This should be a very good thread

I didn't really like catacombs of nephren ka partly cause i couldn't hear oany of it, due to bad production

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I thought 10 people would of said Metallica after '88
Another for me is Opeth after Black waterpark

Megadeth is my favorite band, but they went downhill starting with Countdown to Extinction. It was an ok album but it was a huge departure from their old sound and marked their transition to a just another 80's sellout band

I think some of the more obvious nominations of this thread are Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, and In Flames. Their old stuff was brilliant, but they all suck donkey dick nowadays, unfortunately :/

i detest opeth-creedence, emperor- IX equilibrium except "curse you all men" and most of prometheus....ill think of more later. those arent my fav bands anymore.

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Suffocation - Breeding the Spawn
Demolition Hammer - Time Bomb

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I find both "Deliverence" and "Damnation" by Opeth to be trash.

+1 also Ghost Reveries

another is New Cannibal Corpse

Oh man, awesome thread. Got alot to say about alot of bands.

Celtic Frost - what the FUCK was 'Cold Lake' and why does every CF album suck after it? [Okay, 'Vanity Nemesis' was alright, but hey!]
Everything Arcturus is doing after Garm left sucks as well.
Satyricon was awesome up until 'Volcano'; the new album is the laziest record ever made. Man did they go downhill.
I hate Dimmu Borgir after their original keyboardist left, I don't listen to anything after 'Enthroned Darkness Trimphant' at all.
I dislike Kreator in their 90's era. 'Renewal' and 'Cause For Conflict' were decent, but then when Mille was trying to be a goth-rock star I was like 'wtf, another brilliant band destroyed.' Good thing 'Violent Revolution' came out.
All 90's Rush sucks. 'Test For Echo' was the best record of that era. But fuck, after like 20 + years of straight flawless albums they fucked it up BAD with 'Roll The Bones.'
As much as I love them I have to say that 'Whisper Supremacy'-era Cryptopsy just doesn't do it for me, and I still listen to it alot just to try and like it. Nope. 'And Then You'll Beg' is like the only album I dig out of the DiSalvo-era.
I can't do this thread without mentioning Swedish melodic death. 'Mind's I', anyone? 'Lunar Strain/Jester Race'? Hell, those were the DAYS.
Moe, I barely ever touch Prometheus, I dig IX Equilibrium though, Prometheus has its moments but definetly doesn't beg for replaying like the eariler stuff.
I can't stand anything My Dying Bride did after 'Light At The End Of The World' and I have no idea why.
ATROCITY - Why why WHY did they totally fuck up after the brilliant 'Longing For Death' album and turn into a vampire loving goth metal band??
Tiamat - Wildhoney, masterpiece. Deeper Kind Of Slumber, = 'Dark Side Of The Moon' for underground metal. Skeleton Skeletron killed it. For a band that's been around for like 20 years almost I cannot believe they only put out 2 incredible albums that sound nothing like anything they ever did.
Anathema - YOU GUYS ARE NOT RADIOHEAD, STOP.
Thought Industry - see above.
Katatonia - anything after 1999 just doesn't exist for me regarding them.
Samael - hahahahahahaha... wow.
Sepultura - I don't even have to tell you do I?
Paradise Lost - ok, I could tolerate 'One Second' because it had good songwriting. But then...
The Kovenant - christ do they SUCK now.
Rotting Christ - I could tolerate 'Khronos' but fuck did they ever pull an Atrocity-style genre switch.
Summoning weren't so great in their early days and I'm glad they went epic.
Entombed, shit, how could I forget. Needs no introduction.
Newer Voivod and Testament I just don't dig...

...and that's about all I can think of now.

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alot of good shit you posted

I didnt even know Rush was around in the 90's wtf

werk 80 lolololololololoolo

i only have hallucinations and todessensucht ATM but i had atlantis for a while. atlantis was a step up , though


obituary - anything that isnt cause of death
atheist's elements album :/
vaders early stuff is crap imo

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Cannibal Corpse's stuff before 1994 is just kinda....funny to me.

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Samael hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Cant believe I forgot Sepultura

PS Kreator's Enemy of God is actually pretty good IMO

Whoa. I actually totally disagree with that. I liked their early thrashy sound more than the new stuff. The new stuff is good, dont get me wrong, but it doesnt appeal to me like their old stuff. The Beast was crap though :/

I definitely agree.

The Haunted's last two albums, it's a damn shame what they turned into.
Shade Empire's "Intoxicate O.S"

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Anthrax in the mid 90's until right about...


now.

Annihilator for most of their career, despite the earlies and newest albums being good.

Fates Warning after Awaken the Gaurdian.

Danzig after 4, until Circle...

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that Opeth era, you know, since they first formed to this very present day, sucks monkey balls.

Disturbed (yup, my favorite)- Believe
Cradle of Filth- Nymphetamine
Dimmu Borgir- Stormblast (re-issued)
Pantera- Great Southern Trendkill
Mudvayne- Lost and Found
Dark Tranquility- Character

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I think deliverance is amazing. I can see why people wouldn't like ghost reveries but i still really like that album.

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haha, I love you man.

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Anthrax after Belladonna left.. to me, they doesn't even exist.

Rhapsody lately, the last 2 albums... extremely slowed down compared to their older stuff.

the Six Feet Under with Chris Barnes era sucks... oh wait, that's their entire career.

I could make a list about 500 pages long. Just about every band seems to get to the point where they put out a disappointing album and it's all down hill from there. I'll list a couple:

Old School:
Metallica - The Black SHIT album,(Nice production on 'Justice' by the way..ekk)
Megadeth - Whatever that garbage is after Rust In Peace
Anthrax - Whatever that shit was after Among the Living
Testament - Whatever that shit was after Practice What You Preach (Fuck it, I like that album.)
Slayer can do no wrong, and fuck you if you disagree.

Middle School:
Napalm Death - Anything after Harmony Corruption with a few exceptions
Obituary - Anything after Cause of Death
Carcass - Anything after Necroticism
Entombed -Anything between Clandestine and Morning Star (TRSSASTT was ok.)
Sepultura - As someone already said, do I even have to say it?
Godflesh for breaking up....and fuck you if you disagree.
Morbid Angel and Death can do no wrong, and fuck you if you disagree.

New Bitches:
So far so good. With a few exceptions. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I was disgusted with. Mostly it's the fuckers who have been around for a billion years who piss me off.

Random Shit
Tool: I don't even know what that crap after Aenema is supposed to be.
Primus: Let's just forget about the Brown Album and move on, ok?
Faith No More and Mr. Bungle: Can do no wrong, and a triple Fuck You if you disagree.


By the way:

I don't get why people hate Prometheus so much. I actually like that album a lot. Granted. IX Equilibrium does blow, but Prometheus is pretty fucking good imo. None of them match Anthems by a long shot, but, oh well.

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I think that is, by far, their best album.

Albums that dissappoint:
The new Gut (sucks shit)
The Discharge Demos
Mortician - Mortal Massacre (just can't dig it)
Cro-Mags - Best Wishes (everyone loves it, but me)

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you didnt like Souls of Black???

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Forgot about DEICIDE... you know when and what album I'm talking about. Although I did enjoy 'Scars Of The Crucifix' alot, it's cute to see them being influenced from Glen doing 'Dechristianize' with Vital Remains. Sweep Hoffmans, sweep!!

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I forgot all about Deicide. Yeesh. Serpents was their last good album IMO. Scars was at best average IMO

Yes on Bungle. FNM is good, but anything other than Angle Dust I'm not too into.



Ouch!

Opeth - Anything after Blackwater Park
The Books - Anything besides Thought for Food is weak
Circle of Dead Children - I use to be into them a lot, but I soon figured out that everything besides Human Harvest is very, very boring.
Dark Tranquility - Everything after Mind's I
Goatwhore - The Eclipse of Ages Into Black (Although I have a feeling this album may sink in.)
In Flames - Jester Race is the only album that I really like.
Leng Tch'e - The Process of Elimination (They improved on the vocals, but lost some great riffage)
Minus - Whatever album is after Jesus Christ Bobby
Psycroptic - Symbols of Failure. I just can't get into this album.
Suffocation - Souls to Deny, Suffocation, Breeding the Spawn

Theres lots more, but this is what I can come up with ontop of my head.

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Good call!

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King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime (the one with Spruance) is also good and much darker. I distinctly dislike pretty much all the material written without Patton, including the album he first sang on. It's hard to imagine a more obnoxious song than 'Epic.'

The Great Southern Trendkill rules. Pantera sticking their head outside the box and introducing a generation of metalheads to their first hints of extreme or otherwise unusual metal. On the other hand, Reinventing the Steel, while by no means bad, is pretty uninspired stuff.

They what?! Goddamn, didn't know that. Longing For Death is an awesome album though.

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That's my favorite from them.

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I'll have to give that one some attention.

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The new Gut pwnz
Cro-Mags have always sucked

Agreed. Though Angel Dust is pretty damn good too.




Chuck Mosely's voice is pretty goddamn irritating, but they had a few good songs on their early albums. As for 'The Real Thing', yeah, it's not their best one with Patton (he sounds pretty whiny) but again, there are some good tunes on there. (Woodpecker From Mars stands out. Probably because Patton wasn't doing a Anthony Keidis impression.)
FNM really got interesting when they stopped trying to make songs that could become 'hits' and started doing whatever the fuck they wanted. I think the Mr. Bungle influence gets more obvious as they went along. (Especially on King for a Day.)

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Not if you were hoping for the old Gut, like I was.

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White Zombie , post 92 career.

Great Southern Trendkill, I thought, wasn't as good as their old stuff. I still like it, though.

Far Beyond Driven I think is their best.

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Psycroptic - Symbols Of Failure ()

Opeth - Ghost Reveries

Cephalic Carnage - Old Stuff, Halls Of Amenti

Metallica - Everything after ...And Justice For All

Odious Mortem - Devouring The Prophecy

Sleep Terror - Probing Tranquility (2006 album)

Visceral Bleeding - Remnants Of Deprivation (pretty much because of the stupid dog barking vocals)

Neuraxis - Imagery (great album but the damn bass drum sound!! :bawling

Spawn Of Possessi.... kidding


Edit;I actually like Breeding The Spawn a lot

It's an awesomely written record, but the production job kills it for most people. I can still listen to it, but everytime I do I can only think of how much better it would be if it had a production like Pierced From Within :/

Am I the only one who liked Ghost Reveries a lot? I thought it was a huge step up from their last two personally....has some lame moments, but overall I think it's really good.

Lost and FOund was a great album, tkes getting used to tho.

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I agree about the Suffocation and most of the others.

Also, all of Odious MOrtem was hella boring.
Aborted after Goremageddon.
Aeons new stuff.
and Throwdowns new Vendetta wanna be pantera bullshit.
and Lamb Of GOd's new shit.

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I still liked it too, but I think they sounded better on LD 50 and the Beginning of All Things To End.

I think what turned me off mostly was, along with less bass, was how much more double bass drumming MAtt included that he didn't have as much of in the other albums. I just always saw him as someone who actually didn't really need double bass that much to sound good.

I don't know. I might be sounding crazy because I just took 2 or 3 decongestants and am really thirsty.

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Mudvayne sucked after their first self titled album

their 2nd and 3rd cd were good man.

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Someone needs to change their avatar before this argument gets way more confusing.

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Faith No More were fine before Patton, true, but when he started writing songs (starting with Angel Dust, since he only wrote lyrics on The Real Thing) and got more creative control they really took off for me. Which is more or less exactly what you (Ludd) said. But I can get sick of FNM, which isn't true of Bungle. Mr. Bungle just flat-out rules, though.

Some bands don't really have bad periods, but rather you find out that what seemed like an exploratory and interesting band just has a differently shaped cookie cutter. A lot of Swedish bands have this problem.

WTF does your avatar say?




I'd have to say Pantera. They really went downhill after Power Metal.




Juuuust kidding bitches.

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Why do we agree so completely in this thread and act like such cunts towards each other in the other thread? (Though in reality we probably agree with each other in the other thread too.)

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its funny, i know people that will SERIOUSLY agree with that said statement. its nauseating

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korpiklaani

Trendkill has it's moments. The title track is awesome, both Suicide Notes and Floods are all very good, the rest ranges from decent to downright boring.

As for stuff I hate by bands I love, well, I laugh hysterically everytime I remind myself how bad Emperor's first album is. Then I listen to the other albums in order and notice how much they improve every album, from In the Nightside Eclipse being good to IX Equilibrium and Prometheus being downright fucking BRILLIANT.

Someone else mentioned Fates Warning- I have to admit I don't get into anything past No Exit, but I also have to admit I haven't tried very hard to give it a shot.

I HATE new Destruction like cancer.

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Jesus, The Great Southern Trendkill blew me away and still does. I am surprised to see that people feel this way. Whether it is their best release is one thing, but it definitley has the most dynamics of anything they've put out.



So do you think Nightside Eclipse is good or bad? I love it, and it has a few of my favorite Emperor tracks (Cosmic Keys, Black Wizards, Inno A Satana). Emperor's new stuff is good, but I prefer the older releases.

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We agree in this thread and not the other one because the subjects are different and somebody's taste in music isn't a first domino dictating what the rest of his opinions will be. We ultimately agree in the other thread, but I think your approach is stabbing shadows.

I'm pretty sure Chris meant Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk the second time through.

To me, Prometheus towers over everything else Emperor has done. Very few bands have conceived of something as ambitious, let alone executed it. The earlier stuff has more heat, but the real fireworks are there.

In Flames has been in a constant downslope since their current drummer joined.

Opeth- After Blackwater Park I have to agree with. The last 3 albums just sound weird...

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That's quite interesting, you're saying that you enjoyed the albums more and more in chronological order. I'm sure every band would want to hear that.

For me, Anthems to the Welkin At Dusk is their finest. On my journey into metal ITNE was one of the albums I picked up. I fucking loved it, especially Inno A Satana and I Am The Black Wizards. I listen to those songs now, and I don't feel the connection I had before. Damn. I haven't listened to the other albums so much as to give an opinon, I should. I fucking still love Anthems like I did before. Goddamn.

Good thread.

Mayhem was bad on their demo cuz it was terribly produced and just sucked. After that they were great. De Mysteriis would have been an album I could listen all day to if Dead didn't fuck us over and die before it was recorded. Then we got stuck with Attila's "on the shitter" vocal style. Their new stuff is cracked out but isn't painful to listen to. Maniac was always drunk live though. Now Maniac left and it's back to the can for Mayhem.

Limbonic Art was good till they decided to execute most of the keyboards for their boring guitar riffs which are only good when accompanied by snyth. Ad Noctum sounded all the same and turned boring after a while. The Untimate Death Worship wasn't bad. THe vocals seemed to get better, but then they killed Limbonic Art and both their new bands suck.

Dimmu Borgir angered me when their original keyboardist left. I refused to listen to their new shit, but after a while it grew on me and didn't bother me anymore and I don't care. Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia was too damn techno-industrial. Listen to Puritania and you will know what I mean. And I hate when they replaced normal keyboards with orchestra. That makes it suck.

Dark Funeral disappointed me with Attera Totus Sanctus because it sounded all the same. Final Ritual is a good song, but nothing else stood out.

Naglfar doesn't have Jens Ryden anymore. Their new singer sucks and doesn't have long hair to swish around live. After Sheol, Naglfar is dead.

Cradle of Filth is definately not one of my favs, but I could tolerate most of it up to Midian. Now they just suck so bad, I'm sad that they were once called black metal.

Emperor was always good, just lacked the old essence of how they helped invent Norwegian Black Metal in the end. The newer stuff made me shake my head and ask, why?

Burzum would have always been one of my favorites if Varg hadn't been put in jail. The instrumental stuff wasn't what I was looking for, and eventually it made Varg not like metal anymore

Ulver. Not that their post-BM stuff is really bad, it just needs to go by a different moniker. Same can go for the last Dissection (laugh all you want, I enjoy it alot), any Samael after Exodus, and newer Katatonia. I still like what these bands are doing, but they are so different in sound that I don't think it's even right to keep the same name.

Tiamat
Amorphis as well

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He once said in an interview "guitars are for niggers." I laughed, he's nuts.

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hendrix probably in his grave saying I TOLD Y'ALL

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Sure is. Going on and on about true metal, and then dissing guitars? I doubt he's even seen a black person.

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Yeah, I read that interview. He also said metal is nigger music. I love Varg, but he's been in the house too long to know what metal is now. There are only about three metal bands that I know of with a black person in them.

metallica after the black album

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Metal is rock. Rock came out of blues. That's what he meant.

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I thought of that too, but he used synth the whole time he was in jail, and synth and keyboards are used by rappers and all of that stuff. So, is his use of keyboards "nigger music" too? But if you think about it, music in general all has African roots, like drums for example.

But (someone correct me if Im wrong) I think keyboards were created in Europe. Whereas (again, correct me if Im wrong) guitars were, or were based, on african instruments.

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Danzig after 4 until Circle...

Voivod between Snake eras.

Testament-Demonic

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all but first two testament

and... megadeth, pretty much all but two lbums

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Black Sabbath's "Born Again" album. Probably the worst thing I've ever listened to.

Wrath of the Tyrant is generally considered their first album, and I consider ITNE their second full length with an EP (split with Enslaved) seperating the two. I do enjoy ITNE quite a bit, I enjoy Anthems even more, and the last two I consider absolutely virtuous. Sorry for responding so late, I didn't notice this the first time around.

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Sacrilege!

I know there have been countless discussions on metaltabs but Once Was Not still makes me cringe.

As with a lot of people, it seems, I was quite disappointed in Symbols Of Failure. I guess it's impossible to out-do or recreate such a brilliant album like Scepter Of The Ancients.

Converge's petitioning the empty sky and when forever comes crashing are their only full releases that I hold in high regard

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Darius Rucker is probably smiling too.

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i hate a maiden song, Holy smoke. has anyone seen the vid? haha!!

and, of coarse, their worst era was with fucking ELVIS on vocals!

Can't go wrong with Hendrix n Rucker!

Great thread... can't think of any bands thet ever got better and better without blowing it at some point.

Metallica - after Master of Puppets
Iron Maiden - after Piece of Mind
Slayer - After Reign in Blood
Sepultura - After Arise
Anthrax - After Amung the Living
Megadeth - After Peace Sells, they made a slight comeback with Coundown to Extinction , but then back to suckin balls.

what???? you didnt like So Far So Good So What? that was a fucking good album

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"All 90's Rush sucks. 'Test For Echo' was the best record of that era. But fuck, after like 20 + years of straight flawless albums they fucked it up BAD with 'Roll The Bones.'"


Have truer words ever been said?

id also say the last led zeppelin album was shit.

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Grave, after Hating life...weirdness. Although some will include Hating life into the equation I rather liked it.

I've totally come around on this album. The older I get, the more I appreciate Pantera overall. They're never going to be one of my top 25 bands, but there were a couple of times over the past few months where I just needed to listen to the entire Trendkill album on my Zune. It just works.

Another strange little piece of info is that the older I get, the more I hate the generic, adolescent, testosterone, bro!, aggro-rock that is Vulgar Display of Power. If it weren't for Reinventing the Suck, I would say that Vulgar is their worst album, and that includes I Am the Night.

Trendkill I now have up there with Far Beyond Driven and Power Metal.

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Vulgar was the album that kept me from getting into Pantera way back when I hated Phil's personality but, now that I've really gotten into them (thanks to Trendkill) I enjoy Vulgar a lot if I don't take it seriously and enjoy it simply for what it is (your description exactly, although I don't think its generic for its time).

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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Children of Bodom yet. I like everything up to and including Hate Crew Deathroll but they just got fucking ridiculously boring after that imo.

Fear Factory after Demanufacture were fucking godawful, and after their first two albums Pitchshifter went downhill quite fast too. Examples of two really good industrial metal bands degenerating into Nu Metal dross.

Reinkaos by Dissection was a disappointment in my opinion, not really bad but definitely not what I was expecting and in no way does it measure up to their early works.

I don't find Meshuggah's first album very good either, compared to the awesomeness that was everything they've done ever since.

Also, am I the only person who likes all of Dark Tranquillity's stuff? I honestly don't think they've done a bad album at all.

Their Last one wasn't that great, I don't think. Everything else was good. Character can get pretty boring after a while, though.

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