good cab to go along with the head. My favorite type of music is metal, mainly thrash metal. some of my Favorite bands are megadeth, metallica (primarily the earlier songs), slayer, testament, iron maiden, nevermore, kreator, arch enemy, Alice in chains, death, pantera, opeth, immortal and the list goes on!

Im currently using a schecter C-1 hellraiser with EMG 81/85. Im wondering whether the XXX cab that goes along with the head is a good choice or if there is somthing better out there? One thing about the peavey XXX cab is its pretty cheap but in general id just like some of your opinions.

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Old 2006-12-06, 04:55
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marshall 1960... cant go wrong there... might i suggest you take your head to a shop so you can make sure you like the speakers...
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Old 2006-12-06, 11:14
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I can't say much for Peavey cabs, but I haven't heard great things about them.

You're best bet is to get a basic 2nd hand vintage 30 celestion equipped cab as they're so inexpensive. www.avatarcabinets.com sells some v30/your speaker choice 4x12's for 380$ + shipping now(!). Marshall 1960's or JCM cabs(both v30 equipped) go from 250-500$ depending on condition 2nd hand.

Or if you wanna spend a bit more try and hunt down a Framus 4x12, they're 500-600$.

Btw nice gtr.
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Old 2006-12-06, 11:32
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Hell yeah I love my C-1 Classic too, I didn't know they made a 'darker' version with EMG's though. As for a cab, both these dudes have great suggestions... as a player whose 1960 Marshall cab has piggybacked many amps, it never fails to deliver. Just make sure whatever you get, that the speakers are good.
 
Old 2006-12-06, 11:44
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Yeah don't invest on anything that doesn't have commonly used speakers like Celestion v30's or GK's etc. or some Eminences of some sort, it's just a bad idea. Especially if they lied about the wattage rating on your cab, then you go and confidently crank it and end up blowing the speakers and your amp's power output transformer because it doesn't have a sufficient load! This of course ignoring that the cab may sound like farty crap.
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Old 2006-12-06, 16:09
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Thanks for the quick responses guys.

The schecter C-1 is an awesome guitar i really like it. My only complaint is the neck is a bit thick but other then that its very comfortable to play and quite affordable!

Im no expert on gear (why i came here for advice in the first place) but is the marshall cab youre referring to this one?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...72&src=3SOSWXXA

Thanks again for the help!
 
Old 2006-12-06, 19:17
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I recently ordered a Peavey XXX head. Its replacing my old marshall MG100DFX combo amp (i cant wait until it gets here haha). My question is, what is a good cab to go along with the head. My favorite type of music is metal, mainly thrash metal. some of my Favorite bands are megadeth, metallica (primarily the earlier songs), slayer, testament, iron maiden, nevermore, kreator, arch enemy, Alice in chains, death, pantera, opeth, immortal and the list goes on!

Im currently using a schecter C-1 hellraiser with EMG 81/85. Im wondering whether the XXX cab that goes along with the head is a good choice or if there is somthing better out there? One thing about the peavey XXX cab is its pretty cheap but in general id just like some of your opinions.

Thanks alot.

what country are you in? and whats youre spending limit?
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Old 2006-12-06, 19:23
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I'd say either a Marshall cab or a Vader cab.
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Old 2006-12-06, 19:34
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Im looking to spend $500-600
 
Old 2006-12-06, 20:35
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vader cabs fo sho. their tight and have hella lot headroom
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Old 2006-12-06, 22:55
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Nah screw Vader cabs, I'd only reccomend something like that for absurdly high wattage valve(150W+) or SS(300W+) amps. I'm sure they're great with those eminences but you wouldn't be taking advantage of everything the cab has to offer(like me with my 60W tube head and 400W cab). And Vader cabs are geared for brutal death metal players, so the cab will have no character whatsoever and he may or may not like that.

For 600$, get yourself a Framus cab. All v30 cab, handles 240W(although the advertise it as 200W which is incorrect). They come in steel/aluminum front panels too in case you hate vintage-y looking poo brown cloth.
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Old 2006-12-07, 01:36
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Anywhere that i can find a framus in the US? I did a search on Ebay and somone was selling a couple with the aluminum/shiny plate grill you talked about, but the guy wanted over 1000 for it i think. I definately cant afford that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Framus-Cobra-Ca...1QQcmdZViewItem

Is the marshall cab you referred to earlier a Marshall 1960A 4x12 Angled Cabinet? This one has 75 watt speakers i think though for a total of 300 watts.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...72&src=3SOSWXXA
 
Old 2006-12-07, 01:37
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Like i said earlier, I dont know a ton about gear, sorry for all the questions.

Thanks again for help
 
Old 2006-12-07, 01:56
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Any cab with vintage 30 speakers will do you nothing but good, they're the standard for a reason. You might be looking at a marshall cab with GT75 or something speakers, different but also nice, but I'd personally sggest v30 cabs.

Yeah screw the plate Framus', but check out their standard cab it's awesome.
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Old 2006-12-07, 03:08
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I can't say much for Peavey cabs, but I haven't heard great things about them.

You're best bet is to get a basic 2nd hand vintage 30 celestion equipped cab as they're so inexpensive. www.avatarcabinets.com sells some v30/your speaker choice 4x12's for 380$ + shipping now(!). Marshall 1960's or JCM cabs(both v30 equipped) go from 250-500$ depending on condition 2nd hand.

Or if you wanna spend a bit more try and hunt down a Framus 4x12, they're 500-600$.

Btw nice gtr.


Bro the 1960s are not v30 equipped.

But holy fuck why didn't anybody ever alert me of this fucking company before. I just went to their website and these cabs are cheap as fuck! I wonder how much quality the cabs are. Although i'm not seeing any slant cabs which basically makes them useless to me.
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Old 2006-12-07, 03:40
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1960's have celestion G12t-75's... go for about 700-800
1960C's have celestion greenbacks (G12M-25)... go from 900-1000
1960V's have marshall/celestion vintage 70's (claim to be v30's, but are 70 watts instead of 30)... 900-1100 depending on how much a dick the seller is

mind you, these are all brand new storefront prices... MSRP is never ever used.

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some places will offer these cabs for about 50-100 less than i posted them... but those are like discount stores... like Steves Music in Toronto and Ottawa!
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In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
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Old 2006-12-07, 05:24
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Nah screw Vader cabs, I'd only reccomend something like that for absurdly high wattage valve(150W+) or SS(300W+) amps. I'm sure they're great with those eminences but you wouldn't be taking advantage of everything the cab has to offer(like me with my 60W tube head and 400W cab). And Vader cabs are geared for brutal death metal players, so the cab will have no character whatsoever and he may or may not like that.

i wouldnt judge a cab by it's powerhandling... my EA 6x12 can handle 720w. and both my heads are 100w. and ya know what? sounds amazing.

on a side note i know jack shit about vader cabs... so you may be right about them not being so great. but i doubt the power handling has much to do with it.

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1960V's have marshall/celestion vintage 70's (claim to be v30's, but are 70 watts instead of 30)

vintage 30's are 60w speakers.
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Old 2006-12-07, 08:57
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Thanks alot for the help man, I found this laney on ebay with vintage celestion 30s, will this work with the peavey XXX and be a good idea? i dont know anything about laney and if it is a good brand or not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LANEY-TT412...1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks
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Laney makes good stuff, never played their cabs tho. Dunno how they compare to other v30 cabs. Crate Blue Voodoo cabs are also v30 equipped, inexpensive(200-300$) and come in regular and slant. Ampeg also made v30 guitar cabinets that cost about the same, and they probably sound amazing. I'll let someone else discuss laney cabs because I don't know much about them.
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Old 2006-12-07, 16:11
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laney makes quality shit. I would go for it if the price was right. If it sounds to flubby to you, open it up, take epoxy to all the inside edges, and load the thing with egg-carton foam, and then replace the wires with some high gauge speaker wire... that mod will make it sound like a mesa
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Old 2006-12-07, 23:41
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Dude it aint gonna make that much of a difference, you won't make a 500$ cab sound like a 1200$ one.

But it's an interesting mod to say the least, but just make sure it already sounds AWESOME stock, then worry about modding it. Otherwise sell it and get something better, not much use in polishing a turd.
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Old 2006-12-08, 05:07
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Bro the 1960s are not v30 equipped.

But holy fuck why didn't anybody ever alert me of this fucking company before. I just went to their website and these cabs are cheap as fuck! I wonder how much quality the cabs are. Although i'm not seeing any slant cabs which basically makes them useless to me.


Just a note about that, I just received a Premier 2x12 from Avatar and it is a pretty fuckin solid cab. I was extremely impressed with the build quality and you cant beat the choice of speakers. Im thinking about getting another to couple with a different head for a badass stereo rig.
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Old 2006-12-08, 11:13
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How much are they?

I've been thinkin of gettin a Framus 2x12" but avatars are interesting, they just don't ship out of the US atm unfortuately.
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Old 2006-12-09, 17:44
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I looked into the avatar cabinets. They seem like a really sweet deal, $380 for a 4x12 with v30s. Only thing i dont like is the cab that comes with the 380 deal has an ugly brown vintage-like cover on the front, but i think i can deal with that haha.

Question i have now is most half stacks i see have a slanted cab. I think the avatar cabinets only come in straight form. What is the difference (if any) of a slanted cab and a straight cab?

Also, the cabs from avatar are 8 ohms, just out of curiousity, the peavey XXX comes with a 4,8, and 16 ohm switch, when using just one speaker cab i would use the 8 ohm setting correct? How does that work when you have 2 cabs hooked up? is it still 8 ohms?

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Question i have now is most half stacks i see have a slanted cab. I think the avatar cabinets only come in straight form. What is the difference (if any) of a slanted cab and a straight cab?

Also, the cabs from avatar are 8 ohms, just out of curiousity, the peavey XXX comes with a 4,8, and 16 ohm switch, when using just one speaker cab i would use the 8 ohm setting correct? How does that work when you have 2 cabs hooked up? is it still 8 ohms?

Thanks alot


1. Slanted cab, the top 2 speakers are angled upwards a bit so when you're standing infront of it, the sound "tunnel" is directed more at you, so you can hear what it really sounds like, vs with a straight cab... you get the indirect sound because you arent in the tunnel.

2. for 8 ohm cab, you put the switch to 8 ohms. For 2x8 ohm cabs, you put the switch to 4 ohms i bleieve.
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Old 2006-12-09, 22:48
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Yeah also slant cabs also have a more aggressive treble response, which sounds amazing with warm middy pickups like v30s not scooped type ones like the GK12 in Mode 4's or the GT12-75's.
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Old 2006-12-10, 06:02
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I looked into the avatar cabinets. They seem like a really sweet deal, $380 for a 4x12 with v30s. Only thing i dont like is the cab that comes with the 380 deal has an ugly brown vintage-like cover on the front, but i think i can deal with that haha.

Question i have now is most half stacks i see have a slanted cab. I think the avatar cabinets only come in straight form. What is the difference (if any) of a slanted cab and a straight cab?

Also, the cabs from avatar are 8 ohms, just out of curiousity, the peavey XXX comes with a 4,8, and 16 ohm switch, when using just one speaker cab i would use the 8 ohm setting correct? How does that work when you have 2 cabs hooked up? is it still 8 ohms?

Thanks alot


Bear in mind you can get any number of configurations from Avatar. You can have the cab wired any way you want and you can get any color grill.
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Old 2006-12-12, 02:36
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So i've decided to go with an avatar cab. Now im undecided on whether i should go with 4 vintage 30s or go with two v30s on top and two G12H30s on the bottem. What are your thoughts on this matter?
 
Old 2006-12-12, 09:56
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I wouldn't mix and match if I were you... Go all v30.
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Old 2006-12-12, 14:26
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I did a mix in my Avatar 2x12, one V30 and one G12H30. Its a pretty cool best of both worlds kind of thing, especially if you want to play more clean stuff.
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