I only know Nirvana and alice in chains and hole...

thats not metal

grunge was the first step to the pussyfication of music. we should erase all those bands from history.

Yep. Can't stand the shit

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I like listening to grunge like Ten (Pearl Jam) but besides that I can't recall anything else within the past year really that was grunge. I like a wide variety of stuff. Like, I'm listening to Blackwater Park right now but wouldn't mind taking a break and hearing "Jeremy".

Oh, and Alice in Chains, too. I haven't heard too much but I like them. I performed Them Bones before with a full band. Fun.

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Alice in Chains was easily the best band in the genre, followed quite closely by Soundgarden. I listen to both frequently. Nirvana were important, and as a kid they were my favorite band, however, these days I have trouble listening to them. I still have all their stuff, though, and it's all too important to me to throw it away. I can still enjoy it in small doses.

Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots were also good bands, I like much of their earlier work.

Other important bands to the genre were the Melvins, Green River, Screaming Trees, Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, Hole (believe it or not), L7 (another all female band), and Dinosaur, Jr.

There were similar bands that couldn't quite be classified as thrash. I'd strongly recommend checking out Red Hot Chili Peppers, pre-MTV stuff especially- a proto-grunge feel with HEAVY funk roots. Smashing Pumpkins were another good, similar, but non-grunge band to check out. Of course, Rage Against the Machine, while not grunge in any way, were often associated with grunge bands and the movement in general and were a hell of a fun band, almost like a much heavier Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Then there was a post-grunge movement with bands like Live, Collective Soul, Bush, Foo Fighters, and Silverchair, which is decent stuff if you care for that type of thing.

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pre-grunge

fugazi
rites of spring
pixies
violent femmes
janes addiction
minutemen

i grew up on this stuff so, i dont really listen to them at all. pixies are, however one of my all time favorites. fugazi's first album is stamped into my unconcious

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SILVERCHAIRs FIRST 2 RECORDS WERE AWESOME.

Pixies grunge? Ok... ?

JANES ADDICTION GRUNGE? I think not...?

I don't know heaps about grunge but those bands definately don't strike me as grungey.

OH - I SEE IT SAYS PRE-GRUNGE, my mistake.

CHRIS - L7 fucken rules... Hole too.

What about Soundgarden... ?

No shit?! Oh god, he's right! Reqtum, you have a tendency to come into threads and make irrelevant posts and then leave. Stop it and concider this a warning.

Grunge a pussyfication? Yikes.

Alice in Chains
Stone Temple Pilots
Nirvana
Silverchair (Frogstomp)
Hole (all early material)
Stone Temple Pilots
Soundgarden

Are all great stuff. Grunge is another genre I was around when I was younger. My mom was into a few grunge bands and got me going early.

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Freakshow was cool too though... I mean it's when they got famous, but Cemetary is awesome, so is Freak and uhm..... Abuse Me. I think Silverchair is pretty cool. I even like their faggoty shit.

yeah but they pretty much put an end to that pestilence of a craze called Glam metal.

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i still like alice in chains.



one of these days im gonna buy thier albums.

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I only like AIC...and if you want to consider Melvins grunge (I don't) then them, too.


It's wierd because I was going to make a "Most Negative Band" thread last night on the basis of Alice In Chains destroying all sludge, doom and black metal bands for pure negativity.

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I mentioned Soundgarden. Soundgarden are a mood band for me. Not in that I have to be in a certain mood to listen to them, but that I listen to them in an attempt to slightly manipulate mood. For example, listening to something cheesy and energetic like 'Hellbent for Leather' or 'Run to the Hills' can get you up and running in the morning. Similarly, the title track off of Superunknown really helps suppress anxiety while still keeping spirits up if I'm about to leave for class or work. I should point out it's very difficult to suppress anxiety without inducing lethargy.

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Nirvana is what got me playing an instrument a while ago. Metallica however got me playing metal.

I have much respect for Alice in Chains, think they're great. Soundgarden is way up there too.

Never was able to get into Pearl Jam though...

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OH

TOOL's FIRST 2 ALBUMS PURE GRUNGE AWESOME SHIT.

Shit, if Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, and Red Hot Chili Peppers are grunge, then I listen to that quite a bit. I haven't heard a lot of these other bands like the pixies and fugazzi.

I'm still wearing off my Pearl Jam binge now. I think Thank You (STP) will take it's place soon. I can listen to that album as easily as I can Abbey Road.

It would have been kinda fun to be around during the grunge era. Wear whatever the hell you want, as long as flannel is involved. I actually have one flannel jacket.

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Glam was awesome and i still wonder after all these years how we went from badass bands that sang about fucking women, partying all the time and drinking booze to a bunch of faggots moaning about how sad, depressed and mis-placed in society they were.

and yes Darko, all the pathetic Emo bullshit we have nowadays can be traced back to the grunge era.

Regardless of whether this is true or not (which it isn't), that doesn't mean we should "erase all those bands from history". They've inspired a lot of good things, too.



Great fucking albums, but grunge?

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while i do realize that Emo evolved from punk/hardcore, there's no denying whatsoever that this current Emo fad mirrors, with accurate, almost scary perfection the early 90's grunge boom: songs about and for losers, listened by losers that, somehow, gained mainstream status.

nu-metal, in all its shittyness, at least managed to bring some cojones back to the kids.

I have a hard time accepting Soundgarden as grunge nowadays. Grunge was mostly influenced by punk, whereas Soundgarden's influences lie squarely with Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. I think hailing from Seattle during the early 90s meant instant induction to the grunge club but I just see them as a hard rock-cum-heavy metal band.

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Yep hailing from Seattle and being on the Sub Pop label branded Soungarden with the grunge tag. The Melvins also get lumped incorrectly with the genre due mainly to Mr Cobain hanging around with them in the early days. It's also why Mother Love Bone get tagged also even though they were pretty much a cock rock band.
Fugazi are not grunge nor the hell are the Pixies????

Grunge helped kill off big girly hair rock like Poison

My fav artists of the era were Tad, Mudhoney and Green River.
Soungarden were also a fav band and I got to see them play live with Corrosion of Conformity many years back.

Of the other bands of that time I liked Smashing Pumkins and some Pearl Jam. Wasn't a huge AIC fan and I didn't much like Nirvana apart from the first album.

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i said PRE-grunge


they were a huge influence on nearly all the early grunge bands. hell read any nirvana interview about thier influences. the pixies will get a mention. both pixies and fugazi dominated college radio in america from the 80s to the mid 90s.

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DARKO -

I mean opiate and Undertow...?? Pretty grungy i think man... progressive grunge?

Grunge killed glam. Glam was a great deal more pussified than grunge. Grunge actually ended up paving the way for a lot of the tough guy bullshit that went on during the 90's. Emo isn't particularly similar to grunge and the recent emo movement only mirrors grunge because they're both pop trends and there are limited ways of trends being expressed. In other words the similarities are surface-deep and you're a dumb shit for thinking that things that come in the same wrappers are the same.

Now, another Ian MacKaye band is pretty much the forerunner for emo, but you'd have to know something to know that.

A lot of music from the early 90's will have similarities to grunge. Just happens. And there are a lot of grunge bands with Sabbath influences.

Alice in Chains
Green River
Gruntruck
Love Battery
Mad Season
Malfunkshun
Melvins
Mono Men
Mother Love Bone
Mudhoney
My Sister's Machine
Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Screaming Trees
Skin Yard
Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots
Tad
Temple of the Dog

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Perhaps...but emo doesn't have the figurehead that grunge had in Kurt Cobain. When he died the whole movement died. Emo is more like an amorphous fat.

And as for glam metal, they put on more makeup than emo kids do.

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Lol its like my emo argument magically spilled from the converge thread to here, why was emo even brought up here again?

Metalheads need a whipping boy, and lately that whipping boy is emo (though punk need not worry, we've plenty of energy left for you!). This is a little different than your emo argument in there, though.

altough most of the bands titled in this thread are good, this thread should be called "late 80's early 90's alternative rock thread" rather than grunge.

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Forgot about Smashing Pumpkins. I never listened to anything after "Melon Collie..." but Billy Corgan really knows how to write perfect songs, so I gotta hand it to him.

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oooh lets not forget that the glam bands wore more make up than my mom, my sister and a whore from Tijuana combined

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You consider Dinosaur Jr grunge? I could never see that, but maybe its just that I havent heard too much of em

to people comparing glam to grunge: and what the fuck does make-up have anything to do with the themes of the songs?

is any of you, by scretch of imagination, trying to tell that Motley Crue, Twisted sister or KISS music was affected by their make-up?

fuck, who even mentioned the band's looks?

JESUS, no wonder why Gene Simmons had more pussy in one year than everyone in this forum put togheter will have during their lifes.

grunge paved the way for bitchy, moaning, "i'm a loser, so here's another platinum album" bands in the mainstream. it was a, thankfully, short fad without any lasting power whatsoever. a transition between badass glam and the somewhat annoying nu-metal.

the only reason you and me are still talking about glam is because of Kurt Cobain and his "legendary" status, a shitty musician who connected with his audience because he was just as much as a loser as they were.

grunge is a stain is music's history.

Thanks alot guys. Another question, what kind of music is Days of the new?

Alternative

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Yes, while they were spending time putting on makeup, Slayer, Metallica, Exodus, and a few more ugly bands were helping to forge a genre that people would still care about 20+ years later.

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dude, KISS and Twisted Sister were around before those bands and still are around (and far more popular than Exodus, just to use one of your examples). Motley Crue is still kicking after 25 years. and again, i fail to see what's relevance of make-up in this discussion.

furthermore, who even mentioned thrash metal not being around or not being cared in the first place?

even furthermore, what the fuck is your point, if you do have one?

My point was that when these glam bands were in their prime, there was, at least in my opinion, a better metal movement going on in the underground that for the most part resented glam bands. I may have been a little harsh in my comment but still...Glam metal is not without its flaws. Lyrically, it is very similar to commercial rap. Songs about partying, excess, random asses and tits. So that makes it rather shallow IMO.

KISS is a band very affected by their makeup, more so than the other glam metal bands. Member when they took it off? Things didn't work out. They write average songs but are great performers live an dhave benefited from this. You cannot deny their image plays a huge role in their success. Whatever you may think of grunge, you have to admit they wore normal clothes and didn't present themselves in a cartoonish manner.

But whatever. Glam metal has obvious influences on power metal, which I really like, while thrash pretty much laid the groundwork for death and black metal which are genres that seem to be getting more popular everyday.

P.S.: Gene may be able to get a thousand pussies in his face every month, but he can't get me to buy one of his CDs.

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yeah, he's probably weeping and mourning because of that, while gangbanging some Playboy bunnies.

Ha, I'm not saying that my CD purchases or even my existence register in his jaded rockstar mind or anything. But when I look for a CD to buy, I judge on music, not on the adventures the bassist has with his dick.

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I don't know...he is a total jew...haha

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how id this metal

Shut the fuck up.

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Ditto.

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nirvana is ok, i just read the authorized bio with interviews and shit, pretty impressive and interesting to read

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wow. i gotta be honest, to me those are three of the most hilarious jokes the music industry ever spawned. none of them can/could play for shit. in my mind its no different than ashley simpson, just a different marketing strategy.and it continues today with modern rejects like avenged sevenfold. motely crue isnt really "kicking", just kind of twitching in a pathetic attempt to squeeze what little money there is left out of their aging audience.
no offense to anyone who listens to that shit, but kiss' music is about as meaningful and memorable as paris hiltons. not mention makeup is for ladies.

Dude that was like more than 2 months ago, don't start this argument up again, pwease?

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my apologies guys. not trying to start shit.

Probably all ready mentioned before, but what the hell:

Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Temple Of The Dog
Alice In Chains

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Goddamn, Days of the New is awesome. Discovered them just now after chasing a song I heard while watching Black Hawk Down. I'll have to check out everything else mentioned in this thread.

only ones I like are Nirvana and the Melvins