MetalTabs.com - your source for Metal tabs
Home Forum FAQ Contact Us Link to Us


Go Back   MetalTabs.com Forum > Musicians > Gear & Recording


 
 
Old 2006-11-16, 17:22
Somnus's Avatar
Somnus
Metalhead
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: I am a son of the northern darkness of Iceland
Posts: 94
Ohms, Watts, Rewiring and whatnot

I have been reading around the internet about everything technical about amps and cabinets and seem to find contradicting information. >:l

I want minimum maintenance(sp?) on my gear and have been looking at the GT3500H and a Avatar cab, and I'm not sure about how to get the full 350 watts out of the amp. As I understand there are not many companies offering 2ohm 4x12 cabinets that can handle 350 watts.

Can I for example order a 4ohm 4x12 cab that handles 350 watts from Avatar and rewire it for 2ohms or? How does that kind of rewiring work.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
__________________
There it was. The final destiny. A sunrise that never came, still the lamp never faded away. Farewell was the word, and the afterglow was the brave morning. Rising and telling everyone, about the beauty of its Prologue.
 
Old 2006-11-16, 18:23
DemonicSlaughteR
Metalhead
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ca
Posts: 57
this link it has great information http://www.onlinerock.com/musicians....html#1bookmark

i think fender makes a cab for the metalhead amp and im not sure but i think it was 2 ohms and is 400 watts

Last edited by DemonicSlaughteR : 2006-11-16 at 18:26.
 
Old 2006-11-16, 22:31
xdislexicx
TEH PWNZOR!!!1qa
Alumni Staff
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The West.
Posts: 4,433
with four 16 ohm speakers you can easily wire it for 4 ohms mono.

like a marshall 1960a cab for example, they have four 16 ohm g12t-75's wired up for 4 or 16 ohms mono(depending on which jack you plug into), or 8 ohms per side in stereo.

so...

if my theory is correct, wiring it the same way with the same stereo jack panel type as the marshall, but replacing those speakers with 8 ohm ones would make it 2 or 8 ohms mono(again, depending on which jack you plug into), or 4 ohms stereo per side stereo.

that makes sense to me, but then again i'm rusty on my impendances and whatnot since i havent had to deal with it much lately. you might want a second opinion to back me up.

if you want to go with avatar, just send dave an e-mail telling him what you're going for and he should be able to figure out exactly what you'd need. i've dealt with him before, the man knows his shit, and he's always been good at fast responses.
__________________
Friends don't let friends play Krank!
 
Old 2006-11-17, 18:49
the_bleeding's Avatar
the_bleeding
Post-whore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,816
Hey i have a wierd question... I found a stereo guitar cab, a 6x10, and instead of having ohm ratings under each input (theres 2 inputs), it just has a big sticker that says

System impedance: 6 ohm
continuous power: 200 watt

sooooooooooo does this mean that its 150 watts a side and 12 ohms a side? orrrrrrrr what. I'm realllllly confused.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
 
Old 2006-11-17, 20:39
PUngency's Avatar
PUngency
Senior Metalhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 188
2 Ohms is friggin low impedance.
You may want to check you amp specs to see if 2 Ohms is a minimum load impedance. Most amps I've seen can handle as low as four.

If you the impedance of the speakers is lower than what the amp can handle it may damage the amp.

Look into series and parallel wiring. That should help you a little bit too.
 
Old 2006-11-17, 20:43
PUngency's Avatar
PUngency
Senior Metalhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_bleeding
Hey i have a wierd question... I found a stereo guitar cab, a 6x10, and instead of having ohm ratings under each input (theres 2 inputs), it just has a big sticker that says

System impedance: 6 ohm
continuous power: 200 watt

sooooooooooo does this mean that its 150 watts a side and 12 ohms a side? orrrrrrrr what. I'm realllllly confused.

thats weird
 
Old 2006-11-17, 22:14
the_bleeding's Avatar
the_bleeding
Post-whore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,816
its an ancient Sunn guitar cabinet... made to match an SS head which might explain the wierd ass impedances.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
 
Old 2006-11-17, 23:53
DeathCS's Avatar
DeathCS
Wasted Custom User title
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minneapolis.
Posts: 5,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by PUngency
2 Ohms is friggin low impedance.
You may want to check you amp specs to see if 2 Ohms is a minimum load impedance. Most amps I've seen can handle as low as four.

If you the impedance of the speakers is lower than what the amp can handle it may damage the amp.

Look into series and parallel wiring. That should help you a little bit too.

on the back of this amp it says "2 ohms - 350 watts"
also "4 ohms - 220watts"
__________________
This is my signature.
 
Old 2006-11-18, 01:53
PUngency's Avatar
PUngency
Senior Metalhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathCS
on the back of this amp it says "2 ohms - 350 watts"
also "4 ohms - 220watts"

Cool. It should work then.

It'll work if you have 4 4 Ohm speakers hooked up in series parallel
and also 4 8 Ohm speakers hooked up in parallel
OR 4 2 ohm speakers hooked up in just series.

Easy heh.
 
Old 2006-11-18, 11:29
Somnus's Avatar
Somnus
Metalhead
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: I am a son of the northern darkness of Iceland
Posts: 94
Yeah ok, that pretty much clears everything up for me

But yeah, The GT3500H has a wired ohm requirement for cabs and I don't think I'll ever need the full 350 watts in the near future. Before that I'll probably buy an ENGL or something.

Thanks alot for all the information!
__________________
There it was. The final destiny. A sunrise that never came, still the lamp never faded away. Farewell was the word, and the afterglow was the brave morning. Rising and telling everyone, about the beauty of its Prologue.
 
Old 2007-01-08, 07:09
the_bleeding's Avatar
the_bleeding
Post-whore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,816
okay... funny thing i need answered. I have a stereo cab (its a piece of shit) with 2x8ohm inputs, and a marshall head. Now, my impedance switch has 2 settings, 8 ohms, and 16ohms(4ohms). what the hell does 16(4) mean... and what do i set it to to use both cab inputs?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
 
Old 2007-01-09, 23:38
PUngency's Avatar
PUngency
Senior Metalhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_bleeding
okay... funny thing i need answered. I have a stereo cab (its a piece of shit) with 2x8ohm inputs, and a marshall head. Now, my impedance switch has 2 settings, 8 ohms, and 16ohms(4ohms). what the hell does 16(4) mean... and what do i set it to to use both cab inputs?

Which has the switch? The amp?
Only two speakers work when you plug into one input of the cab?
Why do you want to use both inputs?
 
Old 2007-01-09, 23:45
the_bleeding's Avatar
the_bleeding
Post-whore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by PUngency
Which has the switch? The amp?
Only two speakers work when you plug into one input of the cab?
Why do you want to use both inputs?


Amp has the switch. It says exactly

16 ohms.......8 Ohms
(4ohms)...........|
.....|__________|

and has 2 outputs


its a 4x12, each 8ohm jack controls only 2 of the speakers. I want to use all 4 speakers, therefore need to use both inputs, and therefore need the correct impedance to use both outputs on my amp.

EDIT: ADDED
okay, just got an email from marshall support. Turns out that the 8ohm 16ohm is the head, and the 4 ohm 8 ohm is the combo, but they use the same labels on both of them.... yeah. this is balls
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!

Last edited by the_bleeding : 2007-01-10 at 18:45.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Top

========

Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer
Copyright © 2001-2014 MetalTabs.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.